There is a whole load of information that HKB Black Flag Wing Chun is from many different sources beside GM Tio such as Vikoga Wing Chun, Tension forms from uploaded pictures from 5 Ancestors, Hung Fa Yi theory from books and internet.
search for vtmshaolinbull5hit and blogspot for more information.
A open letter from Sifu Sergio to Lin[QUOTE]we cannot teach a kung fu system (HKB BLACK FLAG ENG CHUN} with a fabricated history, here are some points to clarify what we mean as its shocking to find out that the internet attacks that were launched against you and we helped so hard to repel ,are in fact all true!!!
The Chinese article in this video is not from a real newspaper column. It was submitted to a public column that ANYONE can submit to. Sort of like Wikipedia. Not only that, but the Chinese in it is NOT consistent with the OFFICIAL Chinese Language that must be used in publications by News corporations. If you're going to educate us, please get your facts straight. I'd like to see video of you all TOUCHING HANDS and REALLY seeing whose Kungfu is "real" or "fake."
kenneth lin had a big dream to become somebody. he mixed up ip man wc with lohan kf. called it black flag wc. the biggest problem for such claim is lin's own family tree against himself. lin was a kid, # 6 generation of student under ip man, how could lin become a black flag master? simple, made it up and created more lies & sold it to those young & stupid students. that fake museum guy, benny meng, even his own sifu moy yat would not trust him, why should anyone? lin & meng are scumbags.
If I order Dim Sum I expect Dim Sum not Chop Suey. Kenneth Lin's Black Flag story is made up, his kung fu is Vikoga Wing Chun and Lo Han Kung Fu. Why did Lin say there was 5 flag wing chun from Shaolin temple? Not one Yip Man lineage ever said there was 5 flag wing chun, not even Lin's grand teacher Victor Leow. Lin is the only one. explain!
Anybody can publish a book and mix it with Hung Mun. 5 flag wing chun never existed!
You know the worse thing about telling lies and attempting to ruin others for the wrong reasons, is when you are exposed for using clearly documented facts falsely you will be discredited for ever more. So please continue to write your falsehoods and try to hide behind your false names, which if your not aware are easy to trace back to you. Once the materials and books are all completely verified your own words will seal your inevitable destruction. What will your students and brothers think?
@eddierime I think if his students were historians they might when proven wrong be disappointed , as for those students who are interested in kung fu, i'm sure they will be as happy as any other student in any other wing chun school. Does the fact that my sifu gets his history wrong take away from the quality of what wing chun he teaches ? Who cares about history, when i enjoy my round of golf i dont think care who invented it first !
@kungfucritic I would be disgusted and leave the school immediately. I don't care if someone is teaching their own mix of material as long as their a good teacher. But when they make up lies that distort history and drag other masters names through the mud out of their own greed and love of money and fame, that is unforgivable.
tio tik kwie as well as the rest of hkb gangsters were originally from lo-han kung fu school in indonesia, this group of hkb bastards also got their chop-sow wing chun from ip man's-x-x-x-x-> (victor leow->chung->lin->meng). and a load of made up bogus red flag wc stories by this fake museum guy meng, eventally he got caught and this is a real fuckin joke with kf people laughing around the world.
Saying Ip Man WC as Red Flag, in fact a major insult to the Ip Man lineage connecting them to 5 flag bandits, with the sole purpose of supporting Meng's fake museum and Lin's false claims of the Black flag 汉奸. This bullshit Black flag WC actually came from Ip Man-WSL-others-- mixed with Lo Han kung fu from Black Flag bandits gang members.吊你老母Kenneth Lin 招搖撞騙.
5 flag bandits (japanese) has nothing to do with 5 flag society (fujian china) has nothing to do with 5 flag rebels (taiwan) has nothing to do with 5 flag army (manchurian). And Lohan KUN (Fist) has nothing to do with Lohan PAI (Hand). One is a hard style kungfu, one is a form/system of bridging hands. On a side note, Ip Man's Wing Chun itself is a mixed style of Wing Chun, it also had things taken out "simplified" by Ip Man.
For all of you linking the Black Flag Wing Chun to these horrible events,take a look at some of the other Videos about the Black Flag Wing Chun lineage. it proofs it has nothing to do with this the Time line does not fit at all!
shame on the maker of these silly atacking videos
據說為了flame 和 money, 这條Kenneth Lin 出身低微, 他是Ip Man's No.6 generation student.Lin's second teacher Tio Tik Kwie 是一個 black flag member 黑旗會員,學習Lohan kung fu.呢條Lin好眉好貌生沙蚤,透過各種掩人耳目的炒作,誇大Black Flag 黑旗汉奸在社會上嘩眾取寵, Lin's black flag wing chun actually is Ip Man wing chun. and the evidence strongly against his bs 黑旗會員是现代祸国殃民帮助日军的汉奸,.骂得不够狠以史为戒吊你老母
What a shame that we still have this type of attacks in the WC community that hide behind a internet fake name. The article attacking on HKB is fake.
1) Can’t find the source for the article
2) The Chinese language used in the article does not match any professional style of writing
3) It doesn’t fit the writing of a Typical Chinese newspaper – the writing almost reads as if it came out of a gossip column
Lin just made up this black flag Wing Chun name and want to become somebody. And that Benny Meng doesn't smell good, even his own teacher Moy Yat wouldn't trust him in anyway. Yes, Black Flag/5 Flag is a lie.
How stupid this guilo Sergio can be? He has been fooled by two biggest liars Kenneth Lin, Benny Meng. LO-Han is LO-Han kung fu which has nothing to do WING CHUN. Because this black flag gang member Tio Tik-Kwie is a LO-Han guy. From vikoga website, Kenneth Lin got his Wing Chun through Victor Leow/Chung Che Man from Ip man/Sum Nung lineages, what does that has to do with this BOGUS five flag story from shaolin.
looking at the black flag website of 2005. it clearly stated that black flag gang leader tio tik-kwie was a lo-han kung fu guy (not a wc man). kenneth lin's wc came from ip man wc & sum nung wc. certainly the name of black flag wc was made up by kenneth lin, because lin mixed up ip man/sum nung wc & tio tik-kwie's lo-han kf together and called it black flag wc. it's not a shaolin wc as benny meng says. sergio, now you know the truth of black flag wc, you have been fooled by lin & meng.
The black flag scam - a heartbreaking insult to the suffering of my country. A disgusting dis-service to the Wing Chun world. Black Flag, black hearts indeed. BLACK FLAG WING CHUN IS A SCAM.
" moy yat sent two of his students to go all way to the vtm (benny meng's museum/storage room) to knock down the door and take back the chops." moy yat discovered that benny meng didn't have good character and could no longer be trusted with the vtm project.
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There is a whole load of information that HKB Black Flag Wing Chun is from many different sources beside GM Tio such as Vikoga Wing Chun, Tension forms from uploaded pictures from 5 Ancestors, Hung Fa Yi theory from books and internet.
search for vtmshaolinbull5hit and blogspot for more information.
ProfChan48hk 2 months ago
A open letter from Sifu Sergio to Lin[QUOTE]we cannot teach a kung fu system (HKB BLACK FLAG ENG CHUN} with a fabricated history, here are some points to clarify what we mean as its shocking to find out that the internet attacks that were launched against you and we helped so hard to repel ,are in fact all true!!!
jj2714hk 6 months ago
The Chinese article in this video is not from a real newspaper column. It was submitted to a public column that ANYONE can submit to. Sort of like Wikipedia. Not only that, but the Chinese in it is NOT consistent with the OFFICIAL Chinese Language that must be used in publications by News corporations. If you're going to educate us, please get your facts straight. I'd like to see video of you all TOUCHING HANDS and REALLY seeing whose Kungfu is "real" or "fake."
TEthePres2006 8 months ago
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this is very sad :(
SHAOLINDYUNA123 1 year ago
kenneth lin had a big dream to become somebody. he mixed up ip man wc with lohan kf. called it black flag wc. the biggest problem for such claim is lin's own family tree against himself. lin was a kid, # 6 generation of student under ip man, how could lin become a black flag master? simple, made it up and created more lies & sold it to those young & stupid students. that fake museum guy, benny meng, even his own sifu moy yat would not trust him, why should anyone? lin & meng are scumbags.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
If I order Dim Sum I expect Dim Sum not Chop Suey. Kenneth Lin's Black Flag story is made up, his kung fu is Vikoga Wing Chun and Lo Han Kung Fu. Why did Lin say there was 5 flag wing chun from Shaolin temple? Not one Yip Man lineage ever said there was 5 flag wing chun, not even Lin's grand teacher Victor Leow. Lin is the only one. explain!
Anybody can publish a book and mix it with Hung Mun. 5 flag wing chun never existed!
ProfChan88hk 1 year ago
You know the worse thing about telling lies and attempting to ruin others for the wrong reasons, is when you are exposed for using clearly documented facts falsely you will be discredited for ever more. So please continue to write your falsehoods and try to hide behind your false names, which if your not aware are easy to trace back to you. Once the materials and books are all completely verified your own words will seal your inevitable destruction. What will your students and brothers think?
eddierime 1 year ago
@eddierime I think if his students were historians they might when proven wrong be disappointed , as for those students who are interested in kung fu, i'm sure they will be as happy as any other student in any other wing chun school. Does the fact that my sifu gets his history wrong take away from the quality of what wing chun he teaches ? Who cares about history, when i enjoy my round of golf i dont think care who invented it first !
kungfucritic 1 year ago
@kungfucritic I would be disgusted and leave the school immediately. I don't care if someone is teaching their own mix of material as long as their a good teacher. But when they make up lies that distort history and drag other masters names through the mud out of their own greed and love of money and fame, that is unforgivable.
TheaSinensisSerpenti 3 months ago
people could easily see why did moy yat take back the chops from the fake museum, meng definetely cannot be trusted by the wc community
jj2714hk 1 year ago
tio tik kwie as well as the rest of hkb gangsters were originally from lo-han kung fu school in indonesia, this group of hkb bastards also got their chop-sow wing chun from ip man's-x-x-x-x-> (victor leow->chung->lin->meng). and a load of made up bogus red flag wc stories by this fake museum guy meng, eventally he got caught and this is a real fuckin joke with kf people laughing around the world.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
@jj2714hk
The flag stories come from documents that the Dutch found in Indonesian homes, after they invaded the island.
TEthePres2006 8 months ago
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eddierime 1 year ago
Saying Ip Man WC as Red Flag, in fact a major insult to the Ip Man lineage connecting them to 5 flag bandits, with the sole purpose of supporting Meng's fake museum and Lin's false claims of the Black flag 汉奸. This bullshit Black flag WC actually came from Ip Man-WSL-others-- mixed with Lo Han kung fu from Black Flag bandits gang members.吊你老母Kenneth Lin 招搖撞騙.
kiyou5208 1 year ago
@kiyou5208
5 flag bandits (japanese) has nothing to do with 5 flag society (fujian china) has nothing to do with 5 flag rebels (taiwan) has nothing to do with 5 flag army (manchurian). And Lohan KUN (Fist) has nothing to do with Lohan PAI (Hand). One is a hard style kungfu, one is a form/system of bridging hands. On a side note, Ip Man's Wing Chun itself is a mixed style of Wing Chun, it also had things taken out "simplified" by Ip Man.
TEthePres2006 8 months ago
For all of you linking the Black Flag Wing Chun to these horrible events,take a look at some of the other Videos about the Black Flag Wing Chun lineage. it proofs it has nothing to do with this the Time line does not fit at all!
shame on the maker of these silly atacking videos
wengchuntv 1 year ago
Lohan and Lohan Quan are not the same. Lohan was what you could call a template style, just like Monkey style was, just like grand ancestor style.
TEthePres2006 1 year ago
據說為了flame 和 money, 这條Kenneth Lin 出身低微, 他是Ip Man's No.6 generation student.Lin's second teacher Tio Tik Kwie 是一個 black flag member 黑旗會員,學習Lohan kung fu.呢條Lin好眉好貌生沙蚤,透過各種掩人耳目的炒作,誇大Black Flag 黑旗汉奸在社會上嘩眾取寵, Lin's black flag wing chun actually is Ip Man wing chun. and the evidence strongly against his bs 黑旗會員是现代祸国殃民帮助日军的汉奸,.骂得不够狠以史为戒吊你老母
kiyou5208 1 year ago
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What a shame that we still have this type of attacks in the WC community that hide behind a internet fake name. The article attacking on HKB is fake.
1) Can’t find the source for the article
2) The Chinese language used in the article does not match any professional style of writing
3) It doesn’t fit the writing of a Typical Chinese newspaper – the writing almost reads as if it came out of a gossip column
hgbwc91 1 year ago
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hgbwc91 1 year ago
Lin just made up this black flag Wing Chun name and want to become somebody. And that Benny Meng doesn't smell good, even his own teacher Moy Yat wouldn't trust him in anyway. Yes, Black Flag/5 Flag is a lie.
RedbaronavmII 1 year ago
How stupid this guilo Sergio can be? He has been fooled by two biggest liars Kenneth Lin, Benny Meng. LO-Han is LO-Han kung fu which has nothing to do WING CHUN. Because this black flag gang member Tio Tik-Kwie is a LO-Han guy. From vikoga website, Kenneth Lin got his Wing Chun through Victor Leow/Chung Che Man from Ip man/Sum Nung lineages, what does that has to do with this BOGUS five flag story from shaolin.
RedbaronavmII 1 year ago
looking at the black flag website of 2005. it clearly stated that black flag gang leader tio tik-kwie was a lo-han kung fu guy (not a wc man). kenneth lin's wc came from ip man wc & sum nung wc. certainly the name of black flag wc was made up by kenneth lin, because lin mixed up ip man/sum nung wc & tio tik-kwie's lo-han kf together and called it black flag wc. it's not a shaolin wc as benny meng says. sergio, now you know the truth of black flag wc, you have been fooled by lin & meng.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
sorry. there's another person between victor leow & kenneth lin
correction: from vikoga wc website, victor leow->chung che man->kenneth lin.
ex: ip man->wsl->dave peterson->victor leow->chung che man->kenneth lin.
i don't know how dave peterson would react to this fact that the black flag wc grandmaster is actual his great grand student.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
go to vt4um -- other (not ip man lineage) -- help need a translation
you'll find some links about this black flag scam & the fake museum
here's what i've found about victor leow & kenneth lin learned wc from him...
**ip man->chu shong tin->others->victor leow->kenneth lin
**ip man->wsl->dave peterson->victor leow->kenneth lin
**yks->sum nung->yuan zhu tung->victor leow->kenneth lin
"now this made up black flag wing chun?????..."
**kenneth lin-> benny meng
**kenneth lin ->sergio
jj2714hk 1 year ago
The black flag scam - a heartbreaking insult to the suffering of my country. A disgusting dis-service to the Wing Chun world. Black Flag, black hearts indeed. BLACK FLAG WING CHUN IS A SCAM.
jbsfan123 1 year ago
THE ONLY REAL VT MUSEUM (ip man tong in china)
....benny meng’s museum/ storage room in ohio
" moy yat sent two of his students to go all way to the vtm (benny meng's museum/storage room) to knock down the door and take back the chops." moy yat discovered that benny meng didn't have good character and could no longer be trusted with the vtm project.
jj2714hk 1 year ago
Haha i dont even know what black flag wing chun is!
They are all the same thing so who cares?
Transatlanticism04 1 year ago