@bla7091 You can solve the knee issue by opening your knees like a car jack. So point your toes slightly to the side, bend your knees pointing in the direction of your toes, and squat..when you get low to the ground, then simpli kneel, down.. The knee bend is esential in judo, many throws require you to bend your knees in this matter
@bla7091 My sensei is way over 65. he still beats me, even though I am 70 pounds heavier and way stronger. He always tells me that the majority of the throws should be almost effortless. He is always correcting my back an my knees, I do not bend enough during my throws...
Also try wearing knee pads, but that would defeat the purpose of applying the correct technique.
Since when are you doing judo with a T shirt under your kimono!! Only girls do that, come on... And by the way, it's clearly not Kata guruma, but Seoi Nage Variations...
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Go to our youtube page under okcdtjudo and look for the video titled "Ryan Willoughby Ippon- first match". At the end of that match, he hits this throw for ippon.
@JoachimderZweite Go to our youtube page under okcdtjudo and look for the video titled "Ryan Willoughby Ippon- first match". At the end of that match, he hits this throw for ippon.
@dschmitz71 Well, I've said the direction of the throw, and the big wheel (guruma) that uke performs as it is being thrown is more in line with kata-guruma. This throw simply can't be seoi-nage, as the direction of the throw and kusuzhi are completely different than seoi-nage. Uke does indeed wheel over tori's shoulder, both of them, it is just that the left shoulder is not inserted between uke's leg. You can look at another variation here: watch?v=iPz6lYneJnI (I'll try to add it as video reply)
I could work ... but in a self defense situation, if you try to defend yourself with that technique... you would never get back up pretty dangerous outside the dojo!
@judgement357 You have to pay attention to the direction of the throw. This is NOT a seoi-nage variation. Seoi-nage is a principle of Judo that has a specific characteristic kuzushi and kake, tsukuri varies a lot (see Koga's vs Okano, etc.) The kuzushi in this throw is more in like with kata-guruma, and the throw is executed as a big wheel over tori's shoulders, hardly seoi-nage.
when i start training judo, i trained like 2 weeks or something like that, without a judogui, and later my master lend me a gui, but the jacket was blue and the pants was white xd, i didn't like it too much, but whatever, it's better that train with clothes, and i went to competitions like that xd, but just in mi town or state, i cant go to competition with a gui like that in nationals, i dont know about other countries
i don't think this a kata guruma variation, it is like a morote seoi nage variation, droped, like the choi's morote, but i like it, your video can help other guys (:
,,xxdudummesauxx'' i think you're not respectful towards other judokas this reflect actually that you can't be a high class judoka,i lived in USA and they have great judo there.
yep, I'm german, but that doesn't mean that i defend bundesliga teams, wearing yellow, black, red judogis or whatever. i definetley know teams like abensberg (red pants, black last year), esslingen (wearing yellow pants) etc...
talking about my judo level: you can't know it. right?
at some stages, you can get kicked out for wearing a mixed judogi.
you can mix blue jackets even with red pants if you like,in the german Judo Bundesliga its even a trademark,some teams have black jackets and yellow pants,where is the problem?
this throw i think you will find is a variation of RYO HIZA SEOI OTOSHI just its a double lapel grip instead of standard grip of one lapel and one arm
Call it whatever you want to, but this is a very nice technique when fighting someone that is the opposite hand. Thank you for posting this. I am going to study this further and teach it to my athletes once I have it mastered.
look at 0:30, he is setting it up.. look at o:50 he is drawing the circle where he is going to land.. now.. at 1 min. he is in-between his legs. kata gurma translation. pin wheel. look he is making his oppent turn into a wheel....... that is totaly kata gurma.
Pause it at 1:33. Now, I do understand what you are saying regarding seoi nage as this grip is similar to Koga's morote seoi nage on a left vs. right situation. Since tori is a left handed fighter if this was seoi nage uke would be falling in front of him over his left shoulder. Instead, tori is bringing him around in a manner that throws uke over right shoulder. If you ignore the grip and pause at 1:33 the throw looks just like drop kata guruma.
hay thats pick. thats what we call him. ya he is working out with sensi darter! i used to work out with them. well it wasnt much of a work out i just got my butt thrown around.
I like that - tried it in dojo and it works. Especially as I struggle with a strong right hand grip over the top against me. Like the guys say underneath tho you gotta throw immediately after taking same sided grip.
good one, you'll take them down alright. except i'm pretty sure single side two hand grips are illegal. maybe not for just a split second though, i barely know shit about the rules to be honest haha
kata guruma, KOSHI GURUMA (hip wheel) and drop seoi nage are all waza that competent blue and brown belts should be able to recognise. kata guruma is being done by green belts for grading requirements (nage no kata0 in many places. yudansha is a collective name for black belts- ie dan grades.
The technical princip follows Seoi-otoshi. There is no lift up. Look at the official Kodokan-Video "Nage-waza". Watch Video-ID = yFrP05AORdE
burukuhado 1 week ago
Is it safe for beginners ? ... Uke might be tempted to put out an arm to stop falling on his head ...
leading to potential arm injury ?
Boruta46 3 weeks ago
cualquieraaaaaaa
Jasonfeli 1 month ago
I can think 30 form of counter
eliecituz 2 months ago
Would this be easy to do with a standing position? My knees can't take the impact of a dropdown.
Btw if so, what direction do your toes need to face?
bla7091 2 months ago
@bla7091 You can solve the knee issue by opening your knees like a car jack. So point your toes slightly to the side, bend your knees pointing in the direction of your toes, and squat..when you get low to the ground, then simpli kneel, down.. The knee bend is esential in judo, many throws require you to bend your knees in this matter
franciscoreatas11 2 months ago
@franciscoreatas11 I'll try that, I can perfectly bend them but if I drop down hard on them it starts to hurt real bad after only a few times
bla7091 2 months ago
@bla7091 My sensei is way over 65. he still beats me, even though I am 70 pounds heavier and way stronger. He always tells me that the majority of the throws should be almost effortless. He is always correcting my back an my knees, I do not bend enough during my throws...
Also try wearing knee pads, but that would defeat the purpose of applying the correct technique.
franciscoreatas11 2 months ago
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Very nice technic will try to teach this to my students at our social project here in Brazil. Thanks for the contribution.
FBohmer1972 3 months ago
Very nice technic will try to tech this to my students at our social project here in Brazil. Thanks for the contribution.
FBohmer1972 3 months ago
This is not Kata Guruma but Variation of Eri SEOI Nage ...lol
shogundidier69 3 months ago
Ty for this video.
boris1010 4 months ago
This is not kata guruma (Kusure) ... It is a variation (Kusure) of Eri Ippon seoi nage
PH3RN4NDO 5 months ago
Since when are you doing judo with a T shirt under your kimono!! Only girls do that, come on... And by the way, it's clearly not Kata guruma, but Seoi Nage Variations...
sysen 5 months ago
like it
alteye1 6 months ago
On youtube, everyone is a judo black obi
SiquelaTrevisan 6 months ago
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billslusser 8 months ago
Nice.
19thaman79 8 months ago
Go to our youtube page under okcdtjudo and look for the video titled "Ryan Willoughby Ippon- first match". At the end of that match, he hits this throw for ippon.
okcdtjudo 9 months ago
Will it work in a contest. How come there is no contest video of this strange throw.
JoachimderZweite 9 months ago
@JoachimderZweite Go to our youtube page under okcdtjudo and look for the video titled "Ryan Willoughby Ippon- first match". At the end of that match, he hits this throw for ippon.
okcdtjudo 9 months ago
perhaps it is an ippon guruma?? anybody agree
leralon 9 months ago
Now it's forbiden to take the legs
Shallaan 10 months ago
isnt that Seoi Otoshi?
vito445 1 year ago
@vito445 no
leralon 9 months ago
I wouldn't trust someone who confuses a kata guruma with a seoi nage....
Hobofobico 1 year ago
isn't there a rule about two hands on the same collar being illegal?
wtfasiankid8o8 1 year ago
@wtfasiankid8o8 It's a Shida if you hold the grip for more than 5 seconds without throwing.
strafefire 1 year ago
Very nice, but Kata guruma is not allowed anymore...
TuMAnu2007 1 year ago
is kata garuma now illegal in tournament? i know there are no more direct leg grabs.
fastr1337 1 year ago
Ippon Seoi Nage variation
mayari2008 1 year ago
Seoi Nage not Kata Guruma! Over one Sholder and not over Both!!
dschmitz71 1 year ago
@dschmitz71 morote-seoi-nage is seoi-nage over both shoulders...
loudenvier 1 year ago
@loudenvier: wow in wich world? Thats not Kata Gurma. No Guruma in thet throw.
dschmitz71 1 year ago
@dschmitz71 Well, I've said the direction of the throw, and the big wheel (guruma) that uke performs as it is being thrown is more in line with kata-guruma. This throw simply can't be seoi-nage, as the direction of the throw and kusuzhi are completely different than seoi-nage. Uke does indeed wheel over tori's shoulder, both of them, it is just that the left shoulder is not inserted between uke's leg. You can look at another variation here: watch?v=iPz6lYneJnI (I'll try to add it as video reply)
loudenvier 1 year ago
I could work ... but in a self defense situation, if you try to defend yourself with that technique... you would never get back up pretty dangerous outside the dojo!
guillermoloco 1 year ago
This is not Kata guruma. I't does'nt even look like seoi nage, more like ippon soei nage. But the fact is this is not a Kata Guruma :)
Feroxas2 1 year ago
I really enjoy that accent. What part of the country is that accent from?
1962SatanTookOver2 1 year ago
Looks like morote seoi nage sutemi ?
afatomafa 1 year ago
Looks like it's worth trying, especially with the new rules that effectively ban a normal kata guruma
bla7091 2 years ago
It doesn't matter what we call it... it works.
Thanks for sharing it!
sccjudo 2 years ago 4
@sccjudo Its seoinage, it matters how you call them, u might as well call them foot techniques if you dont care...
TuMAnu2007 1 year ago
@sccjudo It doesnt matter??? Didnt Dr. Tanaka take the time to teach you the Japanese? Of course he did, and of course it matters.
CEMJUDOTV 1 year ago
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@sccjudo @sccjudo It doesnt matter??? Didnt Dr. Tanaka take the time to teach you the Japanese? Of course he did, and of course it matters.
CEMJUDOTV 1 year ago
@sccjudo actually it does matter what you call it
leralon 9 months ago
These are Seoi Nage varations
judgement357 2 years ago 14
@judgement357 You have to pay attention to the direction of the throw. This is NOT a seoi-nage variation. Seoi-nage is a principle of Judo that has a specific characteristic kuzushi and kake, tsukuri varies a lot (see Koga's vs Okano, etc.) The kuzushi in this throw is more in like with kata-guruma, and the throw is executed as a big wheel over tori's shoulders, hardly seoi-nage.
loudenvier 1 year ago
@judgement357
1- This is not Kata Guruma.
2- This is a Seoi Nage
3- This variation is ERI Seoi Nage
Eri in English is collar.
murilorentes 3 months ago
is the kata guruma a good promotion into an arm bar
Sky4andSam3 2 years ago
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JuiceFacedMo 2 years ago
The rock drop (Ganseki Otoshi)does in an old judo technique the nature like the Collar in one side version does though it was.
..such how to enter was in this situation..
It is a wonderful applied technique.
It doesn't hit on for a moment in the Japanese.
mcamaster 2 years ago
tai seoi nage o morote seio nage variation
royu1581 2 years ago
the waza is legal, more usually described as a dropping eri seoi nage
sisabra 2 years ago
Is the blue one is Math hughes... he looks like him...
ayanantanazer 2 years ago
and about the kimono xd
when i start training judo, i trained like 2 weeks or something like that, without a judogui, and later my master lend me a gui, but the jacket was blue and the pants was white xd, i didn't like it too much, but whatever, it's better that train with clothes, and i went to competitions like that xd, but just in mi town or state, i cant go to competition with a gui like that in nationals, i dont know about other countries
KennyMungarro 2 years ago
i don't think this a kata guruma variation, it is like a morote seoi nage variation, droped, like the choi's morote, but i like it, your video can help other guys (:
KennyMungarro 2 years ago
i think, this tecnique is not legal. Blue slow white on kneeling
katientiegmailcom 2 years ago
,,xxdudummesauxx'' i think you're not respectful towards other judokas this reflect actually that you can't be a high class judoka,i lived in USA and they have great judo there.
take care
NICOSJUDO 2 years ago
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xxdudummesauxx 2 years ago
yep, I'm german, but that doesn't mean that i defend bundesliga teams, wearing yellow, black, red judogis or whatever. i definetley know teams like abensberg (red pants, black last year), esslingen (wearing yellow pants) etc...
talking about my judo level: you can't know it. right?
at some stages, you can get kicked out for wearing a mixed judogi.
xxdudummesauxx 2 years ago
don't mix up blue (jackets) with white (pants).
especially not on judo stages. especially not as judo teachers or coaches.
strange american guys, strange judo culture...
xxdudummesauxx 2 years ago
you can mix blue jackets even with red pants if you like,in the german Judo Bundesliga its even a trademark,some teams have black jackets and yellow pants,where is the problem?
NICOSJUDO 2 years ago
Nice... I'm gonna try it
UmDiaEuFicoBom 2 years ago
I really liked this one...looks very smooth and easy to do :)
thanks for posting!
lilrobie 2 years ago
this throw i think you will find is a variation of RYO HIZA SEOI OTOSHI just its a double lapel grip instead of standard grip of one lapel and one arm
crawfs666 2 years ago
this is ippon seoi nage variation (on the knees)
mugaXD 2 years ago
Good job guys!
4n7r4xxx 2 years ago
dats not kataguruma learn judo
giga927 2 years ago
idiot it is - look at the title it says verry clear VARIATION - this guys know judo just watch them ...
VVilliV 2 years ago
swain gi
thisisforsale 2 years ago
Call it whatever you want to, but this is a very nice technique when fighting someone that is the opposite hand. Thank you for posting this. I am going to study this further and teach it to my athletes once I have it mastered.
herkyoulees 2 years ago
look at 0:30, he is setting it up.. look at o:50 he is drawing the circle where he is going to land.. now.. at 1 min. he is in-between his legs. kata gurma translation. pin wheel. look he is making his oppent turn into a wheel....... that is totaly kata gurma.
kakashihataka1 3 years ago
Actually kata guruma is "shoulder wheel"
hkdharmon 2 years ago
niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i should try it.
EjenAmy 3 years ago
This is not Kata Guruma, it is a variation of Seio Nage called Ganseki Otoshi. The guy in blue did it very nicely and drops to his knees.
chihlitiger 3 years ago
that is totaly kata guruma. did you notice how he is in between his legs, how his body his to the side? kata guruma translation Pin Wheel.
i disagree that is kata guruma.
i have done that several times. i have done judo for nine years
and compeated int the junoir olympics
kakashihataka1 3 years ago
where exactly? at what second.... i cant really see any kata gurumas im just seeing some other variants of seoi nage
Good1Embiko 3 years ago
Pause it at 1:33. Now, I do understand what you are saying regarding seoi nage as this grip is similar to Koga's morote seoi nage on a left vs. right situation. Since tori is a left handed fighter if this was seoi nage uke would be falling in front of him over his left shoulder. Instead, tori is bringing him around in a manner that throws uke over right shoulder. If you ignore the grip and pause at 1:33 the throw looks just like drop kata guruma.
droman30 3 years ago
oh i see
Good1Embiko 3 years ago
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This is not a kata guruma whatsoever. This is a variation on morote seoi nage.
alphendulk 3 years ago
hay thats pick. thats what we call him. ya he is working out with sensi darter! i used to work out with them. well it wasnt much of a work out i just got my butt thrown around.
any way thanks Pick
kakashihataka1 3 years ago
looks more like a ipon seoi-nage. i'm relatively new to judo though.
Kosme88 3 years ago
It does kinda look like morote seoi-nage (drop), with kata guruma's tsukuri and kake
kyshogun 3 years ago
I like that - tried it in dojo and it works. Especially as I struggle with a strong right hand grip over the top against me. Like the guys say underneath tho you gotta throw immediately after taking same sided grip.
qprjudoboy 3 years ago
not every one wears a gi ^_^
EzpzNewb 3 years ago
yes they do
jibs182 3 years ago
err.. this is about judo right? no gi? hu hu hu
papar146 3 years ago
once you have a extreme left/right or leg/belt grip you have 3-5 seconds to throw and a throw must be attempted.
MortuusAnimus 3 years ago
good one, you'll take them down alright. except i'm pretty sure single side two hand grips are illegal. maybe not for just a split second though, i barely know shit about the rules to be honest haha
erikrass 3 years ago
As long as you instantly throw you can grip same side. I have been penalized for taking to long to throw though, so it is risky.
kosenjudo 3 years ago
thanks for the tipp
crakerdonut 3 years ago
very good ;)
gervasiopalha123 3 years ago
chevere !!
grimreaper78 4 years ago
These are my instructors, Brian Picklo & Mike Darter from OKCDT Judo in Oklahoma City. Didn't know they were movie stars, lol. Good stuff !
serekithegreat 4 years ago
Thank"s for the answer. And of course I"m gonna try this even if I am more Ashi Waza fan.
Dudongo86 4 years ago
What is Yudansha???
Dudongo86 4 years ago
kata guruma, KOSHI GURUMA (hip wheel) and drop seoi nage are all waza that competent blue and brown belts should be able to recognise. kata guruma is being done by green belts for grading requirements (nage no kata0 in many places. yudansha is a collective name for black belts- ie dan grades.
sisabra 4 years ago
beautiful Judo
LiveOakMartialArts 4 years ago
For your infomation, Kata-guruma(shoulder wheel), Goshi-kuruma(hip wheel), drop seonage are Yudansha techniques.
yoshiharuhabu 4 years ago
very nice, i must try this :D
deepcruz 4 years ago
Nice variation from sambo background
tokuiwaza 4 years ago
nice techniques,thanks!!!
willyboy 4 years ago