(DN!) UN Report Accuses RwandanTroops Of Genocide

[kazunguzungu]

Q #1?

[kazunguzungu]

@ ERLINDER:

"The Muzungu syndrom"

I pop up in your land, you indigenous negroes, I know it all, I am the knowledge, the truth, you shut up and listen while I explain you everything about YOU and your country. This is what you suffer from Peter: The muzungu syndrom. Sad that my country's image was shadowed by your diatribes, I only salute the SYMBOL: Being white egg-head from USA can't stop us stop you, lock you up and release you to go out of Africa and tell all that Rwanda is SPECIAL!

[tigerone1970]

@kazunguzungu

I completely disagree. Paul Erlinder is a great guy, it is Paul Kagame who is doing the West's bidding, and in the process is killing tens if no hundreds of thousands of Africans in the DRC. All so the West doesn't have to pay taxes or share profits on coltan, diamonds, and everything else that they drag out of the Eastern DRC. So who has the 'muzungu syndrome' now? Paul Erlinder is doing nothing against the image of Rwanda compared to Paul Kagame and Laurent Nkunda.

[kazunguzungu]

@tigerone1970 2 questions? 1. Who brought millions of Rwandans in Zaïre? 2. Between me and Erlinder, who's Rwandan?

Rgds,

SN

[tigerone1970]

@kazunguzungu

" 2. Between me and Erlinder, who's Rwandan? "

Who owns the coltan mines in the DRC? Who exports coltan to the West? Who has the global diamond mining and trade monopoly?

When that individuals name is Paul Kagale, let me know. 

[mikecorbeil]

Excellent interview, and the information is wholly and extremely important; clearly. What was done to Carla Del Ponte is clearly a criminal, highly criminal act that the U.S. committed and if we ever have a real court of law, then this is another crime U.S. leadership could surely be prosecuted for. It's at least obstruction of justice, which is a crime, but perhaps more charges could be laid against the US for what it did. Many articles at globalresearch[dot]ca about her and the ICTR, btw.

[tigerone1970]

Hi MikeCorbeil,

" What was done to Carla Del Ponte is clearly a criminal, highly criminal act that the U.S. committed and if we ever have a real court of law, then this is another crime U.S. leadership could surely be prosecuted for. "

The Bush Administration could not have done more to discredit the ICC. Except of course put it's own enemies on trial, while letting 'our' war criminals go. Of course Bush and Blair themselves have a lot of questions to answer.

[mikecorbeil]

tigerone1970,

I haven't viewed this DN! interview yet and will shortly. Will just note for now that you certainly know what to recommend for good resources. Keith Snow is to always be recommended, especially when it comes to Africa, and all the more especially for any African countries he's specifically done any research and writing about, investigatively.

[benadjax]

Africa is tired of western actors trying to fabricate the stories and playing us around,and those actors will never like Kagame as someone who try to wake up his people and give them the positive directions...please guys give us a space a,let us build our county and stop blind us.hutu and tusti is one of the virus the colonies injected in our brains but i think it's time to move forward as one nation,one culture and unit(that is the african we know before the evils came to divese us )

[kiasi09]

@benadjax Kagame wouldn't be where he is if it wasn't for western actors so stop believing that they are against him. that is simply kagame's rhetoric to get rwandans like u behind him. he does that to invoke an ethnic nationalistic emotion and gets everyone thinking that it's them against the world. kagame has full western support. who, against the west, would arrest an american lawyer with immunity on bogus charges and wont get in the main news. hutus n tutsi r not a virus, don't be blinded.

[MafiaGN260]

And if kagame is such a great leader as they say, why are his fellow tutsis who helped him become who he is today, complaining and others leaving the country because they are threatened? Why is he forcing people ut of their homes because he wants to build better buildings to impress usa and the rest of the world that Rwanda has developed since he became president while sending peaple to live on streets? Now he's being accused of genocide on hutus in congo? THE TRUTH HURTS HUH?

[MafiaGN260]

I feel sorry for the people who think that kagame is some kind of a hero, smart leader. If u think with head and not with ur heart, u'll realize that kagame is to blame for all the innocent tutsis that were killed during genocide.How cud he kill a hutu president knowing that the majority were hutus that had guns and machettes?Can anybody tell me that he didn't know what cud happen after he shot down that plane? Believe what u want but he knew that hutus cud avenge their president. Did he care?

[tigerone1970]

@MafiaGN260

Prof. Allan Stam 1 On Rwanda Genocide Data Collection

watch?v=0mH2l0cC3U8

Where did the Numbers Come from

watch?v=Ve2aqQ4Xj4Q

Professor Stam is a political scientist who does GIS (Geographic Information Systems), to correlate for instance the advance of the Rwandan army and reports of violence. Very interesting.

[kazunguzungu]

@tigerone1970 great! you watch these presentations by M. Stam, one point. Then you avoid reading his thoughts as the Holy Bible; you analyze it, ruminate it (if you are Rwandese, better) then you draw your own opinion. Never forget that scholars from rich famous US universities are still dummies into Rwanda complexities. Yet, I agree with you: It's of interest.

[gbwaba1]

why do you interview CRIMINALS? this man is WANTED in Rwanda for his crimes. He is not credible and should learn more about Rwanda and and not making his own story about Rwanda.

[tigerone1970]

@gbwaba1

Peter Erlinder is a criminal? Please explain, and please tell me how this relates to what he is saying.

[296TV]

@tigerone1970 Genocide denial i s a crime. He denies the genocide against Tutsi allthrough this clip thats how

[tigerone1970]

@296TV

It is called freedom of speech. And Paul Kagame deserves a lot of scrutiny.

[jeannshi]

@296TV Kagame denies genocide of Hutus too. how about making that a crime too?

[296TV]

@jeannshi Going by the dictionary ddefinition of Genocide, if Kagame's intentions where to wipe out the entire Hutu race why not start with the ones in rwanda??

[jeannshi]

@296TV using the same definition, how come it took 4 years for hutus to wipe out all tutsi in rwanda. how many years before 1994 did hutu and Tutsi live together in the same country without wiping the later. kadame does as the Hutus did. Clean as much as possible and then keep those who survived under check, gag them, and above all, have a narrative that tells only a one sided story. Do you think if Hutu won the war, it couldn't be kagame who would be in Arusha over war crimes.

[jeannshi]

@296TV the victor always dictates the course of history and not always the vanquished gets fair treatment when history is being written. rest assured that no matter what report the UN writes, kagame and his cronies will never be touched. they won the war and can subvert any effort to make them accountable for their crimes. add the incompetency of the UN....chances are, nothing will ever happen to him

[kiasi09]

@296TV that's exactly what kagame was doing. do you know what happened in the areas the RPF occupied before 1994? why do you think there were over a million internally displaced people mainly from that region. people don't just leave their homes, farms and lives for nothing. and go and read the the suppressed UN report that Erlinder referenced which reported that RPF was killing thousands of Hutus per month. actually, more Hutus were killed in Rwanda than Tutsis

[jeannshi]

@gbwaba1 Anyone can be a criminal if a totaritarian regime decides so. What makes a person credible according to you? what is it there to learn in Rwanda? how about attacking him on what he present as fact rather than deminzing a person so as to dissimulate truth. Even the UN accuses Rwanda of genocide and war crimes. So he doesn't make up stories, Rwanda made the story and he just narrate them

[angrycongolese]

Finally the truth about Kagame but what about Joseph Kabila (whose real name is Hypolite Kanembe, Congolese people believe is not congolese but really a rwandan ), Laurent Kabila, the multinationals, western countries and many more ...They should all be prosecuted. What's happenning in Congo(DRC) has a name: the war of COLTAN (Coltan is USED TO MAKE CELLPHONEs, COMPUTERS, weapons...). Coltan is the reason the war has lasted for more than 14years and has killed 8 millions of congolese so far.

[tigerone1970]

@angrycongolese

Right on. There are a lot of criminal corporations around, led by criminal CEOs. If there was a day of reckoning, and everyone was prosecuted to the full extent of the law, a lot of major corporations would disappear.

The people of Africa have been stolen of their raw materials, and this major fact has been hidden by appeals to racism, abstract and shallow reporting.

I hope with the internet, people will finally see what is really going on.