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  • Bishop Vlazny is the pedophile king.

  • Personally i think to drag them into the street and put a 9mm behind the ear is a touch too good for them - however it would satisfy many.

    

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  • @rivadeluna Vlazny is very bad .One day the secrecy on him will be broken. This bishop abuses all the privilege of a bishop to protect pedophile priests.

  • Respond to this video... great video . Now it is time to clean the church get rid of pedophile priests and cut their collection money.

  • Indict bishop Vlazny. Patron saint of pedophile-priests . this guy spend millions of diocese money for cover up and protection of bad priests.

  • @zts78zt agree with you Bishop Vlazny is probably the worse of the bunch. He is too deep in the cover up to change. His lady blond lawyer has a firm grip on him. Since the mid ninety they make the scandal worse and they loose every front . Vlazny and his girl got to go...

  • I love you all <3

    We must remember that Jesus Christ was sent by our Lord & God as our Savior, the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

    He asked that we be one as He and the Father are One (John 17:21)

    Our Lord & Savior has asked the Father time and time again to bring us all back to His Catholic (Universal) Christian Church. But we all know we have the freedom to reject the fullness of Truth or accept the fullness of Truth.

    Let us all be one in Jesus Christ, search "PILLAR FIRE TRUTH" on Google <3

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Why would God bring us under the direction of the Catholic Church when they openly rebel against the law of God as satan did in heaven? Isaiah 8:20 Ex.20. They changed the Sabbath commandment where GOD said to REMEMBER it. Why would God say to Remember it? Because the Roman Catholic Church says "Sunday is our MARK of authority. . the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact" Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1,1923.

  • Passages of Scripture such as Acts 20:7, 1 Cor. 16:2, Col. 2:16-17, and Rev. 1:10 indicate that, even during New Testament times, the Sabbath is no longer binding and that Christians are to worship on the Lord’s day, Sunday, instead.

    The early Church Fathers compared the observance of the Sabbath to the observance of the rite of circumcision, and from that they demonstrated that if the apostles abolished circumcision (Gal. 5:1-6), so also the observance of the Sabbath must have been abolished.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity God never gave man the authority to change His law which governs this universe. For God Himself does not change. Mal.3:6. Don't forget, the scriptures declare that what God has blessed no man can change. Numbers 23:20. "Behold, I have received [commandment] to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it." Again, Exodus 20:8-11 says, "Remember the sabbath". Why? because the vatican would change the day which God had blessed and hallowed. SUN-day is not the Sabbath!

  • @TheCatholicCommunity What the fuck? I clicked 16:19 and 18:18 and there's nothing on this fucking video.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity I clicked 17:21 and it didn't show anything you idiot.

  • Bishop Vlazny and co Fuck you evil garbage. You look highly suspicious and not catholic with your blonde lawyer . She has her hand in your pocket and the diocese coffer . Vlazny scum back .

  • yeah call them and say that EVIL man.

  • Sack Bishop Vlazny( Portland OR )and Pedophile-rapist priests ring . Destroy his wall of secrecy and his culture of lies , deceits and abuses . Demand to see his secrets files and the list of his tainted priests.

  • hang the lot off them

  • one word:  -- Religions....

  • WHAT? The Catholic Church?

    I'm a Luther Evangelic Christian, or whatever it is called, the normal church, like, yeah, you know, but is there something wrong with the Catholic Church? :S

  • @MariusMMS

    There is nothing wrong with the teachings of the Catholic Church, in fact, you should message me privately if you are interested <3

    I have some information that I am sure you will find very fulfilling :]

  • @TheCatholicCommunity The Catholic Church seems a bit corporate to me.

  • @MariusMMS

    I don't see how the Catholic Church seems a bit corporate to you, don't just say something and then neglect to say the reasons why. Otherwise it makes your statement invalid.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Because, too many rules and laws to obey.

  • Okay, so you believe that too many rules and laws to obey are wrong?

    The Catholic Church doesn't ENFORCE these rules, rather, the laws to obey and the rules are available, and the enthusiastic Catholic is more than able to learn the faith, growing as an individual and a Christian <3

    I've been Catholic since I was born, but I have just now began to study the faith, so it's not enforced, but we are expected to follow the rules and obey the law, it is for our OWN GOOD, it doesn't hurt us at all.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Well, I'm a Christian of free will and I believe that God made us for a reason; to live our lives.

    When forexample someone says that it is against Christianity to have sex before marriage, think about this; would God make us able to have sex before marriage then? If it really was against his will, he would make us unable to have sex before marriage. That's one of many things I think about when I call the Catholic Church corporate.

  • @MariusMMS

    Well I am sorry that you are not wise enough to understand Christianity and how God's will / freedom works.

    You said, why would God let us have sex before marriage if it is against His will?

    Why does God let us say "fuck you" if it is against His will? Why does God let us kill one another if it is against His will. Why does God allow many religions if there is only ONE TRUE CHURCH of God?

    Message me privately for more info, but know that I have a GREAT 1-2 minute read for this <3

  • @TheCatholicCommunity I'm sorry, my friend, but I don't get your point.

  • @MariusMMS

    Of course you don't <3 You are blind to the Truth, but only by CHOICE ^-^ Those who are blind to the Truth choose ignorance, if you took the time to message me instead of making rude remarks, you could be learning about your Lord & Savior, your God, the one who loves you dearly but will not hesitate to send you into eternal suffering away from Him if you choose ignorance. God is merciful but He is also just. If He sees you were "choosing" ignorance, then you were "choosing" Hell.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, my friend.

    Well, I believe that everyone is going to Heaven.

  • @MariusMMS

    Hitler is going to heaven? Judas who betrayed Jesus Christ for 30 gold coins and then committed suicide?

    You have it all wrong, if you'd like, you can message me privately, I will answer one question every 2-3 days, feel free <3

    I love you dearly and I pray that you will not choose ignorance. You will find that being a faithful Catholic (Universal) Christian will be the greatest move you can ever make in your lifetime here on earth <3

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Ok, my friend, I see that you are trying to be nice, and that's good. If I have any questions further, I will ask you :)

  • @MariusMMS

    Your change of heart is a step forward <3 I am glad that you are seeing me as a kind person, I try to reflect the goodness of the Church but it is difficult when you are being attacked :] Luckily, the attacks are always lies so fighting back with the Truth really makes for no battle at all. The only difficult thing is when others choose ignorance.

    Please, let me know when, if you are not going to message me now, you won't message me later.

    Much Luv <3 UniQuE

  • @TheCatholicCommunity I don't know yet, but when I have questions, I will ask them :)

  • @MariusMMS

    You will never have questions if you aren't challenged ^-^ Message me privately, let me give you a link, after you read through the link, you will have QUESTIONS <3 And let me tell you, this link will change your life :]

    I'll actually go ahead and send it now =D

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Thank you, my friend :D I'll look into it ^^

  • @MariusMMS

    I am very proud of you <3 Perhaps you will know even more than me about the teachings of the Catholic Church :) But the best way to learn about Her is through the "Catechism of the Catholic Church" which I actually just bought a few days ago ^-^ I can't wait to read it :D

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Is that a book? :D

  • @MariusMMS

    She is very precious to me <3 I have yet to read her but I will most-definitely do so in the near future :)

    I'm sure you can get your hands on one if you find a Catholic Church near you and inquire ^-^ I bought mine for $20 and of course, all money goes to the Church :)

    You will find all of the answers in this book and it is truly nothing to be afraid of. It is about eight-hundred pages but it is filled with Truth <3 I truly pray that everyone would get their hands on one :]

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Cool :D Maybe I will search for it when I have time :3

  • @MariusMMS

    Sure thing <3

  • @MariusMMS Don't message privately, he'll groom you as well!

  • @TheCatholicCommunity So you think making a statement and not backing it up is invalid. Well.where do i start? did god flood the whole earth, as the evidence says otherwise? Was there a virgin birth, as the evidence says otherwise? Was there a resurrection, as the evidence sayds otherwise? etc etc etc.......The bible is full of contradictions, in fact one of the gospels does not even mention the virgin birth! what nonsense it all is. Sad really.

  • @sids500

    The Bible contains no contradictions, science has tried to disprove the Bible time and time again but they cannot.

    Surely the Bible would have been crushed by science and new technology, developments, etc, if it were untrue, but it has not. That is from the OLD TESTAMENT to the NEW TESTAMENT, absolutely nothing from science can disprove the Bible.

    As the Church says, science and religion coexist and work together. Science cannot and will not ever disprove Christianity.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity No contradictions, are you serious? Here are 2 of the millions - Love thy neighbour -- yet -- Kill the Amalacites, God loves all -- yet -- Flood the Earth. As for science disproving the bible, where is the evidence for any of it? Just one small piece would be a start, but there's none. The bible stories contain text on how god started storms, which science now understands. Bacteria is now known to cause disease, not god. The Earth is 4.3billion years old, not 6000. Explain.

  • @sids500

    If you search "7 reasons to be Catholic" on YouTube, you can see for yourself why it is completely logical to be a Christian.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Sorry. Viewed the first few of those, and found not a single reason to believe any of it.

  • @sids500

    Well at least you tried <3

    I will send you a private message, we'll take this into private so we can really find out what's holding you back :)

  • @TheCatholicCommunity no thanks. do it in public please. Privately in your church is where the child abusers were!

  • @sids500

    I already sent the message privately, you did not respond and that is of course, your loss.

    Your ignorance on the whole child abuse thing is just pathetic and childish.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity I said i wouldn't, didn't I. As for childish. You base your life on a fairy tale, cherry-picking the good bits only. sounds like a fairly childish trait to me. If you are not prepared to discuss in public, then goodbye. If you need the cloak of secrecy to discuss a scandal which encompassess huge issues, mainly secrecy, then you miss the irony, and alienate others. Just sit back and actually find out what has happened and the scale. Then tell me all's OK.

  • @sids500

    You don't understand our religion, if you did, you would know that HUMAN BEINGS are completely fallible, able to make mistakes. That includes ALL PRIESTS, BISHOPS, and yes, the POPE.

    Now that we have established this, what is the problem you have? Oh.. the fact that you don't believe in God? Well then, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SO! oh..... because you were so distracted with talking about pedophile priests that you failed to talk about the main issue which is the existence of God.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Loving the angry capital letters. Usually a sign that your arguments are wearing thin, and the shouting has started. As for the "main issue" being the existence of god, you could not be further from the truth. I am an atheist. do you understand the meaning of the word? There is no god. The bible, which tells you about god, is full of contradictions and none of it has ever been backed by evidence. The issue is people's treatment of other people, is much more important.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Also, as usual, no explanation or answer to the question asked in the post you are replying to. Just quote the boible eh? Thast's all you have, and it's meaningless without blind faith, and therefore meaningless! I asked you if it's OK, what's happening, as you are clearly more interested in defending your blind faith than the victimds here. That's the Catholic Church all over. Sweep it under the carpet and protect the church!

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Yet again, it's getting a bit wearing now. Please at least attempt an answer to a question. I have.

  • @sids500

    I will not answer your questions where I am limited to 500 characters.

    Thank you.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Again, a refusal to even attempt any answers. I guess it must be hard as you know you have no persuasive arguments, or any facts to base them upon. Still, millions of others seem to be able to debate within the same confines. Never mind, I'll debate with someone else.

  • @sids500

    Yah, you go do that, because I specifically invited you to message me in private and you refuse.

    I take back that invitation of course, because even in private you would just choose to be ignorant. So I love you and I pray for you and others like you <3

    Take care my potential brother in Jesus Christ, you have your entire lifetime to learn the Truth, but you don't know when you will die.

    The beautiful thing is that if you spend your life LOOKING for God, you MAY go to Heaven <3

  • @TheCatholicCommunity If you are american it's not surprising but the irony is that we are ttrying to discuss a secret cover-up of an awful plethors of unspeakable deeds, yet you want to discuss in private, like a schoolroom bully. If you had any decent arguments, you would be fine in public. Never mind, that's how catholics work these days, "cloak and dagger"! Mainly dagger! Bye.

  • @sids500 That's so funny I forgot to laugh.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity And you refused an answer under 500 characters, refused an answer in public. Sounds like you just plain cannot or will not answer. Quite common amongst the religious fraternity. Reason being, of course, that their arguments contain so many holes, it's embarassing for them. I'm bored with your obstructiveness, unwillingness to even attempt debate, and your closed-mindedness. You just quote the bible, that's all you have!

  • @sids500

    Ask your question, you can only ask ONE QUESTION or ONE CONCERN at a time, if you try to change the subject, I will block you and I can care less if you spam the comment section claiming that I am not answering your question.

    You read this or not? ONE QUESTION or ONE CONCERN; that is all.

    If you bring up more than one, you will be ignored. If you change the subject, you will also be ignored.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Oh you have your own rules of debate now, laid out by "shouting" in capital letters. Nice. OK then, nice simple question. Why should we not prosecute the Pope for his involvement in the cover-up of hundreds of thousands of instances of child abuse?

  • @sids500

    Recalling a recent meeting with victims of sex abuse by clergy, Pope Benedict XVI reiterated his promise that the church was doing everything it could to end abuse.

    The pope privately met April 18, 2010 with eight men who had been abused as minors by priests.

    "I shared in their suffering and, with emotion, I prayed with them, assuring action on behalf of the church," he said at the general audience.

    -

    Pope Benedict XVI has done SO MUCH to prevent sex abuse from happening again.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity So he should not be prosecuted for conspiracy to allow child abuse of hundreds of thousands of children worldwide simply because he has publicly apologised to a handful of them. Is that justice? Do you think any non-catholics would be happy with that? do you really believe even that all catholics would support your view? He has covered this up! He even gave someone a job at the Vatican who was in danger of being prosecuted! Simply praying means nothing to a non-catholic.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity U use "catholic" & "christian" interchangeably. Such arrogance, lack of acknowledgement of others religious reality (esp when they r less abusive than what catholicism produces)--- this can lead to genocide! Hopefully u r not pro-genocide by catholics. Jesuits created "liberation theology" to incite S. Americans against white protestants "anglos" & used Hart-Celler to open border to incited pp., b/c u.s. was a protestant country, a catholic hate campaign.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Fuck off you stupid catholic pricks, we dont need you to convert us, were smart enough not to join your shit.

  • @TheRedTavern

    More like ignorant :(

  • @TheRedTavern Hey fuck you I'm a priest and God speaks directly to me. Now take this round little piece of cardboard we call the flesh of Christ and shove it up your ass.

  • @FatherPatOphelia Suck my mother fucking dick you pedo, hail Satan motherfucker!

  • @TheRedTavern

    Do not go down to his level my brother (or sister) in Christ.

    -

    We should call him (referring to FatherPatOphelia) as a lost soul who does not understand (and probably does not wish to understand) who our God is.

    -

    Pray for those like him and treat them kindly, remember the Scriptures:

    1 Peter 3:9

    Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity You christians need a little THC man.

  • since when has the catholic church become some sort den for pedophiles??

  • @EtherealDreamer

    People look for anything to make the Catholic Church look like it is not the Church of God. We must understand that it is not the PEOPLE who make the teachings of the Catholic Church, but rather God through the power of the Holy Spirit. No Catholic teaching out there contradicts the Bible or tells priests to sexually abuse people, but that's just a problem when we have human beings representing the Church. There are going to be some bad people, but the Church remains True.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity OK, so the church remains true you say. Lets look carefully at the only part of the bible in which god spoke. The 10 commandments. supposedly the 10 most important rules of life. The first 3 cover gods vanity, and order love (creepy). Others treat women as chattels, and mention oxen. I have no oxen in my life, not sure about you? There are only 3 worth having, murder, adultery and false witness. all of these are covered by previous scriptures and the golden rule. Explain.

  • @TheCatholicCommunity Is it not statistically probable that man wrote this nonsense alone? As society changes, these commandments become more and more outdated. Why would a loving god insist on no other idols? Why would he force you to love him or go to hell? Why is childcare or abuse not mentioned? Why is it not obvious to you that this was written by middle-eastern farmers as a primitive law book, and is not a book to be taken seriously in 2011? Why did god ignore man for 198,000years?

  • Is it any wonder there are sexual abuse chargers. Really...? Logically it makes sense. The church targets people with troubled pasts, when they are at a weak point of their lives. It is quite easy to manipulate anyone with a desperation for help. Only problem is, these people don't deal with their past experiences, they believe some mysterious deity will solve it and avoid the issues. This is never a good thing - it's why we have councillors and all sorts of professional help.

  • malditos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • the Catholic church is an evil empire

  • @mrjugger evil does not last. the nazis were gone in 9yrs

    the church is 2000yrs old

  • A Catholic priest should also be part of  the of the police line-up, when identifying possible sex offenders concerning children at police stations.

  • @sukkha911 The statistics are that abused children are, 2 times out of every 3, molested by their own family members. So maybe you should ask if some parents, aunts and uncles should be present the police line ups, too.

  • @TenderTrap86  Yes...the usual suspects and the most unusual suspects ! No one should be excluded from suspicion.

  • @sukkha911 No. The fact of the matter is that Roman Catholic priests are not the usual suspects in child molestation cases. Look at the statistics of children being abused. It happens under their own roof, but the ignorance and arrogance remain. No wonder Sigmund Frued all but died from depression, seeing all the dopes and ignoramuses in the world who could care less about the truth and more about what happens within their own mind to satiate the fantasies of their own distorted, inflated egos.

  • "Do as I say or you're going to hell," the priest told the little boy. Religion can be a bitch sometimes.

    God is real, by the way. Smile. You're on candid camera.

  • There's a lot of talk about child sex abuse. The funny thing is though is that the religious indoctrination of small children is abuse to begin with but no-one seems to want to discuss it.

  • @Zeon11111 Oh, your not against indoctrination. You just want children to grow up to believe what you believe.

  • @TenderTrap86 Right. I'm not against indoctrination. I want things to stay as they are, with small children being taught scripture, like the the world is 6000 years old, like talking snakes, like sky god commands obedience.

  • @Zeon11111 "I want things to stay as they are, with small children being taught scripture, like the the world is 6000 years old, like talking snakes, like sky god commands obedience."

    You said it! Amen! Alleliua brotha! I knew you'd come around!

  • @TenderTrap86 Thank you! I could never have done it without your guidance and wisdom. Clearly, all kids need today is good religious instruction from the Bible, not that evilution and science crap.

  • @Zeon11111 You got it! Remember, don't relapse into believing "evilution". After all, what can be said about a "scientific fact" that was featured alongside dancing mushrooms and hippopotami in Fantasia, brought to the screen by the king of the "happily ever after" endings, Walt Disney?! And athist/agnostics think we believe in fairytales! Go figure...

  • @Zeon11111 You got it! Remember not to relapse into believeing in "evilution". After all what can be said about a "scientific fact" that can't be proven and was featured alongside of dancing mushrooms and ballerina hippopatomi in Fantasia, brought to the screen by the king of "happily ever after" endings, Walt Disney! And athiests think we believe in fairytales. Go figure.

  • @TenderTrap86 Absolutely. Disney is Evil! Thank God there's none of that fairytale stuff in the Bible, like talking animals, 600 year-old men, virgin mothers, magic trees, supernatural powers, zombies, demons and invisible spirits.

  • @Zeon11111 Get my PM, Brother Zeon!

    PS The oldest living man in the Bible was over 900 years old. 600 years old? Phffft, that's for Muslims, silly!

  • @TenderTrap86 Yep.

  • fucking priests their somebody should shove a grenade up their asses and they should be made to cut off their dick and make them eat it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • There was a time when priests were allowed to marry; but in the 11th century, Pope Gregory VII waged a campaign to end clerical marriage. The families and children were persecuted. He was particularly concerned that children of priests would inherit church properties and create dynasties. There you have it -- Love of mammon and fear of what might happen. This is what the Roman Catholic church is founded on -- principles not of God.

  • @jzamurillo That was a poorly concieved statement and it sounds like it was 100% regergitation. "Create dynasties"? What will lying or amnesiac historians come up with next? Okay, I'll play... how does one create a dynasty?

  • @TenderTrap86 Who cares how they are created. The point is the paranoia on which Catholic doctrine has been adopted. The question you fail to address is whether the facts are true. Obviously, your aim is to continue the propagation of confusion. Scandal after scandal that follows the Catholic church should point to the question whether its government leaders can be trusted to share what the genuine word of God states. You have some study to do.

  • @jzamurillo Scandal after scandal pervades in every corner of the world, no exceptions. /// The facts I've not escaped. The men who are guily and are guilty and should be punished for their deeds. that includes the perverted, pedophilic priests and the bastardized, bull shit bishops who tried to cover it up. I hope justice is served and every tear is dried. /// My debate is against those ignorant, outrageous, outlandish, arrogant claims that the Catholic Church and all Catholics are disordered.

  • The catholic church has broken the law, it should loose it's tax exempt status.

  • @infospear Breaking the law is beside the point. All churches should loose their tax-exempt status. They are business organizations and they are blatantly politically active.

  • @infospear as if the govt. never breaks the law. should the govt. lose its tax exempt status?

  • this one is amazing!

    True colors huh

  • kiddy fiddlers, loons, goons and nut-jobs.....

  • Google the fact that their was infiltration of Vatican planned for years to bring the Church down and Our Lady of Fatima warned it would "begin at the top" in "1960" and Angello Roncalli, who posed as Pope fainted but hid the secret. Also the protestants wrote the new mass and tried to out and oust EVERY traditional, They wrote a new mass which changed 75% of the old and even changed Christs words at the consecration to exactly the same as the protestants. The Latin Mass is still here Sorry!

  • they should let priests and nuns marry. this sin started by not letting priests and nuns marry. a conservative Pope made the law about not letting priests or nuns marry not Jesus or God. God created a woman to be a companion to man and God created a man to be companion to a woman. GOD created male and female to be companions to each other not just someone to have sex with each other like teenagers hormones tend to get them in trouble boys don't think to use birthcontrol

  • I was just watching a clip on the bbc news website about the priest who has been named in the investigation as an abuser but have never been punished for his crimes. I cant get over the numbers here..one or two i could understand but over 180? its like a club or something.

    As a gay man i am offended that people can link being gay and child molestation. Its down to individuals of all sexualities that carry out these sickening crimes.

    The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for.

  • the answer to stopping these sick fuck pedophiles...casteration, but not only casteration, they should have to be made to eat what is cut off. the catholic church is a haven for these bastards and their churches should be legally closed down by international governments.

  • people who are gay or have a tendency to molest children have no business in the church or anything christian as the bible has totally condemned this. priests who fall into this cathegory should be ex-communicated and the church should bring back the old tradition were priests could marry ( women ) if they so choose because only a married man knows what marriage is and only a father knows what children are like.

  • They can marry, they are called deacons. And gay does NOT equate paedephia, these are child rapists that abuse both girls and boys because they were easy prey and they had the protection of the church to do it. The church may condemn two consenting adults that are gay but it totally condones raping the most vulnerable...go figure.

  • very funny. deacons are not priests. the bible not the church condemns gays and pedophiles. they have no business preaching the word. personally i have nothing against gays. just wanted to mention this point as it is one of the laws of the life they try to live.

  • then they shouldn't take a vow to remain celebate, no one forces them to. I repeat, gay does not equate raping children.

  • that doesn't mean that the Bible excusses such acts does it? it may not equiviate child abuse but both are condemned by the Bible simple. this is my point. not about force.

  • Excuses homosexuality? Sorry..am I missing something here..THESE MEN OF GOD ARE RAPING CHILDREN. If you aren't gay, great, enjoy your hetrosexuality, but you seem to be confusing two consenting adults that have the right to love whoever they want with men that take a solemn vow to remain celibate and go on to rape innocent children under an organization that protects it. Seems condemning people for being gay is the least of the "evils" the Catholic church should be preaching about.

  • very funny my friend. you in your quest to give an excuss to the morality of two adults having a common consent is not my point. gay people can be what they are and straights what they are same for animal sex. what i am saying and please do not confuse this with what you say is this " THE BIBLE CONDEMNS BOTH CHILD ABUSE AND SAME SEX." hope this is clear so far? that said, any form of sexual molestation be it child or adult should not be condoned. that the church hides such acts ia atrocious.

  • @Chastrie The Catholic Church doesn't condemn the homosexual tendencies, but rather the homosexual "lifestyle". You will find no document, not one, backing up your own declartation about what the Church of Rome teaches.

  • @TenderTrap86 though it hides men that rape children? Interesting, please tell me the difference between "homosexual" and "homosexual lifestyle". You seem to be missing the point I made while you were trying to tell me I am somehow trying to shame the Institution of the Catholic Church. Read people's comments a little more closely before commenting.

  • @Chastrie The Church didn't hide anybody. Individual bishops and priests were the cover up artists. They should, and most likely will, pay dearly for the deep, deep lacerations of the victims and scandal throughout the rest of the Church. These men are dispicalbe.

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  • @TenderTrap86 Watch a docomentary called "Deliver Us From Evil"..the Catholic church absolutely does hide child molesters, not only does it do that, it also tries to make the victims that DO come forward believe that they imagined it. They don't "pay dearly" they simply get shuffled to a new parish, new children to molest and the full canvas of the Church's protection.

  • @Chastrie I saw the documentary. Individuals hide, institutions cannot. Institutions don't commit crimes, people do. Are they still getting shuffled around from parish to parish? No. That was then, this is now. For 2009, only 10 abuse cases (that's any kind of sexual abuse) were filed in the entire, world wide Church. PS Yes, they are hyprocrites. What did I say to make you think I was defending them? Please?

  • @Chastrie Being a homosexual doesn't mean that you have to live the homosexual lifestyle. It only means that a person is attracted to a person of the same sex. But, acting on that attraction is what's wrong, so the Church condemns it. The Church also condemns fornication, adultery, and marital sex with contraceptives. The homosexual lifestyle is along these same lines of sexual immorality. The Church condemns any sexual act in which there is no ability or intent to create a new life, a new soul.

  • @TenderTrap86 and the point I have made here is that these men of God are raping children, even on a Catholic level, ignoring the repugnant act itself, that is a union that will not produce a new life thus in the same sin pool as everything else they condemn. I'm not stating Catholic beliefs I am stating the inherent evil these men commit while telling others the life they live is wrong. They are hypocrites.

  • @Chastrie Yes! For crying out loud: yes! I'm agreeing with you about the guilty but not about the innocent who you seem to be lumping togather, in the Catholic Church.

  • @TenderTrap86 Actually my family are Catholic so you're wrong there. It's pointless continuing this conversation with you because it just goes round in circles. Nice picture of Che, can't say he'd agree with you though.

    Peace.

  • @Chastrie That you're family is Catholic is irrelvant to the discussion. It's obvious you're lumping the good vast majority into the same heap as the bad small minority. This is intolerable.

  • @TenderTrap86 Yes, and I see making sure you get in the last word is very important to you, I don't believe ONCE I have stated ALL Catholics rape children. Btw, if you're going to preach to others of their "intolerable" behaviour perhaps it's a good thing not to take sly jabs at Muslims...hypocrite.

  • @Chastrie Muslims? wtf? Where did you see that?

  • @TenderTrap86 i dont think so sunshine, you are all in the same church and give money in donations

  • Then perhaps you should have said that in the beginning instead of saying people that are GAY have a tendency to MOLEST CHILDREN and have no business in the church, you also condemned homosexuality then changed track saying it is acceptable. So many Christians like to judge others with an air of superiority, pity they are never so hard on the paedophile's that their church protects.

  • that my last comment was deleted shows how true and heterophobic gay people can be. you fight for understanding and similar treatment yet you condemn others outright? shame on you people. I THEREFORE REPEAT, "ENJOY YOUR GAYISM." if this is deleted again then you would have proved my point. shame on you vaticanexposed for doing this.

  • Yeah, if that was directed at me, I'm not actually gay, I just won't abide by people telling others who they love is wrong..unless it's a Catholic priest and a defenceless child.

    Condemning others outright? I believe it was you in your first comment that stated because someone is gay they have a tendency to rape children, sorry, I believe the Catholic church has the monopoly on that one. Perhaps you should be examining the real evil do-ers instead of who the bible tells you they are.

    So long. X

  • that were you're wrong. i never tried to tell people how to live their lives. on the contrary. i only retiorated what the bible which the church tries to preach has said. so pls read again and appolizise later as i won't be acussed unjustly. also you can "not be not actually gay" ; it either you are YES or you're not NO. there's nothing btw so own up to who you are. if you are, good luck; if you're not, good luck. be proud of who and what you and stop trying these back door methods. GOD bless

  • It's true well known that the Roman Catholic church is the las largest organsation wth the largest number of gays. Please don't attack me but me ur own reasearch aboutit. I truely wonder why we still have catholics going after their laeaders and their shepherd (the pope). The Pope himself has to answer some crimes before he was elected a pope. Surely the roma Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon. revelation says come out of her my people. Read ur Bibles

  • @katokemeat Gee the catholic church sounds great ! I wonder if they would be in a "retired" senior Sinn Fein member with a fetish for young girls ?.... or would I need to change over to little boys to fall in line with the church policy ?

  • all the high priest rape children its a demonic ritual get out of her you people find jehovah

  • get rid of those maggots,, they rape babies for Gods sakes

  • jesus......

  • catholic church = christian pedophilic con job cult

  • @Somai82 go to hell you fucking turd, just because michael jackson was a pedophile we don't go calling the rest of his family child molesters you ignorant fuck.

  • No, that's because the rest of his family weren't fucking closet gays.

  • I think it's high time the Irish Government got off the fence and either sided with the people or the Church. They can't have it both ways. They still refuse to take over the school system from the Church and still defers to them when it comes to laws on morality. Indeed the courts are no better when dealing with these abusive priests, they average a 6 month suspended sentence, so what's the point in taking them to court when the courts will protect them?

  • @celticlofts

    Funny a how people ignored the abuse in secular state childrens homes for years and the fact our government swept these abuses under the carpet as they did with the child abusers in the Welsh Childrens homes that where riddled with paedophiles.

    More Kids have been abused in secular institutions than by priests of whom only 0.4% are abusers avery small minority of priests.

  • "Pope Benedict shares the 'outrage, betrayal and shame' felt by the Irish people over a government report that said Church leaders covered up widespread sexual abuse of children for 30 years, the Vatican said on Friday."

    Yeah, right. The only thing Benny the Rat is ashamed of is that the cover-up failed.

    Just more proof that the catholic Church is pure evil.

  • Yeah that made me feel sick.. and you know the sheep will be flocking to the Church and the pope this Christmas ignoring the fact that he was instrumental in the cover-up. Then again sheep have short memories I'm told.

  • Funny thing is that years ago I used to link Christmas Eve with the message from Pope John Paul.

    Now all I link the Catholic Church with covering up evil.

    The religious right is pretty bad in the U.S.A. but at least we can fight their inroads into government. I cringe to think about living in a country where the church ran the schools!

  • @MrOldSlacker don't insult the pope you fucking scum, he had nothing to do with this.

  • Hey MrNarutopwnage,

    Remember this from August 2005?:

    "VATICAN CITY -- Lawyers for Pope Benedict XVI have asked President Bush to declare the pontiff immune from liability in a lawsuit that accuses him of conspiring to cover up the molestation of three boys by a seminarian in Texas, court records show."

    Just because you decide to turn off what little brain you have and bow to a Roman dictator does not mean the rest of us have to you brainwashed twit! To hell with Benny!

  • he's not a dictator you whore, he doesn't tell people what to do he's a spiritual leader who gives people SUGGESTIONS on how to live their lives. you could learn a thing or two, like not being a retarded dick and listening to everything the media tells you.

    And I'm not brainwashed, I have a mind of my own, I just have faith. To hell with you and all fucking atheists, you'll be fucking sorry, on your death bed you'll say " I want to see a priest"

    I know you're thinking it's BS but you will

  • First of all, if I want to see a priest, I'll look at the convicted sex offender registry. Second of all, your popes have a long history of murder, looting and crimes against humanity. Benny is a crook just like the rest of them.

    But enough of that. I want to thank you for you CHRIST LIKE attitude. You really make me want to convert to your religion.

  • The Vatican has a pathological obsession with protecting guilty clergy complicit in the abuse of children - and furthermore the protection of those complicit in the cover-up of clergy sexual abuse.

  • @PressPlay2Go

    As has state run Childrens homes that have covered up child abuse for decades.

    Paedophiles are pardophiles before they become priests,teachers,social workers, and often train for years in order to enter proffessions/organisationse they can abuse kids.

    0.4% of preists abused kids a small minority compared to the abuse by non - religious abusers and yes many secular instituitions covered it up and still do.

  • This would be a good reason to restore capital punishment. Call the abuse what it really is: slow torturous murder. Give the perpetrators a choice between lethal injection, hanging, drowning, electric chair or gassing. These are limited options but more than the bastards gave THEIR vulnerable victims.

  • When are these evil people going to be brought to The Hague?

  • another reason to sell the Vatican.

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