absolutely fantastic video man! It brings a smile to my face knowing that there are those out there so organized, knowledgeable, and have taken the time to construct such turnkey systems. i wish you years of flourishing profits and products, and good tokes all around. thanks for spreading the knowledge!
ok hold on, so ur saying "Pumps & foggers are 1 on 5 off or pumps constant & foggers 15 on 15 off depending on budget" Regardless of the lighting just constantly cycling thru out the whole day? What Does the pumps being constant have to do with a budget? Please explain this is just throwing me off big time...
it is a budget concern because an adjustable cycle timer, one that allows you to do 1 on 4 off or whatever you choose is about $150, where as a segment timer, 15 on, 15 off is about $10. The water cycle has nothing to do with the light cycle, it remains constant day & night.
The system is a 3 way hybrid, Aero / fog / DWC. It's a little cheaper for a single site box, not much though, most of the cost is in the fogger & pumps. You would save about $10 for a single site vs. 6 site.
Yes, the FogBox system is a type of SOG, you end up with a complete canopy. The plants will pretty much take whatever space you give them. I just finished up an SCOG grow, I'll up a video in the near future. As far as roots tangling together, I've grown 6 plants, 5 ft tall each in a FogBox XL (45 gallons, 2'x3') with no issues.
Clogs can be avoided by using an in line filter or by simply enclosing your pump in a filter bag, pantie hoe or jelly strainer bag.
Foggers require you to change the disks every 90 days or so (replacements are $10). They are solid state, so no moving parts to break. I have had some in continuous operation for over a year.
No the different size FogBoxes provide more than enough room for the roots. The FogBox XL, usually used for flower, is approx. 2'x3' giving each plant about 1cubic foot of room and about 18" of vertical space
What I find interesting is that you offer delivery and set up. It seems to me that a grower would be taking an awful big risk letting your company employees know where they live and will be growing.....especially if they are planning on growing without a medical card. In fact, the knowledge that anyone else knew about my grow system/location other than me would drive me crazy. Loose lips sink.....growers!!!
I guess you would have to meet me to understand. I am all about empowering people. When I first started, I wasted a lot of time and money learning things. I'm trying to save others that frustration. I also ship or meet at a neutral location for those who do not want assistance.
Foggers are awesome they root clones faster and with more biomass than anything else you can use, they're not ideal for full scale feeding applications on a commercial level, however like this fine gentlemen's products lucky for us we have lots of options in hydroponic systems to supplement and there's always room for hybrid systems. My thinking is fog grows the root mass so extensively it forces the plant to demand nutrient levels fog can't deliver, therefore it drawfs. So using a second system
Should help you mitigate this issue, while at the same time getting your maximum yield potential from whatever plant you're growing. I personally would love to try flood and drain combined with ultrasonic fog.
The fact remains if this mans prices are fair, then this indeed is a good product based on the technologies and techniques he is employing.
I would suggest you're careful with the nutrients you use in this system though, you want something that fully dissolves aka non organic.
Thank you for your kind words and thought on the matter. It's always nice when someone with growing knowledge "gets it". As far as nutes go, you are correct, NPK mineral salts are the way to go. I have used Advanced Iguana organic before with pretty good results, but it makes for quite a chore when it's time to clean up the boxes & clogs up filters. I have had my best results with a quality 2 part mix like Advanced sensibloom & grow, House & Garden AquaFlakes or the GH grow/micro/bloom 3 part.
Supernatural is great for people new to hydro or anyone who doesn't want to deal with PH and doesn't mind using a clearing solution (clearex, final flush, super leach, ect) a few time per cycle. You need the clearing solution because this stuff is HEAVY and leaves mineral deposits.
It's semantics, sprayers and misters are the same thing, the water droplet size comes from the pressure you out through it from the water pump. More pressure = smaller droplet.
BTW switch to General Hydroponics based net cups, I suggest this because they have bigger gaps and it looks like yours are strangling the roots, that isn't good, it slows their potential. They could be bigger and we all love bigger don't we kids. You're right pH balance shift is good, plants absorb different nutrients at different pH. For Hydro I'd want 5.5-5.8. Supernatural claims they're self balaacing pH wise if you use their line. Might be just the thing for this.
Grow the reason you can't get through with just Fog is the insanely accelerated root growth with Fog, the surface area is increasing exponentially in turn so is the nutrient uptake. So you're right you need Aero and or DWC or both for redundancy. It isn't that the Fog doesn't work its that the plant wants so much Fog its impossible to satisfy it... if you could it should just keep growing exponentially.
I am currently getting around 2oz per plant myself. It is my 2nd cycle and i use CO2. As far as density goes, I use humbolt Gravity with great results. Keep growing! FogBox Rox!
I don't understand... I thought the point was to grow big, productive plants and have fun doing it. I don't see how I am killing that. Have you ever made it through a whole cycle with just fog? I would love to see it.
If I'am looking to grow 4-6 plants, should I go FogBox which looks messy or should I go with a All in one Grow cabinet. I can get the cabinet with lights, nutes etc.... Even has a charcoal vent system. It runs $750. But the FB looks cheaper to make with better results. Give me a ballpark figure on a six plant fogbox setup rom scratch, minus clones of course. ty
What fogger are you using and do you just float it in the main res? Also how long do you run each system daily....Fog,mist,bubbler? is it 24/7 with the fogger and bubbler?
Foggers are custom, They float in the DWC. Pumps & foggers are 1 on 5 off or pumps constant & foggers 15 on 15 off depending on budget. Air bubblers are 24/7
Thanks everybody for all the support! Response has been amazing! I hope all you FogBoxers out there are growing strong. Remember, support is only a phone call away, feel free to use it, we want you to succeed.
It is really easier than it seems, upkeeps is super easy, just change the water every two to four weeks & watch your PH (5.8 is ideal, but it's a good idea to let it drift between 5.5 & 6.3, plants uptake different nutes ant different PH)
It is an option. In the video, that grower was using different strains mixed together. We used extensions and top feed system so that they could be even with the rest of the canopy & get proper lighting. The top feed system just plugs into the same water line that feeds the misters.
This guy is dead on! i bult a small box just to make sure, and i have to say is WOW!
botanicalB 1 year ago
@botanicalB Thank you. I glad to here you are having fun and getting good results with this exciting technology.
GrowFogBox 1 year ago
wow. i've seen more than my fair share of boxes... and this one takes the cake. very well done.
euphoniwhat 1 year ago
@euphoniwhat I appreciate the kind words. A lot of hard work and long hours went into perfecting the system.
GrowFogBox 1 year ago
great vid. unbelieveable awesome. genius. good job!
demas33 1 year ago
that looks like the top bollox...even better than oxypot !!
vivriano 1 year ago
absolutely fantastic video man! It brings a smile to my face knowing that there are those out there so organized, knowledgeable, and have taken the time to construct such turnkey systems. i wish you years of flourishing profits and products, and good tokes all around. thanks for spreading the knowledge!
phantasm48 1 year ago
Real nice please post more videos.
pidos847 1 year ago
HOW MANY HEADS DOES THE FOGGER HAVE?
ZINNPIXX 1 year ago
It's a single head, but the largest single head available. We also use a custom, teflon coated, agriculture specific disk in our foggers.
GrowFogBox 1 year ago
ok hold on, so ur saying "Pumps & foggers are 1 on 5 off or pumps constant & foggers 15 on 15 off depending on budget" Regardless of the lighting just constantly cycling thru out the whole day? What Does the pumps being constant have to do with a budget? Please explain this is just throwing me off big time...
asso420 1 year ago
it is a budget concern because an adjustable cycle timer, one that allows you to do 1 on 4 off or whatever you choose is about $150, where as a segment timer, 15 on, 15 off is about $10. The water cycle has nothing to do with the light cycle, it remains constant day & night.
GrowFogBox 1 year ago
Is the system 3-in-1 like you show, or is it just the fogponic setup? Can I get one cheaper to grow only 1 plant?
xwolbx 2 years ago 2
The system is a 3 way hybrid, Aero / fog / DWC. It's a little cheaper for a single site box, not much though, most of the cost is in the fogger & pumps. You would save about $10 for a single site vs. 6 site.
GrowFogBox 1 year ago
Poor Cheech and Chong..if only they'd have had the technology, we could've had more movies!
BarmaidAz 2 years ago
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deadrabbits19772 2 years ago
I wanna Buy one How much ? How much is a set up fee
masteroach 2 years ago
is this possible with SoG style growing? I was thinking of placing longer nets around the roots so they wouldnt tangle with each other.
Xengo100 2 years ago
Yes, the FogBox system is a type of SOG, you end up with a complete canopy. The plants will pretty much take whatever space you give them. I just finished up an SCOG grow, I'll up a video in the near future. As far as roots tangling together, I've grown 6 plants, 5 ft tall each in a FogBox XL (45 gallons, 2'x3') with no issues.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Hi, do u get any problems with the misters clogging,
and how reliable are those foggers. thanks..
peterblueeyes69 2 years ago
I use inline filters to prevent clogging. They are available for $20. The have a 200 micron screen, so they keep things nice and clean.
The foggers are agricultural grade with teflon coated disks. I have some that have been in use for over 18 months with a couple of disk changes.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Clogs can be avoided by using an in line filter or by simply enclosing your pump in a filter bag, pantie hoe or jelly strainer bag.
Foggers require you to change the disks every 90 days or so (replacements are $10). They are solid state, so no moving parts to break. I have had some in continuous operation for over a year.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
so much better after mute... aeroponics will be my next venture
Don612Juan 2 years ago
these tunes are nice. what is this?
supamldget 2 years ago
It's DJ Sasha
katiekettlety 2 years ago
@katiekettlety No it's not! Check out the Plump DJs I can't remember the actual track name.
kingpav 1 year ago
nice im impressed...
pyrothepenguin 2 years ago
Thank you. The FogBox system is fun and surprisingly easy to work with.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Do you donate clones to OMMP?
GmoneyUbz 2 years ago
Do the roots entwine?and if so,do they stunt each other?
DiabolicTut0r 2 years ago
No the different size FogBoxes provide more than enough room for the roots. The FogBox XL, usually used for flower, is approx. 2'x3' giving each plant about 1cubic foot of room and about 18" of vertical space
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
its amazing how little things like this can make you happy but people who have big ferraris are not happy
14CPO 2 years ago
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14CPO 2 years ago
deep water cultivation
dawhite20 2 years ago
hey do you guys make cloner lids or any kind of cloner?
mkeefe7 2 years ago
Yes, we have both
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
We offer 10,20,30 & 60 site cloners and a cloner lid for the FogBox system. Get roots faster than EZ clone or Turbo clone systems.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
What I find interesting is that you offer delivery and set up. It seems to me that a grower would be taking an awful big risk letting your company employees know where they live and will be growing.....especially if they are planning on growing without a medical card. In fact, the knowledge that anyone else knew about my grow system/location other than me would drive me crazy. Loose lips sink.....growers!!!
Alkoholic666 2 years ago
I guess you would have to meet me to understand. I am all about empowering people. When I first started, I wasted a lot of time and money learning things. I'm trying to save others that frustration. I also ship or meet at a neutral location for those who do not want assistance.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Do you have a website?
magicalhearingman 2 years ago
they dont look any better in any way compared to a straight ebb flow.
noooblover 2 years ago
But it takes less time with aero/fog hybrid & growth rates are better. I'll go head to head with any type of ebb & flow any day of the week.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
im gonna do dwc do i need the fog too
noooblover 2 years ago
wats dwc
milkyway689 2 years ago
Foggers are awesome they root clones faster and with more biomass than anything else you can use, they're not ideal for full scale feeding applications on a commercial level, however like this fine gentlemen's products lucky for us we have lots of options in hydroponic systems to supplement and there's always room for hybrid systems. My thinking is fog grows the root mass so extensively it forces the plant to demand nutrient levels fog can't deliver, therefore it drawfs. So using a second system
lioninetyrant 2 years ago
Should help you mitigate this issue, while at the same time getting your maximum yield potential from whatever plant you're growing. I personally would love to try flood and drain combined with ultrasonic fog.
The fact remains if this mans prices are fair, then this indeed is a good product based on the technologies and techniques he is employing.
I would suggest you're careful with the nutrients you use in this system though, you want something that fully dissolves aka non organic.
lioninetyrant 2 years ago
Thank you for your kind words and thought on the matter. It's always nice when someone with growing knowledge "gets it". As far as nutes go, you are correct, NPK mineral salts are the way to go. I have used Advanced Iguana organic before with pretty good results, but it makes for quite a chore when it's time to clean up the boxes & clogs up filters. I have had my best results with a quality 2 part mix like Advanced sensibloom & grow, House & Garden AquaFlakes or the GH grow/micro/bloom 3 part.
GrowFogBox 1 year ago
Supernatural is great for people new to hydro or anyone who doesn't want to deal with PH and doesn't mind using a clearing solution (clearex, final flush, super leach, ect) a few time per cycle. You need the clearing solution because this stuff is HEAVY and leaves mineral deposits.
GrowFogBox 1 year ago
@GrowFogBox hello im just wondering do u think they sell rockwool and hydroton rocks in my local gardening store in uk?
Playingcodstoned 1 year ago
@GrowFogBox hey man i ordered a fog box. just got it... and the directions are horrible. does the air pump and the fogger go directly in the water?
josephrobert098 1 year ago
What's better? Sprayers or misters? I've heard that the finer the water droplets the better. So misters? What size?
MRDYLF 2 years ago
It's semantics, sprayers and misters are the same thing, the water droplet size comes from the pressure you out through it from the water pump. More pressure = smaller droplet.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
BTW switch to General Hydroponics based net cups, I suggest this because they have bigger gaps and it looks like yours are strangling the roots, that isn't good, it slows their potential. They could be bigger and we all love bigger don't we kids. You're right pH balance shift is good, plants absorb different nutrients at different pH. For Hydro I'd want 5.5-5.8. Supernatural claims they're self balaacing pH wise if you use their line. Might be just the thing for this.
lioninetyrant 2 years ago
GH stuff is good, but I support the local guys, NWG. They are based about 10 miles from my home. Buy local, go global!
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Grow the reason you can't get through with just Fog is the insanely accelerated root growth with Fog, the surface area is increasing exponentially in turn so is the nutrient uptake. So you're right you need Aero and or DWC or both for redundancy. It isn't that the Fog doesn't work its that the plant wants so much Fog its impossible to satisfy it... if you could it should just keep growing exponentially.
lioninetyrant 2 years ago
Hey how can i get one of these?
Pettyh 2 years ago
o spoogaet
Pettyh 2 years ago
Call FogBox Systems @ 971-218-9876
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Music is on point and the fog DWC is official! Thumbs up
miguelito7182 2 years ago
based on your experience what would a typical finishing plant yield? would density change compared to soil?
Ianriz29 2 years ago
I am currently getting around 2oz per plant myself. It is my 2nd cycle and i use CO2. As far as density goes, I use humbolt Gravity with great results. Keep growing! FogBox Rox!
jussi6275 2 years ago
besides the box what else do I need to grow?
danb9290 2 years ago
Lights, water, nutes & plants or cuttings.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
you are killing the point of fog ponics by using hydroponics at the same time...
filo6942 2 years ago
I don't understand... I thought the point was to grow big, productive plants and have fun doing it. I don't see how I am killing that. Have you ever made it through a whole cycle with just fog? I would love to see it.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
If I'am looking to grow 4-6 plants, should I go FogBox which looks messy or should I go with a All in one Grow cabinet. I can get the cabinet with lights, nutes etc.... Even has a charcoal vent system. It runs $750. But the FB looks cheaper to make with better results. Give me a ballpark figure on a six plant fogbox setup rom scratch, minus clones of course. ty
FleckHead 2 years ago
how do you keep the heatfrom the fog machine down. and to the other commentator= white roots are from complete darkness not water
kalaoaflowerpower 2 years ago
The foggers are on a recycle timer, 1 on 4 off. White roots are indicative of many factors, not just absence of light.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Thank you for this video and promoting hydroponic technologies! 5 stars.
Does not having spray and fog on full time get whiter roots?
Hydronutes 2 years ago
I believe so, there is scientific data to back it up to. An aeroponic system is delivering optimum nute/oxygen levels at 1 minute on/5 minutes off.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
What fogger are you using and do you just float it in the main res? Also how long do you run each system daily....Fog,mist,bubbler? is it 24/7 with the fogger and bubbler?
clayski 2 years ago
Foggers are custom, They float in the DWC. Pumps & foggers are 1 on 5 off or pumps constant & foggers 15 on 15 off depending on budget. Air bubblers are 24/7
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Thanks everybody for all the support! Response has been amazing! I hope all you FogBoxers out there are growing strong. Remember, support is only a phone call away, feel free to use it, we want you to succeed.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Seems a bit complicated. What do you have to do to keep it going?
OMMP420 2 years ago
It is really easier than it seems, upkeeps is super easy, just change the water every two to four weeks & watch your PH (5.8 is ideal, but it's a good idea to let it drift between 5.5 & 6.3, plants uptake different nutes ant different PH)
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Everything you need to start growing. Pumps, tubing, connectors. All you need is nutrients, water and lights.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Yes, the disks are teflon coated.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
Do you top feed as well?
livnthadream25 2 years ago 4
It is an option. In the video, that grower was using different strains mixed together. We used extensions and top feed system so that they could be even with the rest of the canopy & get proper lighting. The top feed system just plugs into the same water line that feeds the misters.
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
The FogBox is $99 + S/H
The FogBox XL is $149 + S/H
Free delivery & setup in Portland metro area
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
How much are they?
jussi6275 2 years ago 2
Bad ass!
NWGrower 2 years ago 3
U must have to run a water chiller with all that stuff, I prefer Aeroponics, dont the foggers get clogged and stuff?
NateNoS 2 years ago
Nope, just a cycle timer running 1 on 5 off.
The foggers need to have the disk changed ($5) every 3 months or so.
The air pumps actually cools the water a bit
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
How so?
GrowFogBox 2 years ago
looks like a scam....
Grant923 2 years ago