This is SICKENING!!! A pox on this false teacher and on all false teachers who lead astray gullible young people (age and spritual maturity). They should prepare their necks for the millstone that will SOON be afixed to them.
This is part of the strong delusion that God says he's going to send in the end times
these people show that they do error from the scriptures...
the setting is out of order... let two or three speak? and let there be and interpreter?
speaking in tongues is a gift of the spirit given for the edification of the church (that the whole church) may be edified - the body of Christ not one single person alone. and then where is the order and decency of the church is supposed to have? this is diluted
Also to regardes of blowing it says it acts chp 2, that there was a mighty wind, that is what the blowing is symbolic the Ruach(Breath of God.I would beesech you to look at the spirit not the law of the letter because the spirit gives life but the letter killeth. God bless you and keep doing what you do.
You seem to really try and justify rediculous behavior. If you believe that this IS of God, why do we not see as many healings, casting out of demons, blind eyes opened? God is perfect yet pours out a useless gift upon millions and yet lets the blind people remain? I guess your God gives worthless gifts, mine does not.
and also Acts chp 2 i cant write the whole scripture becuase the word count will not permit me, But when the holy ghost came the people that Got filled acted like they were drunk as u see in this video, thats how they same to be acting, but peter told the pharises that, how can they be drunk in the 3rd hour of the day.
I have been drunk many times. I have never acted like this. Please explain. If speaking of bieng drunk, i would imagine a calming, sedating type of thing. This is more like crystal meth x 10. Justify it if you must.
Funny the same tongue speaking, powerhouse, full of the spirit of God people in a sunday worship service go out and live a life of sin and rebellion the rest of the week. I have a friend that lives a life of constant willfull sin and yet claims he speaks in tongues... People do not even simply have a basic understanding of what it means to be a Christian and yet claim "spiritual gifts".. Many are called, FEW are chosen.
@PatriotKS1975 IF, IF, IF THESE PEOPLE BELONGS TO JESUS, GET NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY DO, OR EVEN MORE... THAT THERE IS NEED OF JUSTIFICATION.... AGAIN... IF THEY BELONG TO THE LORD, HE WILL JUSTIFY ALL OF THEM, IF NOT... HE ALSO WILL ASK THEM.
@Boiman1992 No they were not. A man from South America started this "drunk spirit" act in the mid-90s and hint-hint -it spread through prosperity preachers into all of the Vineyard/Calvary movement and then into much of charismatic movement itself. In Actsch.2, they prophesied. They were saying amazing things about the past, present and future. They were telling people the Truth ... then haters tried to downplay. Peter set the record straight. It's about prophesy, not pretend-drunkness.
And God did unusual and extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, So that handkerchiefs or towels or aprons which had touched his skin were carried away and put upon the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.
Also
Acts 19:6
nd as Paul laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spoke in [foreign, unknown] tongues (languages) and prophesied.
I'm warning others of your charismania. the verse does NOT say it was unknown tongues. you are lying when you put that in there. tongues, as revealed by Acts 2, are KNOWN earthly languages
Scripture is crystal clear as to what was going on within that instance, yet the latest round of heretical teaching and physical action has these types of groups proclaiming that this is an excuse to stumble around and act drunk (in the spirit) as well as ramble incoherent and aped jargon.While I cannot judge his soul;currently,I believe that Sorger is simply relying on B grade showmanship,utilizing emotionalism
@filoIII I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR PERSONAL OPPINION ON FIRST CORINTIANS CHAPTER 14 WHERE I CAN READ THAT THERE ARE TONGUES WHICH WE CAN NOT UNDERSTAND AND GO DIRECT TO GOD. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THANKS.
@ecastropmx 1Cor 14:2-3 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.--Paul's correcting them. Why was tongues given? so the mysteries of God might be the better known to a greater number. not babel
The worst part is that many of these jokers have been led to believe that they have been anointed beyond the New Testament apostles; gaining some "super apostle" status in this age.
Deluded mindsets and terrible hermeneutics leads them to believe that they fall under the John 14:12 "greater works" status.
I have written most of these folks,yet they are generally above answering questions and rebuke.They ignore,delete and block anyone who dare question them.
@Boiman1992 That's true. And the gift was known to only Paul. Read the next 3 verses. Fake preachers.. tried to do the same.. and suffered the consequences. No time after Paul, was this cloth-gift known as a gift. The modern users are fakers and profiteers. No part of Joel's "Latter rain" prophesy does it speak about "holy hankerchiefs" being part of the scene. Wolves are here among the flock.. and they are making a fortune.
Hm, I'm kind of confused. Obviously, what is shown isn't all that Biblical. But, can't people react in different ways to the Holy Spirit? Only, with less extremities? Like being "slain in the spirit", for example? And weeping or laughter?
The "slain in the spirit" debate carries much baggage and differing opinions,and I doubt that a 500 character limit will allow me to elaborate in full,but I will add my Biblical understanding in a few different posts.
Aye, I know about that verse, though I'm not too sure if it applies in this case. Yes, peace and self-control...but, sometimes can't you can be so overwhelmed by God that you just fall to your knees/fall down in general or weep or even laugh?
@Sharkliz2813 True. God's spirit can overwhelm you like that. But so can Kundalini spirits .. and they are spreading throughout the nations. In the end times, many false spirits will arrive with signs and wonders. However, the "spreading of spirit-laughter" or "slaying" is completely unbiblical and that should be our sign for caution. The gifts of the spirit are functional.. and not "show gifts." The "show gifts" are a perversion of what Paul is talking about in 1cor ch12-14
@antioch7 BUT AS I UNDERSTAND... IF I AM NOT IN MISTAKE,,, THERE ARE FRUITS AND GIFTS.... WHO IS ENTITLED TO GIFTS? BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT WE ALL MUST BE LIVING SHOWING THE FRUITS IN OUR LIFE.
@Sharkliz2813 There is no biblical precedant. Atleast "tongue-speakers" can use 1 Cor. 12-14.. or Joel ch.3 to play this up. But "slain in the spirit" and "holy laughter" are completely unbiblical. I'm not saying that you or I.. may or may not have this reaction. But I am saying that if something like that exudes from a prosperity or.. modern Charismatic preacher.. then it's most likely a psychosomatic response or.. worse, a known Kundalini spirit creeping in among the flock
In a way,I am glad that aurora is challenging these things.
Before coming to the true Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit,I continually attacked orthodox Christianity from all sides,and it was through those challenges that I was finally delivered and humbled before Our Heavenly Father.
I pray that those lost within this tangled web be delivered,and brought into the true joy and peace that the Holy Spirit bestows on broken and obedient believers lives.
I would be very happy to accept a challenge as to what Jesus and the Holy Scriptures teach as truth, versus new revelation doctrine or extra biblical teaching.
As far as hate,that is a very strong accusation.This is disdain for unsound doctrine and lost sheep being fleeced by wolves.That is true love for The Gospel,Jesus Christ, and His truth.
Rebuke, and marking false teachers for others is not only loving,but scriptural on many counts.
MARK and AVOID "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the DOCTRINE which ye have learned; and avoid them " Rom. 16:17
REBUKE "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be SOUND IN THE FAITH " Titus 1:13
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them " Eph.5:11
.. withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly II Thess.3:6
@antioch7 I THINK WE MUST DO A VERY GOOD EFFORT NOT TO STEP ONLY ONE SIDE TO POINT OUT THE ONES WE FEEL OR THINK ARE CAUSING DIVISIONS, THERE IS ALSO THE ONES WHO WILL POINT OUT THE OTHER SIDE, I MEAN AGAINST YOU. CAN THE HOLY SPIRIT BRING SUCH MANIFESTATIONS? I THINK YES, HE IS THE POWER OF GOD, HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS... JEWS COULD NOT STAND BEFORE THE SINAI BUT WE HAVE BEEN MADE NEAR THE NEW JERUSALEN,,, AND IN BOTH CASES THERE WAS AND IS THE LORD.
Those last two commentaries aside,please issue the actual queries and conditions of this challenge.
I believe that when it comes to God's truth, good scriptural hermeneutics and cogent apologetics will triumph over subjective emotionalism.
This is not an exercise of religiosity,this is commanded in God's Word.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16
This is SICKENING!!! A pox on this false teacher and on all false teachers who lead astray gullible young people (age and spritual maturity). They should prepare their necks for the millstone that will SOON be afixed to them.
CMO5569 1 year ago
This is not Christian.
talitha00cumi 1 year ago
This is part of the strong delusion that God says he's going to send in the end times
these people show that they do error from the scriptures...
the setting is out of order... let two or three speak? and let there be and interpreter?
speaking in tongues is a gift of the spirit given for the edification of the church (that the whole church) may be edified - the body of Christ not one single person alone. and then where is the order and decency of the church is supposed to have? this is diluted
BCRIBB4real 1 year ago
/watch?v=fFH0khjgA0U
TheHonestTheist 2 years ago
all DEMONS
seawitch949 3 years ago
Also to regardes of blowing it says it acts chp 2, that there was a mighty wind, that is what the blowing is symbolic the Ruach(Breath of God.I would beesech you to look at the spirit not the law of the letter because the spirit gives life but the letter killeth. God bless you and keep doing what you do.
Boiman1992 3 years ago
You seem to really try and justify rediculous behavior. If you believe that this IS of God, why do we not see as many healings, casting out of demons, blind eyes opened? God is perfect yet pours out a useless gift upon millions and yet lets the blind people remain? I guess your God gives worthless gifts, mine does not.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago
@Boiman1992 The spirit is an indwelling. That is EXACTLY what it means. It's not a fake mouth blowing Benny Hinn. Tell the truth.
KeyboardPacifist 1 year ago
and also Acts chp 2 i cant write the whole scripture becuase the word count will not permit me, But when the holy ghost came the people that Got filled acted like they were drunk as u see in this video, thats how they same to be acting, but peter told the pharises that, how can they be drunk in the 3rd hour of the day.
Boiman1992 3 years ago
I have been drunk many times. I have never acted like this. Please explain. If speaking of bieng drunk, i would imagine a calming, sedating type of thing. This is more like crystal meth x 10. Justify it if you must.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago
Thanks for adding additional responses.
The delusion is a strong one.
antioch7 3 years ago
Funny the same tongue speaking, powerhouse, full of the spirit of God people in a sunday worship service go out and live a life of sin and rebellion the rest of the week. I have a friend that lives a life of constant willfull sin and yet claims he speaks in tongues... People do not even simply have a basic understanding of what it means to be a Christian and yet claim "spiritual gifts".. Many are called, FEW are chosen.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago
@PatriotKS1975 IF, IF, IF THESE PEOPLE BELONGS TO JESUS, GET NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY DO, OR EVEN MORE... THAT THERE IS NEED OF JUSTIFICATION.... AGAIN... IF THEY BELONG TO THE LORD, HE WILL JUSTIFY ALL OF THEM, IF NOT... HE ALSO WILL ASK THEM.
ecastropmx 1 year ago
@Boiman1992 No they were not. A man from South America started this "drunk spirit" act in the mid-90s and hint-hint -it spread through prosperity preachers into all of the Vineyard/Calvary movement and then into much of charismatic movement itself. In Actsch.2, they prophesied. They were saying amazing things about the past, present and future. They were telling people the Truth ... then haters tried to downplay. Peter set the record straight. It's about prophesy, not pretend-drunkness.
KeyboardPacifist 1 year ago
Acts 19:11-12
And God did unusual and extraordinary miracles by the hands of Paul, So that handkerchiefs or towels or aprons which had touched his skin were carried away and put upon the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.
Also
Acts 19:6
nd as Paul laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them; and they spoke in [foreign, unknown] tongues (languages) and prophesied.
Boiman1992 3 years ago
I'm warning others of your charismania. the verse does NOT say it was unknown tongues. you are lying when you put that in there. tongues, as revealed by Acts 2, are KNOWN earthly languages
filoIII 3 years ago
Exactly.
Scripture is crystal clear as to what was going on within that instance, yet the latest round of heretical teaching and physical action has these types of groups proclaiming that this is an excuse to stumble around and act drunk (in the spirit) as well as ramble incoherent and aped jargon.While I cannot judge his soul;currently,I believe that Sorger is simply relying on B grade showmanship,utilizing emotionalism
to bring on subjective religious experience.
antioch7 3 years ago
@filoIII I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR PERSONAL OPPINION ON FIRST CORINTIANS CHAPTER 14 WHERE I CAN READ THAT THERE ARE TONGUES WHICH WE CAN NOT UNDERSTAND AND GO DIRECT TO GOD. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. THANKS.
ecastropmx 1 year ago
@ecastropmx 1Cor 14:2-3 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.--Paul's correcting them. Why was tongues given? so the mysteries of God might be the better known to a greater number. not babel
filoIII 1 year ago
You compare these people to paul? Are you serious? Wow.
PatriotKS1975 3 years ago
The worst part is that many of these jokers have been led to believe that they have been anointed beyond the New Testament apostles; gaining some "super apostle" status in this age.
Deluded mindsets and terrible hermeneutics leads them to believe that they fall under the John 14:12 "greater works" status.
I have written most of these folks,yet they are generally above answering questions and rebuke.They ignore,delete and block anyone who dare question them.
Blinded terribly.
antioch7 3 years ago
@Boiman1992 That's true. And the gift was known to only Paul. Read the next 3 verses. Fake preachers.. tried to do the same.. and suffered the consequences. No time after Paul, was this cloth-gift known as a gift. The modern users are fakers and profiteers. No part of Joel's "Latter rain" prophesy does it speak about "holy hankerchiefs" being part of the scene. Wolves are here among the flock.. and they are making a fortune.
KeyboardPacifist 1 year ago
Hm, I'm kind of confused. Obviously, what is shown isn't all that Biblical. But, can't people react in different ways to the Holy Spirit? Only, with less extremities? Like being "slain in the spirit", for example? And weeping or laughter?
Sharkliz2813 3 years ago
All great questions Sharkliz2813,
The first thing that we should focus on with The Holy Spirit are the fruits:
GALATIANS 5:22-23
The "slain in the spirit" debate carries much baggage and differing opinions,and I doubt that a 500 character limit will allow me to elaborate in full,but I will add my Biblical understanding in a few different posts.
Perhaps a video response should be in order...
antioch7 3 years ago
Aye, I know about that verse, though I'm not too sure if it applies in this case. Yes, peace and self-control...but, sometimes can't you can be so overwhelmed by God that you just fall to your knees/fall down in general or weep or even laugh?
Sharkliz2813 3 years ago
@Sharkliz2813 True. God's spirit can overwhelm you like that. But so can Kundalini spirits .. and they are spreading throughout the nations. In the end times, many false spirits will arrive with signs and wonders. However, the "spreading of spirit-laughter" or "slaying" is completely unbiblical and that should be our sign for caution. The gifts of the spirit are functional.. and not "show gifts." The "show gifts" are a perversion of what Paul is talking about in 1cor ch12-14
KeyboardPacifist 1 year ago
@antioch7 BUT AS I UNDERSTAND... IF I AM NOT IN MISTAKE,,, THERE ARE FRUITS AND GIFTS.... WHO IS ENTITLED TO GIFTS? BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOLD ME THAT WE ALL MUST BE LIVING SHOWING THE FRUITS IN OUR LIFE.
ecastropmx 1 year ago
@Sharkliz2813 There is no biblical precedant. Atleast "tongue-speakers" can use 1 Cor. 12-14.. or Joel ch.3 to play this up. But "slain in the spirit" and "holy laughter" are completely unbiblical. I'm not saying that you or I.. may or may not have this reaction. But I am saying that if something like that exudes from a prosperity or.. modern Charismatic preacher.. then it's most likely a psychosomatic response or.. worse, a known Kundalini spirit creeping in among the flock
KeyboardPacifist 1 year ago
VERY GOOD VIDEO BY THE WAY antioch7
JesusCTK 3 years ago 2
Thanks very much.
More to come in the next few days.
antioch7 3 years ago
I can think of a few people I'd like to "suddenly lay hands on" for entirely different reasons lol...but the Lord restrains me! :P
Thank you Holy Ghost for your fire!
hitthejesusbong 3 years ago
Be nice....
antioch7 3 years ago
Much thanks,and a big amen crimson.
In a way,I am glad that aurora is challenging these things.
Before coming to the true Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit,I continually attacked orthodox Christianity from all sides,and it was through those challenges that I was finally delivered and humbled before Our Heavenly Father.
I pray that those lost within this tangled web be delivered,and brought into the true joy and peace that the Holy Spirit bestows on broken and obedient believers lives.
antioch7 3 years ago
Public challenge? HATE? Jesus'truth?
I would be very happy to accept a challenge as to what Jesus and the Holy Scriptures teach as truth, versus new revelation doctrine or extra biblical teaching.
As far as hate,that is a very strong accusation.This is disdain for unsound doctrine and lost sheep being fleeced by wolves.That is true love for The Gospel,Jesus Christ, and His truth.
Rebuke, and marking false teachers for others is not only loving,but scriptural on many counts.
antioch7 3 years ago
I challenge you antioch, instead of sitting here making all these hate videos to ask JESUS what the truth is....
aurorainthedesert 3 years ago
I will believe the Holy Spirit in these matters:
MARK and AVOID "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the DOCTRINE which ye have learned; and avoid them " Rom. 16:17
REBUKE "Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be SOUND IN THE FAITH " Titus 1:13
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them " Eph.5:11
.. withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly II Thess.3:6
antioch7 3 years ago
@antioch7 I THINK WE MUST DO A VERY GOOD EFFORT NOT TO STEP ONLY ONE SIDE TO POINT OUT THE ONES WE FEEL OR THINK ARE CAUSING DIVISIONS, THERE IS ALSO THE ONES WHO WILL POINT OUT THE OTHER SIDE, I MEAN AGAINST YOU. CAN THE HOLY SPIRIT BRING SUCH MANIFESTATIONS? I THINK YES, HE IS THE POWER OF GOD, HE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS... JEWS COULD NOT STAND BEFORE THE SINAI BUT WE HAVE BEEN MADE NEAR THE NEW JERUSALEN,,, AND IN BOTH CASES THERE WAS AND IS THE LORD.
ecastropmx 1 year ago
Those last two commentaries aside,please issue the actual queries and conditions of this challenge.
I believe that when it comes to God's truth, good scriptural hermeneutics and cogent apologetics will triumph over subjective emotionalism.
This is not an exercise of religiosity,this is commanded in God's Word.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 3:16
Go for it.....
antioch7 3 years ago