Polland made a cert to prove how easy it would be and snopes and the whitehouse both linked to his forgery.
w w w . w n d . c o m / 2 0 1 1 / 0 8 / 3 3 1 5 2 5 /
Remove the spaces and you will see the screen shots where snopes links to his photobucket. If he had a real cert obvously they would scan and link it themselves but they didn't they linked to a fake ass one made by polland. what an obummer.
DON'T ACT SHOCKED PEOPLE, YOU'RE JUST SLOW TO HEAR ABOUT IT DO TO ZIONIST BRAINWASHING YOUR ENTIRE LIVES. MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT AMERICAS CONGRESS AND PRES SOLD THE PEOPLE INTO DEBT SLAVERY LONG AGO....THEY INFILTRATED IDIOTS INTO THE MASONS AND FILLED THEIR EGOS FULL, MADE THEM THINK THEIR BROTHERHOOD LOYALTY WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN FAMILY TOWN AND THEIR WEALTH FOR A BETTER REASON, YOU KNOW END JUSTIFIES MEANS. CLASSIC BRAINWASHING 101. WHAT CAN WE SAY, WE WERE SOLD OUT. NOTHING MORE TO SAY
There is no doubt its a forgery. Its not a scanned copy of an original, but instead an obvious computer manipulated fake. There is so much evidence that its a fake, that it blows the mind. Obama's going to jail for forgery which is a crminal felony offense.
@AskHack Who would have the power to pull something like this off - and don't insult my intelligence by saying that it was the Chicago Mob or because he was black. The amount of people you would have to influence is to much for one group to handle. If it was because he is the first black president then why are there so many blacks in prison today? I don't buy the birther excuses and cannot see how they could even consider idiotic excuses like the ones I posted.
@ChicagoJoe57 what do you mean the forgery or attempted forgery? Honestly it was probably done on purpose to divide people like racism is funded by the govt etc. to keep us busy as they sell off what is left of US. For me the metadata was a red flag that something was going on so I started following the issue. After Berg brought suit against Obama, and he and Biden met with the supreme court justices days b4 the election, and then the case gets sealed? It's like whoa.. wtf is going on...
There really are a lot of issues here. Was or is he a dual or British citizen? Did his Indonesian stepfather adopt him and make him an Indonesian citizen as his school records and his fathers divorce records indicate (2 children)? Did both parents need to be US citizens and if not was there a minimum age/stay by the US parent before a certain age? Does he have a Connecticut SS # or not?
@AskHack If there was going to be a smoking gun - it would have started with the My Guy Club going back to Lane Tech High School - the same school where Blago went. Lane Tech - it is rumored - produced some of the best forgers in the country. I was told that two of the best live out west and never return to Chicago because they were forging money back in the 70s and not paying street tax to the Outfit.
@ChicagoJoe57 Haha I don't think you are too far off. Some of the blago tapes have gone "missing" they are alledged to contain conversataions between blago and Emmanuel. I said it from the beginning no one could have offered "candidate #5" the senate position in exchange for a cabinet position. I'm sorry but no one picks the cabinet besides the prez and he did have knowledge of that whole transaction IMO. Why do you think blago is soo cocky about it.
Whether he was *eligible* to be a dual British/US citizen is irrelevant, since he has only ever claimed US citizenship. The Constitution is silent on such matters.
Whether his step father adopted him or not is of no consequence. It wouldn't affect his nationality in any case. Even if his stepfather had gotten him naturalized as an Indonesian citizen, he could elect to retain US citizenship on attaining his age of majority.
@AskHack To add - there is no requirement for both parents to be US citizens, certainly not for birthright citizenship and by all accounts, not for the natural born requirement of the Presidential eligibility clause.
Since the parent didn't need to be a US citizen, how long they resided in the US is also of no consequence.
I guess it helps if you actually look instead of tossing out meaningless conjecture.
Hey stupid... This is not a "debate." This is called, "Hey everyone, this one is the stupest video ever." Again, what's with you and this shoebox? Were you hit by one when you were a kid? Is that why you are still one?
after all the videos uploaded to youtube which proves Obama's long form birth certificate is an obvious forgery, you still have yet to accept that fact? Did you notice the registration number in the upper right hand corner is higher than twins who were born the next day in Hawaii? Did you notice the Bs have the exact same pixels which obviously means they were copy and pasted? My goodness, there is so much obvious evidence that its been manipulated,...wake up !!!!
@HolyBeThyName With all the videos showing tow character supposed kerning in a whole document of old impact printing - I have yet to see a good video that convinces me otherwise. The bottomline: if Obama gets called and investigated then I will believe it. And please do not insult my intelligence and say that he will get away with it because he is black and the Chicago Mob is backing him.
@americaisbacktrump Thanks for not namecalling. I consider that a sign of intelligence when people can disagree and still debate an issue. When I see people namecalling on the internet when they are not facing that person - I consider it a sign of weakness - especially if the are from a foreign country. shockofChrist's video was not convincing enough. And since he cannot debate without coawrdly namecalling over the internet - I consider the source.
@americaisbacktrump If there were any facts in the accusation then Obama would be investigated as we speak. And don't insult everyone's intelligence and use the fact that he is black and the Chicago Mob as an excuse toi why he is never prosecuted.
@ChicagoJoe57 Your video did not prove anything as typewriters had some degree of spacing and I have worked with old prints that look just like Obama's birth certificate. You like to namecall over the internet like the coward you are. It doesn't bother anyone because no one can understand your unAmerican accent - so no loss.
@ChicagoJoe57 It is of my opinion that it curled on the glass at the edges because it wasn't weighted down enough when placed on the copier. I have experienced that many times when making photocopies of old documents.
@ShockOfChrist I like the way you tried to deepen your voice so you did not sound like the wimp on that phone in talkshow. Nice job, but your namecalling showed what a coward you really are.
From shockofGod: listen joe, before you crap your ignorance more, explain why there's the page curl within the page itself? if your argument is the kerning is caused by the perspective, explain to me about the page curl. how the heck could any page curl within the middle of the document? that page curl is also in perspective, no? explain to me pretty please with a freaking cherry on top.
@ChicagoJoe57 I'd like to hear that Joe. How did the curl come about in the middle of the page? You have a document with the green patterned background, yet you have also perfectly matching green pattern background with the curl. You can not make this unless you have two separate green pattern background perfectly matching each other and then scanned. Are you this stupidly blind or doing this just for the heck of it? I can only think the latter, meaning you are a troll, a stupid one at that. Lol
@ExpeIIedExposed "Are you this stupidly blind or doing this just for the heck of it? I can only think the latter, meaning you are a troll, a stupid one at that. Lol" Yes, I am working for Obama, and if you believe that is possible who is the stupid one? Shoving a document into the corner can sometimes cause it to bend a little so when the light hits it it curls. And by the way, Cannon copiers will change colors on documents.
@ChicagoJoe57 Yes, Cannons will, and that is why as a copy expert they expect you to be able to calibrate and correct colors on the copy machines. By the way, any punk can namecall on the internet so by me not returing the favor - it is because I am to much of a real fighter to insult myself. I figure that whoever copied the document laid a larger paper under the bc so that the edges would not be corrupted by copying the bc. I have to assume this until proven otherwise.
Which part did the "light" hit? Read my question carefully. Do you see the curl? Why is it in the middle of the page? A page curl means it is a separate document. You have a page curl within the page itself, meaning the text background containing the curl is separate entity compared to the background that holds the document itself. You probably still don't get it, do you? Why don't you actually do a video and actually scan to recreate this phenomenon.
@ExpeIIedExposed Anyone with half a brain can see that the background does not line up - sides verses birth certificate - so one must assume that the copier laid it on a 8 by 11 paper matching the original bc. I am not from Brighton Beach where you can sell someone anything - so I don't automatically think that someone was scamming. There were two pieces of paper used when copying this bc to keep the assure the edges were not destroyed. It was not a great copy job as we can see.
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After all the name calling criticisms etc.
Polland made a cert to prove how easy it would be and snopes and the whitehouse both linked to his forgery.
w w w . w n d . c o m / 2 0 1 1 / 0 8 / 3 3 1 5 2 5 /
Remove the spaces and you will see the screen shots where snopes links to his photobucket. If he had a real cert obvously they would scan and link it themselves but they didn't they linked to a fake ass one made by polland. what an obummer.
AskHack 1 month ago
DON'T ACT SHOCKED PEOPLE, YOU'RE JUST SLOW TO HEAR ABOUT IT DO TO ZIONIST BRAINWASHING YOUR ENTIRE LIVES. MOST PEOPLE KNOW THAT AMERICAS CONGRESS AND PRES SOLD THE PEOPLE INTO DEBT SLAVERY LONG AGO....THEY INFILTRATED IDIOTS INTO THE MASONS AND FILLED THEIR EGOS FULL, MADE THEM THINK THEIR BROTHERHOOD LOYALTY WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN FAMILY TOWN AND THEIR WEALTH FOR A BETTER REASON, YOU KNOW END JUSTIFIES MEANS. CLASSIC BRAINWASHING 101. WHAT CAN WE SAY, WE WERE SOLD OUT. NOTHING MORE TO SAY
sssssjjjj1 6 months ago
There is no doubt its a forgery. Its not a scanned copy of an original, but instead an obvious computer manipulated fake. There is so much evidence that its a fake, that it blows the mind. Obama's going to jail for forgery which is a crminal felony offense.
HolyBeThyName 9 months ago
@HolyBeThyName
There's no doubt birthers are morons. There's zero evidence it's fake. Idiots putting inexpert video analysis on youtube doesn't count as "evidence."
Mystylplx 7 months ago
I suppose if perlman a jewish guy can make al qaeda videos, well then perchance anything is possible, even a kerning typewriter.
Here you want something to debate, how about the forensic metadata in the origional COLB... tinyurl d0t c0m slash forensicproof.
So many people called them out on that meta data they were a lil more careful this time to keep it clean.
Guess they missed the obvious
Why was the supreme court case against Obama sealed if this is such a "non" issue?
AskHack 9 months ago
@AskHack Who would have the power to pull something like this off - and don't insult my intelligence by saying that it was the Chicago Mob or because he was black. The amount of people you would have to influence is to much for one group to handle. If it was because he is the first black president then why are there so many blacks in prison today? I don't buy the birther excuses and cannot see how they could even consider idiotic excuses like the ones I posted.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 what do you mean the forgery or attempted forgery? Honestly it was probably done on purpose to divide people like racism is funded by the govt etc. to keep us busy as they sell off what is left of US. For me the metadata was a red flag that something was going on so I started following the issue. After Berg brought suit against Obama, and he and Biden met with the supreme court justices days b4 the election, and then the case gets sealed? It's like whoa.. wtf is going on...
AskHack 9 months ago
There really are a lot of issues here. Was or is he a dual or British citizen? Did his Indonesian stepfather adopt him and make him an Indonesian citizen as his school records and his fathers divorce records indicate (2 children)? Did both parents need to be US citizens and if not was there a minimum age/stay by the US parent before a certain age? Does he have a Connecticut SS # or not?
My fav.
If this was true Hillary would have squashed him?
NOPE THEY ARE ALL CFR members..
AskHack 9 months ago
@AskHack If there was going to be a smoking gun - it would have started with the My Guy Club going back to Lane Tech High School - the same school where Blago went. Lane Tech - it is rumored - produced some of the best forgers in the country. I was told that two of the best live out west and never return to Chicago because they were forging money back in the 70s and not paying street tax to the Outfit.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 Haha I don't think you are too far off. Some of the blago tapes have gone "missing" they are alledged to contain conversataions between blago and Emmanuel. I said it from the beginning no one could have offered "candidate #5" the senate position in exchange for a cabinet position. I'm sorry but no one picks the cabinet besides the prez and he did have knowledge of that whole transaction IMO. Why do you think blago is soo cocky about it.
AskHack 9 months ago
@AskHack No the answers are quite simple.
Whether he was *eligible* to be a dual British/US citizen is irrelevant, since he has only ever claimed US citizenship. The Constitution is silent on such matters.
Whether his step father adopted him or not is of no consequence. It wouldn't affect his nationality in any case. Even if his stepfather had gotten him naturalized as an Indonesian citizen, he could elect to retain US citizenship on attaining his age of majority.
stevefurr 1 month ago
@AskHack To add - there is no requirement for both parents to be US citizens, certainly not for birthright citizenship and by all accounts, not for the natural born requirement of the Presidential eligibility clause.
Since the parent didn't need to be a US citizen, how long they resided in the US is also of no consequence.
I guess it helps if you actually look instead of tossing out meaningless conjecture.
stevefurr 1 month ago
This vid is so stupid that I am crying my eyeballs out. What's with you and this shoebox anyway?
ExpeIIedExposed 9 months ago
@ExpeIIedExposed If you cannot debate - present some opinion without namecalling - go home and get your shinebox. That is what it is all about.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 "debate"
Hey stupid... This is not a "debate." This is called, "Hey everyone, this one is the stupest video ever." Again, what's with you and this shoebox? Were you hit by one when you were a kid? Is that why you are still one?
ExpeIIedExposed 9 months ago
@ExpeIIedExposed I heard better ones than this in 6th grade. Where did you hear this one - walking around Brighton Beach?
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 Lol. 6th grade? Not even a 6 year old.
ExpeIIedExposed 9 months ago
after all the videos uploaded to youtube which proves Obama's long form birth certificate is an obvious forgery, you still have yet to accept that fact? Did you notice the registration number in the upper right hand corner is higher than twins who were born the next day in Hawaii? Did you notice the Bs have the exact same pixels which obviously means they were copy and pasted? My goodness, there is so much obvious evidence that its been manipulated,...wake up !!!!
HolyBeThyName 9 months ago
@HolyBeThyName With all the videos showing tow character supposed kerning in a whole document of old impact printing - I have yet to see a good video that convinces me otherwise. The bottomline: if Obama gets called and investigated then I will believe it. And please do not insult my intelligence and say that he will get away with it because he is black and the Chicago Mob is backing him.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
Chicago Joe you are obviously shiling fo Obama here. Watch shockofchrists videos and see if you can explain them.
americaisbacktrump 9 months ago
@americaisbacktrump Thanks for not namecalling. I consider that a sign of intelligence when people can disagree and still debate an issue. When I see people namecalling on the internet when they are not facing that person - I consider it a sign of weakness - especially if the are from a foreign country. shockofChrist's video was not convincing enough. And since he cannot debate without coawrdly namecalling over the internet - I consider the source.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 The intellgence is in the facts which you dont wish to see.
americaisbacktrump 9 months ago
@americaisbacktrump If there were any facts in the accusation then Obama would be investigated as we speak. And don't insult everyone's intelligence and use the fact that he is black and the Chicago Mob as an excuse toi why he is never prosecuted.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
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@ChicagoJoe57 I'm talking about the facts of the birth certificate forgery which you are ignoring.
americaisbacktrump 9 months ago
your right the kerning is this document is not professional; otherwise it would be more consistent.
danceace11 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 Your video did not prove anything as typewriters had some degree of spacing and I have worked with old prints that look just like Obama's birth certificate. You like to namecall over the internet like the coward you are. It doesn't bother anyone because no one can understand your unAmerican accent - so no loss.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 And an idiot as well. Whatever it is, get off it.
420messenger 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 It's not him dummy. why are you keep mixing him up with shockofgod? He's ShockofChrist. You are indeed irrelevant.
420messenger 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 o btw, try to be relevant next time. it's been quite irrelevant so far as your life has been. ;) bye.
ShockOfChrist 9 months ago
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@ChicagoJoe57 answer. what's your iq?
ShockOfChrist 9 months ago
From shcokofGod: if you were to take in the perspective, why don't cha tell me about the page curl within the page itself? hmm?
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 It is of my opinion that it curled on the glass at the edges because it wasn't weighted down enough when placed on the copier. I have experienced that many times when making photocopies of old documents.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 i am not talking about the curl itself. i am talking about the very location of the curl. man... what's your iq?
ShockOfChrist 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 here... let me spoon feed you. /watch?v=JvxGZM7yXdU
ShockOfChrist 9 months ago
@ShockOfChrist I like the way you tried to deepen your voice so you did not sound like the wimp on that phone in talkshow. Nice job, but your namecalling showed what a coward you really are.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 how irrelevant... btw... what's your iq?
ShockOfChrist 9 months ago
From shockofGod: listen joe, before you crap your ignorance more, explain why there's the page curl within the page itself? if your argument is the kerning is caused by the perspective, explain to me about the page curl. how the heck could any page curl within the middle of the document? that page curl is also in perspective, no? explain to me pretty please with a freaking cherry on top.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 I'd like to hear that Joe. How did the curl come about in the middle of the page? You have a document with the green patterned background, yet you have also perfectly matching green pattern background with the curl. You can not make this unless you have two separate green pattern background perfectly matching each other and then scanned. Are you this stupidly blind or doing this just for the heck of it? I can only think the latter, meaning you are a troll, a stupid one at that. Lol
ExpeIIedExposed 9 months ago
@ExpeIIedExposed "Are you this stupidly blind or doing this just for the heck of it? I can only think the latter, meaning you are a troll, a stupid one at that. Lol" Yes, I am working for Obama, and if you believe that is possible who is the stupid one? Shoving a document into the corner can sometimes cause it to bend a little so when the light hits it it curls. And by the way, Cannon copiers will change colors on documents.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 Yes, Cannons will, and that is why as a copy expert they expect you to be able to calibrate and correct colors on the copy machines. By the way, any punk can namecall on the internet so by me not returing the favor - it is because I am to much of a real fighter to insult myself. I figure that whoever copied the document laid a larger paper under the bc so that the edges would not be corrupted by copying the bc. I have to assume this until proven otherwise.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 "the light hits it it curls"
Which part did the "light" hit? Read my question carefully. Do you see the curl? Why is it in the middle of the page? A page curl means it is a separate document. You have a page curl within the page itself, meaning the text background containing the curl is separate entity compared to the background that holds the document itself. You probably still don't get it, do you? Why don't you actually do a video and actually scan to recreate this phenomenon.
ExpeIIedExposed 9 months ago
@ExpeIIedExposed Anyone with half a brain can see that the background does not line up - sides verses birth certificate - so one must assume that the copier laid it on a 8 by 11 paper matching the original bc. I am not from Brighton Beach where you can sell someone anything - so I don't automatically think that someone was scamming. There were two pieces of paper used when copying this bc to keep the assure the edges were not destroyed. It was not a great copy job as we can see.
ChicagoJoe57 9 months ago
@ChicagoJoe57 Hey stupid. Zoom in and see how they wonderfully match up.
ExpeIIedExposed 9 months ago