It seems a bit absurd to suggest that the US doesn't have one of the highest performing military in the world. I'm not trying to defend the US, it's just a fact really. Their massively bloated and overfunded military is maintained at the expense of the people. The US is ruled by billionaires and multinational corporations these days. It's high time they ditched them, the military, and capitalism and embraced a more equitable system. Socialism is basically a curse word there, sadly.
the only good communist leader i know is lenin, trotsky and mao, the rest ruled their country like it's like a cage like stalin killed a lot and kim jong il
@logerbad19 agree.. some of them are not communist, they rise to power in the name of communist but they dont have the heart of a true communist... they are liar......
@logerbad19 absolutely agree... but i feel i must remind you, that "treating people like slave" and "people is in a suffering moment" is different...
i mean.. like this....
i dislike it when commentators claim Chairman Mao a tyrant like kim jong il.... Mao didnt intentionally killed his people.. starvation did.... even chairman himself only eat plain rice with a piece of chilly each meal....
@LinWeiHuang iagree, my chinese friend said mao wanted china to be like the soviet union and the people got mad about it,, he just wanted china to be a proporous nation
Basically, there is nothing wrong to seek for communism which is described as a harmony and equal world. Maybe there is a day for that world. But it is too early for the current world to practice in that way.
Stalin=GENOCIDAL dictator, even the CPSU denounced his sick reign of terror. And as if it wasn't bad enough for him to bring his own country to ruin, he had to shove communism down the throats of countries that wanted nothing to do with it. He was the most brazen imperialist in modern history. What right did he have to install Kim Il Sung? No one in Korea had even heard of him before 1945, but as soon as the Red army shows up suddenly he's in charge. WTF?
The left needs to return bigger, harder and more totalitarian than ever before. The bourgeoisie and the Anglo-American global capitalist conspiracy have grown to such a demonic extent that we will need to launch a red terror on a scale to make Stalin's purges look like a hippy love in.
Forward comrades, let us destroy this capitalist serpent!
Stalin was a monster who killed enough people to make Hitler look like a piker. Lenin wished he had the means to be a violent leader. How do I know when any Bush or Palin is lying? His/her mouth is open. None of which has anything to do with "The Internatioonale" or "Solidarity Forever," which sing of the best we could be, not how we are--monsters.
No he didn't. His government aided Spain, liberated Europe, set up socialist countries in Eastern Europe, assisted the Chinese and Korean communists, pushed for the democratization of Finland, supported European socialist parties, inspired tons of people by industrializing a country in a generation, built a viable socialist economy in the USSR, and supported black liberation in the US. But there should have been proper democracy, that's the lesson learned.
Hahahah, exactly, you are right thats what Stalin did. He:
- set up socialist shithoole in the East of Europe and sent tanks any time when people stood up for freedom
- assisted the Chinese iand Korean communists in building a communist concentration camp. Feel free to go North Korea to get a grip of what Stalinism is all about
- failed miserably any time he tried to industrialize the country
Stalin IMPOSED communism on Korea, no one had even heard of Kim Il Sung before 1945 but when the Red army "liberated" asia he suddenly had absolute power. the Korean "Workers' party" had NO popular support, it never had more than a few hundred members and most of them spent the Japanese occupation safely in Russia, and then tried to claim credit for winning a war they had even't fought in. N. Korea is communist only because of SOVIET IMPERIALISM
Stalin didn't "liberate" eastern europe, he just replaced one hell (fascism) with another (communism.) And the Communist parties in Poland and E. Germany were NEVER ELECTED, they were forced on the indigenous population by the Soviet army. Mao was right about one thing, Communist power flows only from the barrel of a gun.
Stalin replaced that with a a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate? No?
@lailai5566 No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitome of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitome of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
i am sick and tired of these 'communist' idiots who idolize stalin, mao, kim il sung and the like.
they did not want communism for the people, they wanted to rule over the people. how can you support an evil man who kills his own people, and his own comrades, and call yourself a die-hard communist?
@kashga11 They reflect how communism can be if ordinary people give up their rights and democracy. But they did not prove communism is wrong or capitalism is right - actually a better society can be built through integrating communism and real democracy - it will be fair, equal and free. The bottom line is:
1. We never believe a society is good enough not to be improved.
2. We never believe improving the society should sacrifice the human rights we already have.
@kashga11 Mao brought an end to western world milking off china, Albania prospered under communist rule, developing education and electricity. Stalin fed a nation. Communism does not mean Stalin, or Kim Il Sung. Communism is an idea. So please.
CAPITALISM doesn't kill people..Capitalism is just a lawless work it out between parties system..Every form of system has had some kind of violent history you can't say Captialism is the enemy it's just not fair. Mao killed 50 million people..And did you forget about the Red Terror?
Beautifull anthem, but why Stalin. All the other where good leaders, but Stalin kills everybody also communism itself, like Trotsky. So tell me why Stalin and not Trotsky.
Do never follow somebody just because it has a political name who you like
Workers of the world, hear me. Do not listen to the false faces of Soscialism that are Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. A communist regime is not one of an elitist group having a dictatorship, but a government of the people, run by the people. Carl Marx only used the words Dictatorship of the Proletariate 3 times, and it was only ment to be a temperary rule before a democratic soscialist sosciety could be established. Also, terror is a capitalistic thing too. We shal unite against the tyrany and evil!
@CylonAndrew. Dictatorship of the Proletariate means dictatorship BY the proletariat, not over them. The better translation is The Proletariat's Dictatorship --- The Whole People's Leadership. Yes, We Will Unite.
We all have a dream, that all peoples will work together to bring about a better world for all of us. The International is about that. Not about Stalin's terrible things, or Mao Zedong's terribly stupid things. Why can't people understand what communism is all about? It has never been really tried, I suppose socialism when it works is "shut up about", like most of socialist progress in the last century in all the western countries.
You forget, little children, that the Police and the Military are controlled by us God-Loving, Freeborn (and I will die free, too, Reds), Capitalist Americans who won the cold war and are going to win the war on terror as soon as we remove Obama from office. Call us racist all you want. We'll call you IRRELEVANT. The cold war is over kiddies. Has been. Now fade away along with that filthy lie you call an ideology. When even Castro is saying "Communism doesn't work," it's time to grow up. We win.
@TheDanbristol: What God are you talking about in your arrogant hateful message - you think Jesus is on your side? He was the FIRST Socialist! The civilised world laughs at your intellectually stunted country and all your degenerate presidents - did you hear Bush trying to speak English at any point in your glorious recent past? The soldiers of the world pity especially your penniless, uneducated, juvenile military. And there are 55 million below the poverty line in your victorious country.
Stuff it! Right-wing trash. Jesus who? Do you even realize that Jesus was a Jew? He was not that white boy hanging from a cross with the thorns around his head. How much of the Bible have you read? Did you like the parts that you could make sound as if they agreed with you?
@sturatcliffe Sorry, there is no Jesus, there is no God. There is no Devil, there is no Hell. No Heaven. There is Earth. Mother Earth. Graveyard Earth. You were born here, and you will die here.
And... I do hate capitalism, but communism is a CRAP! Both are CRAP. Just crap, at all.
Yes but you're forgetting that we patriotic, freeborn, capitalistic, God-Fearing True Americans have the military and the police on our side so . . . Guess there won't be any Communist America in YOUR lifetimes. America won the Cold War. We WILL win the war on terror and we will annihilate socialism within out borders. Obama and his pestilential puppets are going to be out in 2012. Don't you Reds read anything that isn't in Newspeak?
@uatwmf I'm neither a racist nor a fascist nor a "franquista", and when I'm called this things, I know it's time to stop. I don't support American war in Iraq and I don't support killing anyone because of their religion or race; but I seriously think religion should disappear some day. Like Mikhail Kalinin said: "You must remember that we persecute nobody for religion. We regard religion as an error and fight it with education."
@uatwmf 1.- I've already seen that film; it points very broad conclusions based on punctual situations. It's not seriously statistical enough.
2.- I don't care what Iraqis and Afghans think about anything (economy, women rights, LGBT rights, violence...); I think their religion based culture is bullshit and should disappear someday (which will only happen when their economy improves).
3.- Yeah, I should someday start reading "The Kapital" from the begining, I have trouble sleeping lately.
This is the best comment produced on this page and has the fewest replies. I believe this, too. China, Russia, Eastern Europe, Cuba, the Congo, etc. All these nations were ruled by nothing more than iron fisted dictators since their creation and with so little experience with democracy, the tradition contined. If a Socialist/Communist state were to be established in a region adapted to democratic thought, friendly neighbors and abundant resources (like the US), it would be wonderful!
@uatwmf "Name me one thing the CEO or capitalist produces". You should look for a business management book and have an impartial read at it; these things are taught in modern universities.
I think Iraq or Afghanistan are burdens for the US Economy; the expenses and the political failures will be greater than the benefits. In my country, the strong propaganda didn't change the way most people thought about the war. And most people see them as an error rather than a strategical oil-basedecision.
@uatwmf I heard Spain is the only country where both communist and anarchists gained power at the same time, it was the moment when anarchists/sindicalists were closest to actually ruling something (in Catalonia during the Civil War); and it ended with communists (with Soviet Union support) fighting anarchists and killing many of them in Barcelona. As a supporter of personal freedoms and rights, I strongly prefer CNT and anarchists over communists and over Franco; but I'm not really sure.
@uatwmf There are some people who have recovered themselves and others who have not, I frankly don't give a fuck about it: we should learn from the mistakes of the past (which both all of them made) and try to improve in the future. I know Franco tried some planified fascist economy when he got there, and finally realized that it just did not work and had to made the market much more open; but I really hate the lack of Freedom under his regime and the catholic church issues.
@uatwmf Two party systems usually imply so much hate between both of them that I would not expect them to make such a conspiracy; and the fact that democracy has some issues doesn't mean democracy is bad. We should instead solve those issues; in my country I have always seen the election results don't differ much from the real opinions of people. And I honestly think communist papers (which I have thoroughly seen) tend to fail because people don't really believe what they say.
@uatwmf In the long term, despite economical differences, in the long term poor population economical conditions will improve. I think the most REALISTIC solution for these countries is working hard, gaining economical stability, democratic stability and foreign investment; like those Asian countries did 50 years ago before becoming the "Economic Tigers" or something like that. How do you think europeans feel when we see almost all of the computer equipment is made in Asia??
@uatwmf I blame the racist slavers and the apartheid; but I don't know about thes oil related problem. The fact that many African countries have human-rights issues doesn't prove capitalism is bad; and the fact that some capitalist enterprises behave badly in Africa doesn't mean capitalism is bad: I blame THOSE WHO BEHAVE BADLY AND NOT THE WHOLE SYSTEM, and I strongly believe those behaviors should be known by the public (which somewhat would damage that company) and prosecuted.
@uatwmf The free-market is not the reason for the U.S. errors; you have free-market with much smaller military spendings (like Japan or Germany) and with much more welfare-state benefits, like Sweden, Norway... I mean the free-market is the economic system that in general works better; I don't like and don't support when capitalist drives free-market to the worst consequences. Communist countries have never be economically successful in the long term; if it fails, why try again?
@uatwmf Can you provide me with serious statistical data that proves proves economical differences are caused by capitalism itself?? When I open my eyes, I see state-controlled economies (no matter whether communist or fascist) have always lagged behind free-market ones in terms of economic growth and, in the long term, human development. Also, I'm from Spain and I can't know about Philippines, TV recently said lots of nurses were trying to go to the USA in order to get better wages.
@uatwmf China's economy, and the rat-hunting cat symbol, only proves that the market economy is the only successful economic system. I don't support capitalist excesses, but I strongly believe believe that free-market economies are the only way to achieve developement, both economical and human. free-market is both free (free offer and free supply) and usually it's democratic, or, at least, the most democratic regime I've seen so far. The fact that Africa is poor doesn't prove capitalism is bad.
@uatwmf The expression-freedom, press-freedom, personal rights and voting rights you find in modern capitalist countries have no match in communist ones or in other societies ever in history. I have heard lots of ideas about the "establishment" and "hidden powers" in capitalist countries, but I've never seen true proof of these; I think they might be related to the bad results communist parties get in the elections, BUT THE FORMER BEING THE CAUSE AND NOT THE CONSEQUENCE.
@uatwmf It's simply not true that the CEO's produce nothing; it's a necessary part of any company and without it the company would simply fail in the medium-short run. Also, I demand proof on those figures.
Wars are caused not by capitalism but by dumb, aggressive people with too much power; there are lots of peaceful capitalist states in Europe, and in many of them public demonstrations against the war took place.
@uatwmf You can also restrict the exploitation made by the oppressor with high taxes for example, with improved worker conditions and without wars. Honestly, I've seen more oppression in communist countries (China?) than in democratic free-market based ones; oppression is oppression, whether communist or not.
I'm an agnostic; I strongly dislike all the religions and dogmatic faith-based ideologies; and, after years of learning about this, I finally think Communism is faith-based, not fact-based.
@uatwmf In modern enterprise, the management is always an important issue that requires economical remuneration, it's not casual that executives work more hours a week than less qualified workers. If you replace executives with standard blue collar workers, that company won't competitive for long. And if all the companies are run like that, I'd expect that economy to be a failure. I think your marxist view is outdated, and it doesn't consider the improvements made by the Vienna philosophers.
@uatwmf Yeah, US has strong corporate interests in Afghanistan, a truly rich country; I think US Economy would be severely damaged if they left that country.
I agree, their presence in Korea (threatened country) and Irak is related to the economical factors, among others, though they are different in both cases. Not all of the Capitalist countries are Imperialist (Europe or Canada, for instance), but Communism is Imperialist in nature since it tries aggresively to expand to other countries
@uatwmf The problem is that in practice, the slaver is always replaced by a new slaver who says that rules for them, and the slaves CAN'T CHOOSE who is their slaver. Democracy is a much better approach to the rule by the vast majority. I have never heard of a good Communist Democracy; it's always like "The party, the party, the party! Supporting the working class interests". But, as a dogmatic ideology, not trying to know what people really think (press freedom, elections, etc.)
@uatwmf The burden of proof is yours; you have to proof that capitalism is exploitative by nature, like Marx attempted to do with XIX century capitalism. Also, neither communism nor socialism has not solved the problems in Africa; and the richest country (South Africa) is capitalist. Yeah, wikipedia is wrong, that happens quit often; when I find something I cannot deal with, I think it must be wrong.
@uatwmf That depends on the Imperialism definition you use. For me, Imperialism implies domination, expansionism, aggresive foreign policy, etc. I've seen it in capitalist countries and in communist countries; in fact all the communist systems I've heard of have always relied heavily on the army.
@uatwmf Now seriously, I'm curious: You mean the people are fools that in democratic elections chose parties that serve the power elite, and the Dictatorship of the Proletariat can serve better people's aims without asking them. You know what's the role Lenin thought Communist parties should have, and what he thought about working class ideology, I think the Communists try to serve the working class interests without really trying to know what people really think
@uatwmf You know, I like Dictatorships of the Proletariat. Those badass rulers do whatever they want not giving a single fuck bout their people. The attitude rocks: "You don't like it, you can't leave the country; DEAL WITH IT. Also, I'm doing this to support your working class. And, since I'm a communist atheist, I don't mind killing you people." If I could chose to live a life, I'd be like Stalin or Mao or something like that.
@uatwmf I agree with you; but then you have the democratic socialist market-based states that try to redistribute the economical resources and improve the economic conditions of the working class without quenching their economic freedom.
Also, I don't think most people are "terribly poor" in capitalist countries: Wikipedia/Gini coefficient.
Finally, I don't think modern capitalism is exploitative in nature, I think that happened when Marx was alive.
@uatwmf Yeah, I agree. The Dictatorships really do settle things. Also many communist don't care whether it's bloody or not, as the Communism is a really strong end for them, as Trotsky said or something. Marx assumed class struggles exist in all societies (and provided examples), so he was ok with state opression. Also, traditional marxism assumes revolution is necessary, must be fast and ruthless (in order not to fail) and must destroy all the remains of the capitalist state.
I have been a Communist, but I'm not longer one. These days, a state controlled economy CANNOT deal with the huge technological changes; and free-market has shown to be more effective dealing with the distribution of goods. State controlled economies have shown incredibly fast Industrial Revolutions (sometimes not even that) but then they stagnate and don't improve much. Also, the people's needs are best fulfilled when they chose what they want instead of the state chosing for them.
@uatwmf I think you don't really understand my comment. I felt really offended when you called me a fascist or neo-con. Also, my idea is: Communism implies dictatorship of the proletariat that leads to a better society in theory; ALWAYS dictatorships in practice. Yeah, violent dictatorships can improve society, it's really truly effectiive. Marxism say that there is oppression of one class in every society, and assumed there would be oppression in the immediately forthcoming dictatorships.
@uatwmf Communists ARE NOT (and I hope will never be) controlling Internet serious businesses, you can see serious countries using these arguments seriously. However, the trolling lies not in the argument but in the troll; though it completely discredits the argument.
@Tougemaster06 All the communist I've seen so far always try to globalize their communism, and, sometimes, their communist imperialism; yet almost all of them criticize globalization on the grounds that it doesn't respect differences between societies. It makes me sad.
Well there is no point in achieving in communism since everyone gets everything. What is not fair is when the government persecutes rich people for making alot of Money. All poor people want to do is buy drugs and be pimps and thugs. But nice song aside from beliefs.
China is an excellent example. Before 1979, China was a rotten communist shithole where people live below the minimum of existence, had to suffer terror, murder, slavery. After introducing CAPITALISTIC reforms, China developped dynamically creating wealth and freedom for a vast majority of people. China s GDP grew 44 times since 1980 and 1976!!!!
This is blasphemous to the God given human rights of all humanity for it glorifies MILITANT socialism (communism). The music sounds nice enough, but it is not nice because of what it stands for. The evil men of the USSR shown on this video murdered times and times more than perished in the Holocaust. The antisemitism of Hitler was nothing compared to this. He was a Sunday school boy compared to these devils.
@w96725 Ummm....God loving America annihilated Native Americans for private property and enslaved black people for profit and cheap labor production. Capital's history is quite violent and tyrannical lol...
I didn't understand the lyrics they tried to cream up, but I loved the rthymth and melody , The Soviet composer of this song is the best of heroic song .
The problem is that Communism is such a "naive" way of ruling and that makes it easy to take advantage of, because someone has to lead still. And then power corrupts and makes em emperors and we're back to square one. Communism will only not be a flop if its implemented with democracy as well and not partyship/dictator rule.
The other "problem" is that to make a country communistic today would require making lots of powerful people lose their might and they never just surrender it.
@barath4545 Well first of all, you can't rule in a communist way. A Stalinist way yes, but communist way no. Communism is no state, no nations, no class. Communism has its roots in Anarchism. You have to remember Capitalism created the state, not Socialism. Secondly, The Soviet Union was a product of Marxist-Leninism, not genuine Left Marxist/Socialist ideals...
@Tougemaster06 I think you're right. But wouldnt that create alot of oppotunistic thugs that needs to be rooted out by the people themselves then?
And how would that work. Dont get me wrong, I think communism sounds great but its so good that the vast oppotunities would ruin the balance because of egoists and then would ruin it for the rest. So how would a police force work with no goverment?..just people police?..no laws?
@barath4545 First of all, you have to remember Communism only happens when people are ready for it. Thus, the issues you are bringing up are irrelevant because society becomes Communist on its own. Its not something you can institute. History moves deterministically according to the actions of men. We will be communist when we are ready for it, because we will be a society that will be ready to move towards; thus being enlightened etc.
@barath4545 In conclusion, you wouldn't need a police force because people in a Communist society have learned to get along and not exploit each other because their individual needs are met. Laws, again would be unnecessary because there is no state. People would just rule themselves and if people didn't abide by them, they would be kicked out of society.In the end, Communism is too abstract to even talk about in conversation. Focus on Socialism :)
Lenin was such a good communist he had to institute the New Economic Policy, i.e. capitalism, to save his regime. How about we skip the heroic worker's revolution that ends up failing and just stick with capitalism, eh? Margaret Thatcher said it right, "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
Agreed, the communist failure happened in last country doesn't mean the idea that all people are created equal and wealth should be distributed evenly, was wrong. At that time, people had passion, had believe, which I am personally jealous right now. Communism in 20th century left tremendous legacy for our people living nowadays.
No matter whether communism is right or wrong, no matter how many mistakes they might have made, communism was a great wish that all human beings could live freely and equally without sufferings. No matter what we do, hope we achieve such a dream one day.
@davidwmasquelier It just doesn't work. Human kind is not made for such a life. They can only prosper if they compete in the wilderness of capitalism. Yes, in communism they could always have a job, always have a house, free medical services... but all these services cannot evolve without competition, no matter how hard you try. People can't just be all at the same level. They need to know that they can go higher than the other, in order to try hard enough and achieve something big.
True communism has never been given a chance. The false communism used throughout parts of the world has less to do with equality for all than power for the few.
True communism, a fair share for all, is the dream all should be striving for.
@nacho1560 True communist starts with a dictatorship of the proletariat, I support the systems that have come and gone because the only killings they did were the ones who deserved it... those who benefitted at the expense of the proletariat!
I think Milovan Đilas said it best about Joseph Stalin:
"Every crime was possible to Stalin, for there was not one he had not comitted. Whatever standards we use to take his measure, in any event -- let us hope for all time to come -- to him will fall the glory of being the greatest criminal in history. For in him were joined the senselessness of a Caligula with the refinement of a Borgia and the brutality of a Tsar Ivan the Terrible."
Communist dictatorship totally ruined all Hungary, and people in Hungary (Except those communist scums, who are still sitting comforted in the Parliament of Hungary).
This is a FACT! Communists privatized alot of hospitals, stole peoples wealth, and gave it to other communist scums! By the way, the REAL communism cannot be attainable,because, I know, it would be so cool, but if people wouldn't get money for what they have worked, but they could go to shops, and get what they want free.IMPOSSIBLE
Dude, this is just the sound of the naive longing for the freedom of the suppressed people from two supporters of the short-lived Paris Commune. What you said may all be historical facts, and I have no less scorn for those murderers in the name of communists, but do not disrespect those who did have good wills (albeit naively but aren't we all limited by our visions?).
i can see mao's eyes at 3:32
logerbad19 1 week ago
Death to Fascist scum
Kommunist93 2 weeks ago
this music makes me strong!
SpicyHam 1 month ago
can you believe they're talking about tearing down Lenin's tomb??
I still haven't had a chance to see it!!
painlessissuicide 2 months ago
Im only 13 and I see a bright red future.
RussianPride229 2 months ago
It seems a bit absurd to suggest that the US doesn't have one of the highest performing military in the world. I'm not trying to defend the US, it's just a fact really. Their massively bloated and overfunded military is maintained at the expense of the people. The US is ruled by billionaires and multinational corporations these days. It's high time they ditched them, the military, and capitalism and embraced a more equitable system. Socialism is basically a curse word there, sadly.
SpiritWolf1944 4 months ago
@SpiritWolf1944 The U.S does have the second most well trained military on the planet (First is Russia) and the second most soldiers (First is PRC)
Grant691 3 months ago
the only good communist leader i know is lenin, trotsky and mao, the rest ruled their country like it's like a cage like stalin killed a lot and kim jong il
logerbad19 5 months ago
@logerbad19 agree.. some of them are not communist, they rise to power in the name of communist but they dont have the heart of a true communist... they are liar......
LinWeiHuang 4 months ago
@LinWeiHuang a true communist reads and understands the communist manifesto,
NOT RULE THE COUNTRY LIKE HIS OWN HOME AND MAKE ITS CITIZENS TREATED LIKE A DOG OR SLAVE!!
logerbad19 4 months ago
@logerbad19 absolutely agree... but i feel i must remind you, that "treating people like slave" and "people is in a suffering moment" is different...
i mean.. like this....
i dislike it when commentators claim Chairman Mao a tyrant like kim jong il.... Mao didnt intentionally killed his people.. starvation did.... even chairman himself only eat plain rice with a piece of chilly each meal....
there are crisis times....
may i ask your great name sire?
LinWeiHuang 4 months ago
@LinWeiHuang iagree, my chinese friend said mao wanted china to be like the soviet union and the people got mad about it,, he just wanted china to be a proporous nation
logerbad19 4 months ago
Basically, there is nothing wrong to seek for communism which is described as a harmony and equal world. Maybe there is a day for that world. But it is too early for the current world to practice in that way.
klarkewang 6 months ago
The Chinese Communist Party makes me missing the communism.
currybeefrice 7 months ago
Anthem ist in deutscher Sprache ???
giannidicosium 8 months ago
共产主义是全民公有制，达到均富，目前的发展还不能达到生产资本的均配，因此产生了很大的收入分配差距，但是作为一个共产主义青年团团员，我相信社会主义的本质不黑暗，不要把现象去批判本质。共产主义只是经济体制的代言词，并不是说必须要共产党执政，真正意义上的共产主义的时代也可以进行普选，这一点马克思没有否认呀，只是说由无产阶级执政。只要国家富强了，人民的整体素质提高了，真正的共产主义才能实现。
scofieldtank 9 months ago 2
@scofieldtank Und Nordkorea ist das zweite glücklicheste von alle Ländern XD
xyfcai 8 months ago
@scofieldtank 西方把 共产 这个词大大的政治话了. 大部分人并不知道共产主义本质的意思. 网上很少见有你这种清晰的帖. 赞一个.
BlueCrystalGem 8 months ago
@BlueCrystalGem 谁让西方长久地把共产主义妖魔化？所谓的“自由世界”也不过如此，照样是，媒体充满误导的宣传，又有多少他们所标榜的“独立思考”呢?
LeiHongxing 7 months ago
黨要專政，如何普選？
aqi170 2 weeks ago
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You can trust your Czar to the man who wears the Star!
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emmy1cat 9 months ago
Stalin=GENOCIDAL dictator, even the CPSU denounced his sick reign of terror. And as if it wasn't bad enough for him to bring his own country to ruin, he had to shove communism down the throats of countries that wanted nothing to do with it. He was the most brazen imperialist in modern history. What right did he have to install Kim Il Sung? No one in Korea had even heard of him before 1945, but as soon as the Red army shows up suddenly he's in charge. WTF?
NO TO COMMUNISM
TheTollundWoman 10 months ago
The left needs to return bigger, harder and more totalitarian than ever before. The bourgeoisie and the Anglo-American global capitalist conspiracy have grown to such a demonic extent that we will need to launch a red terror on a scale to make Stalin's purges look like a hippy love in.
Forward comrades, let us destroy this capitalist serpent!
DoctorBohr 10 months ago
Stalin was a monster who killed enough people to make Hitler look like a piker. Lenin wished he had the means to be a violent leader. How do I know when any Bush or Palin is lying? His/her mouth is open. None of which has anything to do with "The Internatioonale" or "Solidarity Forever," which sing of the best we could be, not how we are--monsters.
snarlacarla 11 months ago
What is this? No love for Trotsky, instead you feature two coneheads like Mao and Stalin??
mharris666 11 months ago
bon!!!!!!!
cibonwang 1 year ago
Mao did not kill his own people. he killed those against his wills.
milktea556 1 year ago
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delsieshirar79 1 year ago 9
想創造人類的幸福，全靠我們自己！
GregR224 1 year ago 2
"Soon we will see the victory of communism all over the world"...eeeeerrrrr
WSWarthog 1 year ago
bloody stalin ruined the communist movements worldwide...
fahd090078601 1 year ago
@fahd090078601
No he didn't. His government aided Spain, liberated Europe, set up socialist countries in Eastern Europe, assisted the Chinese and Korean communists, pushed for the democratization of Finland, supported European socialist parties, inspired tons of people by industrializing a country in a generation, built a viable socialist economy in the USSR, and supported black liberation in the US. But there should have been proper democracy, that's the lesson learned.
TheNomadicMonad 1 year ago
@TheNomadicMonad
Hahahah, exactly, you are right thats what Stalin did. He:
- set up socialist shithoole in the East of Europe and sent tanks any time when people stood up for freedom
- assisted the Chinese iand Korean communists in building a communist concentration camp. Feel free to go North Korea to get a grip of what Stalinism is all about
- failed miserably any time he tried to industrialize the country
- he killed 40 milllion people in his country
- cause massive famines
joaquinveyron 11 months ago
@TheNomadicMonad
Stalin IMPOSED communism on Korea, no one had even heard of Kim Il Sung before 1945 but when the Red army "liberated" asia he suddenly had absolute power. the Korean "Workers' party" had NO popular support, it never had more than a few hundred members and most of them spent the Japanese occupation safely in Russia, and then tried to claim credit for winning a war they had even't fought in. N. Korea is communist only because of SOVIET IMPERIALISM
TheTollundWoman 10 months ago
@TheNomadicMonad
Stalin didn't "liberate" eastern europe, he just replaced one hell (fascism) with another (communism.) And the Communist parties in Poland and E. Germany were NEVER ELECTED, they were forced on the indigenous population by the Soviet army. Mao was right about one thing, Communist power flows only from the barrel of a gun.
TheTollundWoman 10 months ago
@TheTollundWoman go fuck your self you Fascist go to your skin head meating and get of trolling
choaticllama 6 months ago
@TheTollundWoman
Stalin replaced that with a a classless and stateless society structured upon common ownership of the means of production, free access to articles of consumption, and the end of wage labour and private property in the means of production and real estate? No?
Cookaloka 6 months ago
:( russian communist already...Collapse , very Unfortunately, if no collapse, russian is a The world's second largest country!
lailai5566 1 year ago
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@lailai5566 No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitome of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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@lailai5566
No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitome of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
long live communism!!! manse! manse!
paul476hong 1 year ago
i am sick and tired of these 'communist' idiots who idolize stalin, mao, kim il sung and the like.
they did not want communism for the people, they wanted to rule over the people. how can you support an evil man who kills his own people, and his own comrades, and call yourself a die-hard communist?
kashga11 1 year ago
@kashga11 They reflect how communism can be if ordinary people give up their rights and democracy. But they did not prove communism is wrong or capitalism is right - actually a better society can be built through integrating communism and real democracy - it will be fair, equal and free. The bottom line is:
1. We never believe a society is good enough not to be improved.
2. We never believe improving the society should sacrifice the human rights we already have.
pkugaoqin 1 year ago
@kashga11 Mao brought an end to western world milking off china, Albania prospered under communist rule, developing education and electricity. Stalin fed a nation. Communism does not mean Stalin, or Kim Il Sung. Communism is an idea. So please.
vinsong 1 year ago
@vinsong it is an idea. but the price of mao bringing an end to the west milking china? stalin feeding the USSR? what was the human cost?
kashga11 1 year ago
CAPITALISM doesn't kill people..Capitalism is just a lawless work it out between parties system..Every form of system has had some kind of violent history you can't say Captialism is the enemy it's just not fair. Mao killed 50 million people..And did you forget about the Red Terror?
Krivaka 1 year ago
and alsso mao killed a lot of people,
look i'm also a socialist but let the other people alive
even if they wrong
rastaman19992 1 year ago
Beautifull anthem, but why Stalin. All the other where good leaders, but Stalin kills everybody also communism itself, like Trotsky. So tell me why Stalin and not Trotsky.
Do never follow somebody just because it has a political name who you like
rastaman19992 1 year ago
GREAT ANTHEM
brunotopo 1 year ago
Workers of the world, hear me. Do not listen to the false faces of Soscialism that are Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. A communist regime is not one of an elitist group having a dictatorship, but a government of the people, run by the people. Carl Marx only used the words Dictatorship of the Proletariate 3 times, and it was only ment to be a temperary rule before a democratic soscialist sosciety could be established. Also, terror is a capitalistic thing too. We shal unite against the tyrany and evil!
CylonAndrew 1 year ago
@CylonAndrew. Dictatorship of the Proletariate means dictatorship BY the proletariat, not over them. The better translation is The Proletariat's Dictatorship --- The Whole People's Leadership. Yes, We Will Unite.
sturatcliffe 1 year ago
@sturatcliffe THAT is the best Marx translation ever! You rock man!! :D
TheDutchGame 1 year ago
We all have a dream, that all peoples will work together to bring about a better world for all of us. The International is about that. Not about Stalin's terrible things, or Mao Zedong's terribly stupid things. Why can't people understand what communism is all about? It has never been really tried, I suppose socialism when it works is "shut up about", like most of socialist progress in the last century in all the western countries.
Simpson654 1 year ago
You forget, little children, that the Police and the Military are controlled by us God-Loving, Freeborn (and I will die free, too, Reds), Capitalist Americans who won the cold war and are going to win the war on terror as soon as we remove Obama from office. Call us racist all you want. We'll call you IRRELEVANT. The cold war is over kiddies. Has been. Now fade away along with that filthy lie you call an ideology. When even Castro is saying "Communism doesn't work," it's time to grow up. We win.
TheDanbristol 1 year ago
@TheDanbristol: What God are you talking about in your arrogant hateful message - you think Jesus is on your side? He was the FIRST Socialist! The civilised world laughs at your intellectually stunted country and all your degenerate presidents - did you hear Bush trying to speak English at any point in your glorious recent past? The soldiers of the world pity especially your penniless, uneducated, juvenile military. And there are 55 million below the poverty line in your victorious country.
sturatcliffe 1 year ago 36
@sturatcliffe
Stuff it! Right-wing trash. Jesus who? Do you even realize that Jesus was a Jew? He was not that white boy hanging from a cross with the thorns around his head. How much of the Bible have you read? Did you like the parts that you could make sound as if they agreed with you?
snarlacarla 11 months ago
@sturatcliffe Thank you!
TheAmazingRusski 10 months ago
@sturatcliffe Sorry, there is no Jesus, there is no God. There is no Devil, there is no Hell. No Heaven. There is Earth. Mother Earth. Graveyard Earth. You were born here, and you will die here.
And... I do hate capitalism, but communism is a CRAP! Both are CRAP. Just crap, at all.
gkyy3c 3 weeks ago
Yes but you're forgetting that we patriotic, freeborn, capitalistic, God-Fearing True Americans have the military and the police on our side so . . . Guess there won't be any Communist America in YOUR lifetimes. America won the Cold War. We WILL win the war on terror and we will annihilate socialism within out borders. Obama and his pestilential puppets are going to be out in 2012. Don't you Reds read anything that isn't in Newspeak?
TheDanbristol 1 year ago
@uatwmf I'm neither a racist nor a fascist nor a "franquista", and when I'm called this things, I know it's time to stop. I don't support American war in Iraq and I don't support killing anyone because of their religion or race; but I seriously think religion should disappear some day. Like Mikhail Kalinin said: "You must remember that we persecute nobody for religion. We regard religion as an error and fight it with education."
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf 1.- I've already seen that film; it points very broad conclusions based on punctual situations. It's not seriously statistical enough.
2.- I don't care what Iraqis and Afghans think about anything (economy, women rights, LGBT rights, violence...); I think their religion based culture is bullshit and should disappear someday (which will only happen when their economy improves).
3.- Yeah, I should someday start reading "The Kapital" from the begining, I have trouble sleeping lately.
maricahn 1 year ago
I wonder what would have happened with Communism if had started in a country with a democratic tradition.
rudi1889 1 year ago
@rudi1889
This is the best comment produced on this page and has the fewest replies. I believe this, too. China, Russia, Eastern Europe, Cuba, the Congo, etc. All these nations were ruled by nothing more than iron fisted dictators since their creation and with so little experience with democracy, the tradition contined. If a Socialist/Communist state were to be established in a region adapted to democratic thought, friendly neighbors and abundant resources (like the US), it would be wonderful!
ComradeCorwin 1 year ago
@uatwmf "Name me one thing the CEO or capitalist produces". You should look for a business management book and have an impartial read at it; these things are taught in modern universities.
I think Iraq or Afghanistan are burdens for the US Economy; the expenses and the political failures will be greater than the benefits. In my country, the strong propaganda didn't change the way most people thought about the war. And most people see them as an error rather than a strategical oil-basedecision.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf I heard Spain is the only country where both communist and anarchists gained power at the same time, it was the moment when anarchists/sindicalists were closest to actually ruling something (in Catalonia during the Civil War); and it ended with communists (with Soviet Union support) fighting anarchists and killing many of them in Barcelona. As a supporter of personal freedoms and rights, I strongly prefer CNT and anarchists over communists and over Franco; but I'm not really sure.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf There are some people who have recovered themselves and others who have not, I frankly don't give a fuck about it: we should learn from the mistakes of the past (which both all of them made) and try to improve in the future. I know Franco tried some planified fascist economy when he got there, and finally realized that it just did not work and had to made the market much more open; but I really hate the lack of Freedom under his regime and the catholic church issues.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Two party systems usually imply so much hate between both of them that I would not expect them to make such a conspiracy; and the fact that democracy has some issues doesn't mean democracy is bad. We should instead solve those issues; in my country I have always seen the election results don't differ much from the real opinions of people. And I honestly think communist papers (which I have thoroughly seen) tend to fail because people don't really believe what they say.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf In the long term, despite economical differences, in the long term poor population economical conditions will improve. I think the most REALISTIC solution for these countries is working hard, gaining economical stability, democratic stability and foreign investment; like those Asian countries did 50 years ago before becoming the "Economic Tigers" or something like that. How do you think europeans feel when we see almost all of the computer equipment is made in Asia??
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf I blame the racist slavers and the apartheid; but I don't know about thes oil related problem. The fact that many African countries have human-rights issues doesn't prove capitalism is bad; and the fact that some capitalist enterprises behave badly in Africa doesn't mean capitalism is bad: I blame THOSE WHO BEHAVE BADLY AND NOT THE WHOLE SYSTEM, and I strongly believe those behaviors should be known by the public (which somewhat would damage that company) and prosecuted.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf The free-market is not the reason for the U.S. errors; you have free-market with much smaller military spendings (like Japan or Germany) and with much more welfare-state benefits, like Sweden, Norway... I mean the free-market is the economic system that in general works better; I don't like and don't support when capitalist drives free-market to the worst consequences. Communist countries have never be economically successful in the long term; if it fails, why try again?
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Also, now that you talk about lack of medical care in the US, I think I might have been intensively trolled. THANK YOU!!!!!1!!!1!
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Can you provide me with serious statistical data that proves proves economical differences are caused by capitalism itself?? When I open my eyes, I see state-controlled economies (no matter whether communist or fascist) have always lagged behind free-market ones in terms of economic growth and, in the long term, human development. Also, I'm from Spain and I can't know about Philippines, TV recently said lots of nurses were trying to go to the USA in order to get better wages.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf I'm not a neo-liberal or globalist; but I'm a free-market supporter. Also, I thank you for the effort you're making.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf China's economy, and the rat-hunting cat symbol, only proves that the market economy is the only successful economic system. I don't support capitalist excesses, but I strongly believe believe that free-market economies are the only way to achieve developement, both economical and human. free-market is both free (free offer and free supply) and usually it's democratic, or, at least, the most democratic regime I've seen so far. The fact that Africa is poor doesn't prove capitalism is bad.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf The expression-freedom, press-freedom, personal rights and voting rights you find in modern capitalist countries have no match in communist ones or in other societies ever in history. I have heard lots of ideas about the "establishment" and "hidden powers" in capitalist countries, but I've never seen true proof of these; I think they might be related to the bad results communist parties get in the elections, BUT THE FORMER BEING THE CAUSE AND NOT THE CONSEQUENCE.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf It's simply not true that the CEO's produce nothing; it's a necessary part of any company and without it the company would simply fail in the medium-short run. Also, I demand proof on those figures.
Wars are caused not by capitalism but by dumb, aggressive people with too much power; there are lots of peaceful capitalist states in Europe, and in many of them public demonstrations against the war took place.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf You can also restrict the exploitation made by the oppressor with high taxes for example, with improved worker conditions and without wars. Honestly, I've seen more oppression in communist countries (China?) than in democratic free-market based ones; oppression is oppression, whether communist or not.
I'm an agnostic; I strongly dislike all the religions and dogmatic faith-based ideologies; and, after years of learning about this, I finally think Communism is faith-based, not fact-based.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf In modern enterprise, the management is always an important issue that requires economical remuneration, it's not casual that executives work more hours a week than less qualified workers. If you replace executives with standard blue collar workers, that company won't competitive for long. And if all the companies are run like that, I'd expect that economy to be a failure. I think your marxist view is outdated, and it doesn't consider the improvements made by the Vienna philosophers.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Yeah, US has strong corporate interests in Afghanistan, a truly rich country; I think US Economy would be severely damaged if they left that country.
I agree, their presence in Korea (threatened country) and Irak is related to the economical factors, among others, though they are different in both cases. Not all of the Capitalist countries are Imperialist (Europe or Canada, for instance), but Communism is Imperialist in nature since it tries aggresively to expand to other countries
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf The problem is that in practice, the slaver is always replaced by a new slaver who says that rules for them, and the slaves CAN'T CHOOSE who is their slaver. Democracy is a much better approach to the rule by the vast majority. I have never heard of a good Communist Democracy; it's always like "The party, the party, the party! Supporting the working class interests". But, as a dogmatic ideology, not trying to know what people really think (press freedom, elections, etc.)
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Also, you economic freedom and free-market don't necessarily include exploitation of people, etc; that's a communist unsubstantiated dogma.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf The burden of proof is yours; you have to proof that capitalism is exploitative by nature, like Marx attempted to do with XIX century capitalism. Also, neither communism nor socialism has not solved the problems in Africa; and the richest country (South Africa) is capitalist. Yeah, wikipedia is wrong, that happens quit often; when I find something I cannot deal with, I think it must be wrong.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Capitalism => Economic growth, democracky, human rights (at least in Europe)
Leftists => Human rights are really important.
Karl Marx => Human rights? WTF is that?
Communism in theory => Human rights? That's not the main thing.
Communism in practice => Human rights? LOL.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf That depends on the Imperialism definition you use. For me, Imperialism implies domination, expansionism, aggresive foreign policy, etc. I've seen it in capitalist countries and in communist countries; in fact all the communist systems I've heard of have always relied heavily on the army.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Now seriously, I'm curious: You mean the people are fools that in democratic elections chose parties that serve the power elite, and the Dictatorship of the Proletariat can serve better people's aims without asking them. You know what's the role Lenin thought Communist parties should have, and what he thought about working class ideology, I think the Communists try to serve the working class interests without really trying to know what people really think
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf You know, I like Dictatorships of the Proletariat. Those badass rulers do whatever they want not giving a single fuck bout their people. The attitude rocks: "You don't like it, you can't leave the country; DEAL WITH IT. Also, I'm doing this to support your working class. And, since I'm a communist atheist, I don't mind killing you people." If I could chose to live a life, I'd be like Stalin or Mao or something like that.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf I agree with you; but then you have the democratic socialist market-based states that try to redistribute the economical resources and improve the economic conditions of the working class without quenching their economic freedom.
Also, I don't think most people are "terribly poor" in capitalist countries: Wikipedia/Gini coefficient.
Finally, I don't think modern capitalism is exploitative in nature, I think that happened when Marx was alive.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Yeah, I agree. The Dictatorships really do settle things. Also many communist don't care whether it's bloody or not, as the Communism is a really strong end for them, as Trotsky said or something. Marx assumed class struggles exist in all societies (and provided examples), so he was ok with state opression. Also, traditional marxism assumes revolution is necessary, must be fast and ruthless (in order not to fail) and must destroy all the remains of the capitalist state.
maricahn 1 year ago
I have been a Communist, but I'm not longer one. These days, a state controlled economy CANNOT deal with the huge technological changes; and free-market has shown to be more effective dealing with the distribution of goods. State controlled economies have shown incredibly fast Industrial Revolutions (sometimes not even that) but then they stagnate and don't improve much. Also, the people's needs are best fulfilled when they chose what they want instead of the state chosing for them.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf I think you don't really understand my comment. I felt really offended when you called me a fascist or neo-con. Also, my idea is: Communism implies dictatorship of the proletariat that leads to a better society in theory; ALWAYS dictatorships in practice. Yeah, violent dictatorships can improve society, it's really truly effectiive. Marxism say that there is oppression of one class in every society, and assumed there would be oppression in the immediately forthcoming dictatorships.
maricahn 1 year ago
@uatwmf Communists ARE NOT (and I hope will never be) controlling Internet serious businesses, you can see serious countries using these arguments seriously. However, the trolling lies not in the argument but in the troll; though it completely discredits the argument.
maricahn 1 year ago
Japan needs Lenin.
thefuegotiger 1 year ago
@uatwmf fallacied like a true retard
maricahn 1 year ago
How can this be anti-globalization if this is an international song????
maricahn 1 year ago
@maricahn Globalization is euphemism for Global Capitalism.
Tougemaster06 1 year ago
@Tougemaster06 All the communist I've seen so far always try to globalize their communism, and, sometimes, their communist imperialism; yet almost all of them criticize globalization on the grounds that it doesn't respect differences between societies. It makes me sad.
maricahn 1 year ago
Well there is no point in achieving in communism since everyone gets everything. What is not fair is when the government persecutes rich people for making alot of Money. All poor people want to do is buy drugs and be pimps and thugs. But nice song aside from beliefs.
stickman47487 1 year ago
我們現在所謂的共產主義根本不是真正意義上的共產主義，那些虛偽的共產主義，虛偽的打著共產主義的旗號欺壓我們，掛著羊頭邁著狗肉，與共產主義的宗旨背道而馳，為了少數人的麗麗，不惜一切，哪怕是犧牲子孫的生活環境也在所不惜，這和舊資本主義有區別嗎？和現在他們所謂的資本主義國家的發達國家比，你不感到羞愧嗎？自己在走資本主義，而且還是資本主義早期最醜惡的原始積累，不惜一切代價榨取剩餘價值，還美其名曰“特色的社會主義”，這是什麼？這是當權者醜陋的嘴臉，專制的資本主義，毫無民主可言，民主不是擺在嘴上的，是要有實際行動的，試問這個人民代表代表著誰啊？我票都沒投過，他們怎麼出來的？真正的社會主義是要由民眾投票選舉出能代表我們廣大勞動人民利益的代表，而不是內定的代表當權者利益的走狗，傀儡。
以國際歌結尾結束此次品論
共產主義終將會實現
This is our final
and decisive battle.
With the Internationale
the human race will arise
e8209832 1 year ago
@e8209832
China is an excellent example. Before 1979, China was a rotten communist shithole where people live below the minimum of existence, had to suffer terror, murder, slavery. After introducing CAPITALISTIC reforms, China developped dynamically creating wealth and freedom for a vast majority of people. China s GDP grew 44 times since 1980 and 1976!!!!
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron You have to be joking me.
squathacker 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron
Totally bullshit. You got what you paid. Chinese get money, AND lose faith.
yuncat 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron Market-Leninism exist to serve the goals of the Chinese Communist Party. As the joke goes,
"Workers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your mortgages!" lol;
Tougemaster06 1 year ago
可悲之处在于美好的理想与主义却成为独裁专政的借口。
The sadness is that the beautiful idea is replaced by totalism and tyranny.
AKDGsonic 1 year ago
is stalin a geogia people? he look like a vietnam person
gundamterryful 1 year ago
没有中国人评论么？老毛压轴啊
n0www 1 year ago
This is blasphemous to the God given human rights of all humanity for it glorifies MILITANT socialism (communism). The music sounds nice enough, but it is not nice because of what it stands for. The evil men of the USSR shown on this video murdered times and times more than perished in the Holocaust. The antisemitism of Hitler was nothing compared to this. He was a Sunday school boy compared to these devils.
w96725 1 year ago
@w96725 Ummm....God loving America annihilated Native Americans for private property and enslaved black people for profit and cheap labor production. Capital's history is quite violent and tyrannical lol...
Tougemaster06 1 year ago 16
I didn't understand the lyrics they tried to cream up, but I loved the rthymth and melody , The Soviet composer of this song is the best of heroic song .
huynhminhtri 1 year ago
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@Tougemaster06
How do you call someone who reads Marx and Lenin? A communist.
How do you call someone who understands Marx and Lenin? An anti-communist.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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@Tougemaster06
How do you tell someone who reads Marx, Engels and Lenin? -- Easy one: A communist.
How do you tell someone who understands Marx, Engels and Lenin?--- Easy one as well: An anti-communist.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
The problem is that Communism is such a "naive" way of ruling and that makes it easy to take advantage of, because someone has to lead still. And then power corrupts and makes em emperors and we're back to square one. Communism will only not be a flop if its implemented with democracy as well and not partyship/dictator rule.
The other "problem" is that to make a country communistic today would require making lots of powerful people lose their might and they never just surrender it.
barath4545 1 year ago
@barath4545 Well first of all, you can't rule in a communist way. A Stalinist way yes, but communist way no. Communism is no state, no nations, no class. Communism has its roots in Anarchism. You have to remember Capitalism created the state, not Socialism. Secondly, The Soviet Union was a product of Marxist-Leninism, not genuine Left Marxist/Socialist ideals...
Tougemaster06 1 year ago
@Tougemaster06 I think you're right. But wouldnt that create alot of oppotunistic thugs that needs to be rooted out by the people themselves then?
And how would that work. Dont get me wrong, I think communism sounds great but its so good that the vast oppotunities would ruin the balance because of egoists and then would ruin it for the rest. So how would a police force work with no goverment?..just people police?..no laws?
barath4545 1 year ago
@barath4545 First of all, you have to remember Communism only happens when people are ready for it. Thus, the issues you are bringing up are irrelevant because society becomes Communist on its own. Its not something you can institute. History moves deterministically according to the actions of men. We will be communist when we are ready for it, because we will be a society that will be ready to move towards; thus being enlightened etc.
Tougemaster06 1 year ago
@barath4545 In conclusion, you wouldn't need a police force because people in a Communist society have learned to get along and not exploit each other because their individual needs are met. Laws, again would be unnecessary because there is no state. People would just rule themselves and if people didn't abide by them, they would be kicked out of society.In the end, Communism is too abstract to even talk about in conversation. Focus on Socialism :)
Tougemaster06 1 year ago
Sorry to see Stalin in this. The evilest man who ever lived, worse than Hitler or Pol Pot.
Axgoodofdunemaul 1 year ago
unite against the capitalism system, save humanity from the influence of capitalism by knowledge.
wasimghani192 1 year ago 11
The song itself is pretty good. Good music, but the lyric... is too good to become true.
The truth behind these films/photos are horrible.
LerhChang 1 year ago
Lenin was such a good communist he had to institute the New Economic Policy, i.e. capitalism, to save his regime. How about we skip the heroic worker's revolution that ends up failing and just stick with capitalism, eh? Margaret Thatcher said it right, "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
sechristaaron 1 year ago
With the history of Communism in the 20th century, it astonishes that people can still be so obtuse as to believe this stuff.
stpetric 1 year ago
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reddemocary 1 year ago
Lenin has always been one of my heroes. Lenin wanted to make world a better place for everybody. Stalin and Hitler wanted to destroy the world.
ss90ss444 1 year ago 2
Lenin is a hero of mine too, which is why I recommend people stop this video at about 1:20. :)
Still, as much as I loath Stalin, I have to say that equating him with Adolf Hitler is absurd.
mqduck 1 year ago
Agreed, the communist failure happened in last country doesn't mean the idea that all people are created equal and wealth should be distributed evenly, was wrong. At that time, people had passion, had believe, which I am personally jealous right now. Communism in 20th century left tremendous legacy for our people living nowadays.
GTBTRH 1 year ago 2
No matter whether communism is right or wrong, no matter how many mistakes they might have made, communism was a great wish that all human beings could live freely and equally without sufferings. No matter what we do, hope we achieve such a dream one day.
hezixiao 1 year ago 19
@hezixiao it was a hope, full of blood. We all want to dream again.
BERTRAMCAT 1 year ago
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I feel so dirty right now after seeing murderous Stalin and Mao and the Internationale in the same video.
commissarusa 2 years ago
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communism can suck my balls!!!
LarentisOnline 2 years ago
nice
chuckpakfai 2 years ago 3
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Fu*k Beijing communist government!!!!
Get the fu*k out of Hong Kong.. all Chinese mainlanders!!!
BillyKing376 2 years ago
greed is the system
(g. translate)
w1nt3rx 2 years ago
vid you fascist youtube.
w1nt3rx 2 years ago
中國共產黨不是比喻自己是救世主了嗎？此曲貼切說明了共產黨最後奪取了群眾們勞動果實吸盡群眾們血汗，變成騎在人民頭上獨裁極權封建反動腐敗貪污集團了。
cohenson 2 years ago
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speak english you idiotic man
jsyn1230 2 years ago
你這個Jsye1230肯定是潛伏在加拿大的中共間諜特務吧! 小心行事別暴露中共間諜特務身份啊! 否則你一旦被加拿大情報機構捕獲你就要自求多福準備為邪共犠牲! 邪共絕對絕對不會出手營救你這個白痴中共間諜特務喇!
cohenson 2 years ago
那你赶紧上你干爹那里举报我吧. 说不定人家还能赏你块骨头吃哈哈
jsyn1230 2 years ago 2
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哈哈，我们就是支持中共，只要中共一天不让台湾独立它就是正义的。在台湾投降之前你就只能活在我们的火箭和导弹的射程覆盖之下了，哈哈哈。
dragonblood911 2 years ago
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嗨～dragonblood911....
支那不是列強..
至少內層心理層面上還是弱者！！
否則嘴上叫囂為何不絕我耳...？
呵呵！！
Auo000 2 years ago
They also got you guys under 火箭和导弹的射程覆盖之下, the target is Shanghai and Beijing, 哈哈哈, 哈哈哈.
kchan77 1 year ago
allow me to translate for you, roughly it means that you are the idiot
kartistman 2 years ago
Freedom of expression comrade,...
perestroikaMoska 2 years ago 3
Communism lives in our heart forever. We must all show Solidarity and in the struggle against capitalist greed, fraud and MURDER.
jerzymirsky 2 years ago 29
@jerzymirsky we tried that once. if failed
albanuri 1 year ago
@albanuri i say lets try it again and learn from our mistakes.
davidwmasquelier 1 year ago 2
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@davidwmasquelier It just doesn't work. Human kind is not made for such a life. They can only prosper if they compete in the wilderness of capitalism. Yes, in communism they could always have a job, always have a house, free medical services... but all these services cannot evolve without competition, no matter how hard you try. People can't just be all at the same level. They need to know that they can go higher than the other, in order to try hard enough and achieve something big.
albanuri 1 year ago
@davidwmasquelier ^^ you rigth
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albanuri 1 year ago
True communism has never been given a chance. The false communism used throughout parts of the world has less to do with equality for all than power for the few.
True communism, a fair share for all, is the dream all should be striving for.
nacho1560 2 years ago 31
@nacho1560 True communist starts with a dictatorship of the proletariat, I support the systems that have come and gone because the only killings they did were the ones who deserved it... those who benefitted at the expense of the proletariat!
CommieThreat 1 year ago
@nacho1560 It is coming still.
Communism is the power of the people like in China now
Communism is the old power of the USSR that defeated evil
Communism is the sharing as in the great corporations like McDonalds
Communism is not murder like happened to the Tsar and his family
Communism is not the selfish greed as practiced by Wall Street executives
Communism is not the corruption as bought down the USSR
Communism will finally be achieved by CHINA.
MarschNZ 1 year ago
I have read the book Conversations with Stalin written by Milovan Đilas. Stalin was a criminal no doubt.
ss90ss444 2 years ago
I think Milovan Đilas said it best about Joseph Stalin:
"Every crime was possible to Stalin, for there was not one he had not comitted. Whatever standards we use to take his measure, in any event -- let us hope for all time to come -- to him will fall the glory of being the greatest criminal in history. For in him were joined the senselessness of a Caligula with the refinement of a Borgia and the brutality of a Tsar Ivan the Terrible."
-Yugoslavian Communist Milovan Djilas-
ss90ss444 2 years ago
Communist dictatorship totally ruined all Hungary, and people in Hungary (Except those communist scums, who are still sitting comforted in the Parliament of Hungary).
This is a FACT! Communists privatized alot of hospitals, stole peoples wealth, and gave it to other communist scums! By the way, the REAL communism cannot be attainable,because, I know, it would be so cool, but if people wouldn't get money for what they have worked, but they could go to shops, and get what they want free.IMPOSSIBLE
Maximithus 2 years ago
"Communist dictatorship totally ruined all Hungary"
So you believe a great man like Béla Kun deserved to be executed by Stalin"s NKVD thugs?
ss90ss444 2 years ago
Long live Bolshevism--Stalin will be remebered as the grave digger of the working class of the 20th century
fdoric6 2 years ago 2
Dude, this is just the sound of the naive longing for the freedom of the suppressed people from two supporters of the short-lived Paris Commune. What you said may all be historical facts, and I have no less scorn for those murderers in the name of communists, but do not disrespect those who did have good wills (albeit naively but aren't we all limited by our visions?).
LudwigZhi 2 years ago
Long live communism!
May communism prevail!
tony80862 2 years ago 4
Solidarity forever from Louisiana!
CajunCommie 2 years ago
et il a oublié Pol Pot
bzhseat 2 years ago
lol it was another socialist country to stop pol pot!
Lisbon1906 2 years ago
"This is the sound of death and killing, the music of the Gulag and the Killing Fields of Pol Pot"
No. It is the sound of freedom from the capitalist slavery and from the shackles the ruling elite has put on the ordinary people.
World needs a new Vladimir Lenin. New Lenin will arise and he will build world where everyone is equal.
ss90ss444 2 years ago 2
the only place commonisem worked is the Israeli Kibbutz
davisbone 2 years ago 2
Hail glorous Lenin, dear leader and protector of the Soviet people!
GKnight2020 2 years ago
Marx was the greatest Communist ever,and maybe in the future prachanda could be a good communist
lumbanraja2 2 years ago
why the fuck do they honour stalin in this........
ciaranfox2008 2 years ago
Trotsky Heeloween
Charles069 2 years ago 2
Vive le Communisme!
Es lebe der Kommunismus!
Long live Communism!
共产主义精神不朽！
tony80862 2 years ago
毛臘肉萬碎！
ilovekmt 2 years ago
I feel bad for Lenin because what happend to his brother Aleksandr Ulyanov. No wonder the poor guy was full of hate until the end in 1924.
ss90ss444 2 years ago
chinese communist party now turns out to be the biggest capitalist in the world!