The fundamental cause of the crisis is too much debt - resulting from the issue of bank credit as our money supply. Government issued debt-free money is the solution - it will keep the money supply stable while the banks deleverage and withdraw credit from circulation.
@barryinspace The fundamental cause of the crisis is government distortion of capitalism. They now have a disturbing history of bailouts, horribly low interest rates, Fannie and Freddy moral hazards, bad legislation, money printing, etc. ... Now you expect the government to solve the problem .... LMAO!!!! The best thing the government could do is roll back some of the depression era legislation they undid and then get out of the way and reduce taxes and spending.
-- What I see is MAria is SEXY ... she is calling you to fuck her ...
But House prices can not fall , If that happens ,, creditors who invested in USA real estate , will be broke. Chinese Japanese Saudis(they are dumb) they have OIL .
I more inclined to trust Ahmadinejad drunk after a bottle of jack daniels with a thousand nuclear missiles pointing at Israel than anything that Wall Street/City of London and the politicians say.
Lonski works for Moody's. Do not believe anything from anyone working for said company. They rated absolute junk as triple AAA for years. Moody's was a main cause to this Depression we are in.
This is heart of the matter. Moody's is a gov cartelized company. They rated mort backed securities as AAA and there was no competing ratings. Moodies is sanctioned by the gov.
The ratings agencies gave the bankers the confidence to buy mort backed securities b/c the bankers thought they were safe. It was entirely the GOVs fault not the bankers
Now that they know that 10-15% of the people who loose their jobs will loose their homes within 6 months-1 year it is becoming obvious that the housing market is still in free-fall. Alt-A and Option Arm mortgages are just starting to come due and with a 50-60% default rate it will be bad for years. The talking heads are grabbing tidbits of irrelevant info and data and putting a overweight spin on it. Nothing is bottoming and whe is does hit bottom it will stay there for many years.
The jobless here in SE Asia is 4% and the growth rate here in this part of the world is 400% higher and up than the USA! The USA like GM is simply mismanaged! Obama is very bad for the USA time will prove us correct!
How could there possibly be a recovery when more jobs are lost on a daily basis? Someone is lying through their corporate/Wall Street teeth at us. There will be NO recovery. You can't have a recovery with a service based economy coupled with heavy trade losses.
@joe80dman Apparently we can have a recovery, however, it is a stimulus based recovery. We really need a major pick-up in manufacturing and saving. Still, once the stimulus runs out because of a stronger inflation threat, then all bets are off. I just hope I've positioned myself well before that date.
@jeremyraybrown : Wall Street moguls are reluctant to move manufacturing back to the US from China. They're not about to surrender the large profit margins for America's middle class sake. I've positioned myself to sustain an economic catastrophe, but what about the "other guy"? I hope the current administration isn't concocting a crisis for an opportunity.
What John Lonski, Chief Economist of Moody's Investor Services miss is the wave of foreclosures that will hit in August 2009. The ALT-A problem, made of jumbo loans, 2nd homes, & investor purchases will hit big. This tsunami of foreclosures will drop values further, and cause banks to realize losses like never before, causing some of them to fully default. Credit loses will only increase, they have NOT peaked. Property values have not bottomed either, expect further erosion. You heard it here.
This is correct. CSMonitor, May 14: "Foreclosures hit new highs in April and more are expected in months ahead." Lonski strikes me as a naive cheerleader--a not entirely rare character on CNBC.
Why is almost everybody judging the "recovery" by the stock exchange index? It is driven by speculation and totally detachee from the real economy... Why do you think it is that volatile?
You are a wise person. The stock markets have been disconnected from the true economy for years. The stock market is to the economy as a Vegas Casino is to the Nevada economy. The markets are a manipulated casino whereby only the insiders actually win. The average joe investor is like a regular vegas gambler. Never knows when to quit and plays until he's broke. You can win in the markets but the odds are against you in the long term.
I am so tired of hearing the mainstream media saying, " It will be ok. Things will turn around 2010". They need to stop lying to themselves and admit things are really screwed up and won't get better anytime soon.
Read the press from the USA from the early 30's they wrote everything will be OK just like today! The USA is very sadly mismanaged as most of Asia is well managed!
I would trust the mafia over Wall Street regarding money mgmt. Asia is a rising star as are the BRICs. National unemployment is going to hit 10% either this year or early next year.
Wake up !! Go to work and find out that you no longer have a job !! ANALIZE THAT !!
mrbkrsmiley 5 months ago
Another idiotic display by Moody's.
jeremyraybrown 1 year ago
even worst in asia? hello smartass YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
MrEuropeuberalles 1 year ago
The fundamental cause of the crisis is too much debt - resulting from the issue of bank credit as our money supply. Government issued debt-free money is the solution - it will keep the money supply stable while the banks deleverage and withdraw credit from circulation.
barryinspace 2 years ago
@barryinspace The fundamental cause of the crisis is government distortion of capitalism. They now have a disturbing history of bailouts, horribly low interest rates, Fannie and Freddy moral hazards, bad legislation, money printing, etc. ... Now you expect the government to solve the problem .... LMAO!!!! The best thing the government could do is roll back some of the depression era legislation they undid and then get out of the way and reduce taxes and spending.
jeremyraybrown 1 year ago
-- What I see is MAria is SEXY ... she is calling you to fuck her ...
But House prices can not fall , If that happens ,, creditors who invested in USA real estate , will be broke. Chinese Japanese Saudis(they are dumb) they have OIL .
aviomaster 2 years ago
Oh and congratulations Chicago for coming last in the Olympic bid.
I never though I would see the day America literally implodes from the inside.
It is just one defeat after the other
Dandaniels1978 2 years ago
I more inclined to trust Ahmadinejad drunk after a bottle of jack daniels with a thousand nuclear missiles pointing at Israel than anything that Wall Street/City of London and the politicians say.
Both sides of the Atlantic
Dandaniels1978 2 years ago
It's comical watching the same people that caused this mess try to paint a rosey picture of how things are improving.
benzo771 2 years ago
Grow home sales? WTF? Let the home prices fall! Why can't Wall Street learn that?
smasila 2 years ago
Lonski works for Moody's. Do not believe anything from anyone working for said company. They rated absolute junk as triple AAA for years. Moody's was a main cause to this Depression we are in.
itillbeme 2 years ago 4
This is heart of the matter. Moody's is a gov cartelized company. They rated mort backed securities as AAA and there was no competing ratings. Moodies is sanctioned by the gov.
The ratings agencies gave the bankers the confidence to buy mort backed securities b/c the bankers thought they were safe. It was entirely the GOVs fault not the bankers
kotash2 2 years ago
@kotash2 Moody's is a joke. Only an imbecile would listen to them.
jeremyraybrown 1 year ago
Now that they know that 10-15% of the people who loose their jobs will loose their homes within 6 months-1 year it is becoming obvious that the housing market is still in free-fall. Alt-A and Option Arm mortgages are just starting to come due and with a 50-60% default rate it will be bad for years. The talking heads are grabbing tidbits of irrelevant info and data and putting a overweight spin on it. Nothing is bottoming and whe is does hit bottom it will stay there for many years.
taineasy 2 years ago 3
The jobless here in SE Asia is 4% and the growth rate here in this part of the world is 400% higher and up than the USA! The USA like GM is simply mismanaged! Obama is very bad for the USA time will prove us correct!
marcusstarr2000 2 years ago
In SE asia? 4%? 400%? You are absolutely full of shit dude.
ButterySexBiscuit 2 years ago
From SE ASIA: Madam what Planet are you on? Come to Asia and see for yourself the growing prosperity as the USA declines!
marcusstarr2000 2 years ago
How could there possibly be a recovery when more jobs are lost on a daily basis? Someone is lying through their corporate/Wall Street teeth at us. There will be NO recovery. You can't have a recovery with a service based economy coupled with heavy trade losses.
joe80dman 2 years ago 6
@joe80dman Apparently we can have a recovery, however, it is a stimulus based recovery. We really need a major pick-up in manufacturing and saving. Still, once the stimulus runs out because of a stronger inflation threat, then all bets are off. I just hope I've positioned myself well before that date.
jeremyraybrown 1 year ago
@jeremyraybrown : Wall Street moguls are reluctant to move manufacturing back to the US from China. They're not about to surrender the large profit margins for America's middle class sake. I've positioned myself to sustain an economic catastrophe, but what about the "other guy"? I hope the current administration isn't concocting a crisis for an opportunity.
joe80dman 1 year ago
What John Lonski, Chief Economist of Moody's Investor Services miss is the wave of foreclosures that will hit in August 2009. The ALT-A problem, made of jumbo loans, 2nd homes, & investor purchases will hit big. This tsunami of foreclosures will drop values further, and cause banks to realize losses like never before, causing some of them to fully default. Credit loses will only increase, they have NOT peaked. Property values have not bottomed either, expect further erosion. You heard it here.
REOGURU 2 years ago 7
This is correct. CSMonitor, May 14: "Foreclosures hit new highs in April and more are expected in months ahead." Lonski strikes me as a naive cheerleader--a not entirely rare character on CNBC.
59OPAL 2 years ago 3
Why is almost everybody judging the "recovery" by the stock exchange index? It is driven by speculation and totally detachee from the real economy... Why do you think it is that volatile?
ramusling 2 years ago
You are a wise person. The stock markets have been disconnected from the true economy for years. The stock market is to the economy as a Vegas Casino is to the Nevada economy. The markets are a manipulated casino whereby only the insiders actually win. The average joe investor is like a regular vegas gambler. Never knows when to quit and plays until he's broke. You can win in the markets but the odds are against you in the long term.
taineasy 2 years ago 2
I am so tired of hearing the mainstream media saying, " It will be ok. Things will turn around 2010". They need to stop lying to themselves and admit things are really screwed up and won't get better anytime soon.
Melville10 2 years ago 3
Read the press from the USA from the early 30's they wrote everything will be OK just like today! The USA is very sadly mismanaged as most of Asia is well managed!
marcusstarr2000 2 years ago
I would trust the mafia over Wall Street regarding money mgmt. Asia is a rising star as are the BRICs. National unemployment is going to hit 10% either this year or early next year.
Melville10 2 years ago
I thought gooks were good at math.
ButterySexBiscuit 2 years ago
At 6:15 roubini looks like he is gonna bitch slap him.
skyding8962 2 years ago 5
Hehehehe
Yes totally. :)
There where sparks and fire in roubinis eyes there.
Roubini is just so very good at explaining whats happening.
Peace
Magi
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magi55 2 years ago
That guy from Moodys has to be a NWO stooge.
buyred 2 years ago 4
Maybe he's on optimism opium.
Melville10 2 years ago 3
Someone kill the fag on the left.
Zeldovich 2 years ago 6
LMAO
skyding8962 2 years ago
Give Roubini and Schiff a week with the FED and you'll see recovery!
croemar 2 years ago 5