I just love the Macavity fight scene. There's so much aggression, but you can tell they're really not trying to hurt anybody because it's so graceful at the same time!
Cats is the best! I wanna see it again...the first time I saw it I didn't really get it because I was little and expecting more dialogue, I guess...anyhow, I want to see it again.
i love this song i use to watch this all the time when i was little and sing and dance along hahah. I had it on vcr then lost it but then i got it on DVD for easter!!!
hahahah at the end after bombalurina and demeter do there final pose look in the backround at jellylorum! she falls on her butt!! hahaha its sooo funny x
@CelticTears101 Oh yeah, you didn't know? It was called Old Possums Book for Pratical Cats, I think, and it was illustrated by Edward Gorey. I found it at an old store once and when I was like 9 tried to do a book report on it. For some reason the teacher wouldn't allow it. :)
@CelticTears101 yes. the entire show is t.s. eliot's poetry. now, i don't know if it's that andrew loyd webber took the poetry and put it to music (like it's word for word) or not, but yes, there is a book. it is called Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats, written in 1939. (according to wikipedia)
you start reading thins you CANT stop .Once ther was a little girl named Cecilia.She was a little 7 year old who got strangled and raped by a man =.If you dont post this to 15 other videos you will see CCecilia standing at the end of your bed with a knife and she will kill you
You have to do this by midnight or you will be dead i did not start this
i used to watch the recording my mom had of Cats when i was like 5 and had my mom fast forward through Macavity because he scared me, i watched this today and Macavity still creeps me out!
love this damn song! I saw them back in 96 I believe well months before they shut it down. Loves this musical purchased the tape cassette I plan on buying the DVD one of my first musicals/plays every seen. Fell in love at first site!
7:32 when Macavity and Munk are pulling her and then (alfonso?) just comes in and is all like "I'll take that!!" one question if anyone can answer it for me...So if Macavity and Demter had a "thing" r they still together and if not, then y did he try and take her away?
@Scream5201 well first off his name is alonzo. I did hear that they previosly had a 'thing' but he had a great scheme and demeter caught him so he tryed to kidnap her for ruining it
ya i thought it was Alonzo but my friend kept bugging me that it was Alfonso..heh...but ok ya thanks! One more question, a couple of people are saying that Demeter and Munkustrap r mates. R they? Just curious bcuz that would make things a whole lot clearer (i think i spelt that wrong :/)
Er idk lol i dont think they are. Munkustrap is like the 'Pretector' of the tribe. He keeps the younger kittens away from grizabelle and macavity. There was a time when i thought they where mates to. i guess ill have to look it up
@Scream5201 Macavity and Demeter probably had a thing, but he probably wanted to take her for ruining him plan, when Munkustrap and Macavity try to fight for Demeter, Alonzo comes in to take her away from Macavity and make her safe. And many believe that Demeter and Munkustrap are mates, because he shows more affection towards her than the other Queens and kittens. :) I hope that helped. :D
perhaps the most awsome evil villain ive ever seen and thats saying alot since ive seen alot of villains and like them great job ive favored this video and rated
whos voice? I am currently rehearsing cats with linda mae brewer who is the gorgeous women who sings the first line of this song!!! she is utterly amazing in everyway!
i thot maybe he did in the original show but he didnt for time reasons in the movie...like thy did with growl tigers last stand..but no, its the part i guess
I've heard of Cats but was never interested until I found out it the music was written by Webber. =D Now I'm VERY interested. xDD This scene is a bit creepy. o.O
My fave musical!! First got into it when i was 7 im now 17. When it was still on in London, i saw it at least 8 times!!! I still know all words to every song, plus all the dances! First time i went, i was wearing a hat. The cats was going around the audience and one of them hit my hat down. Best memory!! Love this musical sooooo much!
i was once in a bar in blackpool celebrating st georges day in the queens hotel showbar, and there was a dance troupe there only three of them, but they were ace...they were called feline fever... i recognised the bloke.. and i got talking to them in the bar... it turned out to be the rum tum tugger from this video, and two of the other cats!!
What a wonderful video! Cats is the first musical I ever saw, ages ago, as a child, and these clips evoke fond, nostalgic memories. How fond I was of this... divine! Thank You, poster.
To Najbrugge: I believe I accidentally downrated You instead of uprating. You have my sincerest apologies. If You tell me how, I'd be happy to rectify the error.
I learned how to dance like the two ladies! It was so fun, but it was hard to move my hips in a jerky motion. I'm so used to fluid dance. This scene is great!
this vids really good quality! makes it more scary...although when i went to see this macavity was in the audience jumpin out frm the shadows....shiver!!
Yes, but when I saw the show when I was about 6 or 7 (I can't remeber exactly becuse it was a vary long time ago sense I'm 22 now) I didn't get scared or have nightmeres like I did with Jacobe Marly when I was 6 (hated his voice just like fingernails on a chokboard for me).
Do they have this video on blu-ray?
CrazyLb2525 1 year ago
@CrazyLb2525
No but on dvd
chrissi2810 1 year ago
Demeter is so smart, she realised that Old Deutoronomy was a fake.
xTwilightSakurax 1 year ago
damn, those cats are sexy
mdrndrum 1 year ago
Dang, not only do these guys have to be able to sing and act, but they have to be strong to carry the other cats around like that!
12Ang122 1 year ago
Macavity used to scare me when I was little and my mom would tell me, "Go to bed or Macavity will eat you"! XD
sweetiegrl41 1 year ago 8
Loves it!
GastonianX 1 year ago
I just love the Macavity fight scene. There's so much aggression, but you can tell they're really not trying to hurt anybody because it's so graceful at the same time!
varietychick 1 year ago
okay survey which cat do you think is sexier mcavity or rum tum tugger
i say mcavity
TheMartainPrincess 1 year ago
ahh! the best musical in the universe . . . so amazing!!!! ;)
sandlover3 1 year ago
MACAVITY!! XD
xXmysterykitXx 1 year ago 2
Cats is the best! I wanna see it again...the first time I saw it I didn't really get it because I was little and expecting more dialogue, I guess...anyhow, I want to see it again.
rainbowmuppet 1 year ago 2
i read the poem of Macavity for a poety reading- was a bit too tempted to dress up as macavity., five inch long claws and all....
tapdancinglemur 1 year ago
Demeter and Munkustrap i love em
TheLuna5603 1 year ago 2
god,i love cats,demeter and bumbalirina (i think thats how her name's spelled...) are so sultry and sexy
TheEstablished1991 1 year ago 3
i love this song i use to watch this all the time when i was little and sing and dance along hahah. I had it on vcr then lost it but then i got it on DVD for easter!!!
gangstaboy878 1 year ago
hahahah at the end after bombalurina and demeter do there final pose look in the backround at jellylorum! she falls on her butt!! hahaha its sooo funny x
chloejoshmac 1 year ago 2
@chloejoshmac OMG I've never seen Jellylorum fall...that is brilliant...kudos to you for actually spotting that, lol!
loopylupin09 1 year ago
@loopylupin09 haha thankss :) xx
chloejoshmac 1 year ago
my aerobics teacher is in cats
missashley56 1 year ago
OMG i have this on DVD i went to see it when i was like 9 haa its so gd x
mIsSBeKa12 1 year ago 2
i want a pet macavity :)
tigermaniak 1 year ago
Macavity used to be my favorite in the book and then Andrew Llowd Webber turned him into Satan. Not cool.
phantompersian 1 year ago
@phantompersian there is a book?!?!?!?!?!?
CelticTears101 1 year ago
@CelticTears101 Oh yeah, you didn't know? It was called Old Possums Book for Pratical Cats, I think, and it was illustrated by Edward Gorey. I found it at an old store once and when I was like 9 tried to do a book report on it. For some reason the teacher wouldn't allow it. :)
phantompersian 1 year ago 2
@CelticTears101 yes. the entire show is t.s. eliot's poetry. now, i don't know if it's that andrew loyd webber took the poetry and put it to music (like it's word for word) or not, but yes, there is a book. it is called Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats, written in 1939. (according to wikipedia)
HippoPoopy 1 year ago
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you start reading thins you CANT stop .Once ther was a little girl named Cecilia.She was a little 7 year old who got strangled and raped by a man =.If you dont post this to 15 other videos you will see CCecilia standing at the end of your bed with a knife and she will kill you
You have to do this by midnight or you will be dead i did not start this
tcarpenter1985 1 year ago
Lol Macavity still scares the shit out of me at 0.34 :)
kottemedpizza 1 year ago
i used to watch the recording my mom had of Cats when i was like 5 and had my mom fast forward through Macavity because he scared me, i watched this today and Macavity still creeps me out!
XblackXfoxXfireX 1 year ago
I saw the andrew lloyd webber show new years eve - and there was this song. I loved it!:D
Thestralen 1 year ago
love this damn song! I saw them back in 96 I believe well months before they shut it down. Loves this musical purchased the tape cassette I plan on buying the DVD one of my first musicals/plays every seen. Fell in love at first site!
crit1227 1 year ago
7:32 when Macavity and Munk are pulling her and then (alfonso?) just comes in and is all like "I'll take that!!" one question if anyone can answer it for me...So if Macavity and Demter had a "thing" r they still together and if not, then y did he try and take her away?
Scream5201 2 years ago
@Scream5201 I don't think they had a thing. I think that he was trying to take her away because she realized that he wasn't Deuteronomy
theEVILtwin324 2 years ago
@Scream5201 well first off his name is alonzo. I did hear that they previosly had a 'thing' but he had a great scheme and demeter caught him so he tryed to kidnap her for ruining it
kojimin123 1 year ago
ya i thought it was Alonzo but my friend kept bugging me that it was Alfonso..heh...but ok ya thanks! One more question, a couple of people are saying that Demeter and Munkustrap r mates. R they? Just curious bcuz that would make things a whole lot clearer (i think i spelt that wrong :/)
Scream5201 1 year ago
Er idk lol i dont think they are. Munkustrap is like the 'Pretector' of the tribe. He keeps the younger kittens away from grizabelle and macavity. There was a time when i thought they where mates to. i guess ill have to look it up
kojimin123 1 year ago
@Scream5201 Macavity and Demeter probably had a thing, but he probably wanted to take her for ruining him plan, when Munkustrap and Macavity try to fight for Demeter, Alonzo comes in to take her away from Macavity and make her safe. And many believe that Demeter and Munkustrap are mates, because he shows more affection towards her than the other Queens and kittens. :) I hope that helped. :D
Rentheadnumber1 1 year ago
DUDE! his laugh sounds like side show bob! xD
Invaderphantomstar11 2 years ago 4
Epic fight! With EPIC music!
LuvItachiWeasal 2 years ago 15
perhaps the most awsome evil villain ive ever seen and thats saying alot since ive seen alot of villains and like them great job ive favored this video and rated
DragonlordRock862nd 2 years ago 2
have seen this musical live so many times! i love it!!!
pinkladieee1 2 years ago
hi!
i´m Laura and i´m Dancing Musical cats !!!
2701lala 2 years ago 2
I love it! And I love the voices from Aeva May and Rosemarie Ford.<3♥♥♥
ChiaraMarilera 2 years ago
Isn't Macavity Mungojerrie and RumpleTeazer? I have the older dvd not this one
Sinistra76 2 years ago
THAT FIGHT WAS CRAZYYYYY i wish it was mistofolees instead
MrSlywolf7 2 years ago
Is that Demeter and who? I have trouble telling them apart sometimes if they're not my favorites.
Sinistra76 2 years ago
It's Demeter and Bombalurina :) xx
darlingsweetidarling 2 years ago
i have buy this on dvd and its really a cool dvd de red one is cool
wendyrusch 2 years ago 2
I love Bombalurina.
Nobody sexy like her !!!
LegaMetallica 2 years ago
I LOVE THIS SONG AND MUSICAL
KirstieA2009 2 years ago
today i'm going to dancing in a theatre. i love this song
bochincheras 2 years ago
do they have this on dvd yet?
lovelust97 2 years ago
yes you can buy this on dvd ;-)
chrissi2810 2 years ago
thank u!
lovelust97 2 years ago
@chrissi2810 where
HMS1353 1 year ago
Great song! I love it very much! I have the video.
ChiaraMarilera 2 years ago 10
I just saw them today at the theater in chicago!
XxRawkstar14xx 2 years ago
i love them both singing together magnificent!!!!!!! and i love this song too=)
brokenheart9087 2 years ago
Ohhh! i do love this! it'[s my fave Webber musical! it is AMAZING to watch live! x
BillieM100 2 years ago
9:19
so lovely *.*
LadyNights66 2 years ago 4
Hahah, i just love the face she makes at 5:52
"oops, i forgot to start singing"
haha, lol
AnnaBella1013 2 years ago 2
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MeganIsSoAwesome 2 years ago
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they're both boning macavity
zachcow 2 years ago
i love this song i got to be Demeter in my theatres ptoduction of this. this was my fave
IAmSweenyTodd 2 years ago
Thanks!! this helped me memorize this song for my showcase.
ugmos2unite 2 years ago
en 1993 vi la obra cats en brodway pasaron 16 años y aún recuerdo cada pasaje .hay cosas que jamas se olvidan .
LAGARES66 2 years ago
my favorit cat is the rum tum tugger
XxhappydennisxX 2 years ago
Bombalurina is my favorit cat =)
PantsuGirl 2 years ago
when i watched this when i was lttle this part always scared the shit out of me! Macavity is awesome tho
imsweeneytodd 2 years ago 2
i went to see this live wen i was little, macavity TERRIFIED me
girlygirl752 2 years ago 3
Macavity looks like a Kabuki warrior.
evilmidget 2 years ago 5
omg how did I forget this song?!?! I LOVE IT!!!
PunkyPurplePandas 2 years ago
this is my FAVOURITE song i absolutley love it
ROBINxmoran 2 years ago 3
OhEmGee! This is like my favourite musical of all time!!!! =D
I Love it!!
Mr. mistoffelees is my favourite!
EvilDarkVampire 2 years ago 4
He's mine too!!
Bappelabs 2 years ago
omg mine 2!!!! We might do a play of Cats! I'm auditioning for Mr. Mistoffelees or the girl who sings this song. I don't her name
LizzieBorden9898 2 years ago
demeter is the gold one and bombalurina is the scarlet one
Lintriel 2 years ago
Best sdong in the Musical
thepurplequeen101 2 years ago
u know what! IT IS THEIR VOICE THEY RECORD IT IN THEIR STUDIO!!!! BECAUSE IT IS TO HARD TO SOUND GOOD WHILE DANCING!!!
jacqueline2013 2 years ago
for you it might be, but when you've trained at it for your whole life im sure it becomes easy after a while.
whoagrace79 2 years ago
yeah and it's here all makes the mistake this cat is veerle castalyn in this sequence and not the one singing with Elaine Paige in memory.
if you look good here you all will
see the difference :D
Miiiaaaaaaw.
musicatsable 2 years ago
Amazeing makeup!!!
pAnDaZ3012 2 years ago
jamima is my favourite cat, she's got such a cute face... and she sings so good^^
FreitagDer13teFan 2 years ago
Shame it's not really her voice.
ChaoticButterfly 2 years ago
not? whom is it?
FreitagDer13teFan 2 years ago
Jemima's voice was dubbed by Helen Massie, since the actress who actually played her had a thick accent.
ChaoticButterfly 2 years ago
actually her name s spelled Helen Massey. They have it spelt wrong in the credits on the video.
MeganIsSoAwesome 2 years ago
Ah, thank you. ^_^
ChaoticButterfly 2 years ago
whos voice? I am currently rehearsing cats with linda mae brewer who is the gorgeous women who sings the first line of this song!!! she is utterly amazing in everyway!
garethmason 2 years ago
Musical insupewrable, cuando estubo en Madrid, España.,
de una calidad tanto la musica, cantes y actores...
kruela43 2 years ago
Maravillos espectaculo musical, cuando estuboe en Madrid(España)
catantes y actores de una calidad insuperable..
kruela43 2 years ago
this is absolutely one of the best songs in this show.
i love the dancing, and the expressions of both of them.
MrBroadwayboy 2 years ago 2
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InternetExplorerGirl 2 years ago
thats always confused me to...
i thot maybe he did in the original show but he didnt for time reasons in the movie...like thy did with growl tigers last stand..but no, its the part i guess
MrBroadwayboy 2 years ago
idk, he really doesnt talk either
stringbass123 2 years ago
KingDylan234: They /are/ eye candy! I'm glad I'm not alone on that thought haha
lepancakesarestickeh 2 years ago
OMG they are such good singers!!! this is my favorite musical
AveneKlein 2 years ago 3
i read the Macavity poem in school and the lyrics of this song are the same as the poem! I LOVE CATS!
lizfan1page 2 years ago 2
I was Bombalurina... it was really fun
NotaKillJoy101 2 years ago
i was raaaaampleteizer
mayaf10 2 years ago
je l'ai fait hier au spectacle
lamiss340 2 years ago
idk y , but i like demeter bettter than bombalurina, o.O
guyguy512 2 years ago 2
who plays macavity?
Makingvidsgal 2 years ago
Bryn Walters
Sillyshev 2 years ago
Um, is it strange for me to think that those two girls are total eye candy? ;D
KingDylan234 2 years ago
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lepancakesarestickeh 2 years ago
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lepancakesarestickeh 2 years ago
Demeter and Bombalurina (The two singing cats) are very good for this part :P
Sillyshev 2 years ago 2
they are great i did the play cats once in theatre it was awesome
mayaf10 2 years ago
Who did you play?
AceLover3 2 years ago
I've heard of Cats but was never interested until I found out it the music was written by Webber. =D Now I'm VERY interested. xDD This scene is a bit creepy. o.O
ChocolateMochaSwirl 2 years ago
My fave musical!! First got into it when i was 7 im now 17. When it was still on in London, i saw it at least 8 times!!! I still know all words to every song, plus all the dances! First time i went, i was wearing a hat. The cats was going around the audience and one of them hit my hat down. Best memory!! Love this musical sooooo much!
mixiexxxx 2 years ago 4
same here!!! i saw them in london when i was a kid :) and Mr mistoffelees tried to sit on my lap :)
reenface 2 years ago
macavity scared the shit out of me as a kid
alibebz 2 years ago 11
i know! me too.
writerchick94 2 years ago 4
this is sssooo cool
sfiel 2 years ago 5
i love 7:02 to like 7:27 a lot
RedGum5 2 years ago 2
macavity is scary!! lol
xokymmixo 2 years ago 10
no cats is awsome i cryed when i saw it at 5 but now i think its awsome\
scarymovie715 2 years ago 7
I wish they'd restart cats up again in broadway. i want to see it
LifegivesUlemonz 2 years ago 15
Absolutely
BandNerd1994 2 years ago
Is Cats Scary? It looks scary! D:
CrazyAboutSims2 2 years ago 2
Well its dark and witty! But its amazing, really. You should go see it. I was freaked out by this part, it gave me the chills!
Mufasathegodlion 2 years ago 7
it has parts that can get you on edge, but this is just a small part of a great musical
BandNerd1994 2 years ago
Can someone please explain to me, are they saying Mungojerre and Griddlebone work for Macavity?
celticrimson 2 years ago 6
yeahh
NickeyNoodles 2 years ago
in essence yes, the cats work sepretly but macavity uses them to do his bidding as well
kahiohisu 2 years ago
Thanks for the replies guys! (:
celticrimson 2 years ago 2
it would be interesting if we could make a play of this on youtube
ninjafox1 2 years ago 2
i was once in a bar in blackpool celebrating st georges day in the queens hotel showbar, and there was a dance troupe there only three of them, but they were ace...they were called feline fever... i recognised the bloke.. and i got talking to them in the bar... it turned out to be the rum tum tugger from this video, and two of the other cats!!
bigjeffstar 2 years ago 3
I know what you mean, this is quite sexy, the whole thing is. If Rum Tum Tugger didn't seem gay I'd totally go for him though...
loonyluna1331 2 years ago
I have to say it, those girls are soooooooo hot
CEDB1221 2 years ago 2
i always felt dirty watching this scene when i was younger. lmao.
classicmold 2 years ago 4
i think the move at 5:48 looks like the funnest move ever. i love Cats!!! this song is the best!!!<3<3<3
curethesane33 2 years ago 3
Should I feel creepy by being totally turned on by Aeva May and Rosemarie Ford in catsuits? Those hip gyrations are starting to get to me :)
eiddezepope 2 years ago 6
where was this filmes? coz it looks like the norwich theater royal, coz of the floor and all of the scenary is the same.
Please reply if u no.
thanx
10thCullen 2 years ago
It was filmed at the Adelphi Theatre in London. The design of the floor and the scenary is the same in every production of CATS.
chrissi2810 2 years ago
the scenary is/was the same in nearly every theater.
limeFirefly 2 years ago
LOVES IT AHHA
janie0816 2 years ago
Rosemary ford looks great in this
nichic96 2 years ago
Bombi is smoking hawt~
DaughterxOfxBlaze 2 years ago
no not the fluffy cat! :(
Pawsomepup 2 years ago
The best broadway show ever!
I <3 Rum Tum Tugger!
Ratmanlover4life 2 years ago
plangahuni1 are taking about when she srews her face
playboy102345678 2 years ago
when I was little, this part terrified me and now i absolutely love it. XD (still wouldn't ever want to run into macavity though =P)
gwylliion 2 years ago
wow....... i havn't seen this yet. we're watching it in chior...cant w8 ta see the end!!
Sesshy208 2 years ago
Macavity frightens me. The make-up on his face... terrifies me. I love the song, just the face... *shudders*
But the song is amazing!
1fordiplomacy 2 years ago
Have you noticed the in one part of the song demeter makes a mistake lolz. . . i think the time is 5.52 . . . . i was pouncival in the show though
plangahuni1 2 years ago
She forgot to sing ^_^
thewylion 2 years ago 2
I played Demeter it was so much fun!
elphielover247 2 years ago
I love how much of a sultry song this is. Onw of my favs too ^^
AkatsukiLover666 2 years ago
HA. macavity's so full of himself
jaejaeno1 2 years ago 5
9:09-9:29 are those cats Munkus and Demeter?
Ligaene 2 years ago 2
yea they are
Emmabug411 2 years ago
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MeganIsSoAwesome 2 years ago
What a wonderful video! Cats is the first musical I ever saw, ages ago, as a child, and these clips evoke fond, nostalgic memories. How fond I was of this... divine! Thank You, poster.
To Najbrugge: I believe I accidentally downrated You instead of uprating. You have my sincerest apologies. If You tell me how, I'd be happy to rectify the error.
JustAnotherLawyer 2 years ago 2
Thankyou so much I've been looking ALL OVER for a vid of the fight!
EPIC.
AriaCloudrunner 2 years ago
I had to play the first girl in 8th grade her name is Demeter right
JasperHale687 2 years ago
my favorite cat is the 2nd girl that sings
43251ATKG 2 years ago 3
her name is bombalurina.
chrissi2810 2 years ago
oh thank you
43251ATKG 2 years ago 2
BAD KITTY BAD!! Where's my spray bottle... ^^
I luv this song, we had to sing it last year for chorus. Since it has a jazzy feel to it, I really liked it ^^
RachelKiss123 2 years ago
i think the bad kitty stole it
lolz ^_^
Emmabug411 2 years ago 2
I learned how to dance like the two ladies! It was so fun, but it was hard to move my hips in a jerky motion. I'm so used to fluid dance. This scene is great!
Mkitteh 2 years ago 3
Haha I used to closed my eyes when macavity came on
Paigers129 2 years ago
i don't get it ! "Deuteronomy" is already on the set when you still can see Macavity ALSO on the set !! euhm ... hello ??
Najbrugge 2 years ago 5
the whole sixth grade at our skool has 2 be in that play we are forced i might try out 4 Macavity lol
shane7519 2 years ago
macavity used to scare the hell out of me when i was younger but i'm fine now lol
NickeyNoodles 2 years ago 3
this vids really good quality! makes it more scary...although when i went to see this macavity was in the audience jumpin out frm the shadows....shiver!!
Xk8rsx 3 years ago
Macavity is goin to gimme nightmares for a while now. HES THAT SCARY
MacLovinluvsDinah 3 years ago
Hehe Michael Gruber makes a sexy kitty. xD
Dalthis555 3 years ago 4
ahh my fav part!!!!!!!
TheRealMermaidLucida 3 years ago 2
genial amo esa obra! les kedo maravillosa!
brenda00torres 3 years ago
fantastic quality!!! the song is awesome...
monkey101ml 3 years ago 2
great job! SO scary though!
xokatierosexo 3 years ago 3
Yes, but when I saw the show when I was about 6 or 7 (I can't remeber exactly becuse it was a vary long time ago sense I'm 22 now) I didn't get scared or have nightmeres like I did with Jacobe Marly when I was 6 (hated his voice just like fingernails on a chokboard for me).
allisonthecat 3 years ago 5