Thank you Cenk; more people need to make an effort to think for themselves and, as he does, really try to see things from as many perspectives as possible.
now, the other thing you are wrong about is the order of the events. so i'll put it down for you:
1)jews got non arabs land
2)the arabs invade just like i wrote last comment
3)Israel won the war and gain more land to make defensible borders between them and the arabs.
4)in 1967 Israel launched a preemptive strike on Egypt and Syria, Israel warned Jordan and the palestinians not to get involved in the war, buy they didn't listen and ended up losing land again . facts my friend, nothing biased
you are wrong on one thing, all of the land the jews got in 1948 were empty, no arab lived in the negev desert which is 40%, the jews lived there, and tel aviv and natanya and the other coast cities were around long before the holocaust, Tel Aviv is over 100 years old.
now in 1948 the arabs didn't say "Israel stole our land" they were saying we don't want a jewish state in the middle east, it's proven fact, go look for some of the arab videos from that time.
Israel has done so much in order to achieve peace what have the Palestinians done? Just look at the peace agreement proposals that the Palestinians (Arafat) have disagreed too... The problem is the Arab dignity. The Palestinians are afraid of what the Arab nations will think of them if they sign a peace agreement with the "Jews" and the "Zionists"!!!!
Israel is not in the same position as the US after WW2. Implying Israel is paranoid is wrong. Because the Palestinians teach kindergardeneres in schools to hate Jews. They elected a govt (Hamas) whose charter commands to "kill Jews". Recent poll came out showing 67% are against the two state solution. They don't even recognize ISrael's basic right to exist. thing is, with them there is not "peace." In this case "peace" is giving strategic ground to ppl who STILL INSIST ON KILLING YOU. Madness.
"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
Israel is a "paranoid state" Really? With Holocaust denial still widespread in the middle east (especially in Iran) and a region that denies Israel's basic right to exist. Yet you still insist Israel is paranoid when palestinian terrorist teach their children hatred of Jews, Israel and to perform mass suicide bombings to "rid the land of Jews". I think young turks are a bit misguided
"when the holocaust happened.... no one took them in"
BULLSHIT!!! Britain and the USA did not take them in? are you FUCKING kidding me? that is... simply factually wrong..... Einstein went to the US to escape persecution, for example; Turkey helped Jews escape; China, Canada..... And probably many others.... not to mention a lot of people from all over occupied Europe risked their lives to help the Jews escape from the Nazis.... Cenk... you must've been really sloppy in getting your info
@bbphnix FDR actually refused to allow a boat with Jew in it to take port in the U.S. That boat had to go back to Europe and obviously those Jews were killed by the Nazis
Well sorry, but Israel has been there just as long as anyone else has. Let me explain. Since 1312 B.C. the Jews that have lived there were directly from Avraham and Yitzack (Abraham and Isaac). The muslims that lived there were from Ishmael. If you were to look at it politically, they were 100% equal, and one was not before the other. Currently, there is a parallel. In 1948 both Israel and Jordan were created. If you want to call Jordan Palestine fine, but hey have their piece of the land.
I dont understand...When the war finished why didn't they go back to there homes. The War was over!!!!!! It is because of the Zionist movement that wanted to take over the land.
it may not hate jews like classic jew haters do, but they will "find" a "reasonable" arguement against israel and the jews who support israel.
it's anti semitic, make no pretense, if it were up to the "tyt" type of people, jews would have stayed forever separated and all over the world, preferably with racist laws.
@haroos So, being against the state of Israel makes you antisemitic automatically? Consider for once that there are a large group of jews who don't agree with the zionist policies and don't use antisemitism and the holocaust as a cynical cloak of innocence and excuse for their horrible actions.
@haroos Shooting rockets at someone shouldn't happen, of course, everyone agrees on that. But the victim of all this mess is NOT Israel and the Jewish people. They brought this mess to themselves for the biggest part, and the ultimate victims are the poor palestinian people who have to wait in line at 4 am in the morning to go to work or who don't have access to water and food and who don't give a shit about hamas and just want to live their lives as human beings, not animals.
@haroos Ok, I confused the West Bank with Gaza, I'm sorry. I forgot they illegaly locked them in, so assuming that the economy was florishing in some kind of way and people could work was foolish of me. Isn't it logical, if you corner people, put a wall around them and control everything that goes in and out that they panic and maybe elect even an extremist party like Hamas? Desperation can be dangerous.
I will conclude by say that I like this program: it is a reasonably rare one where criticisms of Israel are not based on anti-semitism. Bias and misinformation, perhaps, but those can be fixed and are often not the fault of the commentator.
Also, Israel did not invade Gaza preemptively. They did it after _thousands_ of rockets. And they don't swing their machetes, they stab precisely. Occasionally Hamas puts a human in the way.
And yes, Israel's invasion breeds dislike. This is an unfortunate consequence of self defense. The alternative is thousands of rockets.
Also, I should mention that as an Israel supporter, I am also a supporter of the Palestinian people. The Palestinian government is not.
You are wrong to suggest that Israel drove Palestinians from their homes. This is not the case. The mass Palestinian exodus was sparked by a war that the _arabs_ started, because that war terrorized the Palestinians. Also, gaining land as a result of war is a standard procedure. Of all the countries that have annexed or otherwise occupied the Palestinian territories, _only_ Israel has offered independence.
It's not without a reason that israelis choose just a random area without people there, israelis have been in this land for years. Looks past the bible if you don't believe in it, we're still there. Every time banished and coming back, but still there. This is our land as promised by the bible, so obviously we would want it.
how did a white attrocity and war crime become the Palestinian issue? thats what i wanna know? i dont wann hear aout their paranoia, ect. I wanna know, how do you move in an pull the same shit the dutch boers pulled down in South Africa?
Israel is swinging the machete in someone elses house, because they were shooting rockets from their "house". Lebanon shot 200 rockets a day at one point, Gaza fired of 60 on Christmas Eve, YOU IGNORANT RETARD.
cenk, i love the young turks, and i follow it almost religiously. however, on Israel, i disagree with you. i dont love some of what they do, but i think you r to hard on them. as a proud Israeli-American Jew, i can't condemn the state
Paranoid???? Paranoia is when you are UNREASONABLY afraid of something. You contradict yourself you moron. You state how the arabs attacked once, then again. For the record, the Arabs tried to finish Hitler's dream six (6) times in a row. And you still call the Israelis "paranoid"? Then you quote a nut like Norman Finkelstein and try to make yourself sound like the voice of reason? Cenk, you are a closet anti-Semite. You rant about Jews and Israel while stating you're "pro-Israel"? RU serious?
@s0mersnoob Cenk Uygur is a Turkish Arab. You can get more on him on Wikipedia. He is one of the harshest critics of Israel in the media. He currently works for MSNBC.
One of my ancestors lived in France 10000+ years ago, so I have the right to expel all French people from their own land, slaughter them, steal their properties and take their land!!
This is the absurd logic of anyone, like you, who says that Jewish people have the right to take Palestinian land.
@Mrbobab If it is written in the Old Testament that one of your ancestors lived in France 100000 years ago and that France belongs to him, than I think it belongs to him.
@cpeigney94 its like if native americans could some how conquer 88 percent of america and evry body else lived on an indian reservation...except it would make more sense
Turkey is worried about Israel while they're abusing kurds, and annihilated armenians! Turkey is a backwards, trashy little nation and they have no business tellin Israel a thing!
LOL "you can make a deal"... they 'will take it out of the charter" - when did hamas honor any of their deals? did they honor deals with their "brothers" fatah? NO..what about when Saudi Arabia tried to mediate? NO what about when Egypt tried? NO.. .so who is there to make a deal with? The guy himself called them fantatical.. and then asks Israel to make a deal with ...fanatics? lol yes that will work out well...
flaws in this video fail to mention the historical and archeological evidence of Jewish life in Israel. Not to mention the continued Jewish presence and Biblical attachment to the land
British Mandate had ruled the region, divided the ground states we know today as Syria,Lebanon,Iraq etc.
UN divided the land into Arab and Jewish state. On the declaration of the Jewish state,Arab armies attacked Israel. Syria,Egypt,Lebanon,Jordan and Palestinians.
Now they cry that they lost all the wars they are forced Israel since 48.
And let's mention the deal that Barak offered Arafat, and he would not accept a deal that actually gives him what the Arabs are demanding today.
Israel invaded all of those countries. Stop trying to act like it's the otherway around. Jews and Arabs have lived side by side in Palestine peacefully until the Zionism came around. Israel NEVER existed until the UN wanted to make it a state. A "fake" state.
Its not a debate its just simply me pointing out how wrong you are.
The West Bank Legally belongs to the Palestinians, maybe go read up on Res 181 and 242.
And ofcourse its a matter of the law, the whole world is against you when it comes to your building of settlements, without Americans veto your country would of been under UN sanctions years ago. Go check the vote numbers at the UN website yourself.
And while i dont doubt your schools teach good maths ect your history is pathetic.
@chrisdef15 Excuse me if I do not respect the UN resolutions. His Human Rights Council, sitting some countries, which need to be judged for war crimes.
Organization in which a state which calls for the destruction of state and received applause properly.
Decisions of the British Mandate before the establishment of the League of Nations established the State: Jews the right to settlement in Eretz Israel, including Judea and Samaria
As has been pointed out to you the British Mandate and the UN are nothing the same. The British promised things they couldnt give to both sides, thats there fault not the Palestinians. The UN resolutions are all that matter.
And on the racism i agree some are racist, but not all, and that is beside the point.
Its got nothing to do with the jews just "living there" its the fact the land is run by Israeli's with soldiers protecting them. You cant just move into the Arab state, kick people out of there homes with army protection, bulldoze crops, build jewish only roads ect. That just ridiculous to compare that with Arabs living completely withing the Law in Israel.
No one learns about these things in our schools, get it out of your mind.
You call me biased, and you believe in bodies sponsored by the anti-Israeli organizations.
So who is prejudice?
After all, I know the area, things that you specify are unfounded, then you bring me "evidence" of a liberal and a Palestinian, and that's what you think will change my mind?
So all third world countries are anti semetic? Paranoid.
The UN didnt help Hezbollah do anything, and the only people claiming they help hide weapons are the biased IDF, ive never ever read any proof from independent sources or even the US. Paranoid.
The UN does/did complain about Russia just as they did with the US. Hard to do anything about someone with veto powers though. paranoid.
youre really saying there isn't a majority of muslim/ Third World countries against Israel?
you're blind!
Saying that the UN didn't helped Hezbollah doesn't make it true,it's a known fact back in 2006 their soldiers, stationed on the Lebanese, helped Hezbollah!
There are many individual reports, the problem is that the UN prefers to ignore them.
Why? That there is evidence disprove the Golston report . And it's not good for them that Israel is not guilty.
First 3rd world/muslim countries dont make up the majority or the UN.
Second why would 3rd world countries other then muslim ones have a problem with Israel based on any biased reasons? They dont its simply coz what Israel does it wrong.
How did the UN help Hezbollah?
What individual reports? As i said im sure the US would complain if that was right but its not.
Absolutely there were people there but they weren't driven from there. Land was bought and the rest that was owned by the Ottoman Empire and that was sold too. Lets not forget the 1948 war, they left their homes and they were SURE that they were coming back. Unforunaetly - for them - Israel won.
this guy is delusional. israel is not "swinging machetes" at palestinian kids. thats what the palestinans are doing to israel with their rockets aimed at civillian areas. and israel only attacks milittary targets when needed and when their are terrorists stockpiling weapons for future use on israel or something like that. and if some civillians get killed unintentionally well then that is unfortunate but thats war. you can never be 100% accurate. this guy is either an uneducated moron or biased
i never said i wasnt biased. but im not the one posting a video on youtube with the title "consider the israeli perspective" and then proceed to bash israel in the same video. its kind of stupid, really. and hypocrytical. maybe he just wanted to get more views.
so you agree with me that this guy is just a stupid leftist terrorist syphathizer who is attempting to hide behind the guise of a unbiased open minded polical commentator. hes not very good at trying to be unbiased though. he should change the title at least. but then again hes a young turk. didnt expect anything more sophisticated
i see both sides of this war, i understand why israelis are so angry at the palestineans, palestine attacked israel first and israel went apeshit thinking another holocaust was going to happen, and palestine has gotten their land stolen and their people killed brutally, even women and little kids
Jordan is 80% Palestinian, they already have a state. The Hashemites were brought in from Arabia by thr Brits as a thanx for their support. They want two states. Jews are 67% of the population if including the west bank and arab birth rates are falling while jewish are rising. Not to mention jewish immigration and arab emmigration. If the Israelis are smart they'll just wait it out.
I cant believe he used Norman finkleshit as an example of an anti-israel jew. The man is as antisemitic as you can get, and has been involved in holocaust denial
Israel were not taken in by anyone because they had formerly been ejected from almost every country because what you see them doing in the Gaza strip they have excercised everywhere else before this.., read their fucking Talmud and you will understand why they have been ejected from everywhere else.., they are a disgusting cancer to this planet! They can be the chosen of children of their God but ya see I dont adhere to their God who the rest of us commonly know as Satan!
I have read the Talmud and I still have no idea what you're talking about. Also you shouldn't overstate its significance; the Torah is the Law, the Talmud is tradition that's not even recognized by every Jew. Tell me one thing the Jews have ever done wrong and can give you something they've done for humanity. What did they do to get ejected besides of course just trying to live cause I know how much you hate that.
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this comment is for the idiot talking in the video.
get yourself educated. Israel and Jews want peace! unfortunately, the religious nut cases don't. the civilians harmed are just collateral damage . and yes, it is acceptable!
By the way, I'm curious to know if this guy is really serious about negotiating with a guy that breaks into his house, or in this case, someone who shoots through his window (like the Hamas rockets being shot into Israel). Would he really not shoot back? (He's probably never touched a gun in his life, though.)
The Anti-Semetic Hamas charter of which this guys speaks is taught in the schools of Hamas (yes- Hamas run and funded schools). Of course that is no reason to kill all the children, but certainly that plus the fact that rockets are being fired from the school rooves justifies Israel's military in taking action against hostile militants killing Jewish civilians.
@symbolmk that is not true; during the holocaust a lot of coutnries offered sanctuary to the Jews; Turkey, China, Canada, Britain, the US and the list goes on.... so... WTF? WTF are you and Cenk talking about?
Norman Finkelstien doesnt represent anybody but himself. You totally forgot the one million Jews displaced from Arab countries. The Muslim states threw the Jews out without their posessions. The Jewish Refugees outnumbered the Arab Refugees. The difference being that Israel accepted the Jewish Refugees. And the Arab States have kept the Arab Refugees in limbo. They dont show love for their own Arab brothers, just hatred for Israel
Its time for the United Nations to shed its impotency and impose tough sanctions on Israel. That would be the least the U.N. could do after sitting silently for years through a peace process that Israel has used as a cover for ethnic cleansing and theft of Palestinian land.
America and NATO bombed Serbia because of its intransigence; it should now do the same to Israel, starting with the destruction of illegal settlements and roads.
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long life israel as i think these jews never finished by any 1, every 1 tried hard accept muslims,Hourus, Babloniyan persians n romans many times attacked on jews,n in 2nd world war almost all Europains wre against jews,n killed 1000s of jews,but they r still exist every corner of world,now cristons r in the favour of israel,but actually dey r puthing jews togather in Israel if cristons Drops atom bomb on dem then all jews will be finished very esly from the world,ya its new world order
A Jewish State for sixty years means it will last forever?
The Normans conquered Jerusalem in 1099, Saladin took it back in 1187, eighty-eight years later. Then in another generation, the Europeans were driven back into the Mediterranean.
What if your neighbours house had a missile launch field on their backyard, launching daily rockets towards your house, would you go in their house and swing the machette?
What if "your" house is actually their farm that you stole? Would you still swing the machete at the people next door who's land you stole? Sounds like Israelis have the mindset of a criminal.
I wonder if there is any public support for a gypsy (roma) homeland. They were/are still subjected to frequent purges and discrimination. they too were devasted by the concentration camps.
flyingdrake, u need to learn a thing or two about gypsies. They would never want a homeland, because it would go against everything they believe in. Judith Oakely wrote a pretty good book about them, maybe u should read it...
I like the comment before when you said, Israels decisions are not for all Jews
But you seem to be making an excuse for them saying you can understand them. I frankly can't. Jeremiah Wright was spot on. Israel is a terrorist state. I am not saying Jews are. There is a difference
If they have had that problem through anti-semitism, they should know better than to slaughter Palestines. The fact that you want a home doesn't give you the right to pursue apartheid against Arabs
Again not all Israelis are killing Palestinians. Just as not all Palestinians are killing Israelis.
The area has been fighting for centuries where each group of people keep escalating hostilities.
ybaron123 love thy enemy as your friend. I've found that even when people act hostile to you I did not once treat them no different then my friends. Afterward those people dropped the harassment ect and derogatory generalization of my country.
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you want perment peace throw out every fucking dirty arab out of israel and the so called "occupied" territories. this is jewish territory given by G-d! there is no such thing as a palestinian and there is no such thing as a jordainian. jordan belongs rightfully to Israel. give me back my land. we will eventually throw you out. that is a promise!
The promise was the land given by God belongs to the Jews, that is if you believe in the bible.(muslims don't)
What you don't know is that the Arabs there as well as the afro Jews are of the same ancestors. They were only converted to Islam.(Read about the Sephardi)
These europeans that have settled there just because they are Judaist (Ashkenazi) have succeded in unsettling the region.
The only way to bring peace is to end illegal settlement and create Palestine a state. It is that Simple
not ture arabian jews still live in jersulam 15k jews live in yeman some othere live in iran ur jews eu jew are not arab jews here is the diffrence they took jewsh reilgion there not from arabia here is the diffrence so the do not have claim over the land.
i cant believe ppl like u still exist...i dont give a fuck what the bible or the koran says..land belongs to jews wow what a joke...i dont believe in any scripture..the talmud also says that jews can rape and murder gentiles and its not a sin shud i believe in that too and give myself to a homosexual jew or a female jew sex addict. get REAL .... no land belongs to no one if some 4000 year old book says so...stupid christians and jews and muslims...
I dont care what muhammed did or what the koran says. I dont care what the Talmud or the Tourah says. This is silly. You are blaming or worse if you are an Israeli, actually supporting apartheid. Palestinians are moslems, ok fine its their religion but if they were christians would the world be more responsive and do justice, I guess yes which means that we still havent humanized. And please dont pull the insulting gear on any religion, your nickname says all about your petty beliefs
\You assume that all of the Arabs ARE Muslims. That is not true.
Until you get that fact straight there is no use for you to debate.
If you do not know that, then certainly you have missed so many other facts and figures and stats. You are using lingo which is so borrowed from other sources which is why I doubt you even know the deep issues here. As for Arab Christians in Israel, their lives have been made a living hell in Bethlehem by MUSLIMS!
Man the fact that you blame everything on Moslems and Islam is pathetic. You hate them so much stop it. I have many Moslem friends and they HUMANS. Back to history, it is only in the Al Ummayad Dynasty when the Jews were persecuted by Muslims following the Caliph apart from that no Islamic rule did that unlike the eastern europeans. Your theory of land belonging to Jews is preposterous. The real owners of that lands were not ASHKENAZIS. Do NOT REPLY TO THIS I CANT TOLERATE HATERS
Well the fact that you spread hate for a religion without any knowledge about it shows the kind of intolerant attitude you have.
I am not saying that anyone should be "WIPED OFF" the map. Jews and Muslims are humans. Read history, you are right eastern europe did and still has its anti semitic attitude towards the Jews but at the same time Muslims DID NOT. I am in full support of a Jewish homeland but to say that Palestine was an empty land before ISRAEL is preposterous. I am student of History
muslims are wiped off...do u suck dicks all the time looser...U WANT TO WIPE MUSLIMS OFF THE MAP do u even know how many islamic states are there and one of them is a nuclear power
as for the Holocaust was a consequence for not moving back to Israel in 1920's
would you say they were complacent?
THat is NOT exactlyh the same as "fault"
semantics can be a dangerous and delicate act to balance--
Jews were exiled in the year 70 of the CE and the Roman Emperor renamed the land "syria-palestina" and the "syria' was dropped--and THEN--"palestine" stuck--but NEVER as a "nation"
not until 48 when Israel RECLAIMED a LAND which IS GOD'S given to the JEWS!
WHERE in the HELL did you get that information??????????????? I would like to know. Seriously--- I want to KNOW where you "got" that "information" The LAND Does belong to ISRAEL-------- AND----------- at 2:32 in this video--- he talks about that land and the people and such--- the "palestinians" and all --the Arabs NEVER called themselves that unitl AFTER 1967 when ISRAEL won the war whcih won back Jerusalem There will be no peace until Messiah comes. --HE WILL COME
The UN has confirmed that the Gaza School hit by the Israelis was used as a location to fire rockets. There are confirmations that Hamas killed Palestinians if they tried to flee. I guess it's no big deal for Arabs to murder Arabs. It's a big deal if a Jew kills an Arab. Jews in Israel will never be Dhimmis again, ever. Arabs in control of Israel means a new hellhole. No medical patents, no research, no technological breakthroughs. Just Arabs killing Arabs after they kill al the Jews.
Yeah, where is this "confirmation"? why didn't Israel let journalists in to Gaza in the aftermath to try and get some of what happened according to the Gazans? What were you hiding?
The Zionist so-called World Jewish Congress declared war on the country of Germany knowing that it would affect their Jewish brothers residing in that country. When others tried to help them escape to other countries, the Zionist movement took actions which caused those countries to lock their doors (read more in the books, Perfidy and Min Hametzer). [Due to] Zionist influence five ships of Jewish refugees from Germany arriving in the [US] were turned back to the gas chambers. Ibid 2/2
A Spanish judge has instituted a judicial inquiry against seven Israeli political and military personalities on suspicion of war crimes and crimes against humanity. The case: the 2002 dropping of a one ton bomb on the home of Hamas leader Salah Shehade. Apart from the intended victim, 14 people, most of them children, were killed...
The Daily Express (London) published an article on March 24, 1933 announcing that the Jews had already launched their boycott against Germany and described a forthcoming "holy war". The Express urged Jews everywhere to boycott German goods and demonstrate against German economic interests. Site Jews against Zionism
While he may look like an Arab, his last name reveals that his ancestors came from central Asia. And they are still occupying Kurdish and Armenian land. At one point, for a really long time, they occupied Israel, too. Guess what Young turk? The passage of time will not make the people of Israel forget about the land of Israel any less than Kurds will forget that their home was stolen.
The Jews were given Israel! The problem is Israeli greed with their illegal occupation of their neighbours land and their unrelenting hate and aggression against the Palestinian people.
Really, who "gave" Jews Israel? England, UN, United States ? England did everything to prevent Jewish immigration. When Jews were caught they were sent back to concentration camps in Europe ? Americans refused to sell weapons to the new nation. And UN never expected Israel to survive that's why its empty gestures were never followed up by any action to protect the native Jewish population or Mizrahi, Sefardi Jews, or Holocaust Survivors.
The rest of your post is not even worthy of a reply.
The League of Nations had given the mandate to the UK to govern the area. The Nazi's had financed the move of Jews to Palestine. The world has allowed Israel to flourish and Palestine to die. The Israeli state has treated Palestine as a ghetto and is still stopping food, water, medicine and other relief from entering Palestine. You are rewriting history to justify your injustices and to keep the annexed land contrary to international law. Stop feeling so sorry for yourselves and think of others
I don't know who you think I am. But I am certainly not feeling sorry for myself. No reason to. But I know who you are, a liar. There's absolutely NO evidence of Nazi financing Jewish immigration. You should know, you're a NAZI.
There is ample evidence, even as laste as '44. And J. Fest is one of the sources, and he is certainly not a fan of the Nazis, and neither am I. And you are feeling sorry for yourself and Israel.
Zionism was supported by the SS, Gestapo. Hitler himself ...In the 1930s, in cooperation with the Germans Zionists organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. ... 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized Kibbutz training camps over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of Israel. Visit Jews gaainst Zionism online
Britain did indeed attempt to stop Jewish emigration to palestine, as was its duty. But aggresively Jews continued to arrive and conducted an Hamas/PLO type of insurgency war and drove the British out. Then they drove the Palestinians out. Then they plotted with France and Britain re: the Suez crisis etc...
but israel knows that the only solution is the 2 states solution. its the hamas who doesnt.
8 years they keep sending missiles. in 2005 we went out of gaza. but hamas kept the missiles on. we went out because we want 2 states solution. the whole world is ignoring the fact that they sending missiles on us.
Let us be fair. The world condemns Hamas. But with Israel's aggression, as evidenced in the Lebanon, we see a pattern to Israel's illegal action in occupying neighbouring land. The 8 years of crude mortars and bombs killed 20; Isarel in 3 weeks has killed over 1100, and wounded 5,000+ and mentally damaged tens of thousands. Even the UN was not spared. And with Holocaust day coming up you will be lamenting your dead; lament all victims of genocide and state sanctioned violence.
Thank you Cenk; more people need to make an effort to think for themselves and, as he does, really try to see things from as many perspectives as possible.
lb1770 2 weeks ago
now, the other thing you are wrong about is the order of the events. so i'll put it down for you:
1)jews got non arabs land
2)the arabs invade just like i wrote last comment
3)Israel won the war and gain more land to make defensible borders between them and the arabs.
4)in 1967 Israel launched a preemptive strike on Egypt and Syria, Israel warned Jordan and the palestinians not to get involved in the war, buy they didn't listen and ended up losing land again . facts my friend, nothing biased
tttBig 3 weeks ago
you are wrong on one thing, all of the land the jews got in 1948 were empty, no arab lived in the negev desert which is 40%, the jews lived there, and tel aviv and natanya and the other coast cities were around long before the holocaust, Tel Aviv is over 100 years old.
now in 1948 the arabs didn't say "Israel stole our land" they were saying we don't want a jewish state in the middle east, it's proven fact, go look for some of the arab videos from that time.
tttBig 3 weeks ago
Israel has done so much in order to achieve peace what have the Palestinians done? Just look at the peace agreement proposals that the Palestinians (Arafat) have disagreed too... The problem is the Arab dignity. The Palestinians are afraid of what the Arab nations will think of them if they sign a peace agreement with the "Jews" and the "Zionists"!!!!
noam6621 4 months ago 3
This guy is super reasonable. I like him a lot. And I am an ardent supporter of Israel. I would love to have a debate with him!
synergy0530 4 months ago
Well said, Cenk!!! You are awesome!!! Fantastic message.
latinojuan 4 months ago 2
he gives isreal to much credit ...
fallenempireoverdrve 6 months ago
Israel is not in the same position as the US after WW2. Implying Israel is paranoid is wrong. Because the Palestinians teach kindergardeneres in schools to hate Jews. They elected a govt (Hamas) whose charter commands to "kill Jews". Recent poll came out showing 67% are against the two state solution. They don't even recognize ISrael's basic right to exist. thing is, with them there is not "peace." In this case "peace" is giving strategic ground to ppl who STILL INSIST ON KILLING YOU. Madness.
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"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
David Ben Gurion First Israeli Prime Minister
shadowofears 6 months ago
Israel is a "paranoid state" Really? With Holocaust denial still widespread in the middle east (especially in Iran) and a region that denies Israel's basic right to exist. Yet you still insist Israel is paranoid when palestinian terrorist teach their children hatred of Jews, Israel and to perform mass suicide bombings to "rid the land of Jews". I think young turks are a bit misguided
flight2929 8 months ago
Okay, I've considered the Israeli perspective.
The occupation is still a crime against humanity.
00maharum00ma 8 months ago
"when the holocaust happened.... no one took them in"
BULLSHIT!!! Britain and the USA did not take them in? are you FUCKING kidding me? that is... simply factually wrong..... Einstein went to the US to escape persecution, for example; Turkey helped Jews escape; China, Canada..... And probably many others.... not to mention a lot of people from all over occupied Europe risked their lives to help the Jews escape from the Nazis.... Cenk... you must've been really sloppy in getting your info
bbphnix 8 months ago
@bbphnix FDR actually refused to allow a boat with Jew in it to take port in the U.S. That boat had to go back to Europe and obviously those Jews were killed by the Nazis
issagc 5 months ago
@issagc really?
bbphnix 5 months ago
@bbphnix yup really. I don't remember the story very well but he really did it.
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StrikeTsunami 8 months ago
I swear to God Cenk should be the president of the world.
LMA629 9 months ago
Well sorry, but Israel has been there just as long as anyone else has. Let me explain. Since 1312 B.C. the Jews that have lived there were directly from Avraham and Yitzack (Abraham and Isaac). The muslims that lived there were from Ishmael. If you were to look at it politically, they were 100% equal, and one was not before the other. Currently, there is a parallel. In 1948 both Israel and Jordan were created. If you want to call Jordan Palestine fine, but hey have their piece of the land.
qfhd766b 11 months ago
I dont understand...When the war finished why didn't they go back to there homes. The War was over!!!!!! It is because of the Zionist movement that wanted to take over the land.
anff 11 months ago
tyt is a purely antisemitic group.
it may not hate jews like classic jew haters do, but they will "find" a "reasonable" arguement against israel and the jews who support israel.
it's anti semitic, make no pretense, if it were up to the "tyt" type of people, jews would have stayed forever separated and all over the world, preferably with racist laws.
haroos 11 months ago
@haroos So, being against the state of Israel makes you antisemitic automatically? Consider for once that there are a large group of jews who don't agree with the zionist policies and don't use antisemitism and the holocaust as a cynical cloak of innocence and excuse for their horrible actions.
thatsmyrail 11 months ago
@thatsmyrail it's all about the context, other wise it's anti semitic.
if the hamas launches rockets at israel and israel responds, who are you (or anyone) to condemn israel for it ?
if you still do, then you choosing to blame israel regardless of facts.
basically you choose to descriminate israel, and it is definitly anti semitism.
haroos 11 months ago
@haroos Shooting rockets at someone shouldn't happen, of course, everyone agrees on that. But the victim of all this mess is NOT Israel and the Jewish people. They brought this mess to themselves for the biggest part, and the ultimate victims are the poor palestinian people who have to wait in line at 4 am in the morning to go to work or who don't have access to water and food and who don't give a shit about hamas and just want to live their lives as human beings, not animals.
thatsmyrail 11 months ago
@thatsmyrail so shooting at israel is wrong, but israel reacting is wrong.
strange logic ...
btw, in GAZA there is no "4 am in line", simply because they don't come to work in israel (because of their choice to use terror).
in short, when you confuse issues it's either because you don't know the materials, or because you choose to confuse the issue.
either way, don't preach to israel, when you don't know or don't care to know the facts.
haroos 11 months ago
@haroos Ok, I confused the West Bank with Gaza, I'm sorry. I forgot they illegaly locked them in, so assuming that the economy was florishing in some kind of way and people could work was foolish of me. Isn't it logical, if you corner people, put a wall around them and control everything that goes in and out that they panic and maybe elect even an extremist party like Hamas? Desperation can be dangerous.
thatsmyrail 11 months ago
@thatsmyrail i'm sorry, you are confusing history with hysteria.
fact 1 - israel withdrew from gaza with un and the entire international community supporting them.
fact 2 - pa controled gaza, the hamas overtook it by force and with killing dozens or their own peopls, as well as injuring hundrets more.
(remember, of their own people.)
fact 3- the hamas doesn't recognize oslo accords or israel.
what rights does the hamas have, or gazans in light of that ?
haroos 11 months ago
I will conclude by say that I like this program: it is a reasonably rare one where criticisms of Israel are not based on anti-semitism. Bias and misinformation, perhaps, but those can be fixed and are often not the fault of the commentator.
avielMenter 1 year ago
Also, Israel did not invade Gaza preemptively. They did it after _thousands_ of rockets. And they don't swing their machetes, they stab precisely. Occasionally Hamas puts a human in the way.
And yes, Israel's invasion breeds dislike. This is an unfortunate consequence of self defense. The alternative is thousands of rockets.
Also, I should mention that as an Israel supporter, I am also a supporter of the Palestinian people. The Palestinian government is not.
avielMenter 1 year ago
You are wrong to suggest that Israel drove Palestinians from their homes. This is not the case. The mass Palestinian exodus was sparked by a war that the _arabs_ started, because that war terrorized the Palestinians. Also, gaining land as a result of war is a standard procedure. Of all the countries that have annexed or otherwise occupied the Palestinian territories, _only_ Israel has offered independence.
avielMenter 1 year ago
Albania took them in.
doyoureallythinkso 1 year ago
It's not without a reason that israelis choose just a random area without people there, israelis have been in this land for years. Looks past the bible if you don't believe in it, we're still there. Every time banished and coming back, but still there. This is our land as promised by the bible, so obviously we would want it.
orel1996 1 year ago
how did a white attrocity and war crime become the Palestinian issue? thats what i wanna know? i dont wann hear aout their paranoia, ect. I wanna know, how do you move in an pull the same shit the dutch boers pulled down in South Africa?
tester859 1 year ago
Israel is swinging the machete in someone elses house, because they were shooting rockets from their "house". Lebanon shot 200 rockets a day at one point, Gaza fired of 60 on Christmas Eve, YOU IGNORANT RETARD.
ZIONISTMAN1 1 year ago
@ZIONISTMAN1 kinda hard to hit you @ home in Europe. Helen Thomas was right!
tester859 1 year ago
cenk, i love the young turks, and i follow it almost religiously. however, on Israel, i disagree with you. i dont love some of what they do, but i think you r to hard on them. as a proud Israeli-American Jew, i can't condemn the state
sarawer 1 year ago
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Paranoid is what people call you when they want you to let your guard down.
Does he think all these people calling for death to all Jews all over the world are kidding?
Was Hitler kidding?
Check out:
Palestine House "Security" You need another Holocaust on youtube
theresmoretoit1 1 year ago
Paranoid???? Paranoia is when you are UNREASONABLY afraid of something. You contradict yourself you moron. You state how the arabs attacked once, then again. For the record, the Arabs tried to finish Hitler's dream six (6) times in a row. And you still call the Israelis "paranoid"? Then you quote a nut like Norman Finkelstein and try to make yourself sound like the voice of reason? Cenk, you are a closet anti-Semite. You rant about Jews and Israel while stating you're "pro-Israel"? RU serious?
banacek8675 1 year ago
I agreewith everything said here. and i'm atheist
jigglyfidda125 1 year ago
is this guy arab?
s0mersnoob 1 year ago
@s0mersnoob Cenk Uygur is a Turkish Arab. You can get more on him on Wikipedia. He is one of the harshest critics of Israel in the media. He currently works for MSNBC.
banacek8675 1 year ago
One mistake you did was to say "the Arabs attacked again", the second war was an attack by Britain, France and Israel on Egypt...
ForgotMyName3 1 year ago
DumbTurks is an antisemetic pro-islamic extremists supporter!
See video "Pallywood" or Walid Shoebat and learn the truth!
bobisnohere1 1 year ago
jews had the land first---since before the pyramids 5000+ years---theyre just returining to theyre land ,FINALLY,after centuries
sasktank 1 year ago
@sasktank
One of my ancestors lived in France 10000+ years ago, so I have the right to expel all French people from their own land, slaughter them, steal their properties and take their land!!
This is the absurd logic of anyone, like you, who says that Jewish people have the right to take Palestinian land.
Mrbobab 1 year ago
@Mrbobab If it is written in the Old Testament that one of your ancestors lived in France 100000 years ago and that France belongs to him, than I think it belongs to him.
cpeigney94 1 year ago 2
@cpeigney94 its like if native americans could some how conquer 88 percent of america and evry body else lived on an indian reservation...except it would make more sense
fallenempireoverdrve 6 months ago
fuck! Our people have been in that land for over 3500 years! FUCK! its our land if it wern't for the fucking romans we would have never have left!
orgasmatronful 1 year ago
I agree with that video and that the more times the two sides attack each other the more less likely for each side coming to the negotiating table.
theVideogamer27 1 year ago
Turkey is worried about Israel while they're abusing kurds, and annihilated armenians! Turkey is a backwards, trashy little nation and they have no business tellin Israel a thing!
Conail23 1 year ago
Broke the ceasefire by shooting by destorying tunnels used to transport rockets which would OBVIOUSLY be used against israel.
Penguinz13989 1 year ago
LOL "you can make a deal"... they 'will take it out of the charter" - when did hamas honor any of their deals? did they honor deals with their "brothers" fatah? NO..what about when Saudi Arabia tried to mediate? NO what about when Egypt tried? NO.. .so who is there to make a deal with? The guy himself called them fantatical.. and then asks Israel to make a deal with ...fanatics? lol yes that will work out well...
mrkv39 1 year ago
palastine was not hugely populated
allforall48 1 year ago
flaws in this video fail to mention the historical and archeological evidence of Jewish life in Israel. Not to mention the continued Jewish presence and Biblical attachment to the land
swim3330 2 years ago
You are wrong.
British Mandate had ruled the region, divided the ground states we know today as Syria,Lebanon,Iraq etc.
UN divided the land into Arab and Jewish state. On the declaration of the Jewish state,Arab armies attacked Israel. Syria,Egypt,Lebanon,Jordan and Palestinians.
Now they cry that they lost all the wars they are forced Israel since 48.
And let's mention the deal that Barak offered Arafat, and he would not accept a deal that actually gives him what the Arabs are demanding today.
shlomppers 2 years ago
Israel invaded all of those countries. Stop trying to act like it's the otherway around. Jews and Arabs have lived side by side in Palestine peacefully until the Zionism came around. Israel NEVER existed until the UN wanted to make it a state. A "fake" state.
ResidentialNemevil 1 year ago
@ResidentialNemevil
Look for Israel on the map.
Now that you found it, and compare its size to the rest of the Arab and Muslim countries.
Then tell me that Israel invaded somewhere.
I have nothing to discuss with you, because history supports what I say, while your speculations are supported by the sermons of radical imams.
shlomppers 1 year ago
LOL what drugs are you on? Or are you just naturally an idiot?
Are you forgetting Israel is still building settlements on Palestinian land as we speak?
legally ALL of The West Bank and East Jerusalem are Palestinian and every settlement on them is ILLEGAL.
I thought you guys had good schools over there, though you must have your own biased version of history.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
Yes, insult me is a great way to win the debate.
West Bank never belonged to any country, and today Israeli law does not apply there.
So it's legal for Jews to build there, just as it's legal and Arabs.
It's not a matter of law, the interest of the world that Jews are building.
That by law, all done by the book.
And we have excellent schools, so I study history objectively.
shlomppers 1 year ago
Its not a debate its just simply me pointing out how wrong you are.
The West Bank Legally belongs to the Palestinians, maybe go read up on Res 181 and 242.
And ofcourse its a matter of the law, the whole world is against you when it comes to your building of settlements, without Americans veto your country would of been under UN sanctions years ago. Go check the vote numbers at the UN website yourself.
And while i dont doubt your schools teach good maths ect your history is pathetic.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
@chrisdef15 Excuse me if I do not respect the UN resolutions. His Human Rights Council, sitting some countries, which need to be judged for war crimes.
Organization in which a state which calls for the destruction of state and received applause properly.
Decisions of the British Mandate before the establishment of the League of Nations established the State: Jews the right to settlement in Eretz Israel, including Judea and Samaria
shlomppers 1 year ago
@chrisdef15 The last sovereign of Judea and Samaria - by the UN - was the British Mandate, the area assigned to the Jewish homeland.
According to Article 6 of the Mandate, Jewish right of settlement in Eretz Israel, including Judea and Samaria.
And that's just racism that Arabs can live in areas of Israel, but God forbid that a Jew will live in the new Arab state.
They declare that they want a land clean of Jews and that's okay, it's not racism ...
Hypocrisy and manipulation.
shlomppers 1 year ago
LOL wow you have no clue.
As has been pointed out to you the British Mandate and the UN are nothing the same. The British promised things they couldnt give to both sides, thats there fault not the Palestinians. The UN resolutions are all that matter.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
And on the racism i agree some are racist, but not all, and that is beside the point.
Its got nothing to do with the jews just "living there" its the fact the land is run by Israeli's with soldiers protecting them. You cant just move into the Arab state, kick people out of there homes with army protection, bulldoze crops, build jewish only roads ect. That just ridiculous to compare that with Arabs living completely withing the Law in Israel.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
@chrisdef15 This is my point. They did not remove anyone from his house.
Arabs continue to live where they lived in Judea and Samaria, and Jews do not live there instead of Arabs, but also.
shlomppers 1 year ago
Ofcourse they have moved people from there houses. There are clips just on youtube of it happening.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
@chrisdef15
Where? Show me videos, which see Arabs evicted from their homes, instead, live Jews.
I'm talking about something concrete, not Pallywood.
Perhaps one place, the story itself is controversial.
This is a house in Hebron, according to Jews purchased at full cost, according to the Arabs was not such a deal.
Although there is no evidence, Israel evacuated the Jewish inhabitants.
So what are you talking about?
shlomppers 1 year ago
LOL geez your a retard. You seriously dont know anything about your own country.
Do a simple google search for "israeli land confiscation" and you will find HEAPS of evidence from big name news networks and Human rights groups.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
@chrisdef15 To you to stop insulting me. It lowers your dignity and respect.
You notice that you send me a vain search for things that have no basis.
You supposedly think that's true that some "enlightened human rights organization" decided to believe the story without foundation.
You can not even get me an example to confront it.
Meanwhile you are prejudice, because you throw slogans instead of real cases.
shlomppers 1 year ago
last comment, and again i insult you coz your a retard.
If your not going to believe hundreds of pages of evidence from international agencies (with hundreds of real cases) your beyond help.
You just stick with the biased propaganda you learn at school.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
No one learns about these things in our schools, get it out of your mind.
You call me biased, and you believe in bodies sponsored by the anti-Israeli organizations.
So who is prejudice?
After all, I know the area, things that you specify are unfounded, then you bring me "evidence" of a liberal and a Palestinian, and that's what you think will change my mind?
shlomppers 1 year ago
LOL if you believe all those HR groups and the UN is anti Israel it shows your paranoid as well as stupid.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
@chrisdef15 Yes the UN is not anti-Semitic?
The UN has an automatic majority of Third World countries against Israel,is not anti-Semitic.
UN in 2006 helped Hezbollah to kidnap two Israeli soldiers,is not anti-Semitic.
its institutions in the PA are used to hide weapons And as a shooting areas.not anti-Semitism?
Where is the UN, when Russia attacks Chechnya?
Wheres the UN, when the U.S. and UK commit "war crimes" in Iraq and Afghanistan?
You're right, they are silent.
But I'm paranoid :)
shlomppers 1 year ago
So all third world countries are anti semetic? Paranoid.
The UN didnt help Hezbollah do anything, and the only people claiming they help hide weapons are the biased IDF, ive never ever read any proof from independent sources or even the US. Paranoid.
The UN does/did complain about Russia just as they did with the US. Hard to do anything about someone with veto powers though. paranoid.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
youre really saying there isn't a majority of muslim/ Third World countries against Israel?
you're blind!
Saying that the UN didn't helped Hezbollah doesn't make it true,it's a known fact back in 2006 their soldiers, stationed on the Lebanese, helped Hezbollah!
There are many individual reports, the problem is that the UN prefers to ignore them.
Why? That there is evidence disprove the Golston report . And it's not good for them that Israel is not guilty.
youre hypocrite blind & fixed.
shlomppers 1 year ago
First 3rd world/muslim countries dont make up the majority or the UN.
Second why would 3rd world countries other then muslim ones have a problem with Israel based on any biased reasons? They dont its simply coz what Israel does it wrong.
How did the UN help Hezbollah?
What individual reports? As i said im sure the US would complain if that was right but its not.
chrisdef15 1 year ago
Jews who converted to Christianity before the Second World War, thought they were finished with Judaism and now, the world will receive them.
Hitler led them all together to the gas chambers.
Jew remains a Jew, and preferably all Jews understand this.
Israel is home to Jews.
Your video full of mistakes.
shlomppers 2 years ago
Thats why so many "innocent civilians" died!!!!!
watch?v=4O2iKY6ROkU
odfighter 2 years ago
Absolutely there were people there but they weren't driven from there. Land was bought and the rest that was owned by the Ottoman Empire and that was sold too. Lets not forget the 1948 war, they left their homes and they were SURE that they were coming back. Unforunaetly - for them - Israel won.
SayeretMatkal291 2 years ago
this guy is delusional. israel is not "swinging machetes" at palestinian kids. thats what the palestinans are doing to israel with their rockets aimed at civillian areas. and israel only attacks milittary targets when needed and when their are terrorists stockpiling weapons for future use on israel or something like that. and if some civillians get killed unintentionally well then that is unfortunate but thats war. you can never be 100% accurate. this guy is either an uneducated moron or biased
noway221 2 years ago
Watch the video "Would you bomb a school?"!
He's not biased!
The Israeli side also makes mistakes!
Borschtschow 2 years ago
Thing is Civilians have been killed INTENTIONALLY. over 1300 civilians killed is not unintentional. Or you're completley ignorant of the facts...
TeamRKO27 2 years ago
yep ofcourse only civilian killed it so logocal!!!
odfighter 2 years ago
LOL but you rnot biased in forgetting Israel is stealing Palestinian land?
chrisdef15 2 years ago
i never said i wasnt biased. but im not the one posting a video on youtube with the title "consider the israeli perspective" and then proceed to bash israel in the same video. its kind of stupid, really. and hypocrytical. maybe he just wanted to get more views.
noway221 2 years ago
Well since there perspective is a joke then its hard not too bash them then is it.
chrisdef15 2 years ago
so you agree with me that this guy is just a stupid leftist terrorist syphathizer who is attempting to hide behind the guise of a unbiased open minded polical commentator. hes not very good at trying to be unbiased though. he should change the title at least. but then again hes a young turk. didnt expect anything more sophisticated
noway221 2 years ago
Nope, i think facts are facts and he is not gonna suck up Israel's ass too look better and so says what he said.
chrisdef15 2 years ago
i see both sides of this war, i understand why israelis are so angry at the palestineans, palestine attacked israel first and israel went apeshit thinking another holocaust was going to happen, and palestine has gotten their land stolen and their people killed brutally, even women and little kids
fuckyoublamshit 2 years ago
Jordan is 80% Palestinian, they already have a state. The Hashemites were brought in from Arabia by thr Brits as a thanx for their support. They want two states. Jews are 67% of the population if including the west bank and arab birth rates are falling while jewish are rising. Not to mention jewish immigration and arab emmigration. If the Israelis are smart they'll just wait it out.
peev16 2 years ago
I cant believe he used Norman finkleshit as an example of an anti-israel jew. The man is as antisemitic as you can get, and has been involved in holocaust denial
yits051 2 years ago
jews and israel are the same thing
the bible says it
medeocracy 2 years ago
The bible also says the earth is flat.
Bazompora 2 years ago
Israel were not taken in by anyone because they had formerly been ejected from almost every country because what you see them doing in the Gaza strip they have excercised everywhere else before this.., read their fucking Talmud and you will understand why they have been ejected from everywhere else.., they are a disgusting cancer to this planet! They can be the chosen of children of their God but ya see I dont adhere to their God who the rest of us commonly know as Satan!
mysty0 2 years ago
I have read the Talmud and I still have no idea what you're talking about. Also you shouldn't overstate its significance; the Torah is the Law, the Talmud is tradition that's not even recognized by every Jew. Tell me one thing the Jews have ever done wrong and can give you something they've done for humanity. What did they do to get ejected besides of course just trying to live cause I know how much you hate that.
peev16 2 years ago
what have they done for humanity? what a joke., enlighten me please I beg of you
mysty0 2 years ago
It's too long for this, Ill send you a message.
peev16 2 years ago
Islams is shit, it would be nice to see those piggy ppl just die out.
WonderBread006 2 years ago
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this comment is for the idiot talking in the video.
get yourself educated. Israel and Jews want peace! unfortunately, the religious nut cases don't. the civilians harmed are just collateral damage . and yes, it is acceptable!
sirami49 2 years ago
LET we also accept collateral damage against americans and israelis ! becuase its acceptable
SkZindagiRocks 2 years ago
You can believe all lies told about Israel, but GOD knows the TRUE, and thats important.
satan hates Israel and want to destroy it, but God bless and protect Israel, so ISRAEL shall NEVER FALL!
***LONG LIVE ISRAEL ***
FlorienBloem777 2 years ago
By the way, I'm curious to know if this guy is really serious about negotiating with a guy that breaks into his house, or in this case, someone who shoots through his window (like the Hamas rockets being shot into Israel). Would he really not shoot back? (He's probably never touched a gun in his life, though.)
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The Anti-Semetic Hamas charter of which this guys speaks is taught in the schools of Hamas (yes- Hamas run and funded schools). Of course that is no reason to kill all the children, but certainly that plus the fact that rockets are being fired from the school rooves justifies Israel's military in taking action against hostile militants killing Jewish civilians.
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HelpDsk 2 years ago
"No one took them in" may want to expand on that btw, not only did they not take us in, they didn't let us in, they forced us out, etc.
symbolmk 2 years ago 18
@symbolmk that is not true; during the holocaust a lot of coutnries offered sanctuary to the Jews; Turkey, China, Canada, Britain, the US and the list goes on.... so... WTF? WTF are you and Cenk talking about?
bbphnix 8 months ago
Norman Finkelstien doesnt represent anybody but himself. You totally forgot the one million Jews displaced from Arab countries. The Muslim states threw the Jews out without their posessions. The Jewish Refugees outnumbered the Arab Refugees. The difference being that Israel accepted the Jewish Refugees. And the Arab States have kept the Arab Refugees in limbo. They dont show love for their own Arab brothers, just hatred for Israel
sherbuy 2 years ago
Muslim pig , Israel is doing the right thing
mamus4 2 years ago
(Note: Mostly abandoned)
symbolmk 2 years ago
ok...first off, amirz, you are a god damn moron. "1000s" uh...6,000,000+ dumb fuck.
and yea, I am Jewish, no there is no new world order, the land was barren and abandoned before Israel was ther, Long Live Israel!
symbolmk 2 years ago
ISRAEL SHOULD BE BARRED FROM THE UNITED NATIONS
Its time for the United Nations to shed its impotency and impose tough sanctions on Israel. That would be the least the U.N. could do after sitting silently for years through a peace process that Israel has used as a cover for ethnic cleansing and theft of Palestinian land.
America and NATO bombed Serbia because of its intransigence; it should now do the same to Israel, starting with the destruction of illegal settlements and roads.
TheCountBernadotte1 2 years ago
great vid
nasiri78 2 years ago 4
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long life israel as i think these jews never finished by any 1, every 1 tried hard accept muslims,Hourus, Babloniyan persians n romans many times attacked on jews,n in 2nd world war almost all Europains wre against jews,n killed 1000s of jews,but they r still exist every corner of world,now cristons r in the favour of israel,but actually dey r puthing jews togather in Israel if cristons Drops atom bomb on dem then all jews will be finished very esly from the world,ya its new world order
amirzubairmughal 2 years ago
I agree with just about everything you said. Thanks for the honest vid
officialPaze 2 years ago 10
Fuck the Israelis and their intransigent, land-stealing, accord-violating, agreement-breaking, stubborn, piggish, murderous, utterly selfish, propagandistic, sociopathic, perennially dishonest, lying, cheating, thieving, blatantly dispossessing, malignantly narcissistic, U.S. backed and armed, incendiary, provocative, dangerous, so-called state.
Give them the fate they have truly earned ... may they all DROWN IN THE DEAD SEA !!!!!
CrooningForLeftovers 2 years ago
yeh, were obveously full of hate
allforall48 2 years ago
Israel originally WAS jewish land.
Kalahridudex 2 years ago
A Jewish State for sixty years means it will last forever?
The Normans conquered Jerusalem in 1099, Saladin took it back in 1187, eighty-eight years later. Then in another generation, the Europeans were driven back into the Mediterranean.
geezzerboy 2 years ago
What if your neighbours house had a missile launch field on their backyard, launching daily rockets towards your house, would you go in their house and swing the machette?
rodrigoklepacz 2 years ago
What if "your" house is actually their farm that you stole? Would you still swing the machete at the people next door who's land you stole? Sounds like Israelis have the mindset of a criminal.
boredguy299 2 years ago
Not what happened. What happened was an Israeli incursion in to the Gaza strip, which they retaliated against. U need to get ur facts right.
Israel broke the treaty in November, and it was only after that, that Hamas started launching missiles.
Kostasnascos 2 years ago
trust me, the 2 palastiniens were not the deaths that started it, it was tension
allforall48 2 years ago
Israel broke the ceasefire, that is what started it.
Kostasnascos 2 years ago 4
no, hamas did. please keep your facts straight.
dontdomilk 2 years ago
They broke the ceasefire in november, that is the view of the Israeli government as well, so there is no question about it.
Kostasnascos 2 years ago 3
I wonder if there is any public support for a gypsy (roma) homeland. They were/are still subjected to frequent purges and discrimination. they too were devasted by the concentration camps.
flyingdrake 2 years ago
flyingdrake, u need to learn a thing or two about gypsies. They would never want a homeland, because it would go against everything they believe in. Judith Oakely wrote a pretty good book about them, maybe u should read it...
Kostasnascos 2 years ago
I like the comment before when you said, Israels decisions are not for all Jews
But you seem to be making an excuse for them saying you can understand them. I frankly can't. Jeremiah Wright was spot on. Israel is a terrorist state. I am not saying Jews are. There is a difference
If they have had that problem through anti-semitism, they should know better than to slaughter Palestines. The fact that you want a home doesn't give you the right to pursue apartheid against Arabs
Israel is wrong!
jopaddy81 2 years ago
Again not all Israelis are killing Palestinians. Just as not all Palestinians are killing Israelis.
The area has been fighting for centuries where each group of people keep escalating hostilities.
ybaron123 love thy enemy as your friend. I've found that even when people act hostile to you I did not once treat them no different then my friends. Afterward those people dropped the harassment ect and derogatory generalization of my country.
Gungrave20 2 years ago
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you want perment peace throw out every fucking dirty arab out of israel and the so called "occupied" territories. this is jewish territory given by G-d! there is no such thing as a palestinian and there is no such thing as a jordainian. jordan belongs rightfully to Israel. give me back my land. we will eventually throw you out. that is a promise!
ybaron123 2 years ago
The promise was the land given by God belongs to the Jews, that is if you believe in the bible.(muslims don't)
What you don't know is that the Arabs there as well as the afro Jews are of the same ancestors. They were only converted to Islam.(Read about the Sephardi)
These europeans that have settled there just because they are Judaist (Ashkenazi) have succeded in unsettling the region.
The only way to bring peace is to end illegal settlement and create Palestine a state. It is that Simple
jopaddy81 2 years ago
not ture arabian jews still live in jersulam 15k jews live in yeman some othere live in iran ur jews eu jew are not arab jews here is the diffrence they took jewsh reilgion there not from arabia here is the diffrence so the do not have claim over the land.
babaganabal 2 years ago
yes but dose that give them a right to take some one elase homes and kills the orgional owners ?
babaganabal 2 years ago
who are you? do you do this in your mothers basement?
changoskillz 2 years ago
the arabs didnt attack the second time...israel attacked preemptively.
sting695 2 years ago
u are such an ignorant person.
there are more than 1.6 billion muslims and less than 1% at the most (1% is also too much) can be called terrorists.
dude talk peace respect all..muslims christians and jews...all peace
shahabimbad 2 years ago
i rest my case..ur a jew and a hater ... dont reply plz ppl like u are the problem
shahabimbad 2 years ago
i cant believe ppl like u still exist...i dont give a fuck what the bible or the koran says..land belongs to jews wow what a joke...i dont believe in any scripture..the talmud also says that jews can rape and murder gentiles and its not a sin shud i believe in that too and give myself to a homosexual jew or a female jew sex addict. get REAL .... no land belongs to no one if some 4000 year old book says so...stupid christians and jews and muslims...
shahabimbad 2 years ago
I dont care what muhammed did or what the koran says. I dont care what the Talmud or the Tourah says. This is silly. You are blaming or worse if you are an Israeli, actually supporting apartheid. Palestinians are moslems, ok fine its their religion but if they were christians would the world be more responsive and do justice, I guess yes which means that we still havent humanized. And please dont pull the insulting gear on any religion, your nickname says all about your petty beliefs
shahabimbad 2 years ago
some who call themselves ARE "palestinians"
\You assume that all of the Arabs ARE Muslims. That is not true.
Until you get that fact straight there is no use for you to debate.
If you do not know that, then certainly you have missed so many other facts and figures and stats. You are using lingo which is so borrowed from other sources which is why I doubt you even know the deep issues here. As for Arab Christians in Israel, their lives have been made a living hell in Bethlehem by MUSLIMS!
hawkandpanther 2 years ago
Man the fact that you blame everything on Moslems and Islam is pathetic. You hate them so much stop it. I have many Moslem friends and they HUMANS. Back to history, it is only in the Al Ummayad Dynasty when the Jews were persecuted by Muslims following the Caliph apart from that no Islamic rule did that unlike the eastern europeans. Your theory of land belonging to Jews is preposterous. The real owners of that lands were not ASHKENAZIS. Do NOT REPLY TO THIS I CANT TOLERATE HATERS
shahabimbad 2 years ago
moslems dont have a bible dick
shahabimbad 2 years ago
Well the fact that you spread hate for a religion without any knowledge about it shows the kind of intolerant attitude you have.
I am not saying that anyone should be "WIPED OFF" the map. Jews and Muslims are humans. Read history, you are right eastern europe did and still has its anti semitic attitude towards the Jews but at the same time Muslims DID NOT. I am in full support of a Jewish homeland but to say that Palestine was an empty land before ISRAEL is preposterous. I am student of History
shahabimbad 2 years ago
You can't make a deal with Hamas.
DevieBoy66 2 years ago
muslims are wiped off...do u suck dicks all the time looser...U WANT TO WIPE MUSLIMS OFF THE MAP do u even know how many islamic states are there and one of them is a nuclear power
shahabimbad 2 years ago
I replied in your box
as for the Holocaust was a consequence for not moving back to Israel in 1920's
would you say they were complacent?
THat is NOT exactlyh the same as "fault"
semantics can be a dangerous and delicate act to balance--
Jews were exiled in the year 70 of the CE and the Roman Emperor renamed the land "syria-palestina" and the "syria' was dropped--and THEN--"palestine" stuck--but NEVER as a "nation"
not until 48 when Israel RECLAIMED a LAND which IS GOD'S given to the JEWS!
hawkandpanther 2 years ago
hawkandpanther 2 years ago
This seems to be you arguing with the Israeli perspective, as opposed to giving it.
jellyfishmilk 2 years ago
"DA JEWS KILLA"
SexciiAsad 2 years ago
The UN has confirmed that the Gaza School hit by the Israelis was used as a location to fire rockets. There are confirmations that Hamas killed Palestinians if they tried to flee. I guess it's no big deal for Arabs to murder Arabs. It's a big deal if a Jew kills an Arab. Jews in Israel will never be Dhimmis again, ever. Arabs in control of Israel means a new hellhole. No medical patents, no research, no technological breakthroughs. Just Arabs killing Arabs after they kill al the Jews.
egghead1961 2 years ago
Actually, the UN confirmed that a UN school was never hit.
jellyfishmilk 2 years ago
Yeah, where is this "confirmation"? why didn't Israel let journalists in to Gaza in the aftermath to try and get some of what happened according to the Gazans? What were you hiding?
kiriakufromcyprus 2 years ago
The Zionist so-called World Jewish Congress declared war on the country of Germany knowing that it would affect their Jewish brothers residing in that country. When others tried to help them escape to other countries, the Zionist movement took actions which caused those countries to lock their doors (read more in the books, Perfidy and Min Hametzer). [Due to] Zionist influence five ships of Jewish refugees from Germany arriving in the [US] were turned back to the gas chambers. Ibid 2/2
taywil64 3 years ago
Under the Black Flag
By URI AVNERY
A Spanish judge has instituted a judicial inquiry against seven Israeli political and military personalities on suspicion of war crimes and crimes against humanity. The case: the 2002 dropping of a one ton bomb on the home of Hamas leader Salah Shehade. Apart from the intended victim, 14 people, most of them children, were killed...
See Counterpunch free online
taywil64 3 years ago
Fuck the zionists assholes who runs the fucking shithole!....come on jews, open your eyes!
usergently 3 years ago
The Daily Express (London) published an article on March 24, 1933 announcing that the Jews had already launched their boycott against Germany and described a forthcoming "holy war". The Express urged Jews everywhere to boycott German goods and demonstrate against German economic interests. Site Jews against Zionism
taywil64 3 years ago
thats a normal norm if someone is amazd by this mans speach ..
than you are stupid
SultanTSK 3 years ago
While he may look like an Arab, his last name reveals that his ancestors came from central Asia. And they are still occupying Kurdish and Armenian land. At one point, for a really long time, they occupied Israel, too. Guess what Young turk? The passage of time will not make the people of Israel forget about the land of Israel any less than Kurds will forget that their home was stolen.
asunduko1 3 years ago
The Jews were given Israel! The problem is Israeli greed with their illegal occupation of their neighbours land and their unrelenting hate and aggression against the Palestinian people.
taywil64 3 years ago 2
Really, who "gave" Jews Israel? England, UN, United States ? England did everything to prevent Jewish immigration. When Jews were caught they were sent back to concentration camps in Europe ? Americans refused to sell weapons to the new nation. And UN never expected Israel to survive that's why its empty gestures were never followed up by any action to protect the native Jewish population or Mizrahi, Sefardi Jews, or Holocaust Survivors.
The rest of your post is not even worthy of a reply.
asunduko1 3 years ago
The League of Nations had given the mandate to the UK to govern the area. The Nazi's had financed the move of Jews to Palestine. The world has allowed Israel to flourish and Palestine to die. The Israeli state has treated Palestine as a ghetto and is still stopping food, water, medicine and other relief from entering Palestine. You are rewriting history to justify your injustices and to keep the annexed land contrary to international law. Stop feeling so sorry for yourselves and think of others
taywil64 3 years ago
I don't know who you think I am. But I am certainly not feeling sorry for myself. No reason to. But I know who you are, a liar. There's absolutely NO evidence of Nazi financing Jewish immigration. You should know, you're a NAZI.
asunduko1 3 years ago
There is ample evidence, even as laste as '44. And J. Fest is one of the sources, and he is certainly not a fan of the Nazis, and neither am I. And you are feeling sorry for yourself and Israel.
taywil64 3 years ago
Zionism was supported by the SS, Gestapo. Hitler himself ...In the 1930s, in cooperation with the Germans Zionists organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. ... 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized Kibbutz training camps over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of Israel. Visit Jews gaainst Zionism online
taywil64 3 years ago
Britain did indeed attempt to stop Jewish emigration to palestine, as was its duty. But aggresively Jews continued to arrive and conducted an Hamas/PLO type of insurgency war and drove the British out. Then they drove the Palestinians out. Then they plotted with France and Britain re: the Suez crisis etc...
taywil64 3 years ago
Who is asking the Jews to forge about Israel?
taywil64 3 years ago
but israel knows that the only solution is the 2 states solution. its the hamas who doesnt.
8 years they keep sending missiles. in 2005 we went out of gaza. but hamas kept the missiles on. we went out because we want 2 states solution. the whole world is ignoring the fact that they sending missiles on us.
TheDarkSkyRider 3 years ago
Let us be fair. The world condemns Hamas. But with Israel's aggression, as evidenced in the Lebanon, we see a pattern to Israel's illegal action in occupying neighbouring land. The 8 years of crude mortars and bombs killed 20; Isarel in 3 weeks has killed over 1100, and wounded 5,000+ and mentally damaged tens of thousands. Even the UN was not spared. And with Holocaust day coming up you will be lamenting your dead; lament all victims of genocide and state sanctioned violence.
taywil64 3 years ago