The first record player my father ever owned was a German made machine, called Perpetuum Ebner (still remember the brand). It could play 78s, 45s, and 33s but you had to change styli. There was one for the 78s and one for 45s and 33s. My, we have come a long way, haven't we. However, I learned a lot of my music on that machine...
yes, the dropping is cool to watch, but bad for the discs ,especially since 78s are highly breakable...just having the things in those binders used for 78 storage would , and will cause breakage unless the pages are turned just right..
@teendude16 I believe it can be bad for 78s, since some of them don't have groove-guards and a few (WW2 era) have cardboard sandwiched between 2 layers of shellac (to conserve the shellac). For vinyl records (with groove guards), it's not a problem unless they're badly warped.
I used to have a turntable with an automatic setting where the arm would tap the record for size - check if it were a 7" or 12" before it dropped, and adjust speeds. That could be overwritten by a manual speed adjustment but it was always confused by 10" records, and of course, I had 12" disco records that played 45 rpm. Still, that's what I had as a teenager.
This find of spindle (Dual 1000 series) has three rubber pads to retain the stack. I think it´s the best for changing all records. Never destroy the hole but originally all spindles lost these pads. The rubber always is gone. If you have one, you can cut some little pieces of rubber to glue in to the spindle carefully. So you decide to put it up or down. Shellack records needs a little more space to work in those umbrella.
So... the Dual did "sense" it was playing a 78 and changed speeds and size itself accordingly? How in hell could it do that??? If true, WOW!! I'd be in awe just trying to figure out the machinery and logic needed to do this.
I made an Autospeed device for a Collaro Conquest. It plays large 33 rpm records, with small 45 rpm records last (Large records must be first on Conquest). It stops the turntable during the cycle. It doesn't interfere with normal use.
My mother had a 50's Emerson record player with detachable speakers, this one would also change speeds, recognizing that after an album had ended the next record was a 78, while the tonearm was in motion, the speed would change from 33, go past 45, and before the needle dropped it was already spinning at 78 rpm. No turntables afterward did this, including the great one you see here, Dual turntables are the best!
Unfortunately, this record player was placed in the garage and subsequently discarded when it no longer worked. If I find an image while surfing, I will immediately let you know. It was reddish brown, with 2 white detachable speakers; closed you could use the outer controls for the radio, lift up the lid and you had the turnable, tonearm in black with a white interior. Even my mother said the Emerson record player was "a smart machine." Thanks Mom!
The first record player my father ever owned was a German made machine, called Perpetuum Ebner (still remember the brand). It could play 78s, 45s, and 33s but you had to change styli. There was one for the 78s and one for 45s and 33s. My, we have come a long way, haven't we. However, I learned a lot of my music on that machine...
rodrigozuniga45 7 months ago
When the arm first moved was it searching for a 45rpm? Nice machine and good record.
ludvan64 1 year ago
@ludvan64
The tonearm has two little scanning wheels and move from the position you say to the edge of the record. That´s the system to index the size.
Those wheels get retracted to play it.
yopascualin 1 year ago
It's nice to watch it, but the records falling/dropping, is not good for the records, Thank you.
teendude16 2 years ago
yes, the dropping is cool to watch, but bad for the discs ,especially since 78s are highly breakable...just having the things in those binders used for 78 storage would , and will cause breakage unless the pages are turned just right..
DjJohnnyM68 2 years ago
@teendude16 I believe it can be bad for 78s, since some of them don't have groove-guards and a few (WW2 era) have cardboard sandwiched between 2 layers of shellac (to conserve the shellac). For vinyl records (with groove guards), it's not a problem unless they're badly warped.
lrd9999 6 months ago
I've never seen this type of action on a turntable, the sizing. Love it.
aztiff 2 years ago
Ya, heard about that that too, When being careful with them, it should be okThx,
teendude16 2 years ago
I used to have a turntable with an automatic setting where the arm would tap the record for size - check if it were a 7" or 12" before it dropped, and adjust speeds. That could be overwritten by a manual speed adjustment but it was always confused by 10" records, and of course, I had 12" disco records that played 45 rpm. Still, that's what I had as a teenager.
mdmphd 2 years ago 3
Thanks a lot for posting all of these videos. It's really nice watching them on the old players.
theostavrides 3 years ago 2
Do you ever have problems with 78s not dropping correctly with the umbrella spindle?
dewey70 3 years ago 2
This find of spindle (Dual 1000 series) has three rubber pads to retain the stack. I think it´s the best for changing all records. Never destroy the hole but originally all spindles lost these pads. The rubber always is gone. If you have one, you can cut some little pieces of rubber to glue in to the spindle carefully. So you decide to put it up or down. Shellack records needs a little more space to work in those umbrella.
Thanks for your interest.
yopascualin 3 years ago
Great machine, man. Were those made in the late 50s-early 60s? What kind of amp/speakers are you using with that?
dewey70 3 years ago 2
Hi. These was manufacturated in 1960. I use a Technics SU-V500 amplifier and a pair of common speakers Technics too.
Thank you
yopascualin 3 years ago
yopascualin, Just wonderful! Thank you. Regards, J.
fuzzbear6240 4 years ago 2
So... the Dual did "sense" it was playing a 78 and changed speeds and size itself accordingly? How in hell could it do that??? If true, WOW!! I'd be in awe just trying to figure out the machinery and logic needed to do this.
betobetodotcom 4 years ago
No, no ha ha! It has the four standard speeds and one more for the cam cycle. The selection of the speed always is manual.
yopascualin 4 years ago
I wish my 1006 ran like that lol. It will soon.
jasonlava 4 years ago
I found pictures of the three I do know about (see posts below).
I can't seem to post links. So Google "RECORD CHANGERS" and look for it in all capital letters. Then navigate to the third page of the set.
Mudimush 4 years ago
Webcor 152 turns the knob between 33 and 45 for sizes listed for GS-77. It can't be defeated.
I remember reading of a Garrard RC-210 variant that mixed 12" and 10" 33 rpm records, with 7" 45s last. But I can't find it.
Mudimush 4 years ago
I own a Glaser-Steers GS-77 with speedminder that:
- Mixes 10" and 12" 33 rpm records with 7" 45 records.
- Senses when the 78 stylus is selected and chooses 78.
- Has manual speed override.
- Stops the turntable during the cycle.
Mudimush 4 years ago
I made an Autospeed device for a Collaro Conquest. It plays large 33 rpm records, with small 45 rpm records last (Large records must be first on Conquest). It stops the turntable during the cycle. It doesn't interfere with normal use.
Mudimush 4 years ago
I have two auto-speed changers, know of a third, and heard of a fourth. Because of the size limit, I will need several posts.
Mudimush 4 years ago
My mother had a 50's Emerson record player with detachable speakers, this one would also change speeds, recognizing that after an album had ended the next record was a 78, while the tonearm was in motion, the speed would change from 33, go past 45, and before the needle dropped it was already spinning at 78 rpm. No turntables afterward did this, including the great one you see here, Dual turntables are the best!
KojiRecords 4 years ago
An auto speed changer? Do you have some pic or video?
Thanks.
yopascualin 4 years ago
Unfortunately, this record player was placed in the garage and subsequently discarded when it no longer worked. If I find an image while surfing, I will immediately let you know. It was reddish brown, with 2 white detachable speakers; closed you could use the outer controls for the radio, lift up the lid and you had the turnable, tonearm in black with a white interior. Even my mother said the Emerson record player was "a smart machine." Thanks Mom!
KojiRecords 4 years ago
Great Dual deck!
nobootlegsplease 4 years ago
I was going to say, you have it on the wrong speed but it automatically goes to 78. Awesome turntable. I want one.
jasonlava 4 years ago
Coooool, and that turntable is scary! It thinks!! :D
aldiakaroofus 4 years ago
Ha ha ha. It´s the fabulous 1006 dual! I´m proud of it. I love the music too, of course. Thanks.
yopascualin 4 years ago
wow ,se oye muy bien ;)
massidob 4 years ago