I really do not know which one to listen? Gilels or Richter in this piece. Richter has his raw playing which is very deep and never misses his poetic finesse. On the other hand Gilels is much more calmer with his golden tone and never going overboard thus a bit less exciting in that manner. Nevertheless there are other great pianists in this piece, Cortot, Yudina etc.
Yes, this was once Sonata #3. It was actually started before Opus 14 (and only a few months after Opus 11) , but Schumann revised it so often that it eventually became Opus 22. It was recategorized as Number 2 a while ago to reflect its chronological order.
Girly, eh? Well, personally I reckon her playing has got more balls than that of many male pianists! She slaps and punches the keys like a champion boxer, but can be tender when it is necessary. I'm willing to wager that in a blind test not many people would ever guess that it was a 'girl' playing :)
It's interesting to compare Argerich with Richter. In the first movement she sounds very passionate, but rushed, and seems to use a lot of pedal in the faster passages. Richter's playing is amazingly clear, you can hear almost every note - some technique! In the second movement Richte'rs is just sheer 'tone' poetry, whereas Argerich sounds as if she is sight reading the music for the first time.
@bratupir Thanks bratupir, I am very relectant to call any artist a genius but , over the years I can find no better description for Richter. I think being largely self-taught and frre from the influence of ' teaching masters' has given him a rare insight into music and has allowed him to develop his own incredible keyboard technique.
@atherleyboy it's definitely ok to compare argerich with richter....but saying that argerich sounds as if she is sight reading the 2nd movement? What the hell! She gives a certainly desperate, bitter feelings to the piece...which is different from richter's approach......
@kiwibd O.K. I agree, I may have been too harsh on a very gifted pianist, but I am comparing her with Richter not Liberace! Richter has a clear vision for the movement and uses equisite control of tone and tempo to evoke mood, whereas I find Argerich's version a little hesitant and fragmented as if she was playing it for the first time and was experimenting with her phrasing - down to personal taste I guess!
But I wish they would stop changing the numbers of some pieces. It tends to get a bit confusing. Back when I was in college (50+ years ago), this was called the Sonata #3. In fact, that is how my copies of the score are labeled.
Also, I have a very old LP of the Dvorak Symphony #9. But, back then, it was called the Symphony #5.
@snaaptaker WTF?? Neither of these was ever called that... except for some amateur or bootleg LP maybe. I don't know really, as far as I know this has always been called Schumann Sonata #2.
@ppascaleff WTF, indeed! I'm always amused at 19 year old kids who think they know everything, as I thought the same at that age. Now, 50+ years later, I realize how much I DON'T know.
My memory reaches back much further than your time on earth. And my copies of the Schumann are clearly labeled "Sonata No.3, Op.22.
As for the Dvorak, 50 years ago there were only five known symphonies. Later, four earlier ones were discovered and were added to the catalog. What was then No.1 is now No.5.
@snaaptaker I see, this explains the Dvorak numbering. Concerning Schumann's sonatas, I think the confusion is caused by opus numbers. The three sonatas were published in incorrect order, the second being with the biggest opus number.
Yes, now that I think about it, I do remember that on the music. I guess I'm talking about the last few measures- it's slightly rushed to the point where these people skip over notes. I guess that's what's meant as "faster than possible." I still don't like the sound of it- ruins it a little bit in my opinion.
Anything Richter plays is going to be magnificent...and he understood Schumann as no other pianist did. Richter always knew how to get to the heart of the music. And his playing was always inspired...never dry or "over-prepared"
Sì mi piace, perché, a differenza della Argerich che, come al solito deve dimostrare di essere la più veloce, Richter non tralascia espressività e cantabilità in quest'opera furiosa.
my teacher regarded this as one of the hardest in the repetoire as it needed so much overlooked detail and precision. I noow know what she means. It is a test of a real pianist. i like some of this rendition a lot.
すごい
green13cell 3 weeks ago
I really do not know which one to listen? Gilels or Richter in this piece. Richter has his raw playing which is very deep and never misses his poetic finesse. On the other hand Gilels is much more calmer with his golden tone and never going overboard thus a bit less exciting in that manner. Nevertheless there are other great pianists in this piece, Cortot, Yudina etc.
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autumntree2011 3 months ago
I love Richter's playing. Everything is beautiful.
henrique1944 7 months ago
wow! he's fast!!!!
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I think he should have ended a little more slowly...majestically.
But i still love the interpretation.No one has played this piece as wonderfully as he did.
ishitasingh91 10 months ago
I think he should have ended a little more slowly...majestically.
But i still love the interpretation.No one has played this piece as wonderfully as he did.
ishitasingh91 10 months ago
Yes, this was once Sonata #3. It was actually started before Opus 14 (and only a few months after Opus 11) , but Schumann revised it so often that it eventually became Opus 22. It was recategorized as Number 2 a while ago to reflect its chronological order.
TomBarrister 11 months ago
so schnell wie möglich heisst nicht, dass es hektisch sein muss!
atmen tut gut beim spielen!
badener1986 11 months ago
I must hear this on guitar!
Dionysius8421 1 year ago
@Dionysius8421 wut
swordchucks4life 7 months ago
grande!
CDA101252 1 year ago
echt gutes video bin ne ganz liebe wer will mehr rausfinden
lovebabi87 1 year ago 5
argerich is too girly for me. I want balls, pain,madness, joy, and freedom. I want Schumann.
vesperus1981 1 year ago
@vesperus1981
Girly, eh? Well, personally I reckon her playing has got more balls than that of many male pianists! She slaps and punches the keys like a champion boxer, but can be tender when it is necessary. I'm willing to wager that in a blind test not many people would ever guess that it was a 'girl' playing :)
madaboutvoice 8 months ago
@vesperus1981
Girly? Argerich? Martha Argerich? You got to be kidding, I laughed so hard I nearly fell off of my chair..
That woman will bury most pianists under the table with her force.
SupersnakeLivesTo100 2 months ago
incredible!!
abcpf500 1 year ago
中庸的演奏 听起来比较舒服
nora0712milk 1 year ago
Amazing, this piece needs a very high skill for performing. I tried to play it.
It's a sonate which show all the talent of schumann!
I love it from 0:00 to 10:32!
AngaratoC 1 year ago
yes but it'snt make on purpose...
fanny0820 1 year ago
It's interesting to compare Argerich with Richter. In the first movement she sounds very passionate, but rushed, and seems to use a lot of pedal in the faster passages. Richter's playing is amazingly clear, you can hear almost every note - some technique! In the second movement Richte'rs is just sheer 'tone' poetry, whereas Argerich sounds as if she is sight reading the music for the first time.
atherleyboy 1 year ago
@atherleyboy i think you understand the difference between a genius and a very talented pianist
bratupir 1 year ago
@bratupir Thanks bratupir, I am very relectant to call any artist a genius but , over the years I can find no better description for Richter. I think being largely self-taught and frre from the influence of ' teaching masters' has given him a rare insight into music and has allowed him to develop his own incredible keyboard technique.
atherleyboy 1 year ago
@atherleyboy it's definitely ok to compare argerich with richter....but saying that argerich sounds as if she is sight reading the 2nd movement? What the hell! She gives a certainly desperate, bitter feelings to the piece...which is different from richter's approach......
kiwibd 1 year ago
@kiwibd O.K. I agree, I may have been too harsh on a very gifted pianist, but I am comparing her with Richter not Liberace! Richter has a clear vision for the movement and uses equisite control of tone and tempo to evoke mood, whereas I find Argerich's version a little hesitant and fragmented as if she was playing it for the first time and was experimenting with her phrasing - down to personal taste I guess!
atherleyboy 1 year ago
oh my goodness, i did not know this recording existed. thank you!
brozors 1 year ago
huhutag und nacht träume ich davon dass sich jemnd findet der mich vor meiner langweile erlöst^^
TiffanyXMooree 1 year ago
Yes, not bad. But on the partiture Schumann had wrote another thing
WaldemarKoszlowsky 1 year ago
Sublime Immortale Richter ! Grazie .
bodiloto 2 years ago
Beautiful !
Il faut vivre comme Schumann s'est suicidé : avec passion !
lapinot21 2 years ago 3
il a tente de se suicider en 1854 en se jetant dans le Rhin. Il est mort dans un asile a Bonn en 1856
vonMohl 1 year ago
Richter è bravo ma anche Schumann non scherza.
MrFranz88 2 years ago 3
Già, qui non scherza nessuno!
MrPakired 2 years ago 2
@MrFranz88 U g'è mia da scherzag a dree. Al disi anca mi.
GiovanniEMB 1 year ago
impressionante
edopiano88 2 years ago 3
Qausi-God
morvensky 2 years ago 6
Yes, quite amazing.
But I wish they would stop changing the numbers of some pieces. It tends to get a bit confusing. Back when I was in college (50+ years ago), this was called the Sonata #3. In fact, that is how my copies of the score are labeled.
Also, I have a very old LP of the Dvorak Symphony #9. But, back then, it was called the Symphony #5.
I just don't know WHAT to think, anymore!
It's hell getting old. :))
snaaptaker 2 years ago 20
i don't think schumann himself really numbered his pieces either. this is his g minor sonata and it'll always be that.
ibclappin 2 years ago 3
@snaaptaker WTF?? Neither of these was ever called that... except for some amateur or bootleg LP maybe. I don't know really, as far as I know this has always been called Schumann Sonata #2.
ppascaleff 1 year ago
@ppascaleff WTF, indeed! I'm always amused at 19 year old kids who think they know everything, as I thought the same at that age. Now, 50+ years later, I realize how much I DON'T know.
My memory reaches back much further than your time on earth. And my copies of the Schumann are clearly labeled "Sonata No.3, Op.22.
As for the Dvorak, 50 years ago there were only five known symphonies. Later, four earlier ones were discovered and were added to the catalog. What was then No.1 is now No.5.
snaaptaker 1 year ago
@snaaptaker I see, this explains the Dvorak numbering. Concerning Schumann's sonatas, I think the confusion is caused by opus numbers. The three sonatas were published in incorrect order, the second being with the biggest opus number.
Thanks very much.
ppascaleff 1 year ago
@ppascaleff You are correct, and you're very welcome.
snaaptaker 1 year ago
@ppascaleff BTW, your Rach3 was excellent. Keep up the good work.
snaaptaker 1 year ago
Truly amazing!
But I could never understand why everyone that plays this so amazingly like this guy does tends to rush the ending a little bit.
cslapler007 2 years ago 6
You probably talking about coda of the 1st movement 5:00 - 5:27
The "rush" is a part of composer's plan.
Schumann left very interesting remarks there: "fast", then "as fast as possible" and after that "FASTER", i.e. faster than possible. ;)
truecrypt 2 years ago 14
Yes, now that I think about it, I do remember that on the music. I guess I'm talking about the last few measures- it's slightly rushed to the point where these people skip over notes. I guess that's what's meant as "faster than possible." I still don't like the sound of it- ruins it a little bit in my opinion.
cslapler007 2 years ago
@truecrypt nur halt in deutsch
jbxd8 7 months ago
goosebumps!! eeek! truly amazing!
flicktwick 2 years ago
Must agree with you. The man was a true marvel!! Eeek indeed.....
HolyMotherofGrid 2 years ago
Inarrivabile. Grandissimo Richter! The best!
nonsolomusicista 2 years ago 3
感動しましました。
classicpiano777 3 years ago 2
Anything Richter plays is going to be magnificent...and he understood Schumann as no other pianist did. Richter always knew how to get to the heart of the music. And his playing was always inspired...never dry or "over-prepared"
soami2u 3 years ago 2
omg... had goosebumps... terrific!!!!!!
flicktwick 3 years ago
This is so beautiful...
pjioayncoe 3 years ago 5
Sì mi piace, perché, a differenza della Argerich che, come al solito deve dimostrare di essere la più veloce, Richter non tralascia espressività e cantabilità in quest'opera furiosa.
DesAbends 3 years ago
This recording od the schumann op22 was in fact my first encounter with Richter more thant 35 years ago!!I was astonished!!!!
Since then I continue gathering his numerous recordings , commercial or not!!
superbemaison 3 years ago
this is much more superior to argerich's. Its actualy beautiful. Not a techniqual thunderstorm. Richter was amazing!
beryllium2 3 years ago 11
I totally agree and there is no doubt that Richter could play it ten times faster but that one is better and clearly more musical.
EilisErina 3 years ago 9
So true!
davealkan 3 years ago 6
....i dun find Argerich's playing "a technical thunderstorm"...
kiwibd 3 years ago
Schumann mi parla...io sento la Sua voce!!!
opera54
povepupe 3 years ago
Thank you for sharing this!
RVqueen 3 years ago 6
my teacher regarded this as one of the hardest in the repetoire as it needed so much overlooked detail and precision. I noow know what she means. It is a test of a real pianist. i like some of this rendition a lot.
chad410 3 years ago 3
Yes, hearing this again after all these years is far from disappointing...
Thanks again, Truecrypt!
That's typical for Schumann to write: "So rasch wie möglich", and then "Schneller", "Noch schneller"!
pianopera 3 years ago 2