@antwnhsless So metal drummers can not appreciate Jazz drumming? However. From my understanding, most metal drummers actually like jazz alot, and look to it for inspiration in many situations.. With that said.. I think most of the jazz players don't look into the different elements of metal drumming. So whose the narrow minded now? Like a smart man (Derrek Roddy) said: "The jazz people should go out and buy a Nile record" And the metal drummers to go watch Pat Metheny.
@blapis89 its not on its own stand. Its on an arm thats goes on into the bass drum like similar to the toms. Its a feature of the Hip Gig kit from Yamaha. Not as solid, clearly. But also clearly quite functional... :)
@jeffc6676 Have you heard (saw) him and his friends playing on the BURNIN FOR BUDDY memorial. That is waaay above just about anything I've heard. Find it. You'll love it.
a 16th note triplet is called such not because the triplet note itself is a 16th note, but because three 16th note triplets will fill the same space on the bar as one 8th note.
You are dividing the space of an 8th note into three parts, and to keep it simple instead of dividing numbers by 3 and coming up with all sorts of garble, it is called a 16th triplet.
Similarly, 32nd triplets are three parts equal to the length of a 16th note.
the thing with Weckl is, that he's brilliant from a technical point of view. Inspirational, amazing. But... the music is crammed with notes and that's why I can't keep listening to it for long. It feels like a tech-demo.
I learned some interesting things from him and I won't even be 1% as good as Weckl, but If I were I'd rather seek musicality in simplicity with those skills.
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS said: "I seriously don't think anyone in the history of drumming has had the unbelievable touch this guy has."
Oh god. Please - I'm begging these Weckheads - please, please, please stop embarrassing yourselves with such unbelievably ignorant comments. You don't know the first thing about jazz, and neither does Weckl. Nothing. I mean, you like Dave and all his chops - fine. That's your choice. Just keep your mouths shut about jazz history. You're ignorant. Stop. Please.
@gretschjazzer They were talking about drums in general, not just jazz. There are respectable genres outside jazz, you know... and you just made yourself look pretty stupid by the way so thanks for the laugh.
i AGREE I have always been a bg fan of Steve Gadd, but I have to say that Dave has some special fluid beauty. Steve is amazing but I have to give Dave that top spot. truly inspirational.
Weckl!!!!....el molde de miles de bateristas en el mundo!!!....todos hemos sido influenciados de alguna manera por el...este sujeto llevo la bateria a otro nivel...DIOS lo siga bendiciendo!!!
Did someone honestly drop Travis barkers name in this thread??? wow... travis barker has one volume, and ive never heard him play anything close to jazz.
weckls the most average drummer in history, nothin more haha you all need to relax. opinions an opinion. deal
The only "fair" drum duet Buddy Rich would have been able to "compete" in would had to of been with Dave Weckl, but sadly, this was unable to happen... Sometime in the afterlife I suppose
Why are you guys still arguing? It's not even possible to just watch a YouTube video these days without scrolling down and seeing two or three goobers going at it OVER THE INTERNET. What are you, 12? Just stop.
@JoeJacari hhaha barker or any top marching percussion guy would disagree with that whole statement there. even the part about you liking travis barker hehe j/k .dave is jazz oriented because he's playing jazz here. he can play everything else too. Barker's pretty good and a real nice guy. I hear he wants to play jazz in the future. I would love to see a super famous guy like that practice his ass off and do it the right way.
@jermo6676 ok so forget about what this kid says about travis barker if you want real explosive playing with a metal style........check out deivis from here comes the kraken and george kolias from nile.....these guys are the 2 fastest recording drummers alive.....a song i recomend is the legend of the rent was way hardcore for deivis and idk any nile songs but just youtube some songs im sure youll find a good one
@JoeJacari hahahaha dave weckl and less techniqueXd travis barker is an amazing technical drummer. you can see that because if you look at his vids there are very deep dents in the middle of his skins. That sais that he hits them on spot every time. But it also means he beats the shit out of his drumset. Technique is never an absolute value. Because if you speed up a lot of the times your technique starts failing. Weckl is amazingly fast and can use his technique with amazing dynamics in volume.
How can people say that Dave can't swing? What? Is he supposed to swing exactly like roads other traveled? Or should we advance on the idea of what swinging could potentially be? And yes, this means that even this brand of swinging should be progressed upon.
@OneSteveUnderGod I won't necessarily get into the "Who's the Best/Better Drummer?" issue - but I can agree with you about Weckl's smooth and fluid qualities...I feel Dogac Titiz has Weckl-like smoothness, too...
Words like "touch" and "smoother" are somewhat vague and subjective. What are we talking about here? time? dynamics?
Drum solos like this represent Weckl at his best. You would be hard-pressed to find a drum set player who could top this. But when dealing with general accompaniment, and ultimately the maturity and intention to serve the music, Tony circa Miles Davis Quintet has the decisive edge.
@OneSteveUnderGod playing this fluid requires practicing the same licks over +over again. Therefor the ideas are pre-concieved. They have nothing to do with the melody of the song or the song form. It's impressive technically, but it's not jazz drumming by any means. It's not real improvisation. Dave is a remarkable fusion/rock drummer, this I agree with. Solo wise though, jazz is about ideas, playing off the song, not a slew of 16th note triplets all up down the drums using rehearsed patterns
@Jazman1942 16th note triplets? What the fuck man? :D
Why, oh why, are there people who complaing about "not having the right feeling" or "he's just technically good, he has no melody" in every fucking genre? Why cannot you ppl see that as Weckl plays he channels what he truly thinks sounds good and feels good, in so fast an improv he must do it with guts, not rationality?
also... why does this complain always come from someone with retarded ideas of music's theory :D
@CaraminTim Whiskey tango foxtrot? Triplets refer to a note that is dividable by 3 from bar's lenght, does it not? As it is exactly how long a note is a 16th triplet? Is it 1/24 of the bar or 1/12 of the bar? O,o
@Isnaard if you divide one bar of a 4/4 measure into 12 triplet notes, you can see it as 8th-note triplets. if you double those notes, so you divide the measure into 24 notes, you have 16th note triplets. Maybe this isn't the correct english word, but it could be that Jazman1942 isn't a native english speaker, and neither am I. In my language (dutch) it's called "sextolen", but I doubt that you'd understand what I'm talking about if I'd just use that term, would you?
@CaraminTim I understand. (not native speaker myself either, btw., but to me your grammar seems correct). I find this very confusing, talking about 16ths when speaking of triplets instead of simply saying 24th's, because that's what they are! In fact, once when talking about a friend w/ musical education I mentioned 16th triplets he corrected me out of it - it's possible he simply recalled wrong the consesus on this.
@Isnaard Why? because there's a history and a tradition that makes jazz what it is. THIS does not swing and it's a bunch of rhythmic diarrhea with no musical purpose within the song structure. That's why. You can either talk nonsense, or you can have a clue Isnaard. So far, you chose Nonsense.
@Jazman1942 I see nothing else but reasoning valid only in a subjective point of view. What you are trying to do here is to define jazz as swing _IF_ you claim it has to resemble swing more than this piece here does. I feel you've missed the progression jazz as a genre has gone through since 1950's, I feel. Listen Kind of Blue one more time and listen this song again - perhaps the raging solos Coltrane plays will make you see the resemblance with the intensity in Weckl's play.
@Jazman1942 I see nothing else but reasoning valid only in a subjective point of view. What you are trying to do here is to define jazz as swing _IF_ you claim it has to resemble swing more than this piece here does. I feel you've missed the progression jazz as a genre has gone through since 1950's, I feel. Listen Kind of Blue one more time and listen this song again - perhaps the raging solos Coltrane plays will make you see the resemblance with the intensity in Weckl's play.
Hayyy!!!!!.....despues de ver esto me dan ganas de vender ganado...que maestro...que sutileza...es casi irreal el nivel de limpieza ,precision y dinamicas de Mr Dave...todo un genio creativo...me voy apracticar...
This isn't a "he's the best ever" statement, but I seriously don't think anyone in the history of drumming has had the unbelievable touch this guy has.
You seriously cannot be any smoother than he is. He's nearly pristine to an unfathomable degree.
He's my all time favorite for sure with several notable equal to or close seconds.
@jviola04 Sorry. Neil has nowhere NEAR the touch that jazz drummers have. He has chops, but have you ever heard him play a big band chart? He's stiffer than the bodies at my uncles funeral home. I've never heard him lay down a standard with a combo either.....
@BeatProfessor first thing thts pretty bad tht u say tht about your uncle second u gotta say the guy is incredible and he's been playin in jazz things now and even got taught by a jazz teacher its my opinion but i thing neil is really really talented and a facinating drummer again my opinion
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS Anyone in the history of drumming? Please...listen to more music. Everyone thinks that this drummer is a jazz drummer. Sure he may play fusion but he is hardly a jazz drummer in my book. From what I can see from this video, he does a lot of smashing and filling up the music with bombastic fills.
Can't be any smoother than him? What about Jo Jones? Max Roach?
Many have that approach and Weckl's no exception....but he was heavily influenced by Steve Gadd who did the most to change the face of modern drumming.
I think it's just a regular HipGig set, could be wrong. Sounds like the sort of tuning he goes for on his regular set, with the slight pitch bend going down on the toms, mid/high tension on the snare drum and a punchy, short bass drum. To my ears it sounds like a 4th between the floor and high tom. Hope this helps (Y)
I have this DVD, and i always fast forward to this part every time i watch it. It still gives me inspiration, especially when coming up with soloing concepts. It's no quite straight ahead jazz, it sounds more like be-bop which is great.
@phatphace bebop is straight ahead jazz....and even if you think it isn't....this right here is not bebop. Please, open a book, listen to more music or at least read wikipedia. Not to be a jerk....but just sayin'.
@phatphace Alright, I was simply correcting you saying that bebop is straight ahead jazz in these days and times. The better part of this video is free floating like fusion. Bebop is labeled as straight ahead because it's just that, straight. It's a linear motion type of piece. It goes through a head solo head, I'd say that's pretty straight ahead. I'm in no way trying to label this song, just informing you but sure you know all this, I was just being an asshole is all, my apologies.
@slick82958 By no means were you being an asshole, i was simply under the impression that be-bop lends itself to the option of being swung whereas straight ahead jazz doesn't. The initial feel of the piece is what i would classify as be-bop; however, now i'm not entirely sure that would be correct.
@phatphace Well, bebop definitely has swing to it (although there are great debates on this and what "swing" actually is and how far you can bend it). Bebop is known for speed but although there is speed, does not necessarily mean that it does not swing. Acoustic jazz is generally straight ahead, swing, cool, bebop, hard bop. When you get into post bop, free, electric, fusion, that type is not straight. Yes, the initial beginning of this piece definitely has a bebop feel.
You`re right. It is the special dry ride. Probably it was a prototype back then, but it is the same sound. I seen and heard the Steve Smith Hysory of the US beat DVD soo many times that I could recognise that ride from 1000 others.
damn. i like him here. he went loose for that, really like got into the music and is more in the exploring mood than in, hm, "governing" as usual.
odolany 3 days ago
well....i think we ve got 5 metal drummers threre
antwnhsless 1 week ago
@antwnhsless So metal drummers can not appreciate Jazz drumming? However. From my understanding, most metal drummers actually like jazz alot, and look to it for inspiration in many situations.. With that said.. I think most of the jazz players don't look into the different elements of metal drumming. So whose the narrow minded now? Like a smart man (Derrek Roddy) said: "The jazz people should go out and buy a Nile record" And the metal drummers to go watch Pat Metheny.
- Regards.
sempthegreat 4 days ago
Your an amazing drummer, but give Ritsu her drums back! :p (you'll get it if you watch k-on)
J35T3R33 3 weeks ago
smokin' !!!!!!
mineheadX1 1 month ago
Watching jazz drummers like him is so flluidly beautiful.
ellaswing 1 month ago
I kind of giggled a little bit at the awesomeness
JiBenJiBee 1 month ago
Wish i knew what model snare drum that is, sounds amazing, great sounding kit too,
LeeHaydn 1 month ago
dave weckl's pretty good at drums, huh
okaystrygwyr 1 month ago
o my fukn God.Just riding like a litle tinny tight ho
marinastone8 1 month ago
he's thinking, "where's my other 10 drums and 30 cymbals at?"
stixs2005 1 month ago
that right foot is amazing
Fluffhea8d 2 months ago
Is that snare drum mounted to the BASS DRUM? THAT IS BRILLIANT.
gaigewilderdrums 2 months ago
why is the snare moving so much?isnt it making dave nervous?
blapis89 2 months ago
@blapis89 its not on its own stand. Its on an arm thats goes on into the bass drum like similar to the toms. Its a feature of the Hip Gig kit from Yamaha. Not as solid, clearly. But also clearly quite functional... :)
TheB0P 2 months ago
Very few players are as smooth and fluid as Dave Weckl. This exemplifies that.
DrummerBRYCE 3 months ago
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DrummerBRYCE 3 months ago
This just might be the best thing i've ever heard weckl play holy jesus!
jeffc6676 4 months ago 4
@jeffc6676 Yeah, he plays a lot of funk. But I LOVE his swing playing. Lots of notes, tons of fast chops but very melodic. Great stuff!
dangerics 4 months ago
@jeffc6676 Have you heard (saw) him and his friends playing on the BURNIN FOR BUDDY memorial. That is waaay above just about anything I've heard. Find it. You'll love it.
Tburg1958 2 months ago
a 16th note triplet is called such not because the triplet note itself is a 16th note, but because three 16th note triplets will fill the same space on the bar as one 8th note.
You are dividing the space of an 8th note into three parts, and to keep it simple instead of dividing numbers by 3 and coming up with all sorts of garble, it is called a 16th triplet.
Similarly, 32nd triplets are three parts equal to the length of a 16th note.
thegreatNEb 5 months ago in playlist Drums
Oh, Dave is on the 2 tom toms simple drum set.
1968koji 5 months ago
!!!
okti666 5 months ago
He's playing beautifully here. Great flow, and touch.
danlc95 6 months ago
the thing with Weckl is, that he's brilliant from a technical point of view. Inspirational, amazing. But... the music is crammed with notes and that's why I can't keep listening to it for long. It feels like a tech-demo.
I learned some interesting things from him and I won't even be 1% as good as Weckl, but If I were I'd rather seek musicality in simplicity with those skills.
dacloo 6 months ago
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS said: "I seriously don't think anyone in the history of drumming has had the unbelievable touch this guy has."
Oh god. Please - I'm begging these Weckheads - please, please, please stop embarrassing yourselves with such unbelievably ignorant comments. You don't know the first thing about jazz, and neither does Weckl. Nothing. I mean, you like Dave and all his chops - fine. That's your choice. Just keep your mouths shut about jazz history. You're ignorant. Stop. Please.
gretschjazzer 6 months ago
@gretschjazzer They were talking about drums in general, not just jazz. There are respectable genres outside jazz, you know... and you just made yourself look pretty stupid by the way so thanks for the laugh.
ScreamxBloodyxGore 5 months ago
i AGREE I have always been a bg fan of Steve Gadd, but I have to say that Dave has some special fluid beauty. Steve is amazing but I have to give Dave that top spot. truly inspirational.
caetlin1343 6 months ago
surely he was missing his set
4everdrummin 6 months ago
I think I hit the like button as many times as he hit the drums.
stupidhatonthefloor3 6 months ago 18
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A song full of knowledge and experience..! @1.58 omg
jimcloser 7 months ago
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jimcloser 7 months ago
usually im a classic rock guy but this Jazz stuff is great!
Nickdiaublow 7 months ago 10
Weckl!!!!....el molde de miles de bateristas en el mundo!!!....todos hemos sido influenciados de alguna manera por el...este sujeto llevo la bateria a otro nivel...DIOS lo siga bendiciendo!!!
juanfecruz 7 months ago
Did someone honestly drop Travis barkers name in this thread??? wow... travis barker has one volume, and ive never heard him play anything close to jazz.
weckls the most average drummer in history, nothin more haha you all need to relax. opinions an opinion. deal
draxelsson 7 months ago
OneSteve Under God
Tony Williams gave birth to Weckl.
Jo Jones was Fred Astaire on traps.
Cease and desist your inane, uninformed banter.
Easleytee 8 months ago
is this is manu katche hipgig?
jjp9727 9 months ago
Mind Boggling at Best!
semiLivedj 9 months ago
i think tony williams is a way better drummer although dave weckl sounds amzing in this!!
ShluberyDuberyDooDoo 9 months ago
@ShluberyDuberyDooDoo I think you're right.
diggingditch41 5 months ago
Watch the change in hand technique at 1:56 and around 1:59 to play those singles...
storagedog33 9 months ago
Once again, confusing White horn players on what to do during a drum solo...and, um, no sir you can't count it..
Mr.Weckl!
CoachG1000 10 months ago
The only "fair" drum duet Buddy Rich would have been able to "compete" in would had to of been with Dave Weckl, but sadly, this was unable to happen... Sometime in the afterlife I suppose
420drummerguy 10 months ago
ernie watts ballin, and dave weckl surely is not human, no way
paisteguy799 10 months ago
brilliant
brentonius12 10 months ago
Dave Weckl floats across the kit . It's a beautiful thing to watch !. Smooth baby smooth :-]
TheChiFlows 10 months ago
where is the timekeeping...
martian142 11 months ago
Ritsu!
DrDavidColmenar 11 months ago
@DrDavidColmenar BEAT ME TO IT
maidenfan10210 11 months ago
Why are you guys still arguing? It's not even possible to just watch a YouTube video these days without scrolling down and seeing two or three goobers going at it OVER THE INTERNET. What are you, 12? Just stop.
spacitydrummer4JC 11 months ago
its not like that its true of max roach and elvin jones but his have his style a if sound great its ok.....
razor131001 11 months ago
that ride is perfection
thomascompton800 11 months ago
uuuuuuuhhhhh.............
greatlaw 1 year ago
that ride is tastyyyy
HunterGathera 1 year ago
@HunterGathera
which ride?
brraatt 1 year ago
@brraatt haha! good point actually, i mean the really dry, dark ride hes using to shuffle on
HunterGathera 1 year ago
@HunterGathera
agreedddd its a sweeet ride
brraatt 1 year ago
woooooowww this is fuckin wicked!!
HunterGathera 1 year ago
hmm the drums seem to be shaking quite alot
McYaballow 1 year ago
Beautiful drumming.
jdrum12 1 year ago
why do all jazz guys feel they can get away with having conversations on stage... so unprofessional...
PattyWhomperOFFICIAL 1 year ago
@PattyWhomperOFFICIAL wtf you talking about
equallyeasilyfuqyou 1 year ago
@DrummerRF
K.
JoeJacari 1 year ago
I have a video on my channel of this clip in half speed, if someone is interested! Ciao
jensfreak 1 year ago
absolutely amazing...true talent
vertigo2112 1 year ago
1:57 i just cant get enough of how smooth that roll is!!!!!
drumm1n09 1 year ago
I like Travis Barker.
But I think this drummer is pretty good.
Barker flies upside down & jams out like a lunatic on fire.
This guy's a little less on the technique and more jazz oriented and what have you.
I think drummers like this are cool for when you go out with your family to Circus Circus casino in Reno and have a $3.99 breakfast buffet.
Drummers like Travis Barker are marching band percussion wizards on another plane of crazy enduro, Pro Am drumming and explosive zest.
JoeJacari 1 year ago
@JoeJacari hhaha barker or any top marching percussion guy would disagree with that whole statement there. even the part about you liking travis barker hehe j/k .dave is jazz oriented because he's playing jazz here. he can play everything else too. Barker's pretty good and a real nice guy. I hear he wants to play jazz in the future. I would love to see a super famous guy like that practice his ass off and do it the right way.
jermo6676 1 year ago
@jermo6676 ok so forget about what this kid says about travis barker if you want real explosive playing with a metal style........check out deivis from here comes the kraken and george kolias from nile.....these guys are the 2 fastest recording drummers alive.....a song i recomend is the legend of the rent was way hardcore for deivis and idk any nile songs but just youtube some songs im sure youll find a good one
crazycarp16 1 year ago
@JoeJacari hahahaha dave weckl and less techniqueXd travis barker is an amazing technical drummer. you can see that because if you look at his vids there are very deep dents in the middle of his skins. That sais that he hits them on spot every time. But it also means he beats the shit out of his drumset. Technique is never an absolute value. Because if you speed up a lot of the times your technique starts failing. Weckl is amazingly fast and can use his technique with amazing dynamics in volume.
DrummerRF 1 year ago
Definitly a drum kit I would be iterrested in trying. Looks like it would be an awesome tour set and that chair is a match.
driftpick1125 1 year ago
even on that dinky mini kit he sounds amazing...def one of the all time greats
TheLapbander 1 year ago
His style is so fluid I love it!
Reilloc13 1 year ago
How can people say that Dave can't swing? What? Is he supposed to swing exactly like roads other traveled? Or should we advance on the idea of what swinging could potentially be? And yes, this means that even this brand of swinging should be progressed upon.
Xformat01 1 year ago
bah...questo non è un vero batterista jazz
palanzana 1 year ago
@palanzana infatti questo è un pezzo latin jazz e non jazz il che è molto diverso..
PEHIO 1 year ago
lol he's using his set case as a throne.
dirkslater 1 year ago
@dirkslater well it IS designed for that, it's basically a canister throne like in the old days.
sgtpepper1138 1 year ago
rick marotta or al foster set? ;s
Villiaam 1 year ago
@Villiaam Rick Marotta, you can tell cos of the smaller bass drum, it's in yellow and it's got the barrel throne you put all of the hardware in :-)
Timmyboy1717 1 year ago
This is a "he's the best ever" statement.
RedeyeSPR 1 year ago
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Remarkable. No one can touch his musicality or the fluidity of his execution on the kit. No one.
jdaniel220 1 year ago
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jdaniel220 1 year ago
No drummer who has ever lived has been smoother than Dave Weckl. It is uncanny how fluid this man plays.
OneSteveUnderGod 1 year ago 16
@OneSteveUnderGod I won't necessarily get into the "Who's the Best/Better Drummer?" issue - but I can agree with you about Weckl's smooth and fluid qualities...I feel Dogac Titiz has Weckl-like smoothness, too...
davss5 1 year ago
@OneSteveUnderGod gary novak plays fucking smooth dude, but thats about it, maybe will kennedy too
paisteguy799 8 months ago
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS
Words like "touch" and "smoother" are somewhat vague and subjective. What are we talking about here? time? dynamics?
Drum solos like this represent Weckl at his best. You would be hard-pressed to find a drum set player who could top this. But when dealing with general accompaniment, and ultimately the maturity and intention to serve the music, Tony circa Miles Davis Quintet has the decisive edge.
diggingditch41 5 months ago
@OneSteveUnderGod Agreed. And he does it all trditional grip to boot. Just unreal...
Trekker1801 5 months ago
@OneSteveUnderGod playing this fluid requires practicing the same licks over +over again. Therefor the ideas are pre-concieved. They have nothing to do with the melody of the song or the song form. It's impressive technically, but it's not jazz drumming by any means. It's not real improvisation. Dave is a remarkable fusion/rock drummer, this I agree with. Solo wise though, jazz is about ideas, playing off the song, not a slew of 16th note triplets all up down the drums using rehearsed patterns
Jazman1942 5 months ago
@Jazman1942 16th note triplets? What the fuck man? :D
Why, oh why, are there people who complaing about "not having the right feeling" or "he's just technically good, he has no melody" in every fucking genre? Why cannot you ppl see that as Weckl plays he channels what he truly thinks sounds good and feels good, in so fast an improv he must do it with guts, not rationality?
also... why does this complain always come from someone with retarded ideas of music's theory :D
Isnaard 5 months ago
@Isnaard Actually, 16th triplets is quite correct... Know your shit
CaraminTim 5 months ago
@CaraminTim Whiskey tango foxtrot? Triplets refer to a note that is dividable by 3 from bar's lenght, does it not? As it is exactly how long a note is a 16th triplet? Is it 1/24 of the bar or 1/12 of the bar? O,o
Isnaard 5 months ago
@Isnaard if you divide one bar of a 4/4 measure into 12 triplet notes, you can see it as 8th-note triplets. if you double those notes, so you divide the measure into 24 notes, you have 16th note triplets. Maybe this isn't the correct english word, but it could be that Jazman1942 isn't a native english speaker, and neither am I. In my language (dutch) it's called "sextolen", but I doubt that you'd understand what I'm talking about if I'd just use that term, would you?
CaraminTim 5 months ago
@CaraminTim I understand. (not native speaker myself either, btw., but to me your grammar seems correct). I find this very confusing, talking about 16ths when speaking of triplets instead of simply saying 24th's, because that's what they are! In fact, once when talking about a friend w/ musical education I mentioned 16th triplets he corrected me out of it - it's possible he simply recalled wrong the consesus on this.
Isnaard 5 months ago
@CaraminTim haha tim spast
klaasdesomer 3 months ago
@klaasdesomer hey klaas
CaraminTim 3 months ago
@Isnaard Why? because there's a history and a tradition that makes jazz what it is. THIS does not swing and it's a bunch of rhythmic diarrhea with no musical purpose within the song structure. That's why. You can either talk nonsense, or you can have a clue Isnaard. So far, you chose Nonsense.
Jazman1942 5 months ago
@Jazman1942 I see nothing else but reasoning valid only in a subjective point of view. What you are trying to do here is to define jazz as swing _IF_ you claim it has to resemble swing more than this piece here does. I feel you've missed the progression jazz as a genre has gone through since 1950's, I feel. Listen Kind of Blue one more time and listen this song again - perhaps the raging solos Coltrane plays will make you see the resemblance with the intensity in Weckl's play.
Isnaard 4 months ago
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@Jazman1942 I see nothing else but reasoning valid only in a subjective point of view. What you are trying to do here is to define jazz as swing _IF_ you claim it has to resemble swing more than this piece here does. I feel you've missed the progression jazz as a genre has gone through since 1950's, I feel. Listen Kind of Blue one more time and listen this song again - perhaps the raging solos Coltrane plays will make you see the resemblance with the intensity in Weckl's play.
Isnaard 4 months ago
@Jazman1942 i'm sure you could do much better right?
thomascompton800 4 months ago
@Isnaard my friend, you have been enlightened with the truth!!!!
MrsStudivent 4 months ago
that ernie watts?
dasjestyr 1 year ago
His snare "slap shots" are truly key. Amazing no matter how you looook at it. Educational every time.
benslooking4junk 1 year ago
Forever an inspiration to not only real drummers, but musicians out there =)
JVThrillz 1 year ago
Wow, I love the silky tom / snare flow. Harkens back to the old legends, yet, ultra- modern! Cymbal blend is out of this world. Amazing!
benslooking4junk 1 year ago
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benslooking4junk 1 year ago
Hayyy!!!!!.....despues de ver esto me dan ganas de vender ganado...que maestro...que sutileza...es casi irreal el nivel de limpieza ,precision y dinamicas de Mr Dave...todo un genio creativo...me voy apracticar...
batero3321 1 year ago
this isn't the hipgig snare is it??
Bosphorus92 1 year ago
@Bosphorus92 It looks like it is because it's mounted on the bass drum.
Paitsch 1 year ago
@Bosphorus92 is his sig snare
apexpein39 1 year ago
...did that really just happen??!!
HippieDrummer06 1 year ago
I have an Al Foster Hip Gig and those toms are just so addicting to hit!
BipolarBowler 1 year ago
This isn't a "he's the best ever" statement, but I seriously don't think anyone in the history of drumming has had the unbelievable touch this guy has.
You seriously cannot be any smoother than he is. He's nearly pristine to an unfathomable degree.
He's my all time favorite for sure with several notable equal to or close seconds.
LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS 1 year ago 41
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS this is my opinion but i say neil peart is pretty close to your statement
jviola04 1 year ago
@jviola04 Sorry. Neil has nowhere NEAR the touch that jazz drummers have. He has chops, but have you ever heard him play a big band chart? He's stiffer than the bodies at my uncles funeral home. I've never heard him lay down a standard with a combo either.....
BeatProfessor 1 year ago
@BeatProfessor first thing thts pretty bad tht u say tht about your uncle second u gotta say the guy is incredible and he's been playin in jazz things now and even got taught by a jazz teacher its my opinion but i thing neil is really really talented and a facinating drummer again my opinion
jviola04 1 year ago
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS Anyone in the history of drumming? Please...listen to more music. Everyone thinks that this drummer is a jazz drummer. Sure he may play fusion but he is hardly a jazz drummer in my book. From what I can see from this video, he does a lot of smashing and filling up the music with bombastic fills.
Can't be any smoother than him? What about Jo Jones? Max Roach?
slick82958 11 months ago
@slick82958 no.
vtmike13 11 months ago
@vtmike13 lol.
slick82958 11 months ago
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS respect for giving a totally cool politically correct comment bro
aakkoin 9 months ago
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS well travis barkers good at jazz has the same smooth approach
afabandjon 8 months ago
@afabandjon do you anything about drumming?
SimonLandryMusic 8 months ago
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27dedrummer 8 months ago
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS
Many have that approach and Weckl's no exception....but he was heavily influenced by Steve Gadd who did the most to change the face of modern drumming.
APL2RNG 8 months ago
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS Buddy Rich has Dave beat. Im sure even Dave would admit that.
sbowman128675 8 months ago
@LaNgUiDlY47AmBiTiOuS In the words of the double rainbow guy, "what does it mean?!" lol
diggingditch41 5 months ago
i'm so confused as to how Dave Weckl makes a hipgig set sound like that. Impossible.
masterful playing as always, though
pazootka 2 years ago
One of the BEST videos representing Daves deep passion and talent for drumming. A true master of jazz!
circleslammer 2 years ago
he's playing the Yamaha Rick Marotta series HipGig. Does anybody know how he has it tuned?
jsdrumcapt 2 years ago
@jsdrumcapt Pretty damn well, I would say :)
DyamiDrumz 2 years ago
I think it's just a regular HipGig set, could be wrong. Sounds like the sort of tuning he goes for on his regular set, with the slight pitch bend going down on the toms, mid/high tension on the snare drum and a punchy, short bass drum. To my ears it sounds like a 4th between the floor and high tom. Hope this helps (Y)
paulo101 2 years ago
Does anybody know the model of snare drum Dave Weckl plays in this video?
gronabien 2 years ago
customized dave weckl series snare drum i think its the 5x13" model with a yess mount
circleslammer 2 years ago
i love what dave does with this setup. different setups trigger different ideas and dave sounds awesome with the hip gig.
mcufre 2 years ago
does anybody know the sizes of that snare?
corronchito 2 years ago
13 x 5-inch
Geeljasjes 2 years ago
Which artis series hipgig is this?
yeah456456 2 years ago
the cymbals compliment each other so beautifully!
Bosphorus92 2 years ago
Who let this over-rated bum in!! :) I'M JOKING!! Dave is effing amazing. He's got more talent in his poop than most people have in their whole body.
SaintGnarly 2 years ago
wow dave is bananers! cool kit too
272Christopher 2 years ago
that snare mount from the bass drum seems a little precarious but a cool kit none the less.. weckl is fluid
squirrelybirdy 2 years ago
I love this drum set!
carl9z 2 years ago
Is it also possible to use double-bass pedals for a bass drum that high? Can Axis work?
kssael 2 years ago
can anyone identify wat ride is it on the right?
atks22 2 years ago
k custom dry light ride or special dry
westhofer8 2 years ago
Actually I think he's just using a smaller bass drum and he's sitting on his floor tom. ;o)
frogpelt 2 years ago
His throne is the case for the entire kit. That is a bass drum.
Timmyinc44 2 years ago 2
It's the hardware case for the hipgig.
CoheedMars90 2 years ago
look up the yamaha hip gig. that's the throne that comes with the kit. it's also a hardware case
westhofer8 2 years ago
Haha hes using his floor tom as a bass drumm...
(And that is possible)
VicenteKidd 2 years ago
he's using his bass drum as a bass drum
sidneyblair 2 years ago
Haha ur right :P
VicenteKidd 2 years ago
naah man it's a hip gig. they're made that small. check 'em out sometime
BlackHawk2029 2 years ago
Is he really playing this quietly intense or is it the mix?
wedshooter1234 2 years ago
no.
detulid 2 years ago
can anyone tell me what size the two main cymbals are? I think it might be 18 on left and 20 on right side.
Francislikesdrums 2 years ago
I have this DVD, and i always fast forward to this part every time i watch it. It still gives me inspiration, especially when coming up with soloing concepts. It's no quite straight ahead jazz, it sounds more like be-bop which is great.
phatphace 2 years ago 13
brings a tear to me eye..
hey phil :D
jstod66 2 years ago 2
@phatphace bebop is straight ahead jazz....and even if you think it isn't....this right here is not bebop. Please, open a book, listen to more music or at least read wikipedia. Not to be a jerk....but just sayin'.
slick82958 11 months ago
@slick82958 How would you label the style of this piece?
phatphace 10 months ago
@phatphace Alright, I was simply correcting you saying that bebop is straight ahead jazz in these days and times. The better part of this video is free floating like fusion. Bebop is labeled as straight ahead because it's just that, straight. It's a linear motion type of piece. It goes through a head solo head, I'd say that's pretty straight ahead. I'm in no way trying to label this song, just informing you but sure you know all this, I was just being an asshole is all, my apologies.
slick82958 10 months ago
@slick82958 By no means were you being an asshole, i was simply under the impression that be-bop lends itself to the option of being swung whereas straight ahead jazz doesn't. The initial feel of the piece is what i would classify as be-bop; however, now i'm not entirely sure that would be correct.
phatphace 10 months ago
@phatphace Well, bebop definitely has swing to it (although there are great debates on this and what "swing" actually is and how far you can bend it). Bebop is known for speed but although there is speed, does not necessarily mean that it does not swing. Acoustic jazz is generally straight ahead, swing, cool, bebop, hard bop. When you get into post bop, free, electric, fusion, that type is not straight. Yes, the initial beginning of this piece definitely has a bebop feel.
slick82958 10 months ago
this is one of my favorite sets. it sounds spectacular.
and looks like there's a k custom special dry ride in there. or maybe its a light dry ride. nice either way
westhofer8 2 years ago
You`re right. It is the special dry ride. Probably it was a prototype back then, but it is the same sound. I seen and heard the Steve Smith Hysory of the US beat DVD soo many times that I could recognise that ride from 1000 others.
benedictstefan 2 years ago 4
sbavvv...la yamaha hipgig rick marotta è troppo bella...e weckl è un grande!!!
usciere85 3 years ago 2