One thing I don't understand at the end of his training Bruce prefers to spare a criminal by killing a lot of good guys so he wouldn't have to kill........?
@MrMellish50 Our actions are dictated by our paradigm. Whether consciously or unconsciously, we act out of a result of who we see ourselves as. The problem we all experience is that we have a fundamental misunderstanding of who we really are, thus our constant efforts to define who we are and who we are to become. When we decide who it is we truly wish to be, we begin the slow and long process of walking it out. Our actions begin to align with our new paradigm over time. It's a process.
@jalyias And i disagree LOL. People define you by what you do, they don't care about who you are! You could be a good person, if you dont act, no one will know it, but if you do, that's what defines you to people ^^
@jalyias I dont want to come off as rude, but I find I disagree with you. If I offered an argument that tightened your logic a little, would you read it seriously?
@ShorthandOfEmotion Dont need to, Batman Begins is great, and i loved the idea of exposing how Bruce became Batman. Simply put, what i'm saying is ... in fact, see EGarrett01's first comment, because i feel the same. Bale is just not credible enough for the tortured Bruce. That 's my personal opinion though.
Don't get me wrong, i love Nolan's Batmans, but i prefer Burton's Batman's personality; Keaton is not a bulky Batman, but he is a complex Batman. Nolan's Batman realism on how Wayne trained and got all his equipment is really great, but i also appreciate Burton's idea of a shady Batman who draws his strength from his sorrow and past. Moreover, the scene at the beginning when they are in the warriors'room suggests Wayne had gone around the world to learn from different cultures how to fight.
@Donkishottomfg where do you think bruce got the strength to train.... "my anger outweights my guilt".. learn your stuff before you cut down the best comic book movie series out there.
I'm with you. Nolan's films are great despite Bale, not because of him. Bale is too happy for me. He doesn't give me the impression of someone who's obsessed or dark or important. He worked well as Patrick Bateman because Bateman's shallowness made him ironic and funny as a serial killer. Batman is not ironically disturbed. He's genuinely a tortured hero. Even when he's happy, he's not REALLY happy. Actually, I think the animated series voice-actor does this perfectly.
Batman is too happy? What? Did we watch the same film? Please elaborate on that.
I'm pretty sure Keaton's Batman is more 'happy' than Bale's. Also, I like how you say that Batman is a tortured hero, and then say the animated series had the best Batman; because he wasn't a tortured hero in the animated series!
I said BALE acts too happy. I said the VOICE ACTOR in the animated series does a good job of being a guy who has an undercurrent of darkness to his personality even when he's pretending to be Bruce Wayne.
It almost seems like he's struggling not to tell her what he's *really* been up to, but in the end he realizes that he'd better not let anyone - even Rachel - suspect a thing. Bruce is well-known for going to extreme lengths to keep his identity a secret, even risking his life by refusing to use his skills as Bruce Wayne, so maybe we can interpret this as kind of the beginning of that. ^_^;
Perfect quote. To bad we live in a society where most people think that it's there words that define them. Actions speak a hell of a lot louder than words.
@Buli0n Well I think he's the best batman, George Clooney was George Clooney dressed up in the batman mask and micheal keaton i guess was alright, but I kinda feel that Bale takes it to a better level.
@Buli0n *Shakes your hand vigorously* Yes yes. I agree with you a hundred percent. When I try to explain that Bale is my favorite BW but not my favorite Batman, people always shoot me a look and say, "Aren't they the same thing?" To which I scream "NO!! It's not the same effing thing!!"
And then they shoot me another look and walk/run away :-(
@kogiama YES i totally agree with you even though i havnt seen any other batman movies. The thing that he isnt to mutch is what defines him to be the best batman, It is a very good movie! better then the second one in my opinion.
@Buli0n sorry mate, but Micheal Keaton IS both the best Batman and Bruce Wayne. Physically though, Wale has more arguments, but keaton has more depth.
@Donkishottomfg what? keaton? never found him good bruce ;| people saying that tim burton's movies are like watching comic books, i disagree, bruce in comics is a playboy and womanizer, keaton looks more like a sissy, and batman fighting skills in burton's movies are doubtful.
@Buli0n I must disagree with all you've said except indeed Bale looks more like a womanizer than Keaton only if we understand womanizer as someone at the same time superficial, if not, then Keaton is also a womanizer, and then i prefer his style : just take the beginning of Burton's 1992 Batman when Wayne sees for the first time Kim Basinger; at the very first glance he knew he had to go to her and have her ! And Wayne is not pretending he's a womanizer beacause, he is . In a more subtle way.
Tim Burton's Bruce Wayne is very careless, Vicky Vale and Selina Kyle didn't need much time to figure out Batman's identity, he even shows himself to Shreck ;/ as i said also his fighting skills are doubtful - no training, killing(sic!), drinking with Selina etc. Nolan's Batman doesn't do stuff like this, Burton's movies are great Batman experience, climatic and dark,full of details, with this raw feeling,watching Keaton as a Bruce isn't bad, but i can't see his pain and "playboy's mask".
@Buli0n Let's forget the second Burton's Batman, Burton himself said he disapproved of what he did with this film, his having a tight schedule to direct it had some responsability in it. As for the first film, as far as i remember Vicky Vale did not figure out he was Batman since it is Alfred who introduces her into the secret room. Burton's Batman may be killing, but he did not turn himself in deliberately as Bale does in the clip of this page.
@Donkishottomfg yes, alfred showed her batcave... i was so dissapointed, how can you be so careless? im asking again, don't get me wrong, i love this movie( batman 1989) much, but it's different batman experience. and seriously, when i hear "batman" i think about Jim Lee's drawings, and Kevin Conroy's voice ;)
@Buli0n (Sorry i thought of this clip youtube.com/watch?v=PmwLPU5H6_Q&feature=related). (in my second comment i made a mistake, i was thinking of the 1989 Burton's film, not 1992's). Alfred is not careless, it is his will that Bruce get a woman and settle down, so he does not get kill i guess. You can notice that earlier in the film.
@Buli0n He's the best Batman! Ru kidding? If not him then who? MIchael Keaton to me is a distant 2nd. You can't have great Bruce Wayne without Batman and vice versa. They come hand in hand.
@Buli0n Keaton is the best Bruce Wayne. If somebody told you Bale was batman you will say. Oh yeah I suppose. He was acting strange like he is hiding something.
And Keaton.... there were even petitions to take him out of the cast. ppl cant imagine he is Batman. Perfect.
@Buli0n I agree about he being the best Bruce Wayne, but come on who is the best batman in your opinion, Michael Keaton, George Clooney maybe that guy from Batman Dead End is the best one.
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The Spiderman love is far more beautiful than this. The upside down kiss is movie history! I'm a boxer and I swooned! I really want to show off to get you but I can't. How frustrating!!!Puting the bin out??? Marvel will always beat DC!
So why don't be unforgiven
yesnielsen 3 days ago
they were right, she acts like shit
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One thing I don't understand at the end of his training Bruce prefers to spare a criminal by killing a lot of good guys so he wouldn't have to kill........?
WatchmenDrManhattan 2 months ago
....maybe it's the other way around. Maybe it's WHO YOU ARE that defines what you do.
danmandhk 2 months ago 3
Behind every great man there's a great woman- Winston Churchill
TheUnrealStudios 2 months ago
@MrMellish50 Our actions are dictated by our paradigm. Whether consciously or unconsciously, we act out of a result of who we see ourselves as. The problem we all experience is that we have a fundamental misunderstanding of who we really are, thus our constant efforts to define who we are and who we are to become. When we decide who it is we truly wish to be, we begin the slow and long process of walking it out. Our actions begin to align with our new paradigm over time. It's a process.
jalyias 2 months ago
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@HedgehogRebellion Please tighten away.
jalyias 2 months ago
and then he went "it's what I dooooooooooooooooooo, that defines me. I'm Batman"
marcusduck 4 months ago
Best Quote in The Dark Knight: /watch?v=_10pSWH9g3Q
Bane391 4 months ago
I disagree. We are defined by who we are, not what we do.
jalyias 4 months ago
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@jalyias And i disagree LOL. People define you by what you do, they don't care about who you are! You could be a good person, if you dont act, no one will know it, but if you do, that's what defines you to people ^^
missjay012 4 months ago
@jalyias I dont want to come off as rude, but I find I disagree with you. If I offered an argument that tightened your logic a little, would you read it seriously?
HedgehogRebellion 2 months ago
@jalyias then what defines who you are if its not what you do?
MrMellish50 2 months ago
She always knew.
seekhim777 4 months ago
Bale loved The Batman comics and they figure he was the bvest man for the job and so Do I.
seekhim777 5 months ago 2
@ShorthandOfEmotion Dont need to, Batman Begins is great, and i loved the idea of exposing how Bruce became Batman. Simply put, what i'm saying is ... in fact, see EGarrett01's first comment, because i feel the same. Bale is just not credible enough for the tortured Bruce. That 's my personal opinion though.
Donkishottomfg 5 months ago
She is such a terrible actress. Not even a hint of "organicness "
MrMaryJanes 6 months ago
Patrick BATEMAN, is BATMAN aswell. :)
VirginTAKER3600 6 months ago
god katie holmes blows
cctc11891 7 months ago 3
Maggie Gyllenhaal was a better Rachel. Had better chemistry with Christian Bale.
Atreus21 7 months ago
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this movie is boring as fuck.
thefoilerlives 8 months ago
Don't get me wrong, i love Nolan's Batmans, but i prefer Burton's Batman's personality; Keaton is not a bulky Batman, but he is a complex Batman. Nolan's Batman realism on how Wayne trained and got all his equipment is really great, but i also appreciate Burton's idea of a shady Batman who draws his strength from his sorrow and past. Moreover, the scene at the beginning when they are in the warriors'room suggests Wayne had gone around the world to learn from different cultures how to fight.
Donkishottomfg 10 months ago
@Donkishottomfg where do you think bruce got the strength to train.... "my anger outweights my guilt".. learn your stuff before you cut down the best comic book movie series out there.
cr33pyGamer 10 months ago
@Donkishottomfg
I'm with you. Nolan's films are great despite Bale, not because of him. Bale is too happy for me. He doesn't give me the impression of someone who's obsessed or dark or important. He worked well as Patrick Bateman because Bateman's shallowness made him ironic and funny as a serial killer. Batman is not ironically disturbed. He's genuinely a tortured hero. Even when he's happy, he's not REALLY happy. Actually, I think the animated series voice-actor does this perfectly.
EGarrett01 8 months ago
@EGarrett01
Batman is too happy? What? Did we watch the same film? Please elaborate on that.
I'm pretty sure Keaton's Batman is more 'happy' than Bale's. Also, I like how you say that Batman is a tortured hero, and then say the animated series had the best Batman; because he wasn't a tortured hero in the animated series!
RS1Comedy1Vids 7 months ago
@RS1Comedy1Vids
I said BALE acts too happy. I said the VOICE ACTOR in the animated series does a good job of being a guy who has an undercurrent of darkness to his personality even when he's pretending to be Bruce Wayne.
EGarrett01 7 months ago
@EGarrett01
If Bale's Bruce Wayne acts too happy, then his Batman is the best, since no one will suspect the happy, partying Bruce Wayne for Batman.
RS1Comedy1Vids 7 months ago
@RS1Comedy1Vids
If that's the case then hire Carrot Top. No one would suspect him at all.
EGarrett01 7 months ago
@EGarrett01
That could work, if he could pull off Batman as well.
RS1Comedy1Vids 7 months ago
@EGarrett01
lmao!epic line!
parit1081 7 months ago
sengh 0:23
uandf 10 months ago
bruce got pwned!!!
lordrevanchist 11 months ago
It almost seems like he's struggling not to tell her what he's *really* been up to, but in the end he realizes that he'd better not let anyone - even Rachel - suspect a thing. Bruce is well-known for going to extreme lengths to keep his identity a secret, even risking his life by refusing to use his skills as Bruce Wayne, so maybe we can interpret this as kind of the beginning of that. ^_^;
heavyarms01h 11 months ago
"The city needs a batman... always"
foodbug 11 months ago
Loved all the Batman movies. Every single one. Each was perfect in its own way. But Batman Begins made it personal. Now I care. I'm invested =)
FoodOrFail 1 year ago 2
The only thing that sucks about Christian Bale being Batman is him disguising his voice.. it kinda sucks. GO BATMAN AND SUPERMAN!!!!!!
SupermanSmallville1 1 year ago
It's not who I am underneath. But what I doooooooo that defines me. lol I laughed so hard when I heard batman say that.
KickAss8500 1 year ago
@KickAss8500 yeah, and why he disguised his voice, if the i am Bruce was implicit, he was saying like, im bruce with that funny voice
nachoseg 1 year ago
@KickAss8500 lol same here it cracks me up but at the same time its fucking epic
nameless12345 11 months ago
@KickAss8500. LMFAO!!! sooo fuckin true lmfao!! ROFL..."But what i DOOOooooo that defines me"...SHIT! so fuckin funny...LOL!!
88Vectorman88 11 months ago
Better than The Dark Knight
rocklee1397 1 year ago
"Sure I do, I like Comic books too"--The Bruce Deeuoukayeey
thebrucedeeuoukayeey 1 year ago
#OMG
ddevil52 1 year ago
wow luv him
MissKona2009 1 year ago
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birgik2 1 year ago
that bastard stole my quote.says woman
lumpyfishful 1 year ago
Perfect quote. To bad we live in a society where most people think that it's there words that define them. Actions speak a hell of a lot louder than words.
theatlantean2 1 year ago 8
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she take it up the butt?
Razersun 1 year ago
you're talking to Batman bitch!
masondarko 1 year ago 162
@masondarko lmao!
xDexBoy 1 year ago
maybe Bale is not the best Batman but i think he's the best Bruce Wayne ;)
Buli0n 1 year ago 218
@Buli0n Well I think he's the best batman, George Clooney was George Clooney dressed up in the batman mask and micheal keaton i guess was alright, but I kinda feel that Bale takes it to a better level.
biagiotti2006 1 year ago
@Buli0n definitely agreed....I think Bale is definitely the best Bruce Wayne, and on par with Keaton's Batman
miggy25 1 year ago
@Buli0n *Shakes your hand vigorously* Yes yes. I agree with you a hundred percent. When I try to explain that Bale is my favorite BW but not my favorite Batman, people always shoot me a look and say, "Aren't they the same thing?" To which I scream "NO!! It's not the same effing thing!!"
And then they shoot me another look and walk/run away :-(
angelisoncrack 1 year ago
@angelisoncrack i think that CB is also the best batman because he is kinda real to me..
no super fighting moves...no flying...nothiing too much
a simple man with a suit and a brave heart.
but he IS the BEST BW :P
kogiama 1 year ago 19
@kogiama YES i totally agree with you even though i havnt seen any other batman movies. The thing that he isnt to mutch is what defines him to be the best batman, It is a very good movie! better then the second one in my opinion.
zhred 1 year ago
@Buli0n better than george clooney
thridkazekage300 1 year ago
@thridkazekage300 lol george clooneys batmans voice was his normal voice
nameless12345 11 months ago
@nameless12345 which made it suck every other batman did something with there voice u know
thridkazekage300 11 months ago
@Buli0n the batman voice is the shit
vince0123 1 year ago
@Buli0n
He's the best playboy. But the tortured Bruce ? Huh...not so well...
Nower 11 months ago
@Buli0n sorry mate, but Micheal Keaton IS both the best Batman and Bruce Wayne. Physically though, Wale has more arguments, but keaton has more depth.
Donkishottomfg 11 months ago
@Donkishottomfg what? keaton? never found him good bruce ;| people saying that tim burton's movies are like watching comic books, i disagree, bruce in comics is a playboy and womanizer, keaton looks more like a sissy, and batman fighting skills in burton's movies are doubtful.
Buli0n 11 months ago
@Buli0n I must disagree with all you've said except indeed Bale looks more like a womanizer than Keaton only if we understand womanizer as someone at the same time superficial, if not, then Keaton is also a womanizer, and then i prefer his style : just take the beginning of Burton's 1992 Batman when Wayne sees for the first time Kim Basinger; at the very first glance he knew he had to go to her and have her ! And Wayne is not pretending he's a womanizer beacause, he is . In a more subtle way.
Donkishottomfg 11 months ago
@Donkishottomfg heh... i have different feeling, i see a virgin who doesn't know how to pick a woman, and he has this creepy rapist glare...
Buli0n 11 months ago
@Buli0n We didn't see the same film.
Donkishottomfg 11 months ago
Tim Burton's Bruce Wayne is very careless, Vicky Vale and Selina Kyle didn't need much time to figure out Batman's identity, he even shows himself to Shreck ;/ as i said also his fighting skills are doubtful - no training, killing(sic!), drinking with Selina etc. Nolan's Batman doesn't do stuff like this, Burton's movies are great Batman experience, climatic and dark,full of details, with this raw feeling,watching Keaton as a Bruce isn't bad, but i can't see his pain and "playboy's mask".
Buli0n 11 months ago
@Buli0n Let's forget the second Burton's Batman, Burton himself said he disapproved of what he did with this film, his having a tight schedule to direct it had some responsability in it. As for the first film, as far as i remember Vicky Vale did not figure out he was Batman since it is Alfred who introduces her into the secret room. Burton's Batman may be killing, but he did not turn himself in deliberately as Bale does in the clip of this page.
Donkishottomfg 10 months ago
@Donkishottomfg yes, alfred showed her batcave... i was so dissapointed, how can you be so careless? im asking again, don't get me wrong, i love this movie( batman 1989) much, but it's different batman experience. and seriously, when i hear "batman" i think about Jim Lee's drawings, and Kevin Conroy's voice ;)
Buli0n 10 months ago
@Buli0n (Sorry i thought of this clip youtube.com/watch?v=PmwLPU5H6_Q&feature=related). (in my second comment i made a mistake, i was thinking of the 1989 Burton's film, not 1992's). Alfred is not careless, it is his will that Bruce get a woman and settle down, so he does not get kill i guess. You can notice that earlier in the film.
Donkishottomfg 10 months ago
@Buli0n Well, what do u think : a billionare dresses as a bat at night sure has issues... lol
laksa72 10 months ago
@Buli0n My thoughts exactly
hotrod1318 9 months ago
@Buli0n He's the best Batman! Ru kidding? If not him then who? MIchael Keaton to me is a distant 2nd. You can't have great Bruce Wayne without Batman and vice versa. They come hand in hand.
Mr1131988 6 months ago 2
@Buli0n Keaton is the best Bruce Wayne. If somebody told you Bale was batman you will say. Oh yeah I suppose. He was acting strange like he is hiding something.
And Keaton.... there were even petitions to take him out of the cast. ppl cant imagine he is Batman. Perfect.
malkatamutra 6 months ago
@Buli0n IS THE BEST BATMAN DUDE!
lomayankee 5 months ago
@Buli0n bale is the best batman and bruce, who doesnt like him. would you rather prefer cloony?
RussianSquad 5 months ago
@Buli0n I agree about he being the best Bruce Wayne, but come on who is the best batman in your opinion, Michael Keaton, George Clooney maybe that guy from Batman Dead End is the best one.
Leon4788 3 months ago
man I love that quote
tomboyjgh 1 year ago
it's not who you underneath, but what you do, that defines you. - by Rachel
at least that word have been made by Rachel Dawes not by Bruce Wayne,!
pelebabi 2 years ago
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The Spiderman love is far more beautiful than this. The upside down kiss is movie history! I'm a boxer and I swooned! I really want to show off to get you but I can't. How frustrating!!!Puting the bin out??? Marvel will always beat DC!
johnanthonyp 2 years ago
Yes. Wishes and dreams are necessary. Actions brings the results for which one will be remembered.
21daze 2 years ago 6