If you think being a toady of the Caesar-Pope Idol Shepherd Benedictus XVI, who succeeded the matricide Nero and Caligula de jure and is a former member of the Hitler Jugend (who headed the Vatican office which supplanted the Inquisition in the XIX Century) has anything even remotely to do with being a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ, then you are a fine specimen of a lost and blind dupe of the Mother of Harlots and Abomination for public display.
@TheHeroOfChrist Say Mr. "hero", why don't you peddle your corruptions elsewhere and in the mean time stand on bridge of your shipwreck and salute your flag of apostasy as it go under.
Your verse:
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
@MeInTheCornfield Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. 1Peter 1:23-25
Dispensationalism??? I was with this guy until that point... So he believes in a pre-trib rapture and stuff by Darby? His Bible version apparently took the blood of Jesus Christ out. That's not cool.
"The final authority is not a missing Bible "originals" that are all lost. The final authority is the KING JAMES BIBLE - the scriptures in English that God gave us in the world-language of the end times. AV-1611 - THE FINAL AUTHORITY.
"The roman pope doesn't have enough authority to train a toy poodle."
A former member of the Hitler Jugend, Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI succeeded Nero Caesar.
The question of justification obsesses popish apologists consumed with their own unforgiven guilt. On the other hand, those men and women who are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone have the fruits of the Holy Spirit, which include joy and peace.
James 2 is an exposition of justification before men--not regeneration by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ without which no man or women can enter into eternal life.
As catholicexodus wrote succinctly, "Freedom of conscience DISALLOWED! (where does the Bible say to prevent people from believing falsehoods?) And how did Peter fail to mention that we must be subject to HIM (and his successors) to be saved? I thought we just had to repent and believe in Christ!"
"And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration (Rev.17:6).
"....that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom you killed between the sanctuary and the altar. Most certainly I tell you, all these things will come upon this generation. JERUSALEM, JERUSALEM who kills the prophets, and stones those sent to her!" (Matthew 23:34-37)
"I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus." (Revelation 17:6)
Rome was a moral and spiritual cesspool in the days of days of Emporer Nero, the predecessor of Pontifex Maximus Innocentus III, Pontifex Maximus Innocentus IV, and Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI.
They all succeeded Pontifex Maximus Julius Caesar. None of them professed salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone.
No one (a shill for the great whore like you) has ever proven a linguistic or historical error in the King James Bible in fully legible English today.
No, the correct answer for you is that you are a lost and blind apostate.
Try learning how to read the Holy Scriptures in context in the event that you are not too reprobate to do so already.
No one (e.g., a hermeneutic screwball like you) in 400 years, for your information, has ever proven any historical or linguistic fact refuting the plenary verbal inerrancy of the King James Bible in fully legible English, which is the lingua franca of our contemporary world.
"I must go on my way today and tomorrow and the next day, for it cannot be that a prophet perishes outside of Jerusalem. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, like a hen gathers her own brood under her wings, and you refused! Behold, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me, until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"
Your last post has no bearing whatsoever on this edifying video, but that hardly comes as a surprise to me.
Your incessant oxymorons are very boring, of course, and as boggymark1 put it so succinctly, "your idiocy is [as] foul and offensive as a broken crock of dung."
By contrast, the King James Bible is the Holy Scirptures, preserved by the LORD and free of errors, omissions, and additions in the lingua franca of today
Rome is the great whore according to Revelation 17 and 18.
@jjpetkusiii Since the revisions of the KJV from 1613-1850 made (in addition to changes in punctuation, capitalization, and spelling) many hundreds of changes in words, word order, possessives, singulars for plurals, articles, pronouns, conjunctions, prepositions, entire phrases, and the addition and deletion of words - would you say the KJV was "verbally inerrant" in 1611, 1629, 1638, 1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, or 1850?
How in the world would the contents of any edition of the verbally inerrant AV1611 make a difference to a lost and blind Biblical illiterate in Hebrew, Greek and English like you?
The unregenerate face eternity first in hell and then in the lake of fire, which is where you are headed without the gift of God, which is Salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE.
When--if ever--did you come under the conviction that you are a lost sinner on your way to hell?
@jjpetkusiii got ya again. If theyre verbally in errant they would all be the same chuckle head, but each was revised and altered 10 times. So I ask again which of the revisions is the inspired and "INERRANT"? They cant all be if they were altered, and they were.
If the lingua franca of the world had not been Koine Greek in the Apostolic Era, pazzo, the New Testament would have been translated into the exemplary English of our common language precisely as it is found in the King James Bible in any case.
The LORD preserves the Holy Scriptures in their entirety.
Once again. you demonstrate the lost and blind delusion of your ilk of ungenerate Pharisees since you don't even know how to read Hebrew or Greek.
@jjpetkusiiisad sad that in the face of all the errors Ive pointed out to you that you still have to resort to vain name calling and denial to support your proven illogic here. Ive stated many times that a: Like you I know the papacy is the whore b: I use the KJV even though there are still errors in it. I know you are passionate and sincere in you beliefs, but sincerely decieved is still decieved. Youve bought into the eronous premise that the KJV is inerrent when it is clearly not. Too bad
As Providential 1611 wrote, "Catholicism…LITERALLY cut off [men’s] heads, limbs, tongues, babies out of pregnant women, etc. Rome hates the King James Bible because it is OF GOD and exposes Rome for the cult it is. The Bible teaches us not to walk with heretics anyway, but to expose, mark, note and shun them. What you view as cultic and sectarian is simply Biblical obedience to be separate from idolaters, greedy people and peddlers of another Gospel."
@jjpetkusiii yes Rome is the whore..you born again protestants are just one of its daughters. You are the living example of the pot calling the kettle black. The sad thing is you dont realize it.
White-heads, like popish toadies, always attack the Reformation Era translations of the Holy Bible because they invariably expose papism and Alexandrian cultism. As Providential1611 wrote, "Rome hates the King James Bible because it is OF GOD and exposes Rome for the cult it is..."
The Alexandrian cultists who oppose the King James Bible always align with the opinions of men rather than the text of the Holy Scriptures itself.
the guest made the assumption the Christians will be gone b4 the Tribulation in Matt 24. That's why he said those left behind will have a different set of rules to be saved. beware of that, cause the pre-trib rapture may very well be false
I'm aware of the meticulous rules that had to be followed by the O.T. scribes, but this is not addressing my questions.
I'm sure that you are aware that we do not have the autographs. Therefore when you speak of transmitting from the root language into receptor tounges the assumption is that you or some other human being knows what the "originals" say.
Please re-read my questions and consider them a little more deeper than what you have.
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if you want a more literal acurate Bible then you would have to buy the literal bible. called Literal translation
this is direct translation in everyday usage has the meaning of the rendering of text from one language to another "word-for-word" (Latin: "verbum pro verbo") rather than conveying the sense of the original.
LBBspock the hebrew text have to be perfect, infact if a scribe wrote the text in hebrew incorrectly they would have to dissregaurd the acient text dispose of it, and start from the beginning, what I was saying is that translations cannot be 100 perfect you may say that Jesus spoke in Aramaic this is true then how can you transilate Aramaic to Greek perfectly, my point is that the Hebrew text are written in hebrew not in greek and is in the organal language.
well he would just have to learn English so that he could get the trasilation as the only "word of God" in english.
The English is trasilated from the inspired scriptures, the Greek was directly written in greek from Jesus very words verble in Hebrew, written in Greek because the Aposltes spoke greek also.
Only the Scriptural text of the King James Bible has stood the test of time. The same cannot be said for the Wycliffe Translation, the Geneva Versions, the Bishops Bible, etc. Every subsequent attempt to supplant the AV with a new English "version" has invariably failed.
For the English-speaking peoples, the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV) is the fully reliable final authority in all matters, just as it has been since 1611.
The short answer is it is part of the ecumenical movement to bring everyone to the Catholic Church. There are essentially 2 kinds of ancient manuscripts:the ones that make up the King James and the ones that make up the others. 95%= of these manuscripts support the KJV. the other %5 or less are made up of essentially Vaticanus and Siniatucus manuscripts. So the answer in short is, if you dont have a KJV, you have a Catholic bible.
@LBBspock God said he would preserve his word, but what is the def. of that? Not the bible surely that was chosen by men. His word is the spirit. In that light, it cannot be harmed in any way. The bible says do not be tied to the letter; do not take it literally. It's a spiritual book, not a book of history.
Translated perfectly into the inerrant King James Bible, that Greek text reads: "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17).
The Son of God said, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (John 5:39).
If one cannot believe the Holy Bible, then logically he will not believe the Lord Jesus Christ.
@jjpetkusiii If you want the truth research Astro-theology to see how you have been deceived in the scriptures. Not interested....fine....keep up your delusional life. Have an open mind and check it out ....
Koran-kisser Katholicism appeals to Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists and others.
If a politician makes the ungodly "pilgrimage" to Lazio so that he can kiss the pope's foot in the Vatican Palace, he should be careful not to ruffle the tailored white house dress that the Pontifex Maximus is wearing or else Ratzinger might smack him with his purse.
Who is your favorite contemporary popish Romanist paedophile? Personally, none of those jesuitical wolves in sheeps clothing appeals to me.
The NIV Committee almost accomplished the impossible. Getting money out of a wicked old whore is not as easy as one might think, especially when she is Rome, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations according to Revelation 17 in any language, who is also "drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus" as history confirms and the inerrant AV1611 instructs.
The wretched "modern versions" are all based on the great whore's corrupt Codex Vaticanus.
@jjpetkusiii Do yourself a favor and research Astro theology so that you can see that even your KJV is bullshit. As above so below. All of the stories in the bible are based on the stars. Don't get angry with me; just check out what I've said. If your mind is not open you won't and you'll continue to go on living without a clue as to what is being perpetrated against us. Check out Jordan Maxwell "Ancient Belief Systems" start at minute 11:25 and you'll hear the whole story ....
Please understand that I am not angry, but I already know that the factual evidence corroborating the Holy Scriptures precludes some sort of astrological or astronomical genesis of the Old and New Testaments.
Thanks for sharing.
No factual "error" in the Scriptural text of the King James Bible has ever been proven, and it simply makes no sense as a sort of code (encoded message).
When (if ever) did you come under the conviction that you are a lost sinner on your way to hell?
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neather do KJV only accept the Tonach, the pentateuch and the Torah as the inspired word of God, and base that on the asurtion that the KJV is more superior to the origanal langauge it was written in.
(cont) If the response to the above questions are in the negative, then what did God mean when He said He would preserve His words and that they would not pass away?
Is there a scripture or an allusion in any Bible foreign or domestic that says there would only be a certain percentage preserved?
(cont) If a translation cant be perfect, then which Hebrew & Greek text extant is perfect?
If all of the extant Greek & Hebrew texts arent perfect, is it possible to develop a perfect Hebrew O.T. & Greek N.T. since the scholars know where the errors are located in the manuscripts?
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The fact is Tanach was writen by Almighty God through the hands of man (Not the KJV), if you believe that the KJ Bible is the "perfect" word of God, then it your duty to show these people from the acient hebrew and Greek texts, in order to validate your position.
Not at all, godsplumbline, since giving an answer for the hope that is in a regenerated child of God does not extend to answering foolish or unlearned questions. The accuracy of the King James Bible is an established matter of historical fact, but skeptics, Papists, atheists, Moslems, and all manner of heretics and cultists have opposed that obvious reality. Westcott and Hort failed in the end because their premises were proven false, and no subsequent text has supplanted the Authorized Version.
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zmode82 you have to remember that most of the nutjobs came from America, were the SDA cult started, unfortuanally in the UK we become a victims to this.
As an American, I am almost tempted to disagree with what you're saying about most of the nutjobs coming from America regarding these cults. But, unfortunately, the evidence forces me to swallow that urge, and agree with you. =)
Funky American, Asian, or European denominationalists who push Papism or other forms of legalism as though it were the latest designer drug are as passe as they are lost. That is to say totally.
Neither Buddhists, nor atheists, nor Moslems, Hindus, tribal animists, Romanists, Eskimos in the main, etc., have ever accepted the King James Bible as the inspired words of God, the Scriptures in their entirety which He Himself has preserved, but the Lord nonetheless exalts His word above His name.
I am not trying to discredit the KJ Bible in any way, I am simply saying that the KJ only view undermines the Bible simple becuase it is a unnessesary divisive issue, an example Favorites among KJV Onlyist:
"You can only get saved out of the King James Bible," has replaced JESUS CHRIST'S shed blood for all who believe.
"You can only live a good Christian life out of the King James Bible" has replaced the HOLY SPIRITS power to work on everyone's lives no matter which Bible you read out of.
Absurd straw men used by partisans are irrelevant to the onus probandi on those who would assert that there are errors in the text of the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV). Such a burden of proof has never been met, but the complete accuracy of the King James Bible is fully attested not only by Bibles in many other languages but even by other translations in English.
Of course, the Scriptures are not God the Holy Spirit, and there is no need to become confused about the obvious.
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In the KJ bible it is misstrasilated Isaiah 14:12-15 it says "O Lucifer, son of the morning!"
The name in hebrew transilated from is (Helel Ben-Shachar) this actually says "morning star, son of dawn"
Revelation 22:16, where Jesus calls himself "the bright morning star".
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
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All the other virsions of the Bible before the 1611 was currupted, this would mean that all the pople who did not have a 1611 version of the KJ bible went straight to hell as some KJV only believers believe.
I never said you cant trust the scriptures as they were written in the greek and hebrew, if you want the scriptures you have to goto the origanal language it was written, or you understanding will be limerted.
The Greek and Hebrew scriptures is the Final authority it was written to all peoples of any langauge.
The KJV Bible is a trasilation, in the KJV 1611 it states that The Authorized King James Version is an -------English translation----- of the Christian Bible
Only by misreading Hebrew or Greek is it possible to assert that there are errors, additions, or omissions in the text of the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV). Usually the people who resort to these tactics are novices, manifest illiterates in Koine Greek and Hebrew. Others rely on promoters of private interpetations to support their erroneous readings. Because the "original languages" are so ancient, godsplumbline, their bogus assertions tend to go unchallanged.
The Jews were the keepers of the Oracles of God and they had very very strict critiera for any writings to become canonical, the KJB contains the Oracles of God and it is the truth, and it will still be in existence in the world to come.
The Authorized KJB is the true WORD of God, and it requires neither additions nor any omissions, all those who add or take away from it fall into strong delusion. Great video thanks for the testimonial. P.S. for me its KJB all the way.
As much I enjoy reading the KJV, the Geneva Bible did more for Christianity than the KJ did. By no means am I knocking the KJ though - it's a great book.
Obnoxious and divisive cultists can attach themselves to anything, but there is nothing heretical or sectarian about believing the Scriptures! Because the Authorized Version (KJV) preserves the Old Testament and the New Testament without errors, omissions, and additions, it is the Holy Bible for the English-speaking peoples, legible today, just as it has been since 1611.
Brother, I would encourage you to use LORD in English--just as I would encourage you to use Jehova in Spanish--rather than YHWH. I understand that you do not intend to be blasphemous, but that particular transliteration just doesn't cut the mustard. (The Masoretic text now has the Hebrew vowel points, for example, and most computers don't.)
Because of its linguistic excellence and complete accuracy, you won't go wrong with the King James Bible in English. Its readings are always correct.
And it shall be, in that day, declares יהוה, that you call Me My Husband, and no longer call Me My Baʽal. And I shall remove the names of the Baʽals from her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
(Hos 2:16-17 The Scriptures 1998+) Isn't the Name of The Most High the one name replaced by LORD one of the things done in the KJB? Isn't that subtracting and adding to The Father's WORDS?
Those who would assert that the Holy Scriptures are not preserved in the King James Bible (KJV) must necessarily cavil to do so. For many historical and and even more linguistic reasons, it is abundantly clear that the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible is the Old Testament and the New Testament in English.
There are no errors, additions or omissions in the KJV. It is the fully reliable final authority in all matters because it is the Holy Scriptures in legible English.
Well, I never said you could go wrong with the KJ - I am a KJ user. However I prefer to use, as do many others, the name YHWH. I also prefer to use El Shaddai, Elohim, Yah, Yeshua etc.
Ha'Adonai Yeshua Ha'Mashiach, the "Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world" foreknew that the Scriptures would be preserved in English as part of the Great Commision. He also foreknew that generations of English-speakers would come to know Him as Saviour and the Lord Jesus Christ after the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV) was faithfully translated without errors, omissions, or additions.
In English, my brother, the King James Bible is the Holy Scriptures.
Chuck Missler did a study on the heptatic finger print of the Holy Spirit that is clearly present in the Greek Textus Receptus.
And Hebrew Scriptures.
Yes Jesus Is Lord of All! He is God and in Him dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and we are complete in Him who is the head of all principality and power.
Your point is historically pointless, godsplunbline, since NO ONE spoke English when the Old and New Testaments came out initially. For the English-speaking peoples, however, the King James Bible is the Holy Scriptures, legible today.
Your Text Comments misconstrue Scriptures starting with Acts 2 onward AND fail to recognize the single most historically significant event of the Reformation, namely providing the peoples of Europe (and then the world) with the Holy Bible in their own languages.
the KJV is nothing more then a trasilation from the Holy Spirtures, the reformation does not back up your KJV only possition, you are being needlessly divisive.
The KJV is transilated from the manuscripts of the holy scriptures.
Your Text Comment is mistaken and fallacious, godsplumbline. Only an historical ignoramus could fail to recognize that the most significant events of the Reformation were the translation of the Scriptures into the vernacular languages of Europe.
A perfect translation of the Old and New Testaments became a reality for the English-speaking peoples in 1611 with the publication of the King James Bible--its flawless authority is a fact of life even without your recognition (or permission) of it.
I dissagree you have not answered any points that I raised, you take a very extreamist view, so before the KJV 1611 people who gave their life to Jesus were simply not saved ????
I simply do not agree with many of your positions and claims.
There are problems with all translations that are true translations of the Bible. There may indeed be some conspiracy behind certain omissions or additions. But anyone who has the facility to read and understand the Greek and Hebrew or access to concordances and dictionaries can still come to accuracy regarding what any verse of Scripture is really saying.
KJV has its deficiencies, especially with regard to the changing English language. Other versions are deficient in other ways. We need to use all of them and all resources available, especially the study of the original languages, if we are to come to greater understanding of the Scriptures.
so I believe that we should disregard your KJV-Only position that is bent of the material sent out and focus on the real danger ... that the Jubilee 2000 celebration is a design to bring together Rome with all other faiths in a celebration of Mary.
Middle English ended more than a century before the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible was translated flawlessly in 1611 when our language was in its Golden Age.
Promoters of private interpretation are fond of exploiting the reality that English has decayed since the AV was first published. Multiple follies and errors are founded on the myth that translation committees of contempo twits are doing people a favor by mistranslating Scriptures into incorrect, misleading, and inferior English.
Salvation is of the Lord, of course, by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone; it is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast.
Just as the preaching of the Gospel is sound Biblical doctrine, godsplumbline, so is the preservation of the Scriptures by God Himself. The faux scholarship that pervades the efforts of those who would "correct" the AV is an incessant failure, destructive to the edification of the saints, but such sophistry often goes undetected these days.
"but such sophistry often goes undetected these days. "
This I would agree, their is alot of deception these days, the only person you can trust is Jesus Christ, and in him alone, the AD 2000 movement has practiced sophistry for many years, now called the Joshua Project 2000, I known lots of people from Diffrent view points, KJV only, non-KJV only, Catholics, methodists etc who are now ecumenical, I personally still think people should becaurful when dealing with the Apocrypha as it
If you cannot trust the Scriptures, it is in fact impossible to trust the Lord Jesus Christ, godsplumline.
The Son of God said, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (John 5:39).
Long ago, Dean Burgon debunked the myth that any text that was not Scripture made its way into the Authorized Version. For the English-speaking peoples, the King James Bible is the fully reliable final authority in all matters (as it was in 1611).
it is important to clarify "English-speaking peoples." this is not the final authority in all languages, as others have tryed to claim, yet they are not qualifyed to state such as they do not have a masters in linguistics..
I am KJ prefared but not KJV only, the KJ bible is not perfect for example, Isaiah (KJV)
14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
is actually a missinterpritation from the Hebrew is actually O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, the hebrew word is Helel Ben-Shachar
Surely lucifer and jesus are not the same person, nor indeed can they ever be.
I Jesus have send mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
The Problems with the modern versions yes they are currupted, if you want a more perfect bible with no errors, misstrasilations etc you should buy one in hebrew and greek, no other superior book then the origanal language, the english language trasilations
No, godsplumbline, the KJV construes Isaiah 14:12 correctly in English. There are no errors, additions, or omissions in the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible.
For the English-speaking peoples, the King James Bible (AV) is the final authority in all matters.
We agree, godsplumbline, that the Lord God has preserved the Holy Scriptures, His own inspired words in their entirety in more than one language.
The translation of the Hebrew and Greek texts of the Old Testament and New Testament in 1611 gave England the Holy Scriptures free of errors, additions or omissions. Since its publication, the King James Bible (AV) has been the fully reliable final authority in all matters for the English-speaking peoples.
yes my point is no trasilation can be 100% perfect, their are deleberate errors and errors that are not deliberate, all qualified linguists agree that no trasilation can be 100% perfect.
In the NT the word Love has 5 words Agapē, Eros, Philia, Storge and Thelema this does not transilate very well becuase the conotations are diffrent.
Just as "eros" is not found in the Koine Greek text of the New Testament, neither is "storge," godsplumbline. By the way, try telling an historian who knows anything about international treaties "that no trasilation can be 100% perfect."
The Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV) faithfully interprets the Hebrew of the Old Testament and the Greek of the New Testament into exemplary English. For the English-speaking people, the King James Bible is the inerrant, infallible Holy Scriptures.
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If this is so, why did the translators make the mistake of translating certain Hebrew idioms directly into English, rather than rendering them correctly?
Internationally renowned for its accuracy, the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV) preserves the Old and the New Testaments in exemplary English, which were in fact translated flawlessly into our common language in its Golden Age
For the English-speaking peoples, the King James Bible is the final authority in all matters because it is the Holy Scriptures, divinely inspired, inerrant, infallible, and preserved in English, which is the lingua franca of our contemporary world.
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catholicism is the true form of christianity...st thomas aquinas professed that christianity (Catholicism) in the 7th century was derived from the Apostles directly from Jesus...Not some Protestant or any born-again WHO WANTS to interpret their beliefs themselves...
Isnt that the core worldview of BORN AGAINS? To interpret Christianity as they see fit? With this individualist mindset (Americanism), Born agains want to be Individuals with so-called minds of their own to interpret Christianity
NYCRap- Perhaps, but there is much evidence that those who have made RC policy and dogma have swayed very far from the teachings of the Bible. Who was it that said - the smoke of the evil one has entered the sanctuary? (BTW- born and raised RC here but seeing MANY discrepancies.)
NYC-R u aware of the blasphemy of the latest popes regarding pagan religions and the allowing of pagan services at the Vatican and elsewhere? Their suggestion of a one world religion and new world order? It is not merely one observation thing that I base my thoughts on. No need to even speak of the millions tortured and killed during the inquisitions and crusades *by holy men*. Many obvious areas are very far from what would Jesus do. To include the silks and gold rather than simple cloths.
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16)
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:..." (John 16:13)
The CC admit changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Many religions use crosses whick I thought the 2nd Commandment forbids but the CC also has saints they pray to which is not what Jesus said. Pray only to the Father not to Jesus or Mary. Finally the Popes claim to be Christ on earth. My father was catholic and as a child I thought it strange then. The CC may have started out under God but it has corrupted the word as I see it today. Who can forgive sin but God Himself! God Bless.
I agree with everything you said except that CC may have started out under GOD, research their history it has always been pagan, the mass, rituals and symbols etc comes from egypt . I am an ex CC and i praise GOD everyday that he called me out of that deception.
Yes you are probably right. They take the comment from Jesus to Peter wrong. Peter means pebble. Jesus was talking about the comment Peter made not Peter himself. Jesus IS the corner stone to build your faith and foundation on! This latest pope as well as the last wants to unite all religions under their control for power and money. Look at the CC and tell me they don't like money! Did you notice pope paul was buried in a santa suit? santa claus = satans claws.
Yes you are right about Peter, Jesus meant on what you jus said, admitted that he was CHRIST i will build my church, we the people, the bible believers are the church. Yes they want to unite all religions preparing the stage for the end times just as it is prophecied. The burial for the pope was very scary, full of occult symbols pure EVIL. Youtube the devil in the vatican
you say,"catholicism is the true form of christianity."
really???
So, the 12 JEWISH disciples that the Lord Jesus Christ commissioned must not have been Christians?
After all, Roman Catholics are Gentiles and NOT Jewish, So if the ROMAN Catholic church is the true form..... you have to say the Jews that believed were NOT Christians... because they were NOT Roman Catholic.
answer: catholicism is a Alexandrian spinoff from Christianity. ie: Origen, Philo, etc.
catholic priests are the modern day high priests of Jesus's day!! We are all saints who are under the blood. They treat priests as if they are gods themselves and are "holy."
And for that matter. All the English translations I've ever seen are using James for the Lord's Brothers name, rather than Jacob. God knew it would be this way. So maybe it is in honor of all the Saints and martyrs that gave their lives to preserve the Scriptures that King James represents.
Why would they need to learn the English language in order to understand the Bible, when the Russian Orthodoxy has a clean translation in their language?
No, they need to read the bible that God preserved in their own language. English speaking people read the bible that God preserved in their language, the KJV.
Well David W. Daniels, a KJVOnlyist author,would disagree with your statement. According to him, the Word of God is only preserved in the English language no &where else.He states,"Choose your Bible carefully in any language. But in English, be thankful we have God's preserved words in English, the King James Bible. "So he is suggesting we be cautious about the other foreign translations, but, no, not the English, were safe there.
Of course, he says all this after completely trashing the oldest Spanish version of the Bible the Hispanics have. As a Hispanic myself, I find his arguement very offensive, and one would conclude, very racist.
zmode82, Do you read and trust the Reina Valera Gomez 2004? I heard a man give a passionate testimony about this particular translation, which he said is based on the TR, diligently compared to the King James Bible and corrects errors from the original Reina Valera that he also said got much worse in 1960.
In fact, I do own a copy of the RVG2004. The RVG2004 is combination of the RV60, RV1909, and the RV1602. KJVOnlyists argue that although the RVG version corrects far worse "errors" in the RV60, they still hold that version to the standards of the KJV. Face it, what you guys are doing with the KJV, is no different than what the papacy did concerning the Latin Vulgate in their time.
Thanks for replying. I am just trying to get a second opinion on the RVG for Spanish speaking people who might ask me what they should read. I am not an "KJV Only" proponent simply because of your point about the language barrier for non-English speaking people, but the King James Bible sure is the only one for me.
Fact: God saves (election, justification, regeneration) his people from all nations, and then the perfect law of the Lord converts their souls. For English speaking people, the KJB!
If David W Daniels isn't your God, don't listen to him! If the God of the bible is your God, follow him. The word of God preserved and uncorrupted to the English speaking peoples is contained in the reformation English bible, called by people today the KJV. I don't speak Spanish but I have heard the old Reina Valera is the uncorrupted word in Spanish.
You've only heard the Reina Valera is the uncorrupted, but if you were to compare it to the KJV verse by verse, you would agree with him too, if you are a consistent KJVOnlyist. There is no evidence that the KJV is the only inspired translation. I guess God isnt clever enuff to speak to us thru His word in the common tongue bc He is only limited to archaic English, am I right?
To think, I almost got sucked into this deception. KJVonlyism leads to bad fruit, like the burning Bibles incident as mentioned in this video. Although they disagree with it, that philosophy is what led to that. I'd never thought I'd see the day where Christians would be the ones burning Bibles, but thats the fruit of KJVOnlyism right there.
I know it makes you mad that the God of the bible preserves his word and doesn't lie, so your just going to have to deal with that; you can't change it. I understand it makes you mad people burn books that say blasphemous things about the Lord, Jesus Christ. This shows where your heart is. You don't believe the bible. Just admit it; you'll feel much better. So reach for your false book you call a bible made by the catholic church and stop sending me your frivolous messages, or repent.
No, on the contrary, I am very happy God has preserved His word and doesn't lie, but He didnt preserve it in the way Benjamin G. Wilkinson thinks He did. It makes me mad to see people just burn books period; its very NAZI-like in my opinion. I do believe the Bible is my authority. I do not beleive a certain translation is my authority. Now, you told me to reach my "false" book I call the Bible made by the catholic church?
Um, are you aware one of the translators of the KJV was catholic?
I know it makes you mad that you say the KJV is the preserved word of God, when the evidence says otherwise. I understand it makes you mad that the majority of KJVOnlyists ungodly behavior takes away all credibility from you position. That truly show where their heart is. You dont believe the Bible. Just admit it, you feel much better about a translation. So reach your 17th century archaic anglican version you call the Bible and continue in your legalistic heresy.
It is very difficult to utilize Strong's Concordance with other translations...sorry, but I will stick with the KJV.
FORMETOKNOWONLY 8 months ago
@jjpetkusiii
I recommend reading the King James Bible *only* if you're interested in:
• Jacobean English, Elizabethan prose, Shakespearean phraseologies
• Archaic expressions, outdated terminologies, antiquated constructions
• Numerous mistranslations and blatant translational inconsistencies
• Monarchical authorization and a markedly Anglican predisposition
• Bigoted, elitist, militant, heterodox, sectarian KJV-only readership
TheHeroOfChrist 9 months ago
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@THOC
If you think being a toady of the Caesar-Pope Idol Shepherd Benedictus XVI, who succeeded the matricide Nero and Caligula de jure and is a former member of the Hitler Jugend (who headed the Vatican office which supplanted the Inquisition in the XIX Century) has anything even remotely to do with being a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ, then you are a fine specimen of a lost and blind dupe of the Mother of Harlots and Abomination for public display.
Thanks for sharing!
jjpetkusiii 9 months ago
@TheHeroOfChrist Say Mr. "hero", why don't you peddle your corruptions elsewhere and in the mean time stand on bridge of your shipwreck and salute your flag of apostasy as it go under.
Your verse:
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. 1John 2:19
BereanBeacon1 9 months ago
KJVOism:
My question has always been: Is this a doctrine of men or of God? What does God's Word say about which Bible translation to use?
MeInTheCornfield 11 months ago
@MeInTheCornfield Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. 1Peter 1:23-25
BereanBeacon1 11 months ago
@MeInTheCornfield Muslims and cults really appreciate position on the Bible as they say we don't have the words of God and can prove it.
BereanBeacon1 11 months ago
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CreateRealWorldPeace 1 year ago
Dispensationalism??? I was with this guy until that point... So he believes in a pre-trib rapture and stuff by Darby? His Bible version apparently took the blood of Jesus Christ out. That's not cool.
5to22a 1 year ago
Pure King James onliest cultism on display....
TheHeroOfChrist 1 year ago
@TheHeroOfChrist
As random331 wrote, "Define 'Bible.'
"That is the where you got fooled.
"The final authority is not a missing Bible "originals" that are all lost. The final authority is the KING JAMES BIBLE - the scriptures in English that God gave us in the world-language of the end times. AV-1611 - THE FINAL AUTHORITY.
"The roman pope doesn't have enough authority to train a toy poodle."
A former member of the Hitler Jugend, Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI succeeded Nero Caesar.
jjpetkusiii 10 months ago
@jjpetkusiii
When, if ever, did you read the Holy Scriptures in plenary Modern English?
TheHeroOfChrist 9 months ago
@THOfC
Have your parents read this to you.
The question of justification obsesses popish apologists consumed with their own unforgiven guilt. On the other hand, those men and women who are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone have the fruits of the Holy Spirit, which include joy and peace.
James 2 is an exposition of justification before men--not regeneration by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ without which no man or women can enter into eternal life.
jjpetkusiii 9 months ago
@jjpetkusiii
His name is Jacob, not James, and he thinks Saul is a 'vain man'.
"Will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?" (Jacob 2:20)
Both Jacob and his brother Joshua (Jesus) preached works salvation.
"A man is justified by works, and NOT by faith alone." (Jacob 2:24)
"Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not what I say?" (Luke 6:46)
"Become doers of the word, and not hearers only" (Jacob 1:22)
"Only he who does my Father's will shall enter the Kingdom." (Matthew 7:21)
TheHeroOfChrist 9 months ago
@THOC
As catholicexodus wrote succinctly, "Freedom of conscience DISALLOWED! (where does the Bible say to prevent people from believing falsehoods?) And how did Peter fail to mention that we must be subject to HIM (and his successors) to be saved? I thought we just had to repent and believe in Christ!"
"And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration (Rev.17:6).
Rome is the great whore.
jjpetkusiii 9 months ago
@jjpetkusiii
"....that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom you killed between the sanctuary and the altar. Most certainly I tell you, all these things will come upon this generation. JERUSALEM, JERUSALEM who kills the prophets, and stones those sent to her!" (Matthew 23:34-37)
"I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus." (Revelation 17:6)
TheHeroOfChrist 9 months ago
@THOC
Rome was a moral and spiritual cesspool in the days of days of Emporer Nero, the predecessor of Pontifex Maximus Innocentus III, Pontifex Maximus Innocentus IV, and Pontifex Maximus Benedictus XVI.
They all succeeded Pontifex Maximus Julius Caesar. None of them professed salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone.
No one (a shill for the great whore like you) has ever proven a linguistic or historical error in the King James Bible in fully legible English today.
jjpetkusiii 9 months ago
@jjpetkusiii said: "Rome was a moral and spiritual cesspool...."
Yes, Rome was amoral, as was Roman dominated Jerusalem.
Your words are in conflict with the words of Jesus Christ. Repent!
TheHeroOfChrist 9 months ago
@THOC
No, the correct answer for you is that you are a lost and blind apostate.
Try learning how to read the Holy Scriptures in context in the event that you are not too reprobate to do so already.
No one (e.g., a hermeneutic screwball like you) in 400 years, for your information, has ever proven any historical or linguistic fact refuting the plenary verbal inerrancy of the King James Bible in fully legible English, which is the lingua franca of our contemporary world.
jjpetkusiii 9 months ago
@jjpetkusiii
"I must go on my way today and tomorrow and the next day, for it cannot be that a prophet perishes outside of Jerusalem. Jerusalem, Jerusalem, that kills the prophets, and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, like a hen gathers her own brood under her wings, and you refused! Behold, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me, until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!'"
(Luke 13:33-35)
TheHeroOfChrist 9 months ago
@THOC
Your last post has no bearing whatsoever on this edifying video, but that hardly comes as a surprise to me.
Your incessant oxymorons are very boring, of course, and as boggymark1 put it so succinctly, "your idiocy is [as] foul and offensive as a broken crock of dung."
By contrast, the King James Bible is the Holy Scirptures, preserved by the LORD and free of errors, omissions, and additions in the lingua franca of today
Rome is the great whore according to Revelation 17 and 18.
jjpetkusiii 9 months ago
@jjpetkusiii Since the revisions of the KJV from 1613-1850 made (in addition to changes in punctuation, capitalization, and spelling) many hundreds of changes in words, word order, possessives, singulars for plurals, articles, pronouns, conjunctions, prepositions, entire phrases, and the addition and deletion of words - would you say the KJV was "verbally inerrant" in 1611, 1629, 1638, 1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, or 1850?
alexmcginness 7 months ago
@alexmcginness
How in the world would the contents of any edition of the verbally inerrant AV1611 make a difference to a lost and blind Biblical illiterate in Hebrew, Greek and English like you?
The unregenerate face eternity first in hell and then in the lake of fire, which is where you are headed without the gift of God, which is Salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE.
When--if ever--did you come under the conviction that you are a lost sinner on your way to hell?
jjpetkusiii 7 months ago
@jjpetkusiii got ya again. If theyre verbally in errant they would all be the same chuckle head, but each was revised and altered 10 times. So I ask again which of the revisions is the inspired and "INERRANT"? They cant all be if they were altered, and they were.
alexmcginness 7 months ago
@alexmcginness
If the lingua franca of the world had not been Koine Greek in the Apostolic Era, pazzo, the New Testament would have been translated into the exemplary English of our common language precisely as it is found in the King James Bible in any case.
The LORD preserves the Holy Scriptures in their entirety.
Once again. you demonstrate the lost and blind delusion of your ilk of ungenerate Pharisees since you don't even know how to read Hebrew or Greek.
jjpetkusiii 6 months ago
@jjpetkusiiisad sad that in the face of all the errors Ive pointed out to you that you still have to resort to vain name calling and denial to support your proven illogic here. Ive stated many times that a: Like you I know the papacy is the whore b: I use the KJV even though there are still errors in it. I know you are passionate and sincere in you beliefs, but sincerely decieved is still decieved. Youve bought into the eronous premise that the KJV is inerrent when it is clearly not. Too bad
alexmcginness 7 months ago
@alexmcginness Lean to read English.
As Providential 1611 wrote, "Catholicism…LITERALLY cut off [men’s] heads, limbs, tongues, babies out of pregnant women, etc. Rome hates the King James Bible because it is OF GOD and exposes Rome for the cult it is. The Bible teaches us not to walk with heretics anyway, but to expose, mark, note and shun them. What you view as cultic and sectarian is simply Biblical obedience to be separate from idolaters, greedy people and peddlers of another Gospel."
jjpetkusiii 6 months ago
@jjpetkusiii yes Rome is the whore..you born again protestants are just one of its daughters. You are the living example of the pot calling the kettle black. The sad thing is you dont realize it.
alexmcginness 7 months ago
@alexmcginness No.
White-heads, like popish toadies, always attack the Reformation Era translations of the Holy Bible because they invariably expose papism and Alexandrian cultism. As Providential1611 wrote, "Rome hates the King James Bible because it is OF GOD and exposes Rome for the cult it is..."
The Alexandrian cultists who oppose the King James Bible always align with the opinions of men rather than the text of the Holy Scriptures itself.
You are clearly dead in trespasses and sins.
jjpetkusiii 7 months ago
Conference Seventh Day Adventist THE CLEAR WORD is THE CLEARED BLURRED !
Any pastor who doesn't know KING JAMES is THE BIBLE is not worth his salt !
Now cry and go worship your TRINITY GOD of SUNDAY CULT !
FKTHPOPE 1 year ago
the guest made the assumption the Christians will be gone b4 the Tribulation in Matt 24. That's why he said those left behind will have a different set of rules to be saved. beware of that, cause the pre-trib rapture may very well be false
filoIII 2 years ago
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goto amazon and look up Literal Translation of the Bible
godsplumbline 2 years ago
@godsplumbline
I'm aware of the meticulous rules that had to be followed by the O.T. scribes, but this is not addressing my questions.
I'm sure that you are aware that we do not have the autographs. Therefore when you speak of transmitting from the root language into receptor tounges the assumption is that you or some other human being knows what the "originals" say.
Please re-read my questions and consider them a little more deeper than what you have.
LBBspock 2 years ago 6
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if you want a more literal acurate Bible then you would have to buy the literal bible. called Literal translation
this is direct translation in everyday usage has the meaning of the rendering of text from one language to another "word-for-word" (Latin: "verbum pro verbo") rather than conveying the sense of the original.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
LBBspock the hebrew text have to be perfect, infact if a scribe wrote the text in hebrew incorrectly they would have to dissregaurd the acient text dispose of it, and start from the beginning, what I was saying is that translations cannot be 100 perfect you may say that Jesus spoke in Aramaic this is true then how can you transilate Aramaic to Greek perfectly, my point is that the Hebrew text are written in hebrew not in greek and is in the organal language.
Your argument about the Russian.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
well he would just have to learn English so that he could get the trasilation as the only "word of God" in english.
The English is trasilated from the inspired scriptures, the Greek was directly written in greek from Jesus very words verble in Hebrew, written in Greek because the Aposltes spoke greek also.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
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unless you have a B.A in languages in the acient texts, then your case is weak.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
@godsplumbline
godspumbline
Please answer these questions that I have posed to other's that do not belive that we have aperfect Bible today.
If a translation cant be perfect, then what is the purpose of the 200 plus English Bibles since 1884. (cont)
LBBspock 2 years ago 9
Amen, LBBspock!
Only the Scriptural text of the King James Bible has stood the test of time. The same cannot be said for the Wycliffe Translation, the Geneva Versions, the Bishops Bible, etc. Every subsequent attempt to supplant the AV with a new English "version" has invariably failed.
For the English-speaking peoples, the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV) is the fully reliable final authority in all matters, just as it has been since 1611.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago 4
The short answer is it is part of the ecumenical movement to bring everyone to the Catholic Church. There are essentially 2 kinds of ancient manuscripts:the ones that make up the King James and the ones that make up the others. 95%= of these manuscripts support the KJV. the other %5 or less are made up of essentially Vaticanus and Siniatucus manuscripts. So the answer in short is, if you dont have a KJV, you have a Catholic bible.
tonyb408 2 years ago 4
Amen tonyb408!!
LBBspock 2 years ago 2
@LBBspock God said he would preserve his word, but what is the def. of that? Not the bible surely that was chosen by men. His word is the spirit. In that light, it cannot be harmed in any way. The bible says do not be tied to the letter; do not take it literally. It's a spiritual book, not a book of history.
rovingdesertfox 7 months ago
@rovingdesertfox
αρα η πιστις εξ ακοης η δε ακοη δια ρηματος θεου
Translated perfectly into the inerrant King James Bible, that Greek text reads: "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" (Romans 10:17).
The Son of God said, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (John 5:39).
If one cannot believe the Holy Bible, then logically he will not believe the Lord Jesus Christ.
jjpetkusiii 5 months ago
@jjpetkusiii If you want the truth research Astro-theology to see how you have been deceived in the scriptures. Not interested....fine....keep up your delusional life. Have an open mind and check it out ....
rovingdesertfox 5 months ago
@rovingdserfox
Koran-kisser Katholicism appeals to Moslems, Hindus, Buddhists and others.
If a politician makes the ungodly "pilgrimage" to Lazio so that he can kiss the pope's foot in the Vatican Palace, he should be careful not to ruffle the tailored white house dress that the Pontifex Maximus is wearing or else Ratzinger might smack him with his purse.
Who is your favorite contemporary popish Romanist paedophile? Personally, none of those jesuitical wolves in sheeps clothing appeals to me.
jjpetkusiii 5 months ago
@rovingdesertfox
The NIV Committee almost accomplished the impossible. Getting money out of a wicked old whore is not as easy as one might think, especially when she is Rome, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations according to Revelation 17 in any language, who is also "drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus" as history confirms and the inerrant AV1611 instructs.
The wretched "modern versions" are all based on the great whore's corrupt Codex Vaticanus.
jjpetkusiii 5 months ago
@jjpetkusiii Do yourself a favor and research Astro theology so that you can see that even your KJV is bullshit. As above so below. All of the stories in the bible are based on the stars. Don't get angry with me; just check out what I've said. If your mind is not open you won't and you'll continue to go on living without a clue as to what is being perpetrated against us. Check out Jordan Maxwell "Ancient Belief Systems" start at minute 11:25 and you'll hear the whole story ....
rovingdesertfox 5 months ago
@rovingdesertfox
Please understand that I am not angry, but I already know that the factual evidence corroborating the Holy Scriptures precludes some sort of astrological or astronomical genesis of the Old and New Testaments.
Thanks for sharing.
No factual "error" in the Scriptural text of the King James Bible has ever been proven, and it simply makes no sense as a sort of code (encoded message).
When (if ever) did you come under the conviction that you are a lost sinner on your way to hell?
jjpetkusiii 5 months ago
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neather do KJV only accept the Tonach, the pentateuch and the Torah as the inspired word of God, and base that on the asurtion that the KJV is more superior to the origanal langauge it was written in.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
(cont) If the response to the above questions are in the negative, then what did God mean when He said He would preserve His words and that they would not pass away?
Is there a scripture or an allusion in any Bible foreign or domestic that says there would only be a certain percentage preserved?
If so what is the percentage?
LBBspock 2 years ago 8
@LBBspock: The Word tells you the truth, always go to the Word.
Jeremiah 8:8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of YHWH is with us? Lo, certainly the lying pen of the scribes hath made it falsehood.
2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto YHWH, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
MinisterQuietBuck 1 year ago
(cont) If a translation cant be perfect, then which Hebrew & Greek text extant is perfect?
If all of the extant Greek & Hebrew texts arent perfect, is it possible to develop a perfect Hebrew O.T. & Greek N.T. since the scholars know where the errors are located in the manuscripts?
LBBspock 2 years ago 7
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The fact is Tanach was writen by Almighty God through the hands of man (Not the KJV), if you believe that the KJ Bible is the "perfect" word of God, then it your duty to show these people from the acient hebrew and Greek texts, in order to validate your position.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Not at all, godsplumbline, since giving an answer for the hope that is in a regenerated child of God does not extend to answering foolish or unlearned questions. The accuracy of the King James Bible is an established matter of historical fact, but skeptics, Papists, atheists, Moslems, and all manner of heretics and cultists have opposed that obvious reality. Westcott and Hort failed in the end because their premises were proven false, and no subsequent text has supplanted the Authorized Version.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
godsplumbline 2 years ago
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The Bible didn't say that only the King James Bible would give you the fruits of the Holy Spirit. GALATIANS 5:22-23
godsplumbline 2 years ago
The Bible didn't say that only the King James Bible would give you the fruits of the Holy Spirit. GALATIANS 5:22-23
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Galatians 5:22-23
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law."
The Bible didn't say that a certain Bible TRANSLATION saves you.
JOHN 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
godsplumbline 2 years ago
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zmode82 you have to remember that most of the nutjobs came from America, were the SDA cult started, unfortuanally in the UK we become a victims to this.
Many cults did start in the USA.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
As an American, I am almost tempted to disagree with what you're saying about most of the nutjobs coming from America regarding these cults. But, unfortunately, the evidence forces me to swallow that urge, and agree with you. =)
zmode82 2 years ago
Funky American, Asian, or European denominationalists who push Papism or other forms of legalism as though it were the latest designer drug are as passe as they are lost. That is to say totally.
Neither Buddhists, nor atheists, nor Moslems, Hindus, tribal animists, Romanists, Eskimos in the main, etc., have ever accepted the King James Bible as the inspired words of God, the Scriptures in their entirety which He Himself has preserved, but the Lord nonetheless exalts His word above His name.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
I will be covering on the topic on my website.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Helel Ben-Shachar was not a missinterpritation on my account it means son of the dawn.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
You don't read Hebrew competently if you think that the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible misinterprets the Tanakh (Old Testament in Hebrew).
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
I am not trying to discredit the KJ Bible in any way, I am simply saying that the KJ only view undermines the Bible simple becuase it is a unnessesary divisive issue, an example Favorites among KJV Onlyist:
"You can only get saved out of the King James Bible," has replaced JESUS CHRIST'S shed blood for all who believe.
"You can only live a good Christian life out of the King James Bible" has replaced the HOLY SPIRITS power to work on everyone's lives no matter which Bible you read out of.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Absurd straw men used by partisans are irrelevant to the onus probandi on those who would assert that there are errors in the text of the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV). Such a burden of proof has never been met, but the complete accuracy of the King James Bible is fully attested not only by Bibles in many other languages but even by other translations in English.
Of course, the Scriptures are not God the Holy Spirit, and there is no need to become confused about the obvious.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
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In the KJ bible it is misstrasilated Isaiah 14:12-15 it says "O Lucifer, son of the morning!"
The name in hebrew transilated from is (Helel Ben-Shachar) this actually says "morning star, son of dawn"
Revelation 22:16, where Jesus calls himself "the bright morning star".
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
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so this mans that Wiclif Tyndale and Cranmer were heretical books.
Like I said the Origanal Manuscripts are the holy scriptures, the KJV is a mire trasilation from the Holy Scriptures.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
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All the other virsions of the Bible before the 1611 was currupted, this would mean that all the pople who did not have a 1611 version of the KJ bible went straight to hell as some KJV only believers believe.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
I never said you cant trust the scriptures as they were written in the greek and hebrew, if you want the scriptures you have to goto the origanal language it was written, or you understanding will be limerted.
The Greek and Hebrew scriptures is the Final authority it was written to all peoples of any langauge.
The KJV Bible is a trasilation, in the KJV 1611 it states that The Authorized King James Version is an -------English translation----- of the Christian Bible
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Only by misreading Hebrew or Greek is it possible to assert that there are errors, additions, or omissions in the text of the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV). Usually the people who resort to these tactics are novices, manifest illiterates in Koine Greek and Hebrew. Others rely on promoters of private interpetations to support their erroneous readings. Because the "original languages" are so ancient, godsplumbline, their bogus assertions tend to go unchallanged.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
The Jews were the keepers of the Oracles of God and they had very very strict critiera for any writings to become canonical, the KJB contains the Oracles of God and it is the truth, and it will still be in existence in the world to come.
teethofthelamb 2 years ago 3
The Authorized KJB is the true WORD of God, and it requires neither additions nor any omissions, all those who add or take away from it fall into strong delusion. Great video thanks for the testimonial. P.S. for me its KJB all the way.
teethofthelamb 2 years ago 3
Great interview brothers.
God bless.
AlYassou3Rabbi 2 years ago 2
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I would have thought so that the Seventh-day Adventist started the who thing off, even the JWs came out of the SDA movement.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
As much I enjoy reading the KJV, the Geneva Bible did more for Christianity than the KJ did. By no means am I knocking the KJ though - it's a great book.
theheat151 2 years ago
I agree I know the KJ Bible is a great book no doubts about that.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Phenomenal interview, James!! Favoriting this to a couple of other channels I have!
Thanks for posting, Dave!
RainhadoCanto4 2 years ago 4
The KJV only possition is cultic.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
It seems like it.
theheat151 2 years ago
Obnoxious and divisive cultists can attach themselves to anything, but there is nothing heretical or sectarian about believing the Scriptures! Because the Authorized Version (KJV) preserves the Old Testament and the New Testament without errors, omissions, and additions, it is the Holy Bible for the English-speaking peoples, legible today, just as it has been since 1611.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
@jjpetkusiii
Would you get upset if I used YHWH instead of LORD like most KJVers have?
theheat151 2 years ago
Brother, I would encourage you to use LORD in English--just as I would encourage you to use Jehova in Spanish--rather than YHWH. I understand that you do not intend to be blasphemous, but that particular transliteration just doesn't cut the mustard. (The Masoretic text now has the Hebrew vowel points, for example, and most computers don't.)
Because of its linguistic excellence and complete accuracy, you won't go wrong with the King James Bible in English. Its readings are always correct.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
And it shall be, in that day, declares יהוה, that you call Me My Husband, and no longer call Me My Baʽal. And I shall remove the names of the Baʽals from her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.
(Hos 2:16-17 The Scriptures 1998+) Isn't the Name of The Most High the one name replaced by LORD one of the things done in the KJB? Isn't that subtracting and adding to The Father's WORDS?
withwingsaseagleeyes 2 years ago
Those who would assert that the Holy Scriptures are not preserved in the King James Bible (KJV) must necessarily cavil to do so. For many historical and and even more linguistic reasons, it is abundantly clear that the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible is the Old Testament and the New Testament in English.
There are no errors, additions or omissions in the KJV. It is the fully reliable final authority in all matters because it is the Holy Scriptures in legible English.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
@jjpetkusiii
Well, I never said you could go wrong with the KJ - I am a KJ user. However I prefer to use, as do many others, the name YHWH. I also prefer to use El Shaddai, Elohim, Yah, Yeshua etc.
Shalom & Ahavah
theheat151 2 years ago
Ha'Adonai Yeshua Ha'Mashiach, the "Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world" foreknew that the Scriptures would be preserved in English as part of the Great Commision. He also foreknew that generations of English-speakers would come to know Him as Saviour and the Lord Jesus Christ after the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV) was faithfully translated without errors, omissions, or additions.
In English, my brother, the King James Bible is the Holy Scriptures.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
the bible in Greek and hebrew is the inerrant, infallible Holy Scriptures.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
godsplumbline:
If the Bible in Greek ( a dead language) and Hebrew is the inerrant, infallible Holy scriptures....
...then God must have lied in Psalm 12:6-7 when he PROMISED he would PRESERVE His word FOREVER.
So.... I guess we need to throw away our English Bibles and learn Greek and Hebrew then.
I choose to believe God in Psalm 12:6-7.
n2motocross 2 years ago 3
Chuck Missler did a study on the heptatic finger print of the Holy Spirit that is clearly present in the Greek Textus Receptus.
And Hebrew Scriptures.
Yes Jesus Is Lord of All! He is God and in Him dwells the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and we are complete in Him who is the head of all principality and power.
chews4life 2 years ago
This is my point, and this was not written in english the Bible was written for the world.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Your point is historically pointless, godsplunbline, since NO ONE spoke English when the Old and New Testaments came out initially. For the English-speaking peoples, however, the King James Bible is the Holy Scriptures, legible today.
Your Text Comments misconstrue Scriptures starting with Acts 2 onward AND fail to recognize the single most historically significant event of the Reformation, namely providing the peoples of Europe (and then the world) with the Holy Bible in their own languages.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
the KJV is nothing more then a trasilation from the Holy Spirtures, the reformation does not back up your KJV only possition, you are being needlessly divisive.
The KJV is transilated from the manuscripts of the holy scriptures.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Your Text Comment is mistaken and fallacious, godsplumbline. Only an historical ignoramus could fail to recognize that the most significant events of the Reformation were the translation of the Scriptures into the vernacular languages of Europe.
A perfect translation of the Old and New Testaments became a reality for the English-speaking peoples in 1611 with the publication of the King James Bible--its flawless authority is a fact of life even without your recognition (or permission) of it.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago 3
I dissagree you have not answered any points that I raised, you take a very extreamist view, so before the KJV 1611 people who gave their life to Jesus were simply not saved ????
I simply do not agree with many of your positions and claims.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
There are problems with all translations that are true translations of the Bible. There may indeed be some conspiracy behind certain omissions or additions. But anyone who has the facility to read and understand the Greek and Hebrew or access to concordances and dictionaries can still come to accuracy regarding what any verse of Scripture is really saying.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
KJV has its deficiencies, especially with regard to the changing English language. Other versions are deficient in other ways. We need to use all of them and all resources available, especially the study of the original languages, if we are to come to greater understanding of the Scriptures.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
so I believe that we should disregard your KJV-Only position that is bent of the material sent out and focus on the real danger ... that the Jubilee 2000 celebration is a design to bring together Rome with all other faiths in a celebration of Mary.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Middle English ended more than a century before the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible was translated flawlessly in 1611 when our language was in its Golden Age.
Promoters of private interpretation are fond of exploiting the reality that English has decayed since the AV was first published. Multiple follies and errors are founded on the myth that translation committees of contempo twits are doing people a favor by mistranslating Scriptures into incorrect, misleading, and inferior English.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
Salvation is of the Lord, of course, by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone; it is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast.
Just as the preaching of the Gospel is sound Biblical doctrine, godsplumbline, so is the preservation of the Scriptures by God Himself. The faux scholarship that pervades the efforts of those who would "correct" the AV is an incessant failure, destructive to the edification of the saints, but such sophistry often goes undetected these days.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
"but such sophistry often goes undetected these days. "
This I would agree, their is alot of deception these days, the only person you can trust is Jesus Christ, and in him alone, the AD 2000 movement has practiced sophistry for many years, now called the Joshua Project 2000, I known lots of people from Diffrent view points, KJV only, non-KJV only, Catholics, methodists etc who are now ecumenical, I personally still think people should becaurful when dealing with the Apocrypha as it
godsplumbline 2 years ago
contains gnostic teachings
godsplumbline 2 years ago
If you cannot trust the Scriptures, it is in fact impossible to trust the Lord Jesus Christ, godsplumline.
The Son of God said, "Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (John 5:39).
Long ago, Dean Burgon debunked the myth that any text that was not Scripture made its way into the Authorized Version. For the English-speaking peoples, the King James Bible is the fully reliable final authority in all matters (as it was in 1611).
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
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whatever, you stupid individualist born-again...
Roman Catholicism is the TRUE Christianity...
Holy Mary Mother of God, Pray for us sinners now and on our hour of our death, Amen...
NewYorkConsciousRapX 2 years ago
Ye must be born again-Jn.3:7
You are praying to the wrong person-1Tim 2:5- Christ is our only mediator
edwardpf123 2 years ago 5
it is important to clarify "English-speaking peoples." this is not the final authority in all languages, as others have tryed to claim, yet they are not qualifyed to state such as they do not have a masters in linguistics..
godsplumbline 2 years ago
God is the ultimate master of linguistics.
(Acts 2:6)
edwardpf123 2 years ago 6
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BOrn Agains = Brain washed
NewYorkConsciousRapX 2 years ago
not BOrn Agains = HELL
cwazycleric 2 years ago 6
washed by the Word of God
Ephesians 5:26 I think it is.
Wash my Body, Soul and Spirit Jesus. :)
chews4life 2 years ago 3
Arguing over non essentuals, if your saying that a persons salvation is based on the KJV english language then you have errerd.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
I am KJ prefared but not KJV only, the KJ bible is not perfect for example, Isaiah (KJV)
14:12: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
is actually a missinterpritation from the Hebrew is actually O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, the hebrew word is Helel Ben-Shachar
(Jesus-Son of the Morning; Rev 22:16)
godsplumbline 2 years ago
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godsplumbline 2 years ago
Surely lucifer and jesus are not the same person, nor indeed can they ever be.
I Jesus have send mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
The Problems with the modern versions yes they are currupted, if you want a more perfect bible with no errors, misstrasilations etc you should buy one in hebrew and greek, no other superior book then the origanal language, the english language trasilations
godsplumbline 2 years ago
are trasilations.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
No, godsplumbline, the KJV construes Isaiah 14:12 correctly in English. There are no errors, additions, or omissions in the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible.
For the English-speaking peoples, the King James Bible (AV) is the final authority in all matters.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
Not over the greek and hebrew they are not it is a trasilation
godsplumbline 2 years ago
We agree, godsplumbline, that the Lord God has preserved the Holy Scriptures, His own inspired words in their entirety in more than one language.
The translation of the Hebrew and Greek texts of the Old Testament and New Testament in 1611 gave England the Holy Scriptures free of errors, additions or omissions. Since its publication, the King James Bible (AV) has been the fully reliable final authority in all matters for the English-speaking peoples.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago 2
yes my point is no trasilation can be 100% perfect, their are deleberate errors and errors that are not deliberate, all qualified linguists agree that no trasilation can be 100% perfect.
In the NT the word Love has 5 words Agapē, Eros, Philia, Storge and Thelema this does not transilate very well becuase the conotations are diffrent.
godsplumbline 2 years ago
The word 'eros' isn't in the NT.
edwardpf123 2 years ago 5
Just as "eros" is not found in the Koine Greek text of the New Testament, neither is "storge," godsplumbline. By the way, try telling an historian who knows anything about international treaties "that no trasilation can be 100% perfect."
The Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV) faithfully interprets the Hebrew of the Old Testament and the Greek of the New Testament into exemplary English. For the English-speaking people, the King James Bible is the inerrant, infallible Holy Scriptures.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago 2
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If this is so, why did the translators make the mistake of translating certain Hebrew idioms directly into English, rather than rendering them correctly?
godsplumbline 2 years ago
Internationally renowned for its accuracy, the Authorized Version of the Holy Bible (KJV) preserves the Old and the New Testaments in exemplary English, which were in fact translated flawlessly into our common language in its Golden Age
For the English-speaking peoples, the King James Bible is the final authority in all matters because it is the Holy Scriptures, divinely inspired, inerrant, infallible, and preserved in English, which is the lingua franca of our contemporary world.
jjpetkusiii 2 years ago
Great interview. Appreciate the upload!
I have seen a great deal of Tim's videos and he is extremely knowledgeable on the scriptures and presents many truths.
Good stuff.
n2motocross 2 years ago 3
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catholicism is the true form of christianity...st thomas aquinas professed that christianity (Catholicism) in the 7th century was derived from the Apostles directly from Jesus...Not some Protestant or any born-again WHO WANTS to interpret their beliefs themselves...
Isnt that the core worldview of BORN AGAINS? To interpret Christianity as they see fit? With this individualist mindset (Americanism), Born agains want to be Individuals with so-called minds of their own to interpret Christianity
NewYorkConsciousRapX 2 years ago
NYCRap- Perhaps, but there is much evidence that those who have made RC policy and dogma have swayed very far from the teachings of the Bible. Who was it that said - the smoke of the evil one has entered the sanctuary? (BTW- born and raised RC here but seeing MANY discrepancies.)
hiyosilver100 2 years ago
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Dont discount impactful dogmas (such as Pope John Paul's fight against communism) over infamous incidents and render the whole Religion evil....
Its human Nature to amplify and put so much weight on outweighing small amouts of evil versus large amounts of positives....
NewYorkConsciousRapX 2 years ago
NYC-R u aware of the blasphemy of the latest popes regarding pagan religions and the allowing of pagan services at the Vatican and elsewhere? Their suggestion of a one world religion and new world order? It is not merely one observation thing that I base my thoughts on. No need to even speak of the millions tortured and killed during the inquisitions and crusades *by holy men*. Many obvious areas are very far from what would Jesus do. To include the silks and gold rather than simple cloths.
hiyosilver100 2 years ago 2
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16)
"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth:..." (John 16:13)
EnderGate 2 years ago
The CC admit changing the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Many religions use crosses whick I thought the 2nd Commandment forbids but the CC also has saints they pray to which is not what Jesus said. Pray only to the Father not to Jesus or Mary. Finally the Popes claim to be Christ on earth. My father was catholic and as a child I thought it strange then. The CC may have started out under God but it has corrupted the word as I see it today. Who can forgive sin but God Himself! God Bless.
jondulars 2 years ago
I agree with everything you said except that CC may have started out under GOD, research their history it has always been pagan, the mass, rituals and symbols etc comes from egypt . I am an ex CC and i praise GOD everyday that he called me out of that deception.
tabitha2644 2 years ago 2
Yes you are probably right. They take the comment from Jesus to Peter wrong. Peter means pebble. Jesus was talking about the comment Peter made not Peter himself. Jesus IS the corner stone to build your faith and foundation on! This latest pope as well as the last wants to unite all religions under their control for power and money. Look at the CC and tell me they don't like money! Did you notice pope paul was buried in a santa suit? santa claus = satans claws.
jondulars 2 years ago
Yes you are right about Peter, Jesus meant on what you jus said, admitted that he was CHRIST i will build my church, we the people, the bible believers are the church. Yes they want to unite all religions preparing the stage for the end times just as it is prophecied. The burial for the pope was very scary, full of occult symbols pure EVIL. Youtube the devil in the vatican
tabitha2644 2 years ago
NewYorkConsicousRapX:
you say,"catholicism is the true form of christianity."
really???
So, the 12 JEWISH disciples that the Lord Jesus Christ commissioned must not have been Christians?
After all, Roman Catholics are Gentiles and NOT Jewish, So if the ROMAN Catholic church is the true form..... you have to say the Jews that believed were NOT Christians... because they were NOT Roman Catholic.
answer: catholicism is a Alexandrian spinoff from Christianity. ie: Origen, Philo, etc.
n2motocross 2 years ago 7
catholic priests are the modern day high priests of Jesus's day!! We are all saints who are under the blood. They treat priests as if they are gods themselves and are "holy."
jdigitalseven 2 years ago
Well if Aquinas said it, it must be true!
edwardpf123 2 years ago
I wish the KJV would call the book of James the correct name of Jesus' brother,, Jacob.
Why is the book of James called Santiago in Spanish bible?
Other than that. I am reading through the KJV now.
Jesus IS LORD of ALL.
chews4life 2 years ago
The Lord's brother isn't called 'Jacob' in the KJB,he is called James.
Ga 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
edwardpf123 2 years ago 4
Correct my brother. (A Strongs dictionary for James in the Greek is:
G2385
Ἰάκωβος
Iakōbos
ee-ak'-o-bos
The same as G2384 Graecized; Jacobus, the name of three Israelites: - James.
I think they changed it to James in honor of King James. And Scripture clearly teaches to honor God. Galatians 1:10
I think Jesus would prefer us keep in names Jacobus.
chews4life 2 years ago
And for that matter. All the English translations I've ever seen are using James for the Lord's Brothers name, rather than Jacob. God knew it would be this way. So maybe it is in honor of all the Saints and martyrs that gave their lives to preserve the Scriptures that King James represents.
God Bless you all!
chews4life 2 years ago
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Hilarious, the KJV has errors in the very first chapter of the bible.
Take it from someone who has a clue.
watch?v=Sb6WkebVdMQ
4096x 2 years ago
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4096x 2 years ago
If a Russian peasant, who cannot speak English gets saved, does that person need to learn English in order to understand the Bible?
christianthinker 2 years ago
Why would they need to learn the English language in order to understand the Bible, when the Russian Orthodoxy has a clean translation in their language?
HeroOfChrist 2 years ago 2
No, they need to read the bible that God preserved in their own language. English speaking people read the bible that God preserved in their language, the KJV.
classicguitar82 2 years ago
Well David W. Daniels, a KJVOnlyist author,would disagree with your statement. According to him, the Word of God is only preserved in the English language no &where else.He states,"Choose your Bible carefully in any language. But in English, be thankful we have God's preserved words in English, the King James Bible. "So he is suggesting we be cautious about the other foreign translations, but, no, not the English, were safe there.
zmode82 2 years ago 2
Of course, he says all this after completely trashing the oldest Spanish version of the Bible the Hispanics have. As a Hispanic myself, I find his arguement very offensive, and one would conclude, very racist.
zmode82 2 years ago 3
zmode82, Do you read and trust the Reina Valera Gomez 2004? I heard a man give a passionate testimony about this particular translation, which he said is based on the TR, diligently compared to the King James Bible and corrects errors from the original Reina Valera that he also said got much worse in 1960.
apathyHurtsMore 2 years ago
In fact, I do own a copy of the RVG2004. The RVG2004 is combination of the RV60, RV1909, and the RV1602. KJVOnlyists argue that although the RVG version corrects far worse "errors" in the RV60, they still hold that version to the standards of the KJV. Face it, what you guys are doing with the KJV, is no different than what the papacy did concerning the Latin Vulgate in their time.
zmode82 2 years ago
Thanks for replying. I am just trying to get a second opinion on the RVG for Spanish speaking people who might ask me what they should read. I am not an "KJV Only" proponent simply because of your point about the language barrier for non-English speaking people, but the King James Bible sure is the only one for me.
Fact: God saves (election, justification, regeneration) his people from all nations, and then the perfect law of the Lord converts their souls. For English speaking people, the KJB!
apathyHurtsMore 2 years ago
Sorry for my assertion, I apologize.
zmode82 2 years ago
If David W Daniels isn't your God, don't listen to him! If the God of the bible is your God, follow him. The word of God preserved and uncorrupted to the English speaking peoples is contained in the reformation English bible, called by people today the KJV. I don't speak Spanish but I have heard the old Reina Valera is the uncorrupted word in Spanish.
John 8:12
John 10:4-5
John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
classicguitar82 2 years ago 2
You've only heard the Reina Valera is the uncorrupted, but if you were to compare it to the KJV verse by verse, you would agree with him too, if you are a consistent KJVOnlyist. There is no evidence that the KJV is the only inspired translation. I guess God isnt clever enuff to speak to us thru His word in the common tongue bc He is only limited to archaic English, am I right?
zmode82 2 years ago
To think, I almost got sucked into this deception. KJVonlyism leads to bad fruit, like the burning Bibles incident as mentioned in this video. Although they disagree with it, that philosophy is what led to that. I'd never thought I'd see the day where Christians would be the ones burning Bibles, but thats the fruit of KJVOnlyism right there.
zmode82 2 years ago
They burnt counterfeit bibles.
edwardpf123 2 years ago 3
LOL! Yeh exactly
zmode82 2 years ago
As if that makes it any better, and your only proof that those Bibles are counterfeit, is proof texts?
zmode82 2 years ago
I know it makes you mad that the God of the bible preserves his word and doesn't lie, so your just going to have to deal with that; you can't change it. I understand it makes you mad people burn books that say blasphemous things about the Lord, Jesus Christ. This shows where your heart is. You don't believe the bible. Just admit it; you'll feel much better. So reach for your false book you call a bible made by the catholic church and stop sending me your frivolous messages, or repent.
classicguitar82 2 years ago
No, on the contrary, I am very happy God has preserved His word and doesn't lie, but He didnt preserve it in the way Benjamin G. Wilkinson thinks He did. It makes me mad to see people just burn books period; its very NAZI-like in my opinion. I do believe the Bible is my authority. I do not beleive a certain translation is my authority. Now, you told me to reach my "false" book I call the Bible made by the catholic church?
Um, are you aware one of the translators of the KJV was catholic?
zmode82 2 years ago
I know it makes you mad that you say the KJV is the preserved word of God, when the evidence says otherwise. I understand it makes you mad that the majority of KJVOnlyists ungodly behavior takes away all credibility from you position. That truly show where their heart is. You dont believe the Bible. Just admit it, you feel much better about a translation. So reach your 17th century archaic anglican version you call the Bible and continue in your legalistic heresy.
zmode82 2 years ago