Some people don't want children but want to have sex.
Like me. I am not carrying an unwanted child in my stomach.
My womb, my body. My choice. If you don't like abortions, don't get one.
Don't condemn others to suit your beliefs. Having the government tell me what to
do with my body seems intrusive. If my birth control failed me one day, I'm buying Plan B. If my Plan B fails I'm getting an abortion. Make clinics private not funded by tax money, makes more sense.
@angelicabarbie21 Totally, people act like I was put on earth to have millions of children. If I don't want to have children, I shouldn't have to have children!!! No one can tell me any different.
@brittanyverjes1 Then have your tubes tied or a hysterectomy. It is indeed your choice not to get pregnant. Currently it is also your choice to get an abortion. About the only thing I agree with what you've said here is to have the abortion clinics privately funded.
@ThatAnnoyingGuyFrom religious nuts?!? How is protecting the innocent belong just to the religious? strange that religious nuts have morals better than yours...
@mick0438 We talked our daughter out of a scheduled abortion and adopted the baby boy. He's a 27 year old, married med student and VERY glad to be alive, NO THANKS to planned parenthood!
That's unlawful coercion. It wasn't the daughters direct decision, but rather was a choice that was made by a threat of sticking her parents with a bill. You can't threaten someone into medical care.
I feel the greatest destroyer of peace today is "Abortion", because it is a war against the child... A direct killing of the innocent child, "Murder" by the mother herself... And if we can accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion? As always, we must persuade her with love... And we remeind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts... - Mother Teresa
It may seem like that on the surface, but the girl chose that option, apparently she was much more comfortable talking to the nurse at the school clinic than her parents. Planned Parenthood did not come to the school--the girl went to them. And she was told that her parents would be responsible for paying for the abortion she chose to get if they were informed. No laws were broken, no arms twisted.
@llhughes41 you are a fool if you think no woman regrets giving her baby up for adoption over aborting a pregnancy. You're out of your mind if you think EVERY unwanted child born gets adopted. And just so you know, you complete ignoramus, BABIES CAN'T WORK. Babies are physically and mentally incapable of doing anything other than eating, sleeping, crying, pooping, peeing, and learning the most basic of language and motor skills. You really work in the medical field? That's a scary thought.
@llhughes41 LOL WOW. Talk about assuming and making an ass out of yourself. If you really DID know me, you'd know that to me, marriage means a great deal, and if you'd actually read all my comments on this you would have seen that I encourage ALL younger women in my life to WAIT. But I can't sew their vaginas shut. And I will not condemn them if they don't wait. You are way too self-righteous for your own good.
To all you Anti abortionists. Don't cast your pearls before the swine thats on this message board. Your wasting your breath and beating a dead horse isn't gonna change the fact that this country is under judgement by god. Tho some of these free willed thinkers on here think they all should be allowed to act like those in Sodom and Gommorah. Let them be and they will all face the wrath of God.
@ foxfroggy, your statement of "it's not your place to decide for anyone else" also applies to its not your abortionist like minded right to decide for the unborn either as to if they live or die. Wanna clue as to who's it is?? It's GOD's choice.
All you pro abortionists sounds like a bunch of degenerate backwards libtards! @ FOXFROGGY: FYI moron, (LOL) you must get your schooling from planned abortion hood. They don't offer mammograms moron! That implies they DO mammograms , which they don't! Wanna know how I know? Because I have seen it first hand! I work in the medical field, so don't speak on behalf of something your uneducated about!!
What makes me so angry about this stupid "privacy" issue is they can teach your kids liberal morals standards and values, you as a parent have no control over that, no control over KNOWING what's happening within your child's life, (medically or emotionally per laws) yet they get out of line steal drugs alcohol vandalism who's fault is it? Ultimately, the parent is the one who pays for it. Stop teaching our kids it's ok to do what they want as long as they don't hurt anyone & playt it "safe".
California is one of those jacked up states. I remember going to vote when I was around 19 and one of the propositions said something about giving abortions to minors without parental consent. Of course I voted against it since I'm pro-life... but even an Anti-lifer should vote NO! I mean that's your child getting an abortion! Why wouldn't you want to know?! My jaw dropped that night when the proposition passed. I mean only ADULTS VOTE! It's not like we were out voted by the minors! MY BRAIN!
she didn't tell her folks she was out & about fuckin so why tell about the abortion....and any one who thinks abortion is murder should watch maury povich and visit a prison......i'm sure ya know where this train of thought is headed........HMMMMMMMM
@brokenromeo73 You have now had many hours to answer a simple yes or no question, yet every time you're asked it you disappear, and come back later with some lame attempt at an insult involving Hitler. What a miserable scum-sucking coward, you are way more like Hitler than anyone else in this thread.
@brokenromeo73 Is THAT supposed to be your answer to the question I put to you? AGAIN, do you consider a young woman who has had sex once or with one young man to be a whore? IT's a YES OR NO QUESTION.
@brokenromeo73 I'm still waiting for an answer to my whore question. It should be simple for you to answer... unless you really ARE just another mindless spoon-fed right-wing Fox News junkie. I understand that actual thinking for one's self is nigh impossible for folks like that.
@foxfroggy, strange. Brokenromeo73 can spew all kinds of hateful rhetoric against people he knows absolutely nothing about, but has yet to answer a simple question from me. Meanwhile you are as eloquent as you can be, and getting attacked from all sides for being an actual thinking human being. Running circles around the spoon-fed, you are.
@thelovelyarmadillos if you agreed to have the dog, then i would let you take care of it, i do not agree to having something grwo inside of me, and i can do what i wish with my body, if you dont like pro choice and abortions dont have one but dont tell me i cant
@angelicabarbie21 That is such empty logic! The "If you don't like abortions don't have one" argument is just like the "If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex" argument that liberals criticize. How about we say "If you don't want to be pregnant, than use reliable birth control? Educate yourself? How hard is it - I mean, you're already on the internet - why don't you google 'pregnancy prevention' while you're at it, please?
@DerangedHousewife i dont expect any pro life ppl like you fox lovers to understand actual reasonable logic. if you knew anything about birth control, it can fail, and if it fails for me, i will be getting an abortion, and you cannot stop me from getting one, why? maybe because it isnt your body, its mine
@thelovelyarmadillos Well, no - because animal rights are important and they deserve to be respected and treated well. Killing helpless animals is wrong and we MUST fight for them! *sarcasm*
@thelovelyarmadillos That doesn't make sense."It's MY house your dog was living in so I can do what I want." Well her fetus is NOT in YOUR body. The fetus is in hers body not yours. If the fetus was in your body , you could rid it or whatever. If that women does not want a kid growing in her stomach, she doesn't have to. I am for people expressing their beliefs and living by them but when you try to push your beliefs on someone against their own will. That becomes enough.
@brittanyverjes1 "If that woman does not want a kid growing in her stomach, she doesn't have to" Well she wouldnt have gotten pregnant if she had used any of the hundreds of thousands of contraceptive pills out there or spermacide or if she had her partner wear a condom and made sure that it was new and that it did not have any rips or tares in it.When you have unprotected sex or if you dont make sure that preventive measures are adequate then it's likely you will get pregnant.
@TheBunnygirl20 The word fetus in its original latin useage means young or offspring.So your saying that she has the right to get rid of her offspring if she doesnt want it? So why just stop at developing babies in the womb? Why not extened the reach to children under 5?Arent they still in development?Are they not merely potential adults and not actual human beings with the right to life as reserved for all men under the constitution?
@TheBunnygirl20 So by that logic,if a woman doesn't want to raise her kids she can just have them euthanized.Why bother with adoption?Its quicker and cheaper to just kill them right?Besides your the one whos suffering because youre too young to raise a baby,right?Or it's simply not the right time for a child.How dare that fetus form in your womb after you didnt take the necessary precautions to stop a perfectly natural event called fertilization.
@TheBunnygirl20 Shame on that developing baby you call a fetus as an ironic attempt to dehumanize it.Because its the babies fault, right?And the 15yr old girl who had no business having sex in the first place, is just a victim in a male shovenistic system,right?
"I am for people expressing their beliefs and living by them but when you try to push your beliefs on someone against their own will. That becomes enough."Hey,I agree with you! :) So that means ppl shouldnt impose their
@TheBunnygirl20 beliefs onto ppl,right? So why do we convienently exclude developing babies from this?Why is it ok to for a woman to say "i believe that i should be able to kill my baby while its in the womb because its in MY body and messing up MY life"?Doesnt the baby have a life?Oh,I forgot, it's just a fetus!My mistake. So since its just a fetus that is a totaly seperate being from the mother's own body,she still has the right to kill it cuz its in her body?
@TheBunnygirl20 Hey I'm not mad at ya I just think you have some seriously flawed logic, brittanyverjes1.Women have access to the pill,condoms,speracide and much more.If you dont want a baby use these contraceptives correctly.If you do get pregnant give the child up for adoption.Simple. And dont give me this excuse "but i dont want to carry a baby for 9months". Well your mom did it and many women did it b4 there were hospitals.
@TheBunnygirl20 There are many women out there who cant have a baby naturally and everytime a baby is aborted,it's just like a slap in the face for these women.So please do some research on abortion and find out what it really is.You can start by looking up the real meaning of the word 'fetus'. I wish you a good day.
@TheBunnygirl20 its not natural, i dont want some damn thing growing inside of me, i could argue till the day i die over this, i dont want kids, and not one of you pro life advocates will EVER change my mind,i didnt ask to be here, or to be a girl, they are doing everyone a favor, try living a life you dont want to live because you were a mistake, not so easy when you dont have the perfect life now is it
@angelicabarbie21 If you really dont want kinds then just get your tubes tied.Simple.None of asked to be here, dear,but the fact is, we are here.None of those babies asked to be aborted either but, they were.If pregnancy wasnt natural then women wouldnt be able to give birth.Furthermore,you just dont make any sense.Good day.
@TheBunnygirl20 what makes no sense is why i have to be some baby maker, IM NOT. im a girl, a woman, someone who deserves a choice of what to do woth her own body, and i will never give that right up, and no one will tie my tubes at 18, believe me, ive asked, so guess what? i will get one should i get pregnant
Look, I think abortion should be available to the first 24 months, regardless of if you call it murder or not. I think it should be available to rape cases. Do you think women enjoy having abortions, do you think women laugh about it? No, you are wrong, totally wrong. That is one of the most scariest days in there lives, what strikes me funny is that you have baby syndrome, you care about the fetus but soon as it is born.
"Well she wouldn't have gotten pregnant if she had used any of the hundreds of thousands of contraceptive pills"... Fail, you would know, sometimes it just doesn't work. Pills/contraceptives/plan B isn't invincible.There are 520,000 children are in fostercare in the US.If I want a child, I will adopt one of them.
@brittanyverjes1 "You people"?What do you mean by "you people"?Plz explain that. Honey, contraceptives are there to help prevent unwanted pregnancies. They aren't invincible and i never said they were.If used correctly they have a 99.9% chance of being effective.Rape is a bad thing that happens to some women but its no reason to destroy anther life that is inocent just because it was created under undesirable circumstances.
@TheBunnygirl20 You people, the kind of person who sees one comment on youtube and comments 6 times. Sweetheart, of course there are contraceptives, but they don't work ALL the time. So you think a teen girl should be forced to look at herself in the mirror and go through the traumatic experience of throwing up, seeing her belly stretch , having flashbacks of the rape, that is calling for trauma. "Oh well screw you, you didn't want it but you got it anyway, incubator". Tsk.
@brittanyverjes1 Lol there is nothing that suggests she was raped.Rape and incest reasons are just 1% of all abortions in the U.S. And besides, having an abortion wont ease the pain of a rape or incest victim.
It doesn't mean you should close down the the clinic or bomb them because of such a low percentage, does it? They still should have the option. I'm not talking about this girl by the way. It won't ease the pain, of course it won't but you think a young kid who got raped watching her body morph into someone she doesn't recognize wouldn't be traumatic and be even more damaging. How on earth will you deny that?
@brittanyverjes1 Because first of all its illegal in almost all 50 states including the one mentiond, for a girl that young to be sexually active.Second, she knew how babies were made so she has no excuse and i'm sure she knew what changes would happen to her body if she became pregnant.Third the reasons youre giving for ending a life are just superficial.And fourth, you keep bringing up rape here but rape is not the issue here.
@TheBunnygirl20 With proper counseling and support many rape victums have carried a baby to term and either had it adopted or they raised it themselves.So rape is just no excuse what so ever.
@brittanyverjes1 Lol ok now youre putting words in my mouth.I never said rape doesnt happen and if i did then plz quote me word for word.And crack is illegal too and ppl do it all the time but they know the consequences of doing drugs just like that girl knew the full well what she was doing and tried to hide it from her parents.
@TheBunnygirl20 No I am not putting words in your mouth. I am saying rape is "true" meaning rape is still there, just because the percentage is small, doesn't mean we should say it doesn't count. That's how you make it seem.
"And fourth, you keep bringing up rape here but rape is not the issue here".
But rape does happen. It may be 1% but, it still is there.
"So rape is just no excuse what so ever".
Wow what a very rigid stance on such a sensitive issues.
@brittanyverjes1 I never said it didnt count. "That's just how you make it seem." No, thats just how you interpreted it.The rape will still be there even after the abortion so how is abortion the solution to a problem it can't solve?
I actually think that unless you have gone through a woman who has been raped and impregnated, you can't speak so lightly and rigid of the situation.I'm focusing on abused women, they are who I feel for. Even I'm attempting to be sympathetic I know, it is much more horrid than I can imagine. Second crack, is illegal because the "War on Drugs" is a money game.
@brittanyverjes1 Speaking lightly and ridged?You dont know me or how i was concieved so i'll tell you. I was born out of wedlock.I was an unintended pregnancy and if my mother had chose to abort me I would not be here today to speak out about this.So i am not speaking lightly because a few decades ago i was a fetus who could've been abort like the 4000 or so that get terminated regularly here in the US by women who are in the same position as my mother was.
@brittanyverjes1 I've seen your pamphlets, hell I even watched the videos! I still think saying "If you aren't anti, you are a murderer" is very hypocritical and blunt. I also think "Pro abortions just because you can" is a very bad thing. I do not have a rigid stance, it fluctuates because I'm not an extremist. Young woman, I know very well how the reproductive system works and I know about abortions. If you think this is an argument, grow up. This was a debate. Good day.
@brittanyverjes1 Ok. so then you know that an abortion is an induced miscarriage and you'd also know that if a woman has just 1 miscarriage it greatly reduces her cahnces of having a second sucessful pregnancy.So 1 abortion= 1 miscarriage and multi aborts means that the woman may not even be able to carry a baby to term even if she really wants to keep it.And by 'research' i mean looking at actual statistics and learning about the real procedures done.
@TheBunnygirl20 I mean finding real unbiased knowledge about the subject that is free from a pro-life or pro-choice motive so that you can learn the truth for yourself.
Oh yes one more thing and I am sorry for your family members who had to deal with sexual abuse. I'm sorry they had to go through such a thing. Yes and I no the procedure, I've seen the photos, I've heard the storys. But one size does not fit all. That is all I can to say to that.
Superficial, who can dictate what is superficial , that is not superficial, the mental damage it will have it not shallow. It is deeper than that. Even I can't relate to what a woman would go through. So, you don't care about the mothers wellbeing/health? I thought you were for all life and healthiness. The wellbeing of everyone. Why not care about the both of them?
@brittanyverjes1 Now youre just grasping at straws here.She,the 15yr old was not reported to have been raped,Ok? Rape is more than just a few stretch marks here and there,and strech marks dont make it ok to kill the unborn anyway.How are streatch marks affecting her health? When a person gets raped they need counseling not abortion.Abortion only makes things worse.What all do you know about abortion and the effects it has on a woman's reproductive system?
@TheBunnygirl20 I could argue with you on youtube forever but,unless you do the research for yourself from an unbiased source(be it pro-choice or pro-life),then it wont do either of us any good.I implore you to educate yourself on abortion,what it really is and how it impacts women's reproductive organs.
@TheBunnygirl20 No, rape is mental. It is the feeling of fear, shattered personalties, break downs, flashbacks not just stretchmarks. It is pain, it is denial. It is hatred. I've heard my mother talk about it. I couldn't wrap my head around it. Yes it is being violated. It is being hurt, your trust ripped away. I can only say what she has said. For you to insinuate that I think it is only stretch marks, is just sad. Yes, I do know, I know the process.
@brittanyverjes1 Well I'm srry for what happened to your mother.And yet you twist my words.I didnt insinuate anything.I merely stated that strech marks and body changes are superficial reasons for abortion.I've known plenty of ppl in my family who have been sexually abused or assaulted.What kind of help did your mother recieve to help ease the pain of her rape?Did she seek any mental help at all? You should thank your grandmother for your existence and not blame her for what
@TheBunnygirl20 happened to your mother.Because of the stern beliefs of your grandmother you are here in the world.And my own brother was sodomized so yes i do know a bit about the trauma of rape
I never said the abortion was the final solution. I just think it should be an option for horrible cases. My mother put her in an abusive institution at the age of 14 for help. She is back at a new institution ever since 1989.No, the two haven't spoke ever since she was 14. But thank you for all the kind words. I just think people shouldn't be so fixed on one side.
My mother was raped in the 70s when she was 14, my Christian grandmother forced her to keep the child, my mother now suffers from severe split personalities, that she used to cope with her pregnancy. Her mind was fragmented from keeping an unwanted child.She acts like scared 14 year old girl and a 48 year old woman. She is not a well person. I've seen the result of what can happen from a woman growing a child she never asked for and didn't want. Very sad.
@TheBunnygirl20 "I merely stated that stretch marks and body changes are superficial reasons for abortion". Well, I can state that for the sake mental health (I mean on the verge of insanity) or a sickness are reasons not to be so rigid.
"I've known plenty of ppl in my family who have been sexually abused or assaulted"
Doesn't matter they are all different, some will cope, others will go crazy. Each case is different. There is no one size fits all when it comes to that.
@TheBunnygirl20 "Do you think women enjoy having abortions,..." No, i dont think any sane woman would enjoy destroying a developing life.However,47% of all abortions are repeat abortions according to reserch done by the Guttmacher Institute.That means that 47% of women who've had an abortion have another one.It seems like abortion just makes it easier for these women to terminate their responsbilities.SMH
47% that get abortions are repeat, what about the other 53% who get an abortions only once. Why not point out that a little over half of the women that don't. You should study how statistics are made and manipulating, you can always use them in favor for anything. I personally think abortion should be an option until the early second semester or until there is a large problem with the pregnancy.
@nammypammy: PP saves lives by providing needed health care. There contraception services prevent a great many abortions. They provide prenatal care to women in need and cancer screening. No government funds are used for abortions. I have no respect for people like you who are so full of hate, lies, and judgment.
@foxfroggy Planned Murderhood has killed more people than Hitler and are fast approaching the body count of Stalin. Abortion is murder plain and simple. A female who would kill a child is the lowest form of trash in existence. There is no difference between a woman having an abortion and someone paying a hit man to murder someone. And I can careless about how little respect you have for me. To support murder you are no better than than trash. A real woman would protect children.
@brokenromeo73 There is no such thing as Planned Murderhood and abortion is not murder legally, ethically or biblically. The opinions of an ignoramus like you have less value than something I'd scrape off of my shoe. Since you can't get pregnant, what women do with their own bodies is none of your business. Your beliefs are just that and are binding on no one but you. I am a pacifist and most certainly do not support murder and I do not suffer liars like you quietly.
@foxfroggy again you shine in stupidity. Didnt you learn anything today from these posts little uneducated one? I will only tell you once more, libtard retard, planned parenthood does not provide cancer screenings much less do referrals for one.
@brokenromeo73: More lies from you, typical of those who want to control others. There is no credible evidence that abortion increases cancer or mental illness risk. As for the Bible, the "I knew you before you were conceived" refers to a person who actually exists. The products of conception are only potentially a human being. Abortion is never treated as murder in the Bible. Now butt out of the personal health care decisions of others.
@foxfroggy Murder is murder. your little mind can't comprehend that. Dont quote the bible unless you are educated enough to do so! FYI: people in the bible never got abortions because no one had access to that type of technology. I'm guessing you were hoping GOD would of made your illiterate ass a personal list by definition of murder. Are you that uneducated that you can't define the meaning of the word??
And where do you get your "greatly increased development of cancer and mental issues" data from? The greatest mental issues I can think of off the top of my head tend to stem from people like you who stand on your sandy hill of self-righteousness and play judge, jury and executioner without even looking at the case.
@brokenromeo73 I ask again, and I'd like a direct answer--do you consider a girl/young woman who has sex one time or with one boy/young man to be a whore? The classic definition of a whore is one who commits sex acts for money. (By the way, a male can be a whore too.)
@brokenromeo73, Wow. If a girl has sex one time, or with one boy, does that make her a whore? You do have a very valid point about 15 being too young to have sex. (And not like I need to gain your approval for anything, I always tell the young women in my life to wait.) But your screen name hints and your trite delivery shows that you have immense ignorance about sexuality, and women in general.
@alabamawhirleybird My screen name was and is a joke. I think advocating a woman go through a procedure that greatly enhances her chances at developing cancer and mental health issues to be very anti-woman. Some of the children are alsp female yet you have no concern for them.
@alabamawhirleybird I agree that I cannot understand the blood thirsty, selfish and angry women who are so far removed from womanhood that they cannot see anything wrong with murdering children. I only associate with women. You know those that understand life and do not shirk their responsibilities. I just do not have patients for blood thirsty females.
@brokenromeo73 No"children " are involved in an abortion save for those who have been impregnated far too young. You are clueless about the manifold reasons women have to terminate a pregnancy and as for hate, you exude it from every pore. And FWIW, you can't even spell "patience."
To the idiot who asked "who the hell are you to decide when life begins" I just want to say that I am a woman with lupus who risked her life twice to have wanted children and whose grown daughters are of child bearing age. Who the hell are you to make decisions for them or anyone else? If you are one to wave the Bible around, it does not consider you a person until you draw breath. A pregnant woman is most definitely alive while an embryo or fetus is only a potential human being.Real life 1st.
@foxfroggy Remarkable inept understanding of the bible. One cannot not know another unless they are alive. God states to two people in scripture that He knew them since conception. That is at the moment the egg and sperm unite. Do not argue the bible unless you really know it, you seem quite foolish when you do. There is no biblical backing for your assertion that the bible does not consider you a person until you draw breath.
@brokenromeo73 Oh ignorant one, the moment at which a sperm and egg unite you only have a potential pregnancy let alone a potential person. A large number of zygotes do not successfully implant and there is no actual pregnancy. Nature/God is the most prolific abortionist of all. As for the Bible, you are as ignorant of that as you are of reproductive biology. Question: At what point did Adam become a "living soul"?
@SpecializedChild462 Why do you find it necessary to lie and spread such ignorance? There is no fetus at 6 weeks, at that stage it is an embryo and it most certainly does not have an nervous system developed enough to perceive pain. If you don want to have an abortion, that's your business. What another woman decides is hers and hers alone. There is no child until birth and no woman is obligated to provide an infant for those who want to adopt.
@foxfroggy what ignorance you have. A embryo has a nervous system! thats what controls its movements that are whats called involuntary voluntary. THEY move their limbs at this stage. Go to medical school and then get back to me IDIOT!!
@brokenromeo73: Dear ignorant woman hater, 97% of what Planned Parenthood does has nothing to do with abortion. Their family planning services prevent millions of unwanted pregnancies and hence prevent abortions. Whatever idiocy you believe about pregnancy, it's not your place to decide for anyone else.
@foxfroggy And Hitler thought he was doing his nation a service by getting rid of wanted people also. Except Hitler was no where near as efficient as planned murderhood.
@foxfroggy Advocating against the murder of innocent children makes me a woman hater? Wow, do words have meaning where you come from? Or pointing out that pregnancy is 100 percent preventable. If there is no sex there is no conception. Wow, that sounds like common sense. When will society begin using that gift again?
@brokenromeo73 More amazing ignorance. No children are murdered in abortion and no form of birth control is "100%" reliable. That includes abstinence since a woman could still be raped. It's incredibly presumptuous of you to insist on celibacy or be forced to gestate based on what you want and "think" to use that term quite loosely. Children should come into the world because they are wanted, not as a punishment for being sexually active.
Mitt Romney funded Planned Parenthood, funded abortions - even for minors, and supported the ability of minors' to obtain abortions without parental consent.
@merrywivesofwindsor they sure did! Leaving the doors open for interpretation of their sick agendas for whatever goes with your kids minds and bodies!!
Faux News and this mother are definitely spinning what went on to smear Planned Parenthood. Fact: the mother signed consent for the young women to receive needed medical care off campus. Fact: the school clinic referred her to Planned Parenthood to deal with her unwanted pregnancy. No one can "arrange" an abortion except the woman involved. Fact: In Washington State, parental notification or consent is NOT required. Hence the clinic did nothing wrong and she for sure received options counseling.
@theboy1881 funny, there are plenty of children out there who would love to have families! 15 too young to make a decision to terminate a pregnancy? How bout 15 is too young to be pregnant period? She did the right thing for herself. Her mom and FOX "News" can go suck an egg.
@alabamawhirleybird Too young to have sex. Yet we won't talk about that. The sooner they start acting like whores the better in your estimation I guess.
This story has no merit as a "shocker", no laws were broken, and that woman ought to be damn grateful her daughter didn't decide to carry her pregnancy to full term. How's a 15-year-old gonna take care of a flippin' baby when she probably hasn't even had her first JOB yet?!?
@alabamawhirleybird She could have given it up for adoption. There are plenty of families out there who want children. 15 years is too young to make the decision to end a pregnancy. Deceitful practices by the school.
@alabamawhirleybird this is the price you pay for being sexually active before marriage. I know marriage doesnt mean much to people like you, but keeping your legs closed and waiting for marriage and being taught to have morals, responsibility and taking the conseqences for ones actions isnt gonna happen to a depraved, immoral society anyway.
With all the problems this country faces the fact that conservatives want to wast time on this right now is just beyond me. How about a jobs bill any time this year? Rome burns while religious zealots focus on taking away more rights from people. Amuurricca.
@theboy1881 We can't get a jobs bill or progress on anything else until you guys impose your religious beliefs on the rest of the country? Yeah, that sounds like a good way to govern a "free" nation. If you guys are so concerned with life why don't you concern yourself with the ones that are already born and need help.
@theconservativelib apparantely your ignorance doesn't account for the fact that if all these murdered unborn babies had been born they could of been adopted! that is if you care to talk about a womans choice here! women also have the choice to be informed with untrasounds prior to consent, which Planned abortionhood doesn't approve of. It cramps their style to be truthful in giving a woman a total understanding of their choices.
@theconservativelib Maybe you can get a hold of the DEMOCRAT led Senate and ask them why they are refusing to even vote on the 25 jobs bills the Republican led House has passed.
@napsmommy Don't even start that partisan crap with me. The democrats suck, that's obvious, but at least they're not wasting everybody's time pandering to the evangelical vote who won't rest till we're all under their rule. Forcing your religious beliefs upon everybody in a country that celebrates religious freedom is pretty low. Besides, don't act like you've never heard of a filibuster. The Dems can't do crap b/c of lazy obstructionists who treat this like WWE playing sides.
@theconservativelib Wow! Really?!? I replied to a partisan statement that you made and you're telling me not to start the partisan crap. LOL! You're not worth spending any time discussing this with because obviously you are so blinded by your rage against religion that you don't recognize the hypocrisy in your own post. :)
@napsmommy I'm being serious, what part of my statement was partisan? I mentioned conservatives earlier, but not the GOP. I'm not messing with you, seriously tell me what you're talking about. And I will admit, I am pretty enraged by religion. People are getting kicked out of their homes and our economy is in the crapper and you guys are focusing on a debate that the supreme court decided in 1973. I just think there's more important issues to address.
@brokenromeo73 who should have decided then? I'd be ok with giving states their rights to decide, but then you would still have people from Arizona going to California to get an abortion. Wouldn't do anything except inconvenience people.
@theconservativelib If these babies had been born you wouldn't be so mad at the world! These were babies that could of all along been working as you have the blessed right to in this country, and paying into social security which is bankrupt by like minded fools as yourself! It amazes me how stupid you libretards are... You create the problems and can't seem to figure out why this country is in delcine..
@llhughes41 You don't know how these children would end up. Unwanted children may very well fall into poverty and crime and are more likely than somebody born to a family with loving parents prepared to have a child. Fact - SS is solvent until 2037. It would be better but Clinton as well as both Bush's raided the fund. Assuming I'm a "libtard" when in fact I'm (I) is pretty ignorant. Of course anything slightly to the left of extreme is a libtard nowadays isn't it. Leave the bubble.
Hmm, the one that came up for me and that I read is about the massive regret women feel after abortion. Just googling a subject and believing what you read is not advisable, I think. I would go to medical journals for real information, compare and contrast....
There is a very good reason why there are so many women who have had abortions who now campaign against abortions. You know all those ones who hold up the signs saying 'I regret my abortion'? They count for a lot more than 5%...
@brokenromeo73 Dolly proves that a single skin cell of a sheep can become a whole sheep. It is highly likely that the same would be true of your cheek cells. Therefore every cell is a potential baby, a clone of you. You are killing these potential humans!
@Rhoslyn100 Actual medical studies show that the vast majority of women who have had abortions do not regret them despite the few that "hold up signs." There are also women who regret having children. Neither situation should impose its reaction on a women who chooses what is best for her and her family whichever path they select.
So let me try and understand this a 12 year old or 13 14 15 year old girl getting an abortion within the first trimester is the greatest evil in the world. But the Government Forcing a 12 year old girl The government Forcing A Child to give birth to another Child is perfectly ok. Forcing a child to give birth to another child is child abuse and it is a much much much more greater evil than abortion. Really the government forcing a 12 year old girl to become a mother That is really sick
@animejerk05 actually no one was forcing her to have a child....We're saying that she should take responsibility for her actions and NOT take another life because of a mistake she made and her mother obviously agrees.
@tdmdc1994 She was taking responsibility for see that she was not ready to raise a clhild or continue a pregnancy and face giving up a child. How would you not forcing her to gestate if that is the only choice that you consider acceptable? Let me add that we do not know how she became pregnant and it could have been rape or statutory rape. She is too young to consent to sex.
@foxfroggy you are very young dumb and full of stupidity. Your reply is so uneducated. If what you say is true about the girl is too young to consent to sex! Then she's too young to consent to a surgical procedure IDIOT!!
Some people don't want children but want to have sex.
Like me. I am not carrying an unwanted child in my stomach.
My womb, my body. My choice. If you don't like abortions, don't get one.
Don't condemn others to suit your beliefs. Having the government tell me what to
do with my body seems intrusive. If my birth control failed me one day, I'm buying Plan B. If my Plan B fails I'm getting an abortion. Make clinics private not funded by tax money, makes more sense.
brittanyverjes1 1 week ago
@brittanyverjes1 agreed, these people think women are baby growers, well I AM NOT
angelicabarbie21 1 week ago
@angelicabarbie21 Totally, people act like I was put on earth to have millions of children. If I don't want to have children, I shouldn't have to have children!!! No one can tell me any different.
brittanyverjes1 1 week ago
@brittanyverjes1 i know right, its like go have a bunch of kids from your own vagina not mine
angelicabarbie21 1 week ago
@brittanyverjes1 Then have your tubes tied or a hysterectomy. It is indeed your choice not to get pregnant. Currently it is also your choice to get an abortion. About the only thing I agree with what you've said here is to have the abortion clinics privately funded.
cosmos413 2 days ago
@ThatAnnoyingGuyFrom religious nuts?!? How is protecting the innocent belong just to the religious? strange that religious nuts have morals better than yours...
n9wff 1 week ago
@thelovelyarmadillos very good. Sad to see that people are willing to kill to clear " a mistake."
n9wff 1 week ago
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horsie111 1 week ago
So her mom would have taken care of the un wanted kid?
mick0438 1 week ago
@mick0438 We talked our daughter out of a scheduled abortion and adopted the baby boy. He's a 27 year old, married med student and VERY glad to be alive, NO THANKS to planned parenthood!
nobleite 1 week ago
That's unlawful coercion. It wasn't the daughters direct decision, but rather was a choice that was made by a threat of sticking her parents with a bill. You can't threaten someone into medical care.
rcnoe71 1 week ago
for all the people arguin.. abortion isnt the problem... premarital sex is
emptimusic 1 week ago
I feel the greatest destroyer of peace today is "Abortion", because it is a war against the child... A direct killing of the innocent child, "Murder" by the mother herself... And if we can accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion? As always, we must persuade her with love... And we remeind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts... - Mother Teresa
baileyb229 1 week ago 2
It may seem like that on the surface, but the girl chose that option, apparently she was much more comfortable talking to the nurse at the school clinic than her parents. Planned Parenthood did not come to the school--the girl went to them. And she was told that her parents would be responsible for paying for the abortion she chose to get if they were informed. No laws were broken, no arms twisted.
alabamawhirleybird 1 week ago
The problem here folks is Planned parenthoods aggresive pressure against a scared teenager!!!
AllieMiller 1 week ago
@AllieMiller The potential problem is for delusion religious nut parents that would refuse their daughter an abortion even if she wanted it.
ThatAnnoyingGuyFrom 1 week ago
Horrific
AllieMiller 1 week ago
@llhughes41 you are a fool if you think no woman regrets giving her baby up for adoption over aborting a pregnancy. You're out of your mind if you think EVERY unwanted child born gets adopted. And just so you know, you complete ignoramus, BABIES CAN'T WORK. Babies are physically and mentally incapable of doing anything other than eating, sleeping, crying, pooping, peeing, and learning the most basic of language and motor skills. You really work in the medical field? That's a scary thought.
alabamawhirleybird 1 week ago
@llhughes41 LOL WOW. Talk about assuming and making an ass out of yourself. If you really DID know me, you'd know that to me, marriage means a great deal, and if you'd actually read all my comments on this you would have seen that I encourage ALL younger women in my life to WAIT. But I can't sew their vaginas shut. And I will not condemn them if they don't wait. You are way too self-righteous for your own good.
alabamawhirleybird 1 week ago
To all you Anti abortionists. Don't cast your pearls before the swine thats on this message board. Your wasting your breath and beating a dead horse isn't gonna change the fact that this country is under judgement by god. Tho some of these free willed thinkers on here think they all should be allowed to act like those in Sodom and Gommorah. Let them be and they will all face the wrath of God.
llhughes41 1 week ago
@ foxfroggy, your statement of "it's not your place to decide for anyone else" also applies to its not your abortionist like minded right to decide for the unborn either as to if they live or die. Wanna clue as to who's it is?? It's GOD's choice.
llhughes41 1 week ago
All you pro abortionists sounds like a bunch of degenerate backwards libtards! @ FOXFROGGY: FYI moron, (LOL) you must get your schooling from planned abortion hood. They don't offer mammograms moron! That implies they DO mammograms , which they don't! Wanna know how I know? Because I have seen it first hand! I work in the medical field, so don't speak on behalf of something your uneducated about!!
llhughes41 1 week ago
Another reason I will always homeschool.
canadianmom25 1 week ago
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canadianmom25 1 week ago
What makes me so angry about this stupid "privacy" issue is they can teach your kids liberal morals standards and values, you as a parent have no control over that, no control over KNOWING what's happening within your child's life, (medically or emotionally per laws) yet they get out of line steal drugs alcohol vandalism who's fault is it? Ultimately, the parent is the one who pays for it. Stop teaching our kids it's ok to do what they want as long as they don't hurt anyone & playt it "safe".
Hebrews10v31 1 week ago
California is one of those jacked up states. I remember going to vote when I was around 19 and one of the propositions said something about giving abortions to minors without parental consent. Of course I voted against it since I'm pro-life... but even an Anti-lifer should vote NO! I mean that's your child getting an abortion! Why wouldn't you want to know?! My jaw dropped that night when the proposition passed. I mean only ADULTS VOTE! It's not like we were out voted by the minors! MY BRAIN!
Skad8erateher 1 week ago
Some people just wont be happy unless they are killing babies.
kg6120 1 week ago
she didn't tell her folks she was out & about fuckin so why tell about the abortion....and any one who thinks abortion is murder should watch maury povich and visit a prison......i'm sure ya know where this train of thought is headed........HMMMMMMMM
skullkramp13 2 weeks ago
@skullkramp13 No... where is that train of thought going?...
That all the murdered unborn babies would've been criminals?
So... the unborn baby is the criminal and the abortionists are the innocent ones... great logic [sarcasm].
AntichristComes 2 weeks ago
@skullkramp13 the was the dumbest defense of abortion I've ever heard.
liposuctionbuttfat 1 week ago
Abortion is Murder, no two ways about it !!!
53dumey 2 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 You have now had many hours to answer a simple yes or no question, yet every time you're asked it you disappear, and come back later with some lame attempt at an insult involving Hitler. What a miserable scum-sucking coward, you are way more like Hitler than anyone else in this thread.
alabamawhirleybird 2 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 Cat got your tongue?
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 Is THAT supposed to be your answer to the question I put to you? AGAIN, do you consider a young woman who has had sex once or with one young man to be a whore? IT's a YES OR NO QUESTION.
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy touche!
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 I'm still waiting for an answer to my whore question. It should be simple for you to answer... unless you really ARE just another mindless spoon-fed right-wing Fox News junkie. I understand that actual thinking for one's self is nigh impossible for folks like that.
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy, strange. Brokenromeo73 can spew all kinds of hateful rhetoric against people he knows absolutely nothing about, but has yet to answer a simple question from me. Meanwhile you are as eloquent as you can be, and getting attacked from all sides for being an actual thinking human being. Running circles around the spoon-fed, you are.
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@alabamawhirleybird Thanks, but methinks some of these folks are, to quote Shakespeare, actually "rump fed."
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@alabamawhirley I still say you crack whores are worse than Hitler
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
its not her parents body, its hers
angelicabarbie21 3 weeks ago
@angelicabarbie21 It's not her body that she would be murdering, it's the child's.
thelovelyarmadillos 1 week ago
@thelovelyarmadillos its her body that its growing in so she can do what she wants
angelicabarbie21 1 week ago
@angelicabarbie21 So, going by that logic, (hypothetical scenario here) if you left your dog at my house I have the right to kill the dog?
I mean, it's MY house your dog was living in so I can do what I want, right?
thelovelyarmadillos 1 week ago
@thelovelyarmadillos if you agreed to have the dog, then i would let you take care of it, i do not agree to having something grwo inside of me, and i can do what i wish with my body, if you dont like pro choice and abortions dont have one but dont tell me i cant
angelicabarbie21 1 week ago 2
@angelicabarbie21 That is such empty logic! The "If you don't like abortions don't have one" argument is just like the "If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex" argument that liberals criticize. How about we say "If you don't want to be pregnant, than use reliable birth control? Educate yourself? How hard is it - I mean, you're already on the internet - why don't you google 'pregnancy prevention' while you're at it, please?
DerangedHousewife 1 week ago
@DerangedHousewife i dont expect any pro life ppl like you fox lovers to understand actual reasonable logic. if you knew anything about birth control, it can fail, and if it fails for me, i will be getting an abortion, and you cannot stop me from getting one, why? maybe because it isnt your body, its mine
angelicabarbie21 1 week ago
@thelovelyarmadillos Well, no - because animal rights are important and they deserve to be respected and treated well. Killing helpless animals is wrong and we MUST fight for them! *sarcasm*
DerangedHousewife 1 week ago
@DerangedHousewife i would rather have a dog/cat then a baby any day thank you very much
angelicabarbie21 1 week ago
@angelicabarbie21
I agree! I don't want children either, let alone carrying one around in my stomach because some crazy women says so.
brittanyverjes1 1 week ago
@thelovelyarmadillos That doesn't make sense."It's MY house your dog was living in so I can do what I want." Well her fetus is NOT in YOUR body. The fetus is in hers body not yours. If the fetus was in your body , you could rid it or whatever. If that women does not want a kid growing in her stomach, she doesn't have to. I am for people expressing their beliefs and living by them but when you try to push your beliefs on someone against their own will. That becomes enough.
brittanyverjes1 1 week ago
@brittanyverjes1 "If that woman does not want a kid growing in her stomach, she doesn't have to" Well she wouldnt have gotten pregnant if she had used any of the hundreds of thousands of contraceptive pills out there or spermacide or if she had her partner wear a condom and made sure that it was new and that it did not have any rips or tares in it.When you have unprotected sex or if you dont make sure that preventive measures are adequate then it's likely you will get pregnant.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 The word fetus in its original latin useage means young or offspring.So your saying that she has the right to get rid of her offspring if she doesnt want it? So why just stop at developing babies in the womb? Why not extened the reach to children under 5?Arent they still in development?Are they not merely potential adults and not actual human beings with the right to life as reserved for all men under the constitution?
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 So by that logic,if a woman doesn't want to raise her kids she can just have them euthanized.Why bother with adoption?Its quicker and cheaper to just kill them right?Besides your the one whos suffering because youre too young to raise a baby,right?Or it's simply not the right time for a child.How dare that fetus form in your womb after you didnt take the necessary precautions to stop a perfectly natural event called fertilization.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 Shame on that developing baby you call a fetus as an ironic attempt to dehumanize it.Because its the babies fault, right?And the 15yr old girl who had no business having sex in the first place, is just a victim in a male shovenistic system,right?
"I am for people expressing their beliefs and living by them but when you try to push your beliefs on someone against their own will. That becomes enough."Hey,I agree with you! :) So that means ppl shouldnt impose their
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 beliefs onto ppl,right? So why do we convienently exclude developing babies from this?Why is it ok to for a woman to say "i believe that i should be able to kill my baby while its in the womb because its in MY body and messing up MY life"?Doesnt the baby have a life?Oh,I forgot, it's just a fetus!My mistake. So since its just a fetus that is a totaly seperate being from the mother's own body,she still has the right to kill it cuz its in her body?
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 Hey I'm not mad at ya I just think you have some seriously flawed logic, brittanyverjes1.Women have access to the pill,condoms,speracide and much more.If you dont want a baby use these contraceptives correctly.If you do get pregnant give the child up for adoption.Simple. And dont give me this excuse "but i dont want to carry a baby for 9months". Well your mom did it and many women did it b4 there were hospitals.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 There are many women out there who cant have a baby naturally and everytime a baby is aborted,it's just like a slap in the face for these women.So please do some research on abortion and find out what it really is.You can start by looking up the real meaning of the word 'fetus'. I wish you a good day.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 its not natural, i dont want some damn thing growing inside of me, i could argue till the day i die over this, i dont want kids, and not one of you pro life advocates will EVER change my mind,i didnt ask to be here, or to be a girl, they are doing everyone a favor, try living a life you dont want to live because you were a mistake, not so easy when you dont have the perfect life now is it
angelicabarbie21 1 day ago
@angelicabarbie21 If you really dont want kinds then just get your tubes tied.Simple.None of asked to be here, dear,but the fact is, we are here.None of those babies asked to be aborted either but, they were.If pregnancy wasnt natural then women wouldnt be able to give birth.Furthermore,you just dont make any sense.Good day.
TheBunnygirl20 17 hours ago
@TheBunnygirl20 what makes no sense is why i have to be some baby maker, IM NOT. im a girl, a woman, someone who deserves a choice of what to do woth her own body, and i will never give that right up, and no one will tie my tubes at 18, believe me, ive asked, so guess what? i will get one should i get pregnant
angelicabarbie21 10 hours ago
@TheBunnygirl20
Look, I think abortion should be available to the first 24 months, regardless of if you call it murder or not. I think it should be available to rape cases. Do you think women enjoy having abortions, do you think women laugh about it? No, you are wrong, totally wrong. That is one of the most scariest days in there lives, what strikes me funny is that you have baby syndrome, you care about the fetus but soon as it is born.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
You people are no where to be seen.
"Well she wouldn't have gotten pregnant if she had used any of the hundreds of thousands of contraceptive pills"... Fail, you would know, sometimes it just doesn't work. Pills/contraceptives/plan B isn't invincible.There are 520,000 children are in fostercare in the US.If I want a child, I will adopt one of them.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 "You people"?What do you mean by "you people"?Plz explain that. Honey, contraceptives are there to help prevent unwanted pregnancies. They aren't invincible and i never said they were.If used correctly they have a 99.9% chance of being effective.Rape is a bad thing that happens to some women but its no reason to destroy anther life that is inocent just because it was created under undesirable circumstances.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 You people, the kind of person who sees one comment on youtube and comments 6 times. Sweetheart, of course there are contraceptives, but they don't work ALL the time. So you think a teen girl should be forced to look at herself in the mirror and go through the traumatic experience of throwing up, seeing her belly stretch , having flashbacks of the rape, that is calling for trauma. "Oh well screw you, you didn't want it but you got it anyway, incubator". Tsk.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Lol there is nothing that suggests she was raped.Rape and incest reasons are just 1% of all abortions in the U.S. And besides, having an abortion wont ease the pain of a rape or incest victim.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
It doesn't mean you should close down the the clinic or bomb them because of such a low percentage, does it? They still should have the option. I'm not talking about this girl by the way. It won't ease the pain, of course it won't but you think a young kid who got raped watching her body morph into someone she doesn't recognize wouldn't be traumatic and be even more damaging. How on earth will you deny that?
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Because first of all its illegal in almost all 50 states including the one mentiond, for a girl that young to be sexually active.Second, she knew how babies were made so she has no excuse and i'm sure she knew what changes would happen to her body if she became pregnant.Third the reasons youre giving for ending a life are just superficial.And fourth, you keep bringing up rape here but rape is not the issue here.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 With proper counseling and support many rape victums have carried a baby to term and either had it adopted or they raised it themselves.So rape is just no excuse what so ever.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
First , because rape is true, just because it is a small percentage doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Second, I'm aware of the girl in the video. She should have alerted her parents.
Third, Just because it is illegal doesn't mean people don't do it all the time.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Lol ok now youre putting words in my mouth.I never said rape doesnt happen and if i did then plz quote me word for word.And crack is illegal too and ppl do it all the time but they know the consequences of doing drugs just like that girl knew the full well what she was doing and tried to hide it from her parents.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 No I am not putting words in your mouth. I am saying rape is "true" meaning rape is still there, just because the percentage is small, doesn't mean we should say it doesn't count. That's how you make it seem.
"And fourth, you keep bringing up rape here but rape is not the issue here".
But rape does happen. It may be 1% but, it still is there.
"So rape is just no excuse what so ever".
Wow what a very rigid stance on such a sensitive issues.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 I never said it didnt count. "That's just how you make it seem." No, thats just how you interpreted it.The rape will still be there even after the abortion so how is abortion the solution to a problem it can't solve?
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
I actually think that unless you have gone through a woman who has been raped and impregnated, you can't speak so lightly and rigid of the situation.I'm focusing on abused women, they are who I feel for. Even I'm attempting to be sympathetic I know, it is much more horrid than I can imagine. Second crack, is illegal because the "War on Drugs" is a money game.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Speaking lightly and ridged?You dont know me or how i was concieved so i'll tell you. I was born out of wedlock.I was an unintended pregnancy and if my mother had chose to abort me I would not be here today to speak out about this.So i am not speaking lightly because a few decades ago i was a fetus who could've been abort like the 4000 or so that get terminated regularly here in the US by women who are in the same position as my mother was.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
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brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
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@brittanyverjes1 I've seen your pamphlets, hell I even watched the videos! I still think saying "If you aren't anti, you are a murderer" is very hypocritical and blunt. I also think "Pro abortions just because you can" is a very bad thing. I do not have a rigid stance, it fluctuates because I'm not an extremist. Young woman, I know very well how the reproductive system works and I know about abortions. If you think this is an argument, grow up. This was a debate. Good day.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Ok. so then you know that an abortion is an induced miscarriage and you'd also know that if a woman has just 1 miscarriage it greatly reduces her cahnces of having a second sucessful pregnancy.So 1 abortion= 1 miscarriage and multi aborts means that the woman may not even be able to carry a baby to term even if she really wants to keep it.And by 'research' i mean looking at actual statistics and learning about the real procedures done.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 I mean finding real unbiased knowledge about the subject that is free from a pro-life or pro-choice motive so that you can learn the truth for yourself.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
Oh yes one more thing and I am sorry for your family members who had to deal with sexual abuse. I'm sorry they had to go through such a thing. Yes and I no the procedure, I've seen the photos, I've heard the storys. But one size does not fit all. That is all I can to say to that.
Best wishes
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Best wishes to you as well :)
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
Superficial, who can dictate what is superficial , that is not superficial, the mental damage it will have it not shallow. It is deeper than that. Even I can't relate to what a woman would go through. So, you don't care about the mothers wellbeing/health? I thought you were for all life and healthiness. The wellbeing of everyone. Why not care about the both of them?
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Now youre just grasping at straws here.She,the 15yr old was not reported to have been raped,Ok? Rape is more than just a few stretch marks here and there,and strech marks dont make it ok to kill the unborn anyway.How are streatch marks affecting her health? When a person gets raped they need counseling not abortion.Abortion only makes things worse.What all do you know about abortion and the effects it has on a woman's reproductive system?
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 I could argue with you on youtube forever but,unless you do the research for yourself from an unbiased source(be it pro-choice or pro-life),then it wont do either of us any good.I implore you to educate yourself on abortion,what it really is and how it impacts women's reproductive organs.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
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brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 No, rape is mental. It is the feeling of fear, shattered personalties, break downs, flashbacks not just stretchmarks. It is pain, it is denial. It is hatred. I've heard my mother talk about it. I couldn't wrap my head around it. Yes it is being violated. It is being hurt, your trust ripped away. I can only say what she has said. For you to insinuate that I think it is only stretch marks, is just sad. Yes, I do know, I know the process.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Well I'm srry for what happened to your mother.And yet you twist my words.I didnt insinuate anything.I merely stated that strech marks and body changes are superficial reasons for abortion.I've known plenty of ppl in my family who have been sexually abused or assaulted.What kind of help did your mother recieve to help ease the pain of her rape?Did she seek any mental help at all? You should thank your grandmother for your existence and not blame her for what
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 happened to your mother.Because of the stern beliefs of your grandmother you are here in the world.And my own brother was sodomized so yes i do know a bit about the trauma of rape
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
I never said the abortion was the final solution. I just think it should be an option for horrible cases. My mother put her in an abusive institution at the age of 14 for help. She is back at a new institution ever since 1989.No, the two haven't spoke ever since she was 14. But thank you for all the kind words. I just think people shouldn't be so fixed on one side.
It isn't okay.
One size doesn't fit all.
But best wishes.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
My mother was raped in the 70s when she was 14, my Christian grandmother forced her to keep the child, my mother now suffers from severe split personalities, that she used to cope with her pregnancy. Her mind was fragmented from keeping an unwanted child.She acts like scared 14 year old girl and a 48 year old woman. She is not a well person. I've seen the result of what can happen from a woman growing a child she never asked for and didn't want. Very sad.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 Had your mother not made that sacrifice you would not be here posting on youtube.
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
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@TheBunnygirl20 "I merely stated that stretch marks and body changes are superficial reasons for abortion". Well, I can state that for the sake mental health (I mean on the verge of insanity) or a sickness are reasons not to be so rigid.
"I've known plenty of ppl in my family who have been sexually abused or assaulted"
Doesn't matter they are all different, some will cope, others will go crazy. Each case is different. There is no one size fits all when it comes to that.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20 "Do you think women enjoy having abortions,..." No, i dont think any sane woman would enjoy destroying a developing life.However,47% of all abortions are repeat abortions according to reserch done by the Guttmacher Institute.That means that 47% of women who've had an abortion have another one.It seems like abortion just makes it easier for these women to terminate their responsbilities.SMH
TheBunnygirl20 5 days ago
@TheBunnygirl20
47% that get abortions are repeat, what about the other 53% who get an abortions only once. Why not point out that a little over half of the women that don't. You should study how statistics are made and manipulating, you can always use them in favor for anything. I personally think abortion should be an option until the early second semester or until there is a large problem with the pregnancy.
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@brittanyverjes1 *or if there is a large problem
brittanyverjes1 5 days ago
@nammypammy: PP saves lives by providing needed health care. There contraception services prevent a great many abortions. They provide prenatal care to women in need and cancer screening. No government funds are used for abortions. I have no respect for people like you who are so full of hate, lies, and judgment.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy Planned Murderhood has killed more people than Hitler and are fast approaching the body count of Stalin. Abortion is murder plain and simple. A female who would kill a child is the lowest form of trash in existence. There is no difference between a woman having an abortion and someone paying a hit man to murder someone. And I can careless about how little respect you have for me. To support murder you are no better than than trash. A real woman would protect children.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 There is no such thing as Planned Murderhood and abortion is not murder legally, ethically or biblically. The opinions of an ignoramus like you have less value than something I'd scrape off of my shoe. Since you can't get pregnant, what women do with their own bodies is none of your business. Your beliefs are just that and are binding on no one but you. I am a pacifist and most certainly do not support murder and I do not suffer liars like you quietly.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy again you shine in stupidity. Didnt you learn anything today from these posts little uneducated one? I will only tell you once more, libtard retard, planned parenthood does not provide cancer screenings much less do referrals for one.
will you stop with your ignorance!
llhughes41 1 week ago
@brokenromeo73: More lies from you, typical of those who want to control others. There is no credible evidence that abortion increases cancer or mental illness risk. As for the Bible, the "I knew you before you were conceived" refers to a person who actually exists. The products of conception are only potentially a human being. Abortion is never treated as murder in the Bible. Now butt out of the personal health care decisions of others.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy Murder is murder. your little mind can't comprehend that. Dont quote the bible unless you are educated enough to do so! FYI: people in the bible never got abortions because no one had access to that type of technology. I'm guessing you were hoping GOD would of made your illiterate ass a personal list by definition of murder. Are you that uneducated that you can't define the meaning of the word??
llhughes41 1 week ago
This is Planned Parenthood at it's best! Destroying lives and getting government funds to do it!!
nammypammy 3 weeks ago 8
abortion is murder. God hates america
GODH8ZZ 3 weeks ago
And where do you get your "greatly increased development of cancer and mental issues" data from? The greatest mental issues I can think of off the top of my head tend to stem from people like you who stand on your sandy hill of self-righteousness and play judge, jury and executioner without even looking at the case.
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@alabamawhirleybird I suspect these nonfacts came from some stupid antichoice site or like many of these people he/she/it just made them up.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 I ask again, and I'd like a direct answer--do you consider a girl/young woman who has sex one time or with one boy/young man to be a whore? The classic definition of a whore is one who commits sex acts for money. (By the way, a male can be a whore too.)
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy, you are awesome.
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73, Wow. If a girl has sex one time, or with one boy, does that make her a whore? You do have a very valid point about 15 being too young to have sex. (And not like I need to gain your approval for anything, I always tell the young women in my life to wait.) But your screen name hints and your trite delivery shows that you have immense ignorance about sexuality, and women in general.
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@alabamawhirleybird My screen name was and is a joke. I think advocating a woman go through a procedure that greatly enhances her chances at developing cancer and mental health issues to be very anti-woman. Some of the children are alsp female yet you have no concern for them.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@alabamawhirleybird I agree that I cannot understand the blood thirsty, selfish and angry women who are so far removed from womanhood that they cannot see anything wrong with murdering children. I only associate with women. You know those that understand life and do not shirk their responsibilities. I just do not have patients for blood thirsty females.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 No"children " are involved in an abortion save for those who have been impregnated far too young. You are clueless about the manifold reasons women have to terminate a pregnancy and as for hate, you exude it from every pore. And FWIW, you can't even spell "patience."
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@alabamawhirleybird In my opinion only a whore would kill her children.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
To the idiot who asked "who the hell are you to decide when life begins" I just want to say that I am a woman with lupus who risked her life twice to have wanted children and whose grown daughters are of child bearing age. Who the hell are you to make decisions for them or anyone else? If you are one to wave the Bible around, it does not consider you a person until you draw breath. A pregnant woman is most definitely alive while an embryo or fetus is only a potential human being.Real life 1st.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy Remarkable inept understanding of the bible. One cannot not know another unless they are alive. God states to two people in scripture that He knew them since conception. That is at the moment the egg and sperm unite. Do not argue the bible unless you really know it, you seem quite foolish when you do. There is no biblical backing for your assertion that the bible does not consider you a person until you draw breath.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 Oh ignorant one, the moment at which a sperm and egg unite you only have a potential pregnancy let alone a potential person. A large number of zygotes do not successfully implant and there is no actual pregnancy. Nature/God is the most prolific abortionist of all. As for the Bible, you are as ignorant of that as you are of reproductive biology. Question: At what point did Adam become a "living soul"?
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@SpecializedChild462 Why do you find it necessary to lie and spread such ignorance? There is no fetus at 6 weeks, at that stage it is an embryo and it most certainly does not have an nervous system developed enough to perceive pain. If you don want to have an abortion, that's your business. What another woman decides is hers and hers alone. There is no child until birth and no woman is obligated to provide an infant for those who want to adopt.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy what ignorance you have. A embryo has a nervous system! thats what controls its movements that are whats called involuntary voluntary. THEY move their limbs at this stage. Go to medical school and then get back to me IDIOT!!
llhughes41 1 week ago
@brokenromeo73: Dear ignorant woman hater, 97% of what Planned Parenthood does has nothing to do with abortion. Their family planning services prevent millions of unwanted pregnancies and hence prevent abortions. Whatever idiocy you believe about pregnancy, it's not your place to decide for anyone else.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy We do when it comes to murder! Who the hell are you to decide when life begins?
Gmikevw 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy And Hitler thought he was doing his nation a service by getting rid of wanted people also. Except Hitler was no where near as efficient as planned murderhood.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 Whining about Hitler is the typical resort of someone who has no idea what they are talking about and no facts on their side.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy Advocating against the murder of innocent children makes me a woman hater? Wow, do words have meaning where you come from? Or pointing out that pregnancy is 100 percent preventable. If there is no sex there is no conception. Wow, that sounds like common sense. When will society begin using that gift again?
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 More amazing ignorance. No children are murdered in abortion and no form of birth control is "100%" reliable. That includes abstinence since a woman could still be raped. It's incredibly presumptuous of you to insist on celibacy or be forced to gestate based on what you want and "think" to use that term quite loosely. Children should come into the world because they are wanted, not as a punishment for being sexually active.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
why is this a big deal?
xtinerox8797 3 weeks ago
Mitt Romney funded Planned Parenthood, funded abortions - even for minors, and supported the ability of minors' to obtain abortions without parental consent.
blogbat 3 weeks ago
The parent signed the form leaving the daughter up for grabs. That is the fact.
Our school system is run by psychiatry (since 1963) They have set it up this way.
merrywivesofwindsor 3 weeks ago
@merrywivesofwindsor Sounds like you have been brai washed by $cientology. Care to show some proof of your absurd claim?
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@merrywivesofwindsor they sure did! Leaving the doors open for interpretation of their sick agendas for whatever goes with your kids minds and bodies!!
llhughes41 1 week ago
Faux News and this mother are definitely spinning what went on to smear Planned Parenthood. Fact: the mother signed consent for the young women to receive needed medical care off campus. Fact: the school clinic referred her to Planned Parenthood to deal with her unwanted pregnancy. No one can "arrange" an abortion except the woman involved. Fact: In Washington State, parental notification or consent is NOT required. Hence the clinic did nothing wrong and she for sure received options counseling.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy Planned Murderhood is more guilty than Hitler!
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@theboy1881 funny, there are plenty of children out there who would love to have families! 15 too young to make a decision to terminate a pregnancy? How bout 15 is too young to be pregnant period? She did the right thing for herself. Her mom and FOX "News" can go suck an egg.
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@alabamawhirleybird Too young to have sex. Yet we won't talk about that. The sooner they start acting like whores the better in your estimation I guess.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
This story has no merit as a "shocker", no laws were broken, and that woman ought to be damn grateful her daughter didn't decide to carry her pregnancy to full term. How's a 15-year-old gonna take care of a flippin' baby when she probably hasn't even had her first JOB yet?!?
alabamawhirleybird 3 weeks ago
@alabamawhirleybird She could have given it up for adoption. There are plenty of families out there who want children. 15 years is too young to make the decision to end a pregnancy. Deceitful practices by the school.
theboy1881 3 weeks ago 3
@alabamawhirleybird this is the price you pay for being sexually active before marriage. I know marriage doesnt mean much to people like you, but keeping your legs closed and waiting for marriage and being taught to have morals, responsibility and taking the conseqences for ones actions isnt gonna happen to a depraved, immoral society anyway.
llhughes41 1 week ago
With all the problems this country faces the fact that conservatives want to wast time on this right now is just beyond me. How about a jobs bill any time this year? Rome burns while religious zealots focus on taking away more rights from people. Amuurricca.
theconservativelib 3 weeks ago
@theconservativelib How about a life of a child, a potential human being. Means more than some job bill.
theboy1881 3 weeks ago
@theboy1881 We can't get a jobs bill or progress on anything else until you guys impose your religious beliefs on the rest of the country? Yeah, that sounds like a good way to govern a "free" nation. If you guys are so concerned with life why don't you concern yourself with the ones that are already born and need help.
theconservativelib 3 weeks ago
@theconservativelib apparantely your ignorance doesn't account for the fact that if all these murdered unborn babies had been born they could of been adopted! that is if you care to talk about a womans choice here! women also have the choice to be informed with untrasounds prior to consent, which Planned abortionhood doesn't approve of. It cramps their style to be truthful in giving a woman a total understanding of their choices.
llhughes41 1 week ago
@theconservativelib Maybe you can get a hold of the DEMOCRAT led Senate and ask them why they are refusing to even vote on the 25 jobs bills the Republican led House has passed.
napsmommy 3 weeks ago
@napsmommy Don't even start that partisan crap with me. The democrats suck, that's obvious, but at least they're not wasting everybody's time pandering to the evangelical vote who won't rest till we're all under their rule. Forcing your religious beliefs upon everybody in a country that celebrates religious freedom is pretty low. Besides, don't act like you've never heard of a filibuster. The Dems can't do crap b/c of lazy obstructionists who treat this like WWE playing sides.
theconservativelib 3 weeks ago
@theconservativelib Wow! Really?!? I replied to a partisan statement that you made and you're telling me not to start the partisan crap. LOL! You're not worth spending any time discussing this with because obviously you are so blinded by your rage against religion that you don't recognize the hypocrisy in your own post. :)
napsmommy 3 weeks ago
@napsmommy I'm being serious, what part of my statement was partisan? I mentioned conservatives earlier, but not the GOP. I'm not messing with you, seriously tell me what you're talking about. And I will admit, I am pretty enraged by religion. People are getting kicked out of their homes and our economy is in the crapper and you guys are focusing on a debate that the supreme court decided in 1973. I just think there's more important issues to address.
theconservativelib 3 weeks ago
@theconservativelib It was not for the Supreme Court to decide.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 who should have decided then? I'd be ok with giving states their rights to decide, but then you would still have people from Arizona going to California to get an abortion. Wouldn't do anything except inconvenience people.
theconservativelib 3 weeks ago
@theconservativelib If these babies had been born you wouldn't be so mad at the world! These were babies that could of all along been working as you have the blessed right to in this country, and paying into social security which is bankrupt by like minded fools as yourself! It amazes me how stupid you libretards are... You create the problems and can't seem to figure out why this country is in delcine..
llhughes41 1 week ago
@llhughes41 You don't know how these children would end up. Unwanted children may very well fall into poverty and crime and are more likely than somebody born to a family with loving parents prepared to have a child. Fact - SS is solvent until 2037. It would be better but Clinton as well as both Bush's raided the fund. Assuming I'm a "libtard" when in fact I'm (I) is pretty ignorant. Of course anything slightly to the left of extreme is a libtard nowadays isn't it. Leave the bubble.
theconservativelib 1 week ago
I would be so mad as a mother if that happened to me :/
Thatsamystery0 4 weeks ago 2
Hmm, the one that came up for me and that I read is about the massive regret women feel after abortion. Just googling a subject and believing what you read is not advisable, I think. I would go to medical journals for real information, compare and contrast....
There is a very good reason why there are so many women who have had abortions who now campaign against abortions. You know all those ones who hold up the signs saying 'I regret my abortion'? They count for a lot more than 5%...
Rhoslyn100 1 month ago 2
@Rhoslyn100 Come on, regret is never the reason given. The reason is that religions want to control people and they are willing to lie to do it.
farvision 3 weeks ago
@farvision Oh you mean like Planned Parenthood. Started by a woman who openly advocated genocide.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 stop biting your lip, you are killing babies!
farvision 3 weeks ago
@farvision What a pointless and idiotic comment that adds nothing to the conversation.
brokenromeo73 3 weeks ago
@brokenromeo73 Dolly proves that a single skin cell of a sheep can become a whole sheep. It is highly likely that the same would be true of your cheek cells. Therefore every cell is a potential baby, a clone of you. You are killing these potential humans!
farvision 3 weeks ago
@Rhoslyn100 Actual medical studies show that the vast majority of women who have had abortions do not regret them despite the few that "hold up signs." There are also women who regret having children. Neither situation should impose its reaction on a women who chooses what is best for her and her family whichever path they select.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
This is an effing outrage!
int3ll3r0n 2 months ago
of course it's on fox news
DoctorDrewification 2 months ago
So let me try and understand this a 12 year old or 13 14 15 year old girl getting an abortion within the first trimester is the greatest evil in the world. But the Government Forcing a 12 year old girl The government Forcing A Child to give birth to another Child is perfectly ok. Forcing a child to give birth to another child is child abuse and it is a much much much more greater evil than abortion. Really the government forcing a 12 year old girl to become a mother That is really sick
animejerk05 2 months ago
@animejerk05 actually no one was forcing her to have a child....We're saying that she should take responsibility for her actions and NOT take another life because of a mistake she made and her mother obviously agrees.
tdmdc1994 2 months ago
@tdmdc1994 I was talking in general to prolifers that want to make abortion illegal. I was saying the government can force you to carry???
animejerk05 2 months ago
@tdmdc1994 She was taking responsibility for see that she was not ready to raise a clhild or continue a pregnancy and face giving up a child. How would you not forcing her to gestate if that is the only choice that you consider acceptable? Let me add that we do not know how she became pregnant and it could have been rape or statutory rape. She is too young to consent to sex.
foxfroggy 3 weeks ago
@foxfroggy you are very young dumb and full of stupidity. Your reply is so uneducated. If what you say is true about the girl is too young to consent to sex! Then she's too young to consent to a surgical procedure IDIOT!!
llhughes41 1 week ago