功夫測試 Ving Tsun Kung Fu testing

[MrFreestyler96]

Damn it , I don´t understand the intro..

[hedende]

I dont want to be rude(i know wing tsun is one of the best fighting systems) but those punches are not accurate.. you have to punch in the face then he needs to block/attack.. Am i wrong?

[dragon1965]

@hedende Maybe wrong maybe right,In this test is only for beginner,so we don't go for face,eye,groin,or full power to bit students.

[Ronnock]

@dragon1965 I agree with the original poster to a certain point. I think the defender (testee) should wear head-gear and a mouth-guard, while the attacker (tester), should wear some kind of 4 oz. glove and then go for it.

[JOHNNYwxw]

@hedende 100% agree

[HARDSTOPHIT]

That was good. Ive not seen that before. Is that standard testing for this style?

[dragon1965]

@HARDSTOPHIT no,it is not standard testing in Ving Tsun style.

[tommivercetti30]

@dragon1965 I fully agree it is not standard at all... Im a Ving Tsun practitioner myself. As soon as the opposition even started to move in, looking like he was going to punch or kick, you would be stepping in with several punches down the center line. Which all relates to Loi lau hoi sung, Lat sau jik cheung - Accept what comes, follow what leaves and when the hands withdraw, attack without hesitation.

[DonMega187]

@HARDSTOPHIT it's standard for any wing chun stylist who wants to keep his practise practical. random attacks, although here perhaps some of the punches were not too accurate, but atleast the power was there. it's little harder to block a punch aimed directly to face though, perhaps he's just not on that level yet to be ready for it. one slip and it's a bloody nose for the rest of the day. couple slips and it gets quite unhygienic too heh

[narutovax]

esta demostrado que el wing chun es le kung fu tecnica definitiva ....excelente..quede sorprendido de las habilidades 

[Sinderking]

@dragon1965 this is a good application mate

[Greathoof]

You are way better than me, and I really admire your knowledge, but:

Don't pull your arm behind your back for a kick.

[kevinyang916]

Joe Rogan should watch this and think about what he said about wing chun

[Bilino1957]

his kick your hands not you .. --''

think about this.. ;)

[DonMega187]

@Bilino1957 yes pretty much. normally u'd move more

[HaloFreakLikeMe97]

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[58dragonmist]

your stance is too open when he attacks lucky he didnt throw any low kicks

[adsl2912117]

無事起腳三分險 請珍惜生命

↑我看到這句時，我笑了......

[dragon1965]

@adsl2912117 哈哈!,好開心可以令你一笑^^多謝!!!

[bowerybaker]

lol nice ending lol

[Azfargh]

It´s not another ignorant comment: when u train like that, ask for ur colleague to actually DO land the attacks (not try). Pick up someone closer to ur size or down your base to his level. Relax the arm until the attacks lands at it.

By the way, nice blocking... just relax more.

[mokyan7]

Sometimes when we practice and there is a side or roundhouse kick, we could: 1.)gan saus; 2). quan sau; 3.) step into the attacker; 4.) step back; 5.) use the muay thai block of arm up (w/bent elbow, side of head), with simultaneous raised knee (this is great for an instant, unplanned side attack). number 3 is good because then you are inside the arc and there is less power. You can also pak sau, punch, knee, or kick the attacker's hip or upper leg to stop the kick. I need to practice it more.

[justinity]

Is the Asian guy at the beginning of this video a teacher from California?

[adgjmptwmjtdahjp]

詠春拳かな？

[KRAK107]

Very good demonstration dragonball you aim for arms you hit arms.

[backdraft1420]

ive learned wing chun for two years and i must admit that everything is not applicable for a real fight.You will get your ass kicked if you think just having a lop soa and bong is going to save you.You must use the application and also take in other self defence techniques to protect yourself,but all in all ving tsun is a good art to learn on your spare time,just my opinion.

[majin2912]

I agree. Would think that deflecting would be better than stopping a kick. But I just started learning WC (Moy Yat lineage) so I'm far from an authority.

[shawandrew]

This appears to be one of the better ing un videos. I'm sorta familiar with the chun, but it usually looks like crap. this one looks a bit better. I though chunners didn't do roundhouse kicks. Anyway, I'm not sure that defense would be best against a strong round kick. This guy doesn't appear to be putting much power into it. When I did muay thai, he kicks were hard. only way to trap it was to move to the side to where the kick has less power first.

[xiaou2]

@shawandrew - MT kicks r much slower than the kick he threw. U see them coming a mile away, so its usually a simple punk kick to the groin, which even when late, will beat the MT power round kick.

[MrTileboy]

these guys have great technic, but i wouldnt block a kick with a tan sau. He should be steping forward with a hoon sau and a punch. then the guy would be on his ass not lineing up for the next kick

[Garo1128]

無事起腳三分險呢句好

[thebtran1]

if you have a good wrestling/grappling you could be taken down to the ground

[williamwilson666]

I actually think this is ok. Quite tactile- which is what wing chun is all about- but if the guy with the long hair relaxed a little more, this would improve no end.

[headcrabforfood]

really nice blocks man

[leavemtwisted]

the ton sau can stop a boxers punch the harder the punch is thrown the more it hurts the puncher ...takes no energy to block it just putting your body behind it same for the high kick and thumbs up to xilawei its the small things that make all the difference

[nkcliff]

simaltanious attack and defence has always been my understanding of wc, also to static

[DRoBeR]

What if the opponent tries to kick me under my hip or knees? Is it good to be taller then? I am not on Martial Arts or any fighting sport... I am just viewer but I might take some lessons if I think I can do it. :)

[cameljockey8888]

Great video, some of the best quality kung fu I have seen online. Shoulders back and relaxed not turning away and leaning. But yes hands to block a kick rare but will work if you needed to. VT is know for foot to foot hand to hand combat Not hand to foot etc.

[chepalleee]

this is pathetic. The small asian guy is really g a y, he's not even trying to hit his partner in the face, instead he's aiming for his man sao wu sao.

I would like to try and punch him and see how much can he block.

Wing chun is not for blocking, learn to flow instead of stopping your opponent energy.

[dragon1965]

@chepalleee I am sorry about your gay comment .Good Ving Tsun man or lady will not talk gay .Try to talk like a man.

[DanielTejnicky]

@dragon1965 Very nicely said =)

[erwinrotztheke]

@dragon1965 How about scissors gan sao instead of tan sao for the roundhouse kick?

[dragon1965]

@erwinrotztheke Test it, If it work,why not.I use one hand because I have strong arm and

strong form.This test is only tells I could stop his kick ,his power.It does not meain I could

stop everybody's kick.

[CelticPoison]

@dragon1965 Iv become fascinated with Wing Chun and plan on taking it up in about a couple months. Now I realize this was a demonstration, but could the attacker not break your forearm if that was a real kick? It just seemed like your arm was absorbing the impact, rather than deflecting it.

[dragon1965]

@CelticPoison Very good Question! We are using angle position to deflecting some of the power,and our strong arm absorbing the rest of impact.Regular martail artist or below may break there arm,dont copy if you dont have enough trainning!

[CelticPoison]

@dragon1965 Cool, thanks for the reply.

[tomix1970pl1]

In Wing Chun we care about partner that is why small asian guy keep distance from the face, it is respect approach, we need a partner to come later instaed staying in hospital, another thing, i saw blocking mua tay roun kick on tansall with another hand helping but structure of the body must be perfect and lock to stand the hit and you should be advanced student to do it.

[tonyvalente]

@chepalleee where's your video loser? your profile is so sad. playing with animals you lonely prick.

[Kenneth9725]

@chepalleee ''learn to flow instead of stopping your opponent energy.'' i AGREE with you!! like what bruce lee said. let it flow, like water

[dlvt79]

@chepalleee This is william chang concept and more masters again.U probably learn LT system.I agree.BUT...It needs much more time to learn and most people cant wait.Keep training

[MrFuckingZero]

@chepalleee You are trully master of this art . That is sure . You would like to punch that guy ... yeah , that is very interesting . high IQ , huh ?

[cal086]

@chepalleee your right to a certain degree, Ive trained kungfu for years and to be honest this is not really any kind of impressive blocking or even real technique, a person off the street could do this with no training....

[maxboucher86]

@chepalleee What you might not have noticed is because of there different heights the asian man should punch aiming the solar plexus.

[200ike]

@chepalleee Dude any well trained Wing Chun fighter would wipe the floor with you.

[Nuthor]

To stop a cross punch or round kick this way!

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

Albert Eistein

[xilawei]

I agree with you on that point dragon 1965 ... The structure in WC is very important and you can put some muscle strength into it , like on a tan Sao but should not rely on it to make the technique work

[dragon1965]

@xilawei The way I think is how to adjust the balance of skill and strength.

If the opponent is stronger then me,I will use more skill,If opponent is a weak beginner,I will direct go in.

[stf092]

@xilawei say whattt???? the structure in the toilet?:|:))))

[whyim]

i like ur said 無事起腳三分險,haha

[xilawei]

hummm.... a tan sao to deflect a kick.... if the kick is weak , maybe.

[dragon1965]

@xilawei Good point ! We can think it this way...the tan sao maynot deflect a strong punch (hevery weight boxer).... . so, strong and skill must work togerther.

[jasma98]

@xilawei Even if the kick is strong, if you are skilled enough to catch it at the right angle Tan soa will work. The sifu's angling in this clip is good. It seems to me that some of the people who criticize ( not aimed at you in any way) on you tube show poor judgement. The ability to see or perceive subtle changes in angle and energy are essential to being a good martial artist. Happy new year to all and good luck in your training.

[aminul1984]

@xilawei A kick like the ones shown in this video is only effective if you stand where the power is. If you defend the kick with a tan sao you have to defend it closer, its hard to explain while typing but I hope u understand.

[aminul1984]

@xilawei pause it at 0:43 and look where he is doing the tan sao, that is not where the power is gonna come from the kick.

[9622206]

手看起來好痛啊0.0 都快斷了吧...

[dragon1965]

@9622206 我的腳更痛T-T

[MondoOlografico]

Not Bad... :-)

[asianboycn]

if a short guy attack the big guy, already has disadvantage, if their fighting skills are on the same level of course the tall guys win. if a kids fight with me. I don't need move at all. same theory apply here.

[dmslove]

@asianboycn

it depends on the distance

[f9004306]

若不是有收力，這種踢法硬吃你的手不斷也殘廢

[DaeWixr]

it's always nice to see if ppl are having fun while doing martial art =)

[shavga]

@DaeWixr agree:)

[silentfoxrun]

good stuff! where is this done at???

[dragon1965]

Thankyou! The good thing we demo is learn from Grandmaster Moy Yat at New York city.If you see some bad stuff is from my own idea.

[ffoecaf2006]

為什麼不能反擊？

最好的防守就是進攻阿！

[dragon1965]

可以做到[以攻為守]是很厲害的.如果配合穩固的防守基礎,就可­以攻守同時,正是守中帶攻,攻中有守.應打則打,應守則守,如果­初級者反擊,便練不到防護手法的基礎和技巧.

[dragon1965]

@ffoecaf2006 可以做到[以攻為守]是很厲害的.如果配合穩固的防守基礎,就可­以攻守同時,正是守中帶攻,攻中有守.應打則打,應守則守,如果­初級者反擊,便練不到防護手法的基礎和技巧.

[PS3DLS]

@ffoecaf2006 因為詠春是古代實戰殺人功夫,不是拳賽用的遊戲拳!!

正正因進攻,是會佔用體能的,所以拳賽才會暴打一段短時間,就必­須停止休息,

但古代不會,而且可能次次也是長時間的持久戰...

詠春也因此而演變成以少消耗為主!!(而且,基礎防守做得好,又­有什麼壞處?)

[kurosakilito]

It is a poor strategy to block a round house with your arm dead on. unless you are only training to strengthen your forearms a bit, but do not do it in combat.

[dragon1965]

that's right! it just said it in Chinese.

[sloba111]

It's poor strategy to have a week arms. In traditional styles arms are STRONG. Shushiwa from Pangai noon, later Uechi ryu was well known for breaking his opponents arms and legs with his forearms. But in instant "fighting" sports you can't even imagine that.

[leves555]

good vid!!!!!

[zxcv73]

That's not even how you block kicks, sure maybe a tan would work for high kicks, but what if his kick goes for you hip or lower stomach? You need to quan sau that bitch. But I'm sure you already knew that.

[synkronyk]

@zxcv73 gaan sau and moving in is better than kwan sau.

[ViKiCa92]

@dragon1965

I don't know if you're the guy who filmed this or one of the 2 practitioners, but I have a question. Could a block of a kick like shown in this video also stop a full-force Muay Boran kick as well, or is this for weak kicks only. I'm just asking cause I know in VT hands are being trained to be very pain resistant, but how good does the balance stay?

[dragon1965]

Test to block weak punch frist,then strong one,then weak kick,then strong kick,then look for him to test you.The main purpose is to know how strong you can handle.Everything have its limit.

[chushinryoku]

You CANNOT block kicks like that or a good kicker will break your arm. Watch Cung Le vs Frank Shamrock and you'll understand what I mean. Better to move in and attack the center or the leg they're balancing on.

[HayatoFernandes]

well thats why if u wanna fight / defend urself against a pro martial practioner one must condition his body . My brother learnt sanda and if you didnt condition your arm it gonna hurtlike hell

[kurosakilito]

I was wondering the same thing. However, the answer is no. an arm cannot withstand a full blown roundhouse. The ideal is to defend legs with legs, arms with arms. It appears here they are just demonstrating how to close and keep centerline. But, good ving tsun always moves in at the attacker to close the gap. a wing chun practitioner would come in straight or at an angle, depending on the opponent.

[wingchunartist1]

@ViKiCa92 balance is a very important aspect in VT, and I can assure you that if trained well enough, the balance will not be lost when defending against a kick, in such a way even that a counterattack can be made almost immediatly after the defense.

[moy4you2]

Pardon my spelling !

[moy4you2]

You can all so go forward to hi axis line too.

This will the other pardner of his foot. Harding of the hands one can use the jung.

What ever work you.

[will1506]

I think it's really up to the practitioner. Your Chi Sao contact will tell you whether your single handed tan sao will collaspe or not upon contact and whether the pak sao is necessary. If the kick is coming really strong, there's nothing wrong with taking a step back as your using your tao sao.

[biloxipunk]

i think to block a round kick with wingchun hands should have a tan and pak sao in it

[dragon1965]

with a pak sao together blocking at the same time will be more safe .But this video is testing tao sao only,It doesn't mean this is a Ving Tsun way.

[biloxipunk]

well do what you do. test the structural limits but dont limit your structure

[BboyFooties]

the best way is to stop kick the roundhouse.. or if its too late straight kick the supporting leg.. you should never really block roundhouses with your arms or hands...

[yced101]

what about that first guy aiming for the face instead of aiming for the hands...

[yced101]

that is BULLSHIT!

[dragon1965]

Thankyou for your Bullshit comments!

Not everyone dare Bullshit like this.

[ninjajim2006]

LISTEN GOOD...tan will not block a fully explosive round house kick.....who is your VT instructor? if you are serious look up the basement london...skill at its highest was produced there over 2 decades ago..hope u find what wing chun is really about..or understand what it has to offer.(not what u were doing!) reply to me via mail..

[dragon1965]

thanks for the comment..this is my own examine to know how much force can tan sao handle.If people doesn't have good kung fu foundation do not try it! It is very dangerous!It said in chinese already."fully explosive round house kick"=how much number of force?Our tan sao can handle how much number of force?

[hardyzagain619tim]

tan sao can not block the kick or even heavy punch. I am also vt people. use something else..

[dragon1965]

Depend on both sides skill and level,that is why we need to text to understand myself ability,to know how much I can handle.Not only in tan sao ,should test all of it with safety way. thank you for the comment

[prancelee]

maybe its just you, no offense

[dragon1965]

All of the beginner,If you hit back,it will become fighting or sparring.I want to know how good is you blocking .

[prancelee]

well when they punch or kick really hard you have to support your tan with your Wu or you intercept the kick or punch by changing the direction of your center line

[dragon1965]

A good sifu will not hit too hard to beginner,He should know how to control and use reasonable technique to check students hand. changing the direction of center line to face is o.k

[prancelee]

yea thats true i see alot of "sifus" on here and man there just bombing their students. and jerking them around all over the place. its a loss of face to the sifus that do that .

[bigboobsbl]

wow, the small dude in black fights better being natural than using wing chun!!! I think the small guy should just stick to that good offense, he looks so much more comfortable with his natural ability.

[dragon1965]

The small dude is acting ok,but with out useing sticking hand skill is not easy to break in to VT man,In this text ,the VT beginner is not alow to hit back,no 100% dodge,no move back,only catch to study the technique.

[bigboobsbl]

haha, that tells you why wing chun is useless, it couldn't even deal with a boxer jab. waste of horse shit learning this. I am glad I stopped

[dragon1965]

Even many martial artist say V.T is so good and useful ,but I still believe not every one can fit to learn and use V.T

I wish you can found something fit you better.

Maybe someday I make another action video for art only and not just VT.

[Merdum69]

I'm no MA expert, but I think that if you tried blocking a full-powered thai kick the way you did in your video, you would broke your arm.

[dragon1965]

That's why you have to learn a complete V.T system to understand how to catch punch or kick with skill. It looks like100% hard blocking to most people.but it is not. Look detail to the hands angle.

[moy4you2]

With all due respect ,stand on ceremony is a bad hobbit no matter what game you are playing

[moy4you2]

Please tell me why is he standing there and not moving in ? No! VT would stand on ceremony getting his hands messed up. By occupying his inner gate one would not worry about the hands getting hit.

[dragon1965]

This is only bascie level testing about catching ability and face the attack ,cannot hit back ,cannot move back."Whoever want to step in, only in second level"

[lepoulpefox]

nice job!! ^^

[wingchundummys]

Excellent practical training for Wing Chun. More Schools should implement this type of training. Shows how well Wing Chun can work against a street attack. A+++

[chongleepalao]

That was good =)

[dragon1965]

Thankyou!XD