The bottom line is this. The unions bankrupted GM. To demand that the taxpayers fund the union contract is ridiculous. The government has nothing to do with it. If you union idiots were dumb enough to bankrupt your company , don't demand that people working for a third of what you make bail you out. ASSHOLES!!
The bottom line is this: problem gamblers bankrupted our entire economy. The lack of health care reform & investing the $ made in the 90s, owed to retirees, into overseas production instead (away from U.S. bankruptcy jurisdiction) "bankrupted" GM. The UAW agreed to historic concessions in 2007. Ford is making billion-dollar profits with a labor contract "worse" than GM & Chrys. Let's be more outraged by million $ bonuses for criminals than forced wage discounting for workers, by DC & Wall St.
Don't care. Here's my bottom line. The UAW and the affiliated companies can reach whatever unsustainable agreements they want. When reality catches up , as common sense dictates it will, don't come demanding that the tax payers bail you out. It's your mess , not ours.I couldn't care less if the whole lot of you end up unemployed if you are that stupid. Most of us have sense enough not to pillage the people we work for.
Don't care, huh. Understand this: what is really unsustainable is a country of minimum wage workers - which is exactly where your logic (the corporate agenda) leads. Do you think our economy will ever improve if no body can buy a car, home, college degree, health care, at race-to-the-bottom wages? No. Why do u think so many of us are in debt in the first place!? The working class' wages & benefits have been pillaged by profitable corps for 30 years. That's reality. OUR LABOR CREATES ALL WEALTH.
Why do I feel like I'm arguing with list of talking points? You identify Wall St. as criminals and yet there you stand right beside them at the taxpayer trough demanding that everyone else pay for your own failed business model. I have no sympathy for greedy bankers but in my eyes greedy union members are no better. I have a problem with ALL o the government bailouts.
It may shock you to know that these folks agree with you re: gov bailouts. But they were not about to fall on their swords while Goldman & Co. get rescued w/o repercussion. Due to the gov. loan (not bailout) UAW members were forced into contracts further cutting benefits, work rules, wages & even the right to strike. Meanwhile, no such concessions were even asked of the banks. Their "employees" earn billions in bonuses. The double standard is class based, & these folks r calling 'em on it.
@BonerMaroner I thought using words would be the way to go since I am writing here. Do you have a better suggestion? You are correct in that I do hate the truth of what unions have become. I make a good living being compensated for what I am worth to my employer. Not by joining a gang and extorting a higher wage by threating and being responsible for disruption , harassment and sometimes even physical violence if I don't get my way. The behavior of modern unions is criminal and self defeating.
I cannot believe that Americans are so stupid as to blame workers for receiving a living wage versus the outright THEFT OF AMERICA BY THE BANKSTERS. Bloombergs numbers now have the Bankster Bailout close to 30 TRILLION DOLLARS ! No mention of the robbery by BIG OIL after KATRINA, of whom they still have sky high fuel prices when its sitting offshore in vessels BECAUSE THE STORAGE TANKS ARE FULL ! Utter, and complete madness in our society where the people cannot identify the real criminals
Classy. UAW labor costs (including legacy costs) account for 8% of a vehicle's total production costs. The milking occurs higher up the corporate ladder, your Majesty.
I don't know the details of the specific incidents you are referring to. I do know that the UAW has a proud history of promoting racial equality since its very inception, through Reuther's support of Dr. King, all the way up through being among the first supporters of Pres. Obama. Cherry-picking members of any group and extrapolating their behavior to represent the entire group is as bad as what you are accusing.
WoW! It blow my mind that a UAW retieree talk about how he is going to lose his pension if the bail out is not pass and how he work at GM for 36yrs and that entitle him for the pension. HOLY CRAP! Who the hell going to foot my pension if the company that I work for go under? Where the heck is this entitlement come from? Companies fail all the time. Should American bail out every fail company and keep its workers pension?
i know it's a bit late to reply to this, but the gov. insures pensions. If they destroyed all gm pensions than the gov. would foot the bill. Any uninsured and unemployment checks also are gov. money...which is our money. Living in Georgia I had little to do with the GM issue, but as an educated individual I was for loans, and in retrospect the company is doing far better than expected. I think bankruptcy wasn't necessary, as GM hasn't sold off the parts it promised, but it still is improving.
In texas and other southern states many of the home owners now fly the japanese flags in front of there homes. Stop the bleeding of USA Jobs. Buy Domestic American Made in stores and on line. Dont be like a Judas like many have become to there own country. USA country first!!!
how arrogant of detroit auto workers...you come to OUR home & insult US?? Your lucky they were gracious to give you an audience considering you never even called for an appointment & then you mock ALL Alabamians for YOUR failures??
uaw on this video should have visited bham & got your yankee fat asses kicked back to detroit!!
no shit sherlock..the description clarified washington dc dipshit. detroit uaw WAS here in ALABAMA at the hyuandai gates moron..now you get it? clarification enough for you dumbed down uaw members?
"What is his (Shelbey's) plan for re-industrializing this country?"
Citizens should get these specific questions answered -- & if there IS no plan, Shelbey & those like him, need to get to work, work harder, & longer, more days in session per month, per year, & get the people's work done. And if everyone at the table's gotta work harder & make more concessions, then Shelbey ought to be the first to volunteer to give up his free health care & pay for it himself
billion out!You need to be pissed at the Congressman that voted yes on it!AIG went on
a retreats & big spending sprees.Plus the bail
out companies are still givin execs big bonuses.They have just changed the name on them.Jay Leno said their excuse is they will
leave if they don't give them to them!Leno said yes you want to keep them they are doing such a great job!!What BULL---!How did your senators vote on the $700 billion bailout of Wallstreet??
the difference the chinese gov. tells them what to do!! the us gov. does what we say!! thank GM for supporting socialist!!
shawnerTboner 1 year ago
LMAO! out building sandboxes for 28 bucks an hour.
jester31771 2 years ago
The bottom line is this. The unions bankrupted GM. To demand that the taxpayers fund the union contract is ridiculous. The government has nothing to do with it. If you union idiots were dumb enough to bankrupt your company , don't demand that people working for a third of what you make bail you out. ASSHOLES!!
rstryker27 2 years ago
The bottom line is this: problem gamblers bankrupted our entire economy. The lack of health care reform & investing the $ made in the 90s, owed to retirees, into overseas production instead (away from U.S. bankruptcy jurisdiction) "bankrupted" GM. The UAW agreed to historic concessions in 2007. Ford is making billion-dollar profits with a labor contract "worse" than GM & Chrys. Let's be more outraged by million $ bonuses for criminals than forced wage discounting for workers, by DC & Wall St.
FlintPublic 2 years ago
Don't care. Here's my bottom line. The UAW and the affiliated companies can reach whatever unsustainable agreements they want. When reality catches up , as common sense dictates it will, don't come demanding that the tax payers bail you out. It's your mess , not ours.I couldn't care less if the whole lot of you end up unemployed if you are that stupid. Most of us have sense enough not to pillage the people we work for.
rstryker27 2 years ago
Don't care, huh. Understand this: what is really unsustainable is a country of minimum wage workers - which is exactly where your logic (the corporate agenda) leads. Do you think our economy will ever improve if no body can buy a car, home, college degree, health care, at race-to-the-bottom wages? No. Why do u think so many of us are in debt in the first place!? The working class' wages & benefits have been pillaged by profitable corps for 30 years. That's reality. OUR LABOR CREATES ALL WEALTH.
FlintPublic 2 years ago
Why do I feel like I'm arguing with list of talking points? You identify Wall St. as criminals and yet there you stand right beside them at the taxpayer trough demanding that everyone else pay for your own failed business model. I have no sympathy for greedy bankers but in my eyes greedy union members are no better. I have a problem with ALL o the government bailouts.
rstryker27 2 years ago 4
It may shock you to know that these folks agree with you re: gov bailouts. But they were not about to fall on their swords while Goldman & Co. get rescued w/o repercussion. Due to the gov. loan (not bailout) UAW members were forced into contracts further cutting benefits, work rules, wages & even the right to strike. Meanwhile, no such concessions were even asked of the banks. Their "employees" earn billions in bonuses. The double standard is class based, & these folks r calling 'em on it.
FlintPublic 2 years ago
@rstryker27 Your use of words does not impress the adults nor your hatred for truth.
BonerMaroner 6 months ago
@BonerMaroner I thought using words would be the way to go since I am writing here. Do you have a better suggestion? You are correct in that I do hate the truth of what unions have become. I make a good living being compensated for what I am worth to my employer. Not by joining a gang and extorting a higher wage by threating and being responsible for disruption , harassment and sometimes even physical violence if I don't get my way. The behavior of modern unions is criminal and self defeating.
rstryker27 6 months ago
I cannot believe that Americans are so stupid as to blame workers for receiving a living wage versus the outright THEFT OF AMERICA BY THE BANKSTERS. Bloombergs numbers now have the Bankster Bailout close to 30 TRILLION DOLLARS ! No mention of the robbery by BIG OIL after KATRINA, of whom they still have sky high fuel prices when its sitting offshore in vessels BECAUSE THE STORAGE TANKS ARE FULL ! Utter, and complete madness in our society where the people cannot identify the real criminals
THX1948 2 years ago
Congratulations UAW. You milked Gm until its nothing. Exactly what you were there for. Hopefully you and your families starve to death.
Minionuup 2 years ago
Classy. UAW labor costs (including legacy costs) account for 8% of a vehicle's total production costs. The milking occurs higher up the corporate ladder, your Majesty.
FlintPublic 2 years ago
the city of detroit and the Detroit Public Schools are near bankruptcy
truenorthcorn 2 years ago
Unions are an uncurable cancer for any business.
lchelsoi 2 years ago 2
Take two to bankruptcy court and call me in the aftermath.
FlintPublic 2 years ago
I don't know the details of the specific incidents you are referring to. I do know that the UAW has a proud history of promoting racial equality since its very inception, through Reuther's support of Dr. King, all the way up through being among the first supporters of Pres. Obama. Cherry-picking members of any group and extrapolating their behavior to represent the entire group is as bad as what you are accusing.
FlintPublic 2 years ago
WoW! It blow my mind that a UAW retieree talk about how he is going to lose his pension if the bail out is not pass and how he work at GM for 36yrs and that entitle him for the pension. HOLY CRAP! Who the hell going to foot my pension if the company that I work for go under? Where the heck is this entitlement come from? Companies fail all the time. Should American bail out every fail company and keep its workers pension?
dotnetnoob 2 years ago
i know it's a bit late to reply to this, but the gov. insures pensions. If they destroyed all gm pensions than the gov. would foot the bill. Any uninsured and unemployment checks also are gov. money...which is our money. Living in Georgia I had little to do with the GM issue, but as an educated individual I was for loans, and in retrospect the company is doing far better than expected. I think bankruptcy wasn't necessary, as GM hasn't sold off the parts it promised, but it still is improving.
malevolentgrace 2 years ago
uaw is a failure! why arent their leaders dragged in front of congress or fired for their performance.
whodat121980 2 years ago
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In texas and other southern states many of the home owners now fly the japanese flags in front of there homes. Stop the bleeding of USA Jobs. Buy Domestic American Made in stores and on line. Dont be like a Judas like many have become to there own country. USA country first!!!
bestwayusa1 2 years ago
how arrogant of detroit auto workers...you come to OUR home & insult US?? Your lucky they were gracious to give you an audience considering you never even called for an appointment & then you mock ALL Alabamians for YOUR failures??
uaw on this video should have visited bham & got your yankee fat asses kicked back to detroit!!
hunny1967 3 years ago
Washington D.C. is not in Alabama. Thanks for offering to help unionize workers in Birmingham. Peace & Solidarity!
FlintPublic 3 years ago
I bet Shelby and these 2 guys have national healthcare .
FlintfromOhio 3 years ago
no shit sherlock..the description clarified washington dc dipshit. detroit uaw WAS here in ALABAMA at the hyuandai gates moron..now you get it? clarification enough for you dumbed down uaw members?
hunny1967 3 years ago
Bailout will not help the Big 3, Just like it didn't help the Banks
rlmccullough 3 years ago
Great job UAW!..
misiannalf 3 years ago
GREAT straight-forward question:
"What is his (Shelbey's) plan for re-industrializing this country?"
Citizens should get these specific questions answered -- & if there IS no plan, Shelbey & those like him, need to get to work, work harder, & longer, more days in session per month, per year, & get the people's work done. And if everyone at the table's gotta work harder & make more concessions, then Shelbey ought to be the first to volunteer to give up his free health care & pay for it himself
quicksite 3 years ago
Shelby & Sessions both voted no on the $700
billion out!You need to be pissed at the Congressman that voted yes on it!AIG went on
a retreats & big spending sprees.Plus the bail
out companies are still givin execs big bonuses.They have just changed the name on them.Jay Leno said their excuse is they will
leave if they don't give them to them!Leno said yes you want to keep them they are doing such a great job!!What BULL---!How did your senators vote on the $700 billion bailout of Wallstreet??
ifyourscaredsayur 3 years ago