les attaques ne sont pas franches et ils attaquent en étant complètement ouvert , avec certaine personne ils ce retrouveraient KO avec un coup de point ou finiraient a l'hospital
Effectivement. C'est d'ailleurs ce que fait le défenseur il nous montre comment frapper. Dans cette vidéo, il retient ses coups. Sans les retenir, ses adversaires seraient KO ou pas loin de l'être. C'est comme ca dans pratiquement toutes les vidéos de Taï Dji que j'ai pu voir, on ne voit jamais la "vrai" application, celle qui casse les membres ou les articulations. A chacun de voir ce qu'il y a à voir. :)
J'irai même plus loin dans ton idée : dans toute attaque il y a une ouverture. Si tu n'attaque pas, tu ne risque rien ou pas grand chose. Et puis si ils attaquaient sérieusement en laissant le moins d'ouverture possible, cette vidéo n'existerait pas :D
@ furinkazan33 ça dépend des attaques , si elles sont sychronisées correctement ça peu être difficile de contrôler une personne au sol, on est pas obligé de contrôler une personne on peu la guider et la placer devant l'autre attaquant tout comme dans la video ou l'envoyer en projection sur l'autre adversaire
bonne application , on retrouve les même mouvements dans L'Aïkido et l'Aïkido apprends à ne pas avoir peur du sol et à ce rétablir en chutant et faire toujours face à son partenaire , quand on saisi quelqu'un c'est pour le frapper ou le metre au sol et le contrôler pas juste pour le saisir ça ne rhimerait à Rien
That application just show example how to take people down. In real life...once you touch your enermy...that touch must be deadly. Not just o throw people around like that. One of my masters once says " can't let your enermy continue while you touch him or her...every puch is count b/c you are lossing your energy so not to wast your energy while touching".
@ncigntujyang it's true that you're losing energy, but tai chi is kind of like a no effort "no strength req" fighting form, the energy loss would be far less then the aggressor so throwing an enemy around won't nearly be as tiring. also taichi is about deturance, you break the enemy's arm they won't want to fight anymore. look at the wrist locks used "the attackers drop down because it's just demonstration" in real life their wrists would be damaged. it only takes 1 good hit to deter an enemy
I thing first peng lu is, probably, dangerous to applicate, becouse leaves left enemy's arm free and able to punch if is an able fighter... but all the rest of demonstration is very funny! tankyou.
Great demonstration on Taiji. Very seldom that I see an application dealing with 2 opponents. Looks a little like Akkido except that the master uses one of the opponent as a weapon on the other.
Notice how everybody on Youtube is a expert martial artist or kung fu master just waiting to critique someone's video. If not its some MMA fan saying why doesn't the person in the video do MMA if their style works, as if MMA sparring is the ultimate test. I always thought real experts were humble and not so quick to critique someone other than their own disciples.
Really exceptional!! Finding a handful of Taijiquan masters who excel in the close quarter/tuishou range is difficult enough. But, finding some one who can realistically apply the 108 form in combat is almost impossible. Master Wong (combat tai chi) is another one. These men truly understand their own systems, as well as, other fighters' systems.
..cmq io volevo rispondere a dodo23762, ma non me lo mette sotto il suo commento, bo, scusate lo sfogo il video non è male ma sentire persone che addirittura dicono meraviglioso o cose simili...
ma di che! è bravo ma non è un "maestro" come lo si può intendere nella tradizione cinese, ha ancora moltissimo da imparare, nel primo minuto va abbastanza bene, ma nel secondo dà veramente il peggio, sembra una lotta greco-romana, ma è un wrestler o un praticante di taiji quan??!
il combattimento dovrebbe essere tale pur mantenendo il controllo del taiji, dovrebbe mantenere l'equilibrio, vedetevi i cinesi che fanno bene il taiji qando combattono con + persone non fanno la maratona di NY ma restano relativamente stabili, sono gli avversari, semmai, ad andare in ogni dove..
I liked it! I think you must look at the Spirit of the techniques clygar and that the only one you should be concerned with defeating is yourself Amitoufuo!!
# inoltre, il combattimento, come ogni cosa, se fatta bene, se segue la Via, appare bella, anche alla vista, e qui (specialmente la seconda parte), non mi pare proprio tale
I really enjoyed the randori-like free-response at the end. Personally, I rarely train this fast, because I'm always looking for feeling and think it may get lost in speed, but your body mechanics appear very good for the most part. The only thing I don't like is that you turn your back on opponents now and again. Other than that, I thought the applications were nice.
Stance, schmance...alignment to the ground is what's important, not what angle the feet are at. If this guy can root and get power to and from the ground, he can put his feet anyway he wants.
first of all the stance is not even correct...yang tai chi stresses the 45 degree stance where the two feet are either 45 degrees or 90 degrees apart, the guy got what appears to be a poorly imitated hung gar horse stance, and he has absolutely no alignment with his hip
Great, the 108 traditional Yang form is the one we're studying. It's so difficult to recognize it's practical use, but this video makes it a lot more interesting. It's good to see the stomachpunch in action, this is probably the silliest part in the choreography :)
dude is good!
defiantwon33 4 months ago
les attaques ne sont pas franches et ils attaquent en étant complètement ouvert , avec certaine personne ils ce retrouveraient KO avec un coup de point ou finiraient a l'hospital
KCNARF29 5 months ago
@KCNARF29
Effectivement. C'est d'ailleurs ce que fait le défenseur il nous montre comment frapper. Dans cette vidéo, il retient ses coups. Sans les retenir, ses adversaires seraient KO ou pas loin de l'être. C'est comme ca dans pratiquement toutes les vidéos de Taï Dji que j'ai pu voir, on ne voit jamais la "vrai" application, celle qui casse les membres ou les articulations. A chacun de voir ce qu'il y a à voir. :)
Merci pour cet échange.
furinkazan33 4 months ago
@KCNARF29
J'irai même plus loin dans ton idée : dans toute attaque il y a une ouverture. Si tu n'attaque pas, tu ne risque rien ou pas grand chose. Et puis si ils attaquaient sérieusement en laissant le moins d'ouverture possible, cette vidéo n'existerait pas :D
furinkazan33 4 months ago
@ furinkazan33 ça dépend des attaques , si elles sont sychronisées correctement ça peu être difficile de contrôler une personne au sol, on est pas obligé de contrôler une personne on peu la guider et la placer devant l'autre attaquant tout comme dans la video ou l'envoyer en projection sur l'autre adversaire
KCNARF29 5 months ago
Merci, sifu.
lebarosky 5 months ago
most practical iv seen in a long time
Theninja80291 6 months ago
bonne application , on retrouve les même mouvements dans L'Aïkido et l'Aïkido apprends à ne pas avoir peur du sol et à ce rétablir en chutant et faire toujours face à son partenaire , quand on saisi quelqu'un c'est pour le frapper ou le metre au sol et le contrôler pas juste pour le saisir ça ne rhimerait à Rien
KCNARF29 7 months ago
@KCNARF29
Tu as bien appris ta leçon, c'est bien. Mais comment est-ce-que tu fais pour contrôler un adversaire au sol lorsque 2 personnes t'attaquent ?
furinkazan33 5 months ago
algnas parecen de wing chun
skinssin 7 months ago
damn iwant to learn those throws...but it just looks like it needs to be perfect timeing to pull of
XLRO8 7 months ago
@XLRO8 Nah san shou is a close to real fighting as you can get. So his timing is going to be a little off because it's not cherographed.
Ryooken 7 months ago
@XLRO8 you will learn that no matter what style, timing eventually becomes the critical factor in a fight
e2bit 7 months ago
super taiji demonstration
2peetr 8 months ago
WOW!
MrUnknow28 9 months ago
AManAnd88Keys. You have a valid point.
gemall95 9 months ago
I really like this one. Aside from the movies about Tai Chi. This demonstration is pretty good. Short yet good. I'll be looking for more.
Thank You !
gemall95 9 months ago
gooooooooooooooooooooooooooodaxsz
TheAbk187 1 year ago
That application just show example how to take people down. In real life...once you touch your enermy...that touch must be deadly. Not just o throw people around like that. One of my masters once says " can't let your enermy continue while you touch him or her...every puch is count b/c you are lossing your energy so not to wast your energy while touching".
ncigntujyang 1 year ago
@ncigntujyang it's true that you're losing energy, but tai chi is kind of like a no effort "no strength req" fighting form, the energy loss would be far less then the aggressor so throwing an enemy around won't nearly be as tiring. also taichi is about deturance, you break the enemy's arm they won't want to fight anymore. look at the wrist locks used "the attackers drop down because it's just demonstration" in real life their wrists would be damaged. it only takes 1 good hit to deter an enemy
oosuchin 11 months ago
As soon as things get fast, his shoulders and neck seem quite tensed. Maybe he wasn't feeling that comfortable?
AManAnd88Keys 1 year ago
you're demonstrations are brilliant
KhiahLouise 1 year ago
Great use of inside circles.
physicsmathandtaichi 1 year ago
เทพมากๆ
tajjhalee 1 year ago
I'm starting to learn wujiquan,It's nice to see real art's,How the body just flow's......FANTASTIC.
rs76ls73 1 year ago
tre bon!
8stepsifu 1 year ago
hes pretty good
jaygmui 1 year ago
very good! I don't say that too often about youtube taiji people, but this fellow is quite good.
monczkam 1 year ago
Great demonstrations, merci!
ewmeiss 1 year ago
he just use less energy to counter attack....amazing
jaksapendamai 1 year ago 2
Is this chang dzu yao form?
I thing first peng lu is, probably, dangerous to applicate, becouse leaves left enemy's arm free and able to punch if is an able fighter... but all the rest of demonstration is very funny! tankyou.
sorry my not correct english
pisino86 1 year ago
Belle application pratique du tai ji quan, mon professeur de tai ji quan (style yang) est un ancien enseigant d'arts martiaux externes.
Le tai ji quan (et le qi gong )pour l'ancien médiocre karatéka shotokan que je suis est un excellente évolution, surtout après quarante ans.
Very nice applications of tjq in real life. Thank you for the video.
teddythefrency 1 year ago
Great demonstration on Taiji. Very seldom that I see an application dealing with 2 opponents. Looks a little like Akkido except that the master uses one of the opponent as a weapon on the other.
denzuko1 1 year ago
this sifu seems well rooted and exhibits great balance and accuracy in his movements. extremely valuable.
lebarosky 2 years ago
Notice how everybody on Youtube is a expert martial artist or kung fu master just waiting to critique someone's video. If not its some MMA fan saying why doesn't the person in the video do MMA if their style works, as if MMA sparring is the ultimate test. I always thought real experts were humble and not so quick to critique someone other than their own disciples.
abshalom7 2 years ago
@abshalom7 Great comment. I'm getting really sick of people acting like MMA is the pinnacle of martial arts. It's not; it's a sport.
ZhuangziZhou 1 year ago
@ZhuangziZhou and a piss poor sport at that.
hoghead89 1 year ago
There are so many error its not even funny
Scaura 2 years ago
a little unreal but marks for trying.
TheZhongzheng 2 years ago
why pretend that you are soft when you are not?
Cutedervish 2 years ago
if what happen is one of them is holding a weapon ??? stick or knife ?
sleepdevil123 2 years ago
that last part was defenetly not choreographed
lucdanielaubut 2 years ago
HOLY SHIT!!!
jfuya2000 2 years ago
well done i must said that ..
simazhongda 2 years ago
Really exceptional!! Finding a handful of Taijiquan masters who excel in the close quarter/tuishou range is difficult enough. But, finding some one who can realistically apply the 108 form in combat is almost impossible. Master Wong (combat tai chi) is another one. These men truly understand their own systems, as well as, other fighters' systems.
wt333wt 2 years ago
ain't nuthin' like a good choreographed fight scene, sheesh
TaiChiTex 2 years ago
Actually, it might be lol. Sorry lol.
jfuya2000 2 years ago
..cmq io volevo rispondere a dodo23762, ma non me lo mette sotto il suo commento, bo, scusate lo sfogo il video non è male ma sentire persone che addirittura dicono meraviglioso o cose simili...
FFF85 2 years ago
ma di che! è bravo ma non è un "maestro" come lo si può intendere nella tradizione cinese, ha ancora moltissimo da imparare, nel primo minuto va abbastanza bene, ma nel secondo dà veramente il peggio, sembra una lotta greco-romana, ma è un wrestler o un praticante di taiji quan??!
FFF85 2 years ago
il combattimento dovrebbe essere tale pur mantenendo il controllo del taiji, dovrebbe mantenere l'equilibrio, vedetevi i cinesi che fanno bene il taiji qando combattono con + persone non fanno la maratona di NY ma restano relativamente stabili, sono gli avversari, semmai, ad andare in ogni dove..
FFF85 2 years ago
Another beginner's comment... GJC
clygar 3 years ago
P.S. A great practitioner's movements are smaller, more compressed, thicker, and will "take up the slack" in his fluffy, elongated applications. GJC
clygar 3 years ago
I liked it! I think you must look at the Spirit of the techniques clygar and that the only one you should be concerned with defeating is yourself Amitoufuo!!
TaiQiDao 3 years ago 2
This would ONLY work on a beginner who cooperates. Try it on me. Gary J. Clyman, Chicago!
clygar 3 years ago
Tres bien! Merci!
fredocorleone47 3 years ago
mervelleux!
hptluan 3 years ago
good.
qigong69 3 years ago
He's kicking it Seagal style.
mombasaha 3 years ago
Françuskis:::
very good indeed!! très bient jouex!!!
muito bacana!!!
Du Brésil, avec les meilleurs felicitaciones Bresilienes
igleb 3 years ago
ben fatto!
dodo23762 3 years ago
Comment removed
FFF85 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
# inoltre, il combattimento, come ogni cosa, se fatta bene, se segue la Via, appare bella, anche alla vista, e qui (specialmente la seconda parte), non mi pare proprio tale
FFF85 2 years ago
are you guys crazy? This man rocks! Could you do even a half of what he does here???..
Good master.
NonEvernoThing 3 years ago
I really enjoyed the randori-like free-response at the end. Personally, I rarely train this fast, because I'm always looking for feeling and think it may get lost in speed, but your body mechanics appear very good for the most part. The only thing I don't like is that you turn your back on opponents now and again. Other than that, I thought the applications were nice.
ColumbusTaiChi 3 years ago
Stance, schmance...alignment to the ground is what's important, not what angle the feet are at. If this guy can root and get power to and from the ground, he can put his feet anyway he wants.
taoistbob 3 years ago
first of all the stance is not even correct...yang tai chi stresses the 45 degree stance where the two feet are either 45 degrees or 90 degrees apart, the guy got what appears to be a poorly imitated hung gar horse stance, and he has absolutely no alignment with his hip
dragon877 3 years ago
Great, the 108 traditional Yang form is the one we're studying. It's so difficult to recognize it's practical use, but this video makes it a lot more interesting. It's good to see the stomachpunch in action, this is probably the silliest part in the choreography :)
Merci.
barendts 3 years ago
Great video!
mrmrmanhuman 3 years ago
this is very poor demo. It make tai chi looked bad!
skylady625 4 years ago