But then, with respect, this all happens at the decline of a civilization. So, I'm not actually "surprised" but simply "amused" by the duality of Yoda's sage-like wisdom.
For those wondering why the DS1 took 20 years while the DS2 took 4, remember that early on there was all the political maneuvering, the gathering of materials, basically all the crappy red tape to go through. On top of that there was sabotage, constant relocation of the DS1 skeleton, and the Star Wars tech just wasn't that up to date at the time.
For the DS2, Palpatine didn't stand for all that bullshit.
@nepomusik I think the second Death Star took less than a year to build. Checked the Starwars.com database and it said that the construction of the second Death Star begun 3 years after battle of Yavin, and the battle of Endor was 4 years after battle of Yavin. Plus i've heard that according to the Shadows of the Empire novel around 60% of it was completed in 6 months.
wow, i bet wayne pygram was like "after all those hours of extensive prosthetic make ups to make me look like cushing, i only have 20 seconds of screen time."
it's kinda funny, it took 18 years to build the death star and less than 4 years to build another one
@hunterkiller1440 Well the first one had to be built by the separatists who didn't have as much as the empire did, both in resources and financially. Plus they were fighting a superior military and even though the Death Star could have been used to win the war Palpatine never planned on letting the separatists succeed.
Hayden Christensen is the actor who plays Darth Vader this time wearing the costume & NOT David Prowse. The voice is still James Earl Jones for the voice of vader in Revenge Of The Sith.
You know the new series is bad when indeed the most badass thing about it is Vader crossing his arms. George Lucas, you never should have made them to begin with.
they could have let Hayden try More to prove himself as Vader. Try,... I mean the stuff in this movie could have been just half of the movie the rest with vader's dealings.
Yeah I remember reading how when Vader first started out, the Death Star staff looked up at him in something like curiosity. At a certain point, they would find out that Vader was one to be feared.
@BitChronic Wayne Pygram. Although I heard he already looked similar. Interesting that the production had him wear a mask for this scene, given Tarkin is meant to be 20 years younger here.
Darth Vader: So you gonna teach me that bringing people back to life trick you were telling me about, after all that's why I joined the dark side in the first place.
must have had cowboy builders i mean it took 20 odd years to build and then gets blown up with one small fighter bomb while the secound death star was what half way built in two years?
@Iffy350 Ummm... not to put too fine a point on it, but before they started training non-clones, stormtroopers could apparently AIM. And kill Jedi. Now, just to put this in perspective: Anakin could not possibly have killed all the Jedi in the temple himself. So the clones must have done a lot of it. Stormtroopers AFTER the clones were discontinued were unable to kill an untrained farmboy and a princess in their own space station. Now rethink your comment.
@Iffy350 Sorry, I had the misfortune of trying to comment on something YOU commented on a year ago. But way to go on just sticking every single 'shock' word you know into a single comment. And 'dweeb'? Seriously? I would have gone with "deformed Koala fucker" myself.
@TheZacula: Its called character armor dumbass. The protagonist can't be killed by stormtrooper fire but everyone else can. The only reason the clones killed the jedi so easily is because they were non essential minor characters with little or no importance or value. They could have sent more than two clones to kill yoda but then character armor comes into play so they send two inept clones. They could have bombed the hut yoda was observing the battle from if they really wanted him dead.
None so far, but I'd be extremely surprised if he doesn't make an appearance before the series ends. I mean, they're featuring Yularen of all people (barely noticable background Imperial from Ep 4) as a recurring character.
If you actually thought of it Vader was quite young when he gets put into the suit...I mean techincally this scene is only like a couple days after he was burned on mustafar.
im constructing my own death star on sandbox on halo 3 and i need more people to help me make it. I already have some of the laser done and the middle trench and some of the outer walls but the progress is coming along to slow so if your interested give StuntedSnail a friend request on live and i did a reinactment of this seen with my death star and mine and this one look identical lol btw that scene is so epic.
Lmao, I noticed that too. Tarkin approached Sidious and Vader. Sidious was staring at the death star and Vader gave Tarkin "The look". Tarkin was nervous and walked out on them. "Freaks.."
@TheWorstWarlock he might be also llike "Okey so i guess you guys are having a mind to mind force chat, so im going over there quietly. Call me when Leia is older."
@MTERM775 i think that was done on purpose. the Old Republic was a brighter, more glorious, happier time, when the Jedi were at the peak of their power. So everything looks and feels brighter. As the prequels go on, they get progressively darker as the seeds of the Empire take shape. Golden hues fade to cooler silver ones, eventually you get this scene, recapturing the stark atmosphere of the Empire in the Original Trilogy.
@MTERM775 I think it's because the prequels are set in better off parts of the galaxy (coruscant, naboo, etc) while the original trilogy was set in the more backwater parts of the galaxy (tatooine, hoth, endor, etc).
@randomvideoproducer Once the Empire was declared stuff didn't come like it used to. It all got a lot dirtier and stuff. You know what I'm getting at...
See, I look at it differently. During the prequels the galaxy was a "slightly" happier place, to really imply that things were different during the days of the Republic and the Jedi, with a more fluid feel.
When we get to the originals, it's at least two decades into the Empire and the rule of the Sith; everything looks way more run down, there's more of an industrial feel to it.
@MTERM775 That, and for some reason they're in the past but they have BETTER technology than in the original films. The only scientific advance was the Death Star. Same with the Old Republic series. THOUSANDS of years before the orignal trilogy, and yet the only advances made in that time have been smaller droids. That's seriously it.
I take liberty with that when I'm thinking about the series. The Empire, put an "Vader-clad" stranglehold on advancements throughout the galaxy, especially those made in technology, as to prevent an uprising made with superior arms within any system. With the constant threat of destruction, and distrust of your neighbours; the reporting of "rebels and traitors" became a viable action.
I don't know if that reasoning is going to help you enjoy the fiction any more. But, it does enough for me :)
@TheZacula Haha, that too my good man. On point about what was "missing" from the prequels. The Jedi weren't anything like the kind of "heroes of the light" the older fans were lead to fantasize about. The quote that cements this for me is from Yoda to Mace Windu:
Windu: I think it is time we inform the senate that our ability to use the force has diminished.
Yoda: Only a Dark Lord of the Sith knows of our weakness. If informed the senate is, multiply our adversaries will.
@MJCrest You know what else was missing? A Han Solo-like character. Somebody who WASN'T a Jedi, didn't take most of this crap seriously, was a wisecracker, but was still actually badass. That's something missing nowadays, wisecracking badass. It seems that the comedic relief roles seem to get passed to otherwise useless characters, whereas Han was comedic relief AND a badass pilot/gunfighter. Just saying, that would have helped a lot.
@TheZacula Quote for truth. I laughed when I read Iffy's comment. Making complaint about the historical plot- only to defend apparent plot devices written by the same team. Glad to see there is still room for imagination in some fan's minds, then again, maybe not- we are C* sucking lunatics after all ;)
I like the sadly melody of "The Force"at 0:04--0:08. the force theme in this scene gives the feeling Anakin is actually in the suit. In Return of the Jedi we knew Anakin was in the suit...but didnt know the actual Anakin charcter well enough...so the emotinal feeling is not the same as it is in this patculair scene.
In this scene at the end is Hayden Christensen as the Darth Vader character in this film instead of David Prowse & and McDiarmid standing next to each other in this video clip.
@316gokuful No they weren't related, however I heard that they digitally manipulated the image for this scene. They took Peter Cushing's (Tarkin) face from the 1977 film and digitally placed over the face of the actor for ROTS. Since the current actor supposedly didn't look like Cushing, they had to do this to avoid discrepancies. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this.
i believe you're right, and it makes sense they did the same thing in Terminator: Salvation with 1984 schwarzanager putting his face on the new developed T-101, thanks for the info, i understand clearly now :)
@316gokuful "The old dude" was screen legend and Hammer Horror icon Peter Cushing. Apparantly he was a top dude in real life, a really nice guy, which is ironic given how good he was at playing utter bastards, lol.
@316gokuful "The old dude" was screen legend and Hammer Horror icon Peter Cushing. Apparantly he was a top dude in real life, a really nice guy, which is ironic given how good he was at playing utter bastards, lol. They weren't reated though....
That actually was not the death star in that scene. That was the prototype for the death star. just the weapon itself, the frame, and a power source. It was built first to test it. The death star came years later. That is of course unless one thinks that it takes 20+ years to build a station.....
I would like to believe it wouldnt take a power like the empire 20 years to build a station but George Lucas said it did. But however something the size of the death star, its believable especially for a first try
For the second, they knew what they had to do and had everything prepaired, and the emperor made it a rush job
i agree, im pretty sure this is the same death star from episode 4. i just dont get where ppl r getting that it takes 20+ years to make? I dont remember hearing anywhere in a new hope that the death star was brand new. It couldve taken like 10 years or so and then it was operational for the remainder of the time period between episode 3 and 4, hence why it was so important for the rebels to destroy it.
These reason why it took the first Death Star over 20 years to build it was it often attacked and heavily damaged by Rebels, while it was under construction. Also the death Star was often moved to different locations, to maintain secretcy untill it was moved to the Maw. Also Death Star was extremely expensive, that funding was limited. Therefore the work on the first death Star was not continous. The second was succesfully hidden untill episode just prior to Endor
I loved this scene in the movie. Just a question to the die hard fans. What possessed Vader to continue on? As He turned to the Dark Side for Padme, and she died.
it's funny, the first Death Star took like 18 years, give or take to make. The second Death Star which is even bigger took 3 years. Yes, i know it's not completed but probably in a year or two it would've been. Just a thought......
They tripled the amount of workers in the actual station working, They improved technology and in the end the workers started dying from the lack of rest and food.
So I understand that the clones were made on Kamino, but then where did the Republic suddenly get all the battlecruisers (proto-star destroyers)? Kamino didn't have any shipyards, and the Republic didn't have those ships previously to the Clone Wars.
Well the bulk of the Republic ships were build by the Kaut shipyards like the infamous Ventor class as shown in this clip. But the Acclamator-class assault ship wich was the back bone of the Republic wich was produced by alsmost every Republic shipyard there was. These ships were produced in there tens of thousand and many of them stil saw service after the Republic and Empire were long gone. Also some Victory-class Star Destroyers and Star Destroyers MK1 saw action during the clone wars
Crossing his arms is no big deal to me. It just implies that Vader is content/satisfied, which would be unrealistic considering he just lost Padme and had Obi-Wan turn on him. Vader was never the "content" type of Sith.
The worst is that in the film about birth of the empire there is no imperial march acsept this short scene, even in scene of empire proclamation where it would be most sutable they gave some tragic theme dham political corection.
he is suppost to be like that. he is so filled with grief that the suit is like a jail, add insult to injury . then he overcomes this grief and he walks tall and is the vader from the oringinal trilogy
I imagine they would've been gradually withdrawn as newer classes (Imperials/Victory's/etc.) came into service, during the OT period they were probably mostly in reserve fleets.
Well you have to think that he's young here and over time as his body grew even older he had to have alterations made to the suit and life support system as he needed a bigger, better one to support his ailing life later on in his old age.
What I don't get is, it takes em about 20 years to make the 1st one, and then only about 3 to make an even bigger 2nd one. I bet the Emperor had trouble with the builders
I think the second Death Star was started shortly after the first one but still, even with rapid prototyping machines and worker droids going at it full time it still would take the Empire a long while to make something the size of a small planet!
I still think the smart way to go would have been to continue to beef up their navy and NOT get rid of their ARC troopers!
according to the george lucas comentary, he mentioned that they had supply/ resource problems and it had slowed them down in the construction for several years.
Yeah. Too bad Pete died. It would've been awesome if he made the appearance as Tarkin. Don't get me wrong though, Pygram did a great job in this scene.
No, this was a huge mistake. He shouldn't have done that. The only explanation I can find is that Vader isn't used to his suit, so he hasn't realized yet that folding his arms isn't really comfortable, due to his breast plate (or whatever you call it).
yeah, the arms cross was like the cherry on a steaming pile of poo. I just saw the footage of Prowse yelling Vader's lines through the costume. Now that guy was acting!
But then, with respect, this all happens at the decline of a civilization. So, I'm not actually "surprised" but simply "amused" by the duality of Yoda's sage-like wisdom.
MJCrest 5 months ago
Who would have guessed the death star was going to be blown up by a bunch of fucking teenagers! lol
moonsugar1 5 months ago 2
I noticed that all of the best scenes in the move lack dialogue.
RazzleDazzle2340 5 months ago
dam i like color of those venators,much better then old republic style
Zagoreni02A 6 months ago
anyone know the music answer
SuperAssman32 6 months ago
Emperor said get the eff out of here to Tarkin :(
venomoususus 6 months ago
the sound is a couple pitches higher than the original o.0
MiyazakiKnight 7 months ago
For those wondering why the DS1 took 20 years while the DS2 took 4, remember that early on there was all the political maneuvering, the gathering of materials, basically all the crappy red tape to go through. On top of that there was sabotage, constant relocation of the DS1 skeleton, and the Star Wars tech just wasn't that up to date at the time.
For the DS2, Palpatine didn't stand for all that bullshit.
nepomusik 8 months ago
@nepomusik I think the second Death Star took less than a year to build. Checked the Starwars.com database and it said that the construction of the second Death Star begun 3 years after battle of Yavin, and the battle of Endor was 4 years after battle of Yavin. Plus i've heard that according to the Shadows of the Empire novel around 60% of it was completed in 6 months.
onlypeaceindeath 7 months ago
What is the music in this... towards the end? It's not on the soundtrack...
bearwarlock 9 months ago
wow, i bet wayne pygram was like "after all those hours of extensive prosthetic make ups to make me look like cushing, i only have 20 seconds of screen time."
it's kinda funny, it took 18 years to build the death star and less than 4 years to build another one
hunterkiller1440 9 months ago
@hunterkiller1440 Well the first one had to be built by the separatists who didn't have as much as the empire did, both in resources and financially. Plus they were fighting a superior military and even though the Death Star could have been used to win the war Palpatine never planned on letting the separatists succeed.
SonOfCallaugh 8 months ago
anyone know the name of the music at :11?
acstas87 9 months ago
that guy is suposed to be Tarkin :O
i never recognized this before, but now i know its quite obvious...
Hagelnot 9 months ago
Hayden Christensen is the actor who plays Darth Vader this time wearing the costume & NOT David Prowse. The voice is still James Earl Jones for the voice of vader in Revenge Of The Sith.
Concertchoir76 9 months ago
Problems of wearing a badass suit and a mask:
Vader is thinking: "Hey, Tarkin's never seen me with my new indentity and this suit, I think I should introduce myself..."
(Looks at Tarkin)
Tarkin: "He's looking at me, better to leave before he... does something evil..."
Vader: "Ok then..."
theonewhowasonce 10 months ago 7
You know the new series is bad when indeed the most badass thing about it is Vader crossing his arms. George Lucas, you never should have made them to begin with.
br00tul 11 months ago
What's the name of this particular score playing? I love how sorrowful it sounds with the imperial march.
ss3kid 11 months ago
@ss3kid The score is Padme's destiny I believe, just towards the end where the music begins to get really evil and climatic and AWSUM
tarkinfish 5 months ago
Grand Moff Tarkin is a legend.
NottinghamForest22 11 months ago
they could have let Hayden try More to prove himself as Vader. Try,... I mean the stuff in this movie could have been just half of the movie the rest with vader's dealings.
thecopykidofthestarz 1 year ago
Ah, the old TIE sound, Vader walking across the bridge, the bridge staff looking up at Vader, just like old times.
nepomusik 1 year ago 6
@nepomusik Except here they don't look up in abject terror. They will. There's a reason promotions are viewed with horror in the Imperial Navy.
TheZacula 5 months ago
@TheZacula
Yeah I remember reading how when Vader first started out, the Death Star staff looked up at him in something like curiosity. At a certain point, they would find out that Vader was one to be feared.
nepomusik 5 months ago
this is the only good part of this movie!
stndrds79 1 year ago
i hope darth vader chocked who ever hired the builders for DS1 since it took 20 years and the secound one was mostly finished in like one year
sword4005 1 year ago
is fake Peter Cushing CG or a guy with a mask?
BitChronic 1 year ago
@BitChronic guy in a mask if yur intrested its actually the guy who plays scorpio from farscape
sword4005 1 year ago
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@BitChronic guy in a mask if your intrested its actually the guy who plays scorpio from farscape
sword4005 1 year ago
@BitChronic Wayne Pygram. Although I heard he already looked similar. Interesting that the production had him wear a mask for this scene, given Tarkin is meant to be 20 years younger here.
darthbandon10 1 year ago
@BitChronic A bit of both; he was added in with CGI technology and a guy to base that off of.
incinerator327 7 months ago
@sewerratie its half the price not twice the price
haffyhefe 1 year ago
Man, the first Death Star took over 20 years or something and the second was almost done in about 4! The Empire can book it when they try to.
TukaihaHithlec 1 year ago
Love this scene.
The 3 people who disliked this must be trekkies....
Totaly14 1 year ago 7
Darth Vader: So you gonna teach me that bringing people back to life trick you were telling me about, after all that's why I joined the dark side in the first place.
Palpatine: Meh maybe later.
EchoBoomer1987 1 year ago 12
Is the guy playing Tarkin the one who played Scorpius in Farscape.
georgeowain 1 year ago
@georgeowain yes
sword4005 1 year ago
are all the officers clones? other than Tarkin.
thegiantpigeon 1 year ago
@thegiantpigeon could be
whitemanstand72 1 year ago
3 ppl missed...
incinerator327 1 year ago
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What is this song called anyway?
incinerator327 1 year ago
2 things
A. This is the PROTOTYPE Death Star.
B. Did you consider that some of the men may be clones without their armor?
incinerator327 1 year ago
I wonder if they deliberatly got a Peter Cushing lookalike for that bit.
xeractus 1 year ago
@xeractus That was the fuy who played Scorpius in Farscape with prosthetics on his face.
robwett 1 year ago
"First rule of government spending.... Why build one when you can build two at twice the price!"
SewerRatie 1 year ago
@SewerRatie oh come on, that was from contact w/ jodie foster
fridun007 1 year ago
@SewerRatie
or just spend double on one
incinerator327 1 year ago
must have had cowboy builders i mean it took 20 odd years to build and then gets blown up with one small fighter bomb while the secound death star was what half way built in two years?
sword4005 1 year ago
@sword4005 They was commenced building at the same time.
miltonluvsno1 1 year ago
@miltonluvsno1 nope go to wiki or the starwars wiki its tell you it was started after battle yavin
sword4005 1 year ago
Venator Class Republic Star Destroyers... MEH.
Mikey7889 1 year ago
@Mikey7889 I kinda like them personally.
TheZacula 5 months ago
Episode III should have ended with this scene. It would have been so epic!!!!
Apophis150 1 year ago
That guy standing next to vader and sidious. Why thats Governor Tarkin, well young version that is.
stevenskywalker1993 1 year ago
i like how john williams remastered the imperial march theme in this episode, is it available on itunes?
senorbusyman 1 year ago
the music is very tragic, why they dont includes this ost in the sound track??
alberto1616 1 year ago
Damn Tarkin is the man!
Herkko94 1 year ago
no clones working their why?
Iamdanielg 1 year ago
@Iamdanielg: Clones suck; many humans trained at the imperial academy. None of the new officers were clones.
Iffy350 1 year ago
@Iffy350 Ummm... not to put too fine a point on it, but before they started training non-clones, stormtroopers could apparently AIM. And kill Jedi. Now, just to put this in perspective: Anakin could not possibly have killed all the Jedi in the temple himself. So the clones must have done a lot of it. Stormtroopers AFTER the clones were discontinued were unable to kill an untrained farmboy and a princess in their own space station. Now rethink your comment.
TheZacula 5 months ago
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Iffy350 5 months ago
@Iffy350 Sorry, I had the misfortune of trying to comment on something YOU commented on a year ago. But way to go on just sticking every single 'shock' word you know into a single comment. And 'dweeb'? Seriously? I would have gone with "deformed Koala fucker" myself.
TheZacula 5 months ago
@TheZacula: Its called character armor dumbass. The protagonist can't be killed by stormtrooper fire but everyone else can. The only reason the clones killed the jedi so easily is because they were non essential minor characters with little or no importance or value. They could have sent more than two clones to kill yoda but then character armor comes into play so they send two inept clones. They could have bombed the hut yoda was observing the battle from if they really wanted him dead.
Iffy350 5 months ago
@Iffy350 By the way, sorry about getting snippy at you.
TheZacula 5 months ago
Tarkin leaves the scene with haste like a friend does when you want to be "Close" with your G.f
philquinton 1 year ago 5
Is there any news/spoilers as to whether Tarkin will appear in The Clone Wars?
Surax 1 year ago
@Surax
None so far, but I'd be extremely surprised if he doesn't make an appearance before the series ends. I mean, they're featuring Yularen of all people (barely noticable background Imperial from Ep 4) as a recurring character.
DarkWizard83 1 year ago
If you actually thought of it Vader was quite young when he gets put into the suit...I mean techincally this scene is only like a couple days after he was burned on mustafar.
jurassicraptor111 1 year ago
im constructing my own death star on sandbox on halo 3 and i need more people to help me make it. I already have some of the laser done and the middle trench and some of the outer walls but the progress is coming along to slow so if your interested give StuntedSnail a friend request on live and i did a reinactment of this seen with my death star and mine and this one look identical lol btw that scene is so epic.
StuntedSnail 1 year ago
This scene always gives me the chills. It's that sad dramatic music with the Imperial march in it that does it. It's just awesome.
vassatiny 2 years ago 3
Tarkin is all like "You won't let me in your little club? Well fuck you guys, I'm going for a beer".
TheWorstWarlock 2 years ago 62
Lmao, I noticed that too. Tarkin approached Sidious and Vader. Sidious was staring at the death star and Vader gave Tarkin "The look". Tarkin was nervous and walked out on them. "Freaks.."
CPenha 2 years ago 3
@TheWorstWarlock he might be also llike "Okey so i guess you guys are having a mind to mind force chat, so im going over there quietly. Call me when Leia is older."
foodbug 1 year ago 6
@foodbug
LOL
I wish that was said in the movie
good one !
whitemanstand72 1 year ago
Suddenly, ancient 1970s control panels!
MadPutz 2 years ago 9
Definitly. episode 1, 2 and 3 all had futuristic high tech looking buttons. Then at the end of Revenge of the Sith - Retro buttons!
I think that is what was missing in the prequel. Everything just looked too clean and not retro enough. It really had lost its star wars feel.
MTERM775 2 years ago 42
@MTERM775 That's an Imperial Venator Class. It's still Star Wars, just pro imperial. And the Empire is always mostly clean.
GamerztimeX20 1 year ago
@GamerztimeX20 Oh, I'm such a nerd! Lol
GamerztimeX20 1 year ago
@MTERM775 i think that was done on purpose. the Old Republic was a brighter, more glorious, happier time, when the Jedi were at the peak of their power. So everything looks and feels brighter. As the prequels go on, they get progressively darker as the seeds of the Empire take shape. Golden hues fade to cooler silver ones, eventually you get this scene, recapturing the stark atmosphere of the Empire in the Original Trilogy.
NinjaxPrime 1 year ago 2
@MTERM775 I think it's because the prequels are set in better off parts of the galaxy (coruscant, naboo, etc) while the original trilogy was set in the more backwater parts of the galaxy (tatooine, hoth, endor, etc).
randomvideoproducer 1 year ago 2
@randomvideoproducer Once the Empire was declared stuff didn't come like it used to. It all got a lot dirtier and stuff. You know what I'm getting at...
TukaihaHithlec 1 year ago
@MTERM775
See, I look at it differently. During the prequels the galaxy was a "slightly" happier place, to really imply that things were different during the days of the Republic and the Jedi, with a more fluid feel.
When we get to the originals, it's at least two decades into the Empire and the rule of the Sith; everything looks way more run down, there's more of an industrial feel to it.
nepomusik 8 months ago
@MTERM775 That, and for some reason they're in the past but they have BETTER technology than in the original films. The only scientific advance was the Death Star. Same with the Old Republic series. THOUSANDS of years before the orignal trilogy, and yet the only advances made in that time have been smaller droids. That's seriously it.
TheZacula 5 months ago
I take liberty with that when I'm thinking about the series. The Empire, put an "Vader-clad" stranglehold on advancements throughout the galaxy, especially those made in technology, as to prevent an uprising made with superior arms within any system. With the constant threat of destruction, and distrust of your neighbours; the reporting of "rebels and traitors" became a viable action.
I don't know if that reasoning is going to help you enjoy the fiction any more. But, it does enough for me :)
MJCrest 5 months ago
@MJCrest I just like to think that it's a much, MUCH more static society.
TheZacula 5 months ago
@TheZacula Haha, that too my good man. On point about what was "missing" from the prequels. The Jedi weren't anything like the kind of "heroes of the light" the older fans were lead to fantasize about. The quote that cements this for me is from Yoda to Mace Windu:
Windu: I think it is time we inform the senate that our ability to use the force has diminished.
Yoda: Only a Dark Lord of the Sith knows of our weakness. If informed the senate is, multiply our adversaries will.
Yoda FEARS the Sith.
MJCrest 5 months ago
@MJCrest You know what else was missing? A Han Solo-like character. Somebody who WASN'T a Jedi, didn't take most of this crap seriously, was a wisecracker, but was still actually badass. That's something missing nowadays, wisecracking badass. It seems that the comedic relief roles seem to get passed to otherwise useless characters, whereas Han was comedic relief AND a badass pilot/gunfighter. Just saying, that would have helped a lot.
TheZacula 5 months ago
@TheZacula Quote for truth. I laughed when I read Iffy's comment. Making complaint about the historical plot- only to defend apparent plot devices written by the same team. Glad to see there is still room for imagination in some fan's minds, then again, maybe not- we are C* sucking lunatics after all ;)
MJCrest 5 months ago
@MTERM775
everyone will laugh their ass off in 20 years at star wars saying how retro it is. it sort of makes it look fresh in a weird ironic way.
menacinghat 3 months ago
I hear they are building a 3rd Death Star soon! It even has a movie theater, shoping mall and plenty of garage parking.
bedlaminbelgiumroxzz 2 years ago
@bedlaminbelgiumroxzz Don't forget the three-ring circus.
TheZacula 5 months ago
I loved how the Sith stole the seperatist construction and used it for themselves while the seperatist leaders rot in Mustafar lmao.
CPenha 2 years ago 5
I like the sadly melody of "The Force"at 0:04--0:08. the force theme in this scene gives the feeling Anakin is actually in the suit. In Return of the Jedi we knew Anakin was in the suit...but didnt know the actual Anakin charcter well enough...so the emotinal feeling is not the same as it is in this patculair scene.
jurassicraptor111 2 years ago 6
I love how they added Tarkin in there.
GreatestMKfighter 2 years ago 2
In this scene at the end is Hayden Christensen as the Darth Vader character in this film instead of David Prowse & and McDiarmid standing next to each other in this video clip.
concertchoir57 2 years ago
Is that really Tarkin???
tehkao 2 years ago
I assume that it's supposed to be him.
Mrster 2 years ago
@tehkao Yes, it is Wayne Pygram cast as a young Wilhuff Tarkin.
Saerain 2 years ago 2
he looks exactly as the old dude who did governor tarkin in 1977... were they related?
316gokuful 2 years ago
@316gokuful It's the guy who play Scorpius in Farscape.
Satino 2 years ago
@316gokuful No they weren't related, however I heard that they digitally manipulated the image for this scene. They took Peter Cushing's (Tarkin) face from the 1977 film and digitally placed over the face of the actor for ROTS. Since the current actor supposedly didn't look like Cushing, they had to do this to avoid discrepancies. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this.
DBarns7 2 years ago
i believe you're right, and it makes sense they did the same thing in Terminator: Salvation with 1984 schwarzanager putting his face on the new developed T-101, thanks for the info, i understand clearly now :)
316gokuful 2 years ago
It's Peter Cushing. I have the DVD. Look in the credits it will say Peter Cushing.
concertchoir57 2 years ago
@316gokuful "The old dude" was screen legend and Hammer Horror icon Peter Cushing. Apparantly he was a top dude in real life, a really nice guy, which is ironic given how good he was at playing utter bastards, lol.
serendipity3864 11 months ago
@316gokuful "The old dude" was screen legend and Hammer Horror icon Peter Cushing. Apparantly he was a top dude in real life, a really nice guy, which is ironic given how good he was at playing utter bastards, lol. They weren't reated though....
serendipity3864 11 months ago
trakin is a military master mind, but he had ego issues and believed nothing could harm his battle station, that proved to be his undoing~
ledzeppelin3601 2 years ago
That actually was not the death star in that scene. That was the prototype for the death star. just the weapon itself, the frame, and a power source. It was built first to test it. The death star came years later. That is of course unless one thinks that it takes 20+ years to build a station.....
darkmagic1701 2 years ago
George Lucas confirmed that that is the Death Star from Episode IV. He would have you believe that yes, it does take 20+ years to build it.
spork24601 2 years ago 2
well, the DSII took the only 4 years to construct between Episodes IV and VI... though it was still unfinished in Episode VI
deltanalliance 2 years ago 2
It is entirely possible the Death Star II was already being built whilst the first Death Star was still there.
If you had something that powerful, you wouldn't waste it on just one part of the Galaxy.
Zlactoc 2 years ago 3
I would like to believe it wouldnt take a power like the empire 20 years to build a station but George Lucas said it did. But however something the size of the death star, its believable especially for a first try
For the second, they knew what they had to do and had everything prepaired, and the emperor made it a rush job
jasmine5000 2 years ago
the thing had numerous design flaws and a lot of problems occurred during construction.
Lessons were learned and the larger Death Star II was built faster than its predecessor
ANACONDA360 2 years ago
yeah thats kind of what I said but thanks
jasmine5000 2 years ago
u'd work faster too if a black helmeted guy would tell you he can find "new ways to motivate" you to work faster :D
cr4yv3n 2 years ago
And it was probably under construction when the original was destroyed, anyway.
Why build only one superweapon? :P
Nomis0900 2 years ago
this is the one from episode 4. they had labor problems, shortages of supplies, and they had to move it from planet to planet to get resources.
incinerator327 2 years ago
i agree, im pretty sure this is the same death star from episode 4. i just dont get where ppl r getting that it takes 20+ years to make? I dont remember hearing anywhere in a new hope that the death star was brand new. It couldve taken like 10 years or so and then it was operational for the remainder of the time period between episode 3 and 4, hence why it was so important for the rebels to destroy it.
yader91 2 years ago
@yader91 except in episode 4 you hear dialogue about the death start finishing its "test", and being operational.
johnkerry7 1 year ago
It's a battle station the size of a moon, complete with super laser. For a first time, I'm willing to believe in a 19-year construction.
JohnWFern 2 years ago
These reason why it took the first Death Star over 20 years to build it was it often attacked and heavily damaged by Rebels, while it was under construction. Also the death Star was often moved to different locations, to maintain secretcy untill it was moved to the Maw. Also Death Star was extremely expensive, that funding was limited. Therefore the work on the first death Star was not continous. The second was succesfully hidden untill episode just prior to Endor
RocketHarry865 1 year ago 5
I think ROTS was best movie of the prequel trilogy. This scene could have even matched any dramatical scene from ESB.
Highguard1701 2 years ago 2
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Highguard1701 2 years ago
Is tarkin a computer animation?
Finalzero 2 years ago
No. Tarkin is portrayed by an actor that resembles Peter Cushing. I came here looking for the clip of Tarkin in RotS after learning that.
unMotivator 2 years ago
very tragic and sad, and the music...
...shit, too sad
alberto1616 2 years ago
Oh no! Scorpius couldn't get wormhole weapons so he built himself a Death Star instead!
Oh, what will become of the once mighty Dalek Empire?
angagaur 2 years ago
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thecrazymadbull 2 years ago
I loved this scene in the movie. Just a question to the die hard fans. What possessed Vader to continue on? As He turned to the Dark Side for Padme, and she died.
themacbookone 2 years ago
what else was he going to do? he turned on the Jedi, he killed padme. thats the only future left for him.
nightfall221 2 years ago 3
Grand Moff Tarkin is a legend
NottinghamForest22 2 years ago 2
They need to include him as a republic officer in the Clone Wars series
themacbookone 2 years ago 3
LONG LIVE THE GALACTIC EMPIRE!
I love this, they should kick off a series about the Empire's Rise to Power and make them the chief characters.
I've heard they are actually...
DarthOxillious 2 years ago
I love the song in this part. It is dark, tragic and endlessly compelling...too bad it never made to the original soundtrack.
CPenha 2 years ago
aside from the bad movie tarkin looks good. man I need a impireal costume.
thebttfchannel 2 years ago
it's funny, the first Death Star took like 18 years, give or take to make. The second Death Star which is even bigger took 3 years. Yes, i know it's not completed but probably in a year or two it would've been. Just a thought......
meridgey 2 years ago
new tech
thebttfchannel 2 years ago
They tripled the amount of workers in the actual station working, They improved technology and in the end the workers started dying from the lack of rest and food.
miltonluvsno1 2 years ago
It could of been that they ordered a second one to be constructed while the first was during mid construction
themacbookone 2 years ago
So I understand that the clones were made on Kamino, but then where did the Republic suddenly get all the battlecruisers (proto-star destroyers)? Kamino didn't have any shipyards, and the Republic didn't have those ships previously to the Clone Wars.
Krylov223 2 years ago
probably got it from kuat shipyard
dannyyang525 2 years ago 2
Well the bulk of the Republic ships were build by the Kaut shipyards like the infamous Ventor class as shown in this clip. But the Acclamator-class assault ship wich was the back bone of the Republic wich was produced by alsmost every Republic shipyard there was. These ships were produced in there tens of thousand and many of them stil saw service after the Republic and Empire were long gone. Also some Victory-class Star Destroyers and Star Destroyers MK1 saw action during the clone wars
CalacticEmpire 2 years ago
I haven't ever seen any bitching about vader crossing his arms. Why are you guys so upset about it? I think its cool.
EndeavourLaunch 2 years ago 3
Crossing his arms is no big deal to me. It just implies that Vader is content/satisfied, which would be unrealistic considering he just lost Padme and had Obi-Wan turn on him. Vader was never the "content" type of Sith.
Krylov223 2 years ago
It seems more like he's deep in thought rather than content.
bubbaluu 2 years ago
Grand Moff Tarkin, yeah, cgi of a young peter cushing...
selatoc 2 years ago
The worst is that in the film about birth of the empire there is no imperial march acsept this short scene, even in scene of empire proclamation where it would be most sutable they gave some tragic theme dham political corection.
JediJensarai 3 years ago
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ottomam 3 years ago
now this is when the darkness cover the galaxy, i like this scene, it is so epic
zjt2322 3 years ago
I really liked this scene. The music summed everything up
vashthestampede2008 3 years ago 2
that guy looks really like tarkin how did they made that?
MitchMaker 3 years ago
I just can't see anakin in that suit, Lucas did a terrible job casting and portraying Young Anakin
hameed 3 years ago 3
I think thats the idea
kinggodzilla87 3 years ago
he is suppost to be like that. he is so filled with grief that the suit is like a jail, add insult to injury . then he overcomes this grief and he walks tall and is the vader from the oringinal trilogy
goofoffproductions 3 years ago
taht is tarkin it has to be look at his face for starters. i like things like this which are added in, makes a good link
spencer6654 3 years ago
I love how they repainted the ventor destroyers to match the grey imperial colors.
But i wonder how long they still would have bin in service.
CalacticEmpire 3 years ago
@CalacticEmpire
I imagine they would've been gradually withdrawn as newer classes (Imperials/Victory's/etc.) came into service, during the OT period they were probably mostly in reserve fleets.
DarkWizard83 1 year ago
this is how the movie should have ended
DarthXephron 3 years ago
Its sad to see how he destroyed his own life(mostly robot) at a young age too
CPenha 3 years ago
Well you have to think that he's young here and over time as his body grew even older he had to have alterations made to the suit and life support system as he needed a bigger, better one to support his ailing life later on in his old age.
Kazeromaru 3 years ago
he was only around 40 when he died
swiftjt 3 years ago
Yeah, took the Empire 20 damn years to build that horrid Death Star and it only took some farm boy just 20 seconds to blow it all up!
Starhawk73 3 years ago 2
What I don't get is, it takes em about 20 years to make the 1st one, and then only about 3 to make an even bigger 2nd one. I bet the Emperor had trouble with the builders
Trayusstudent1 3 years ago
I think the second Death Star was started shortly after the first one but still, even with rapid prototyping machines and worker droids going at it full time it still would take the Empire a long while to make something the size of a small planet!
I still think the smart way to go would have been to continue to beef up their navy and NOT get rid of their ARC troopers!
Starhawk73 3 years ago
The second one must have been started shortly after the first one was started
swiftjt 3 years ago
according to the george lucas comentary, he mentioned that they had supply/ resource problems and it had slowed them down in the construction for several years.
ALEE775 3 years ago
tarkin fucking r00ls
ImLordRevan 3 years ago 5
Yeah. Too bad Pete died. It would've been awesome if he made the appearance as Tarkin. Don't get me wrong though, Pygram did a great job in this scene.
MilanKorr91 3 years ago 4
Oh come on guys. Vader crossing his arms was totally awesome and you know it.
MilanKorr91 3 years ago
No, this was a huge mistake. He shouldn't have done that. The only explanation I can find is that Vader isn't used to his suit, so he hasn't realized yet that folding his arms isn't really comfortable, due to his breast plate (or whatever you call it).
slabate 3 years ago
*life support system. lol
MilanKorr91 3 years ago
Thanks!
slabate 3 years ago
Yeah, just as the scene ends, he goes : "Ouch, that hurts!" Lol
Trayusstudent1 3 years ago
Yea its stupid. Why would he feel the need to fold his arms if cant feel them
swiftjt 3 years ago
Because it looks cool... :)
Infinity238 3 years ago
yeah, the arms cross was like the cherry on a steaming pile of poo. I just saw the footage of Prowse yelling Vader's lines through the costume. Now that guy was acting!
muddbutts 3 years ago
He crosses his arms? scary. Is there any other scene where vader crosses his arms? What is he a history professor?
muddbutts 3 years ago
I still find this is a mistake. David Prowse wouldn't have done that, had he played Vader in this episode.
slabate 3 years ago