Good video, but it simply reduces the debate to the understanding of 'moral relativism' and how one cannot argue morals but has to learn to advance their arguments from their morals.
@smartass933...how am i supposed to respond to such an illiterate comment? the articulation of your comment is as ludicrous as the reasoning of your arguement (what i could decipher, anyway). just another brainwashed, rightwing idiotic, retard trying to attack what it can't understand.
Sexual exploitation of a 12 year old. Parents and church exploiting a pre-pubescent "little girl" to put her at the front of the abortion debate. Abortion, as in the result of sex. Her parents and church are ok with sexualizing a "little girl" all of 12 years old, focusing her on people fucking, getting pregnant, and making grown up personal decisions as to whether or not to have an abortion. A freaking 12 year old who hasn't even hit puberty or kissed a boy (or girl). This is child abuse.
Here in Ireland today the good guys finally scored a point in the war against religion esp. roman catholicism. Our priminister informed the pope that the law of the land supercedes cannon law i.e. the clergy will be prosecuted if they attempt to hide information about priests sexually abusing minors. The church has ruled with an iron fist here for years - it is truly a triumph! And one thing is certain, if men could have babies the church would endorse drive thru abortion clinics!
I just say stop abortion because it's the man and womans fault they banged each other. Billions of people die every day so I am VERY sure the world can afford one more HUMAN BEING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@hiddengirl96 You dumbass we can't afford anymore people millions die yet 4 times that many are being born the human race will die if the population gets to big, therefore your post is invalid, void, and quite stupid.
the comments directed at this girl are misdirected. this kid only espouses what she's been taught. get pissed at the parents who have programmed another self righteous, holier than thou, judgemental little twit. now she will grow and try to tell everyone else how to live. put a sock in it,kid. and tell your parents they are assholes.
this little girl and her parents are a perfect argument FOR abortion. i don't blame her for being an ignorant twit, i am sure she will grow out of it and go on to sell used cars somewhere.
12 year old girls DON'T NO SH*T ABOUT SEX. Cut out the tissue with a razor sharp knife. Don't bring into the world what is not wanted. Have you ever seen Africa?
Things like this may be considered wrong or immoral by some people, but why should they be able to enforce their moral beliefs on people? That's just as bad as Stalin or Hitler oppressing people's beliefs on the grounds that everyone should think the same way as they do. All these small unnecessary illegalities need to be gotten rid of e.g. drugs need to be legalised, gay marriage legalised etc. We need Libertarian Socialism now, before our thoughts start getting regulated by our governments.
@96Optimistic Pro-abortionists always make this mistake. It has nothing to do with us. We only put emphasis on the uborn child and the father who has no say in the matter. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Making rape and murder illegal is enforcing moral beliefs, is it not? It's not always a bad thing. If causes harm to others, then it should be illegal.
@ColibriAnna08 Another factor with abortion is money - a lot of people can't afford having a child. This is a massive shame and something that should be sorted out before even THINKING about making abortion illegal. And rape and murder aren't moral beliefs. I don't think anyone would consider murder or rape to be something to consider legalising. Abortion is a moral belief - making it illegal is mostly based around harcore Christian beliefs, rather than popular belief.
@96Optimistic "A lot of people can't afford having a child..." ADOPTION! That is a weak and insufficient excuse. Adoption is always an option and an alternative to abortion.
Rape and murder is a moral issue. Anything having to do with right and wrong is the definition of morality. As for abortion benig a moral belief that corresponds with Christianity, most of the people I know who think abortion is wrong are not Christian. They are simply selfless and thoughtful.
Ever heard of something called freedom of choice? We're meant to have it in the western world, but people like many of these people commenting on this video and the political leaders in our governments are constantly trying to take it away from us. Just because it's legal, it doesn't mean you have to do it. It should be a person's choice whether or not they want to do something. It affects them and their feelings, why should the state decide that they have the authority to alter their decisions?
@96Optimistic By your logic, someone's choice should always be justified no matter what it is. How can you honestly not realize that what that choice is determines whether or not it should be allowed, not just being a choice to begin with? If we all followed your thinking, drugs and suicide would be legal and normal, because it's personal choice.
@ColibriAnna08 Drugs and suicide would be legal? Why shouldn't they be? Why make suicide illegal in the first place? Your arguments are quite hypocritical: You draw pathetic analogies before telling someone else that their arguments are irrelevant. A person's choice SHOULD always be justified. But it should still be punished if you harm another human without a valid reason e.g. self defence OR ABORTION. Some people can't afford children but your capitalist mind doesn't understand this.
Sorry, when I say 'why shouldn't they be?' I mean 'why should they be'. As in drugs and suicide should be legal. In fact, suicide shouldn't be legal or illegal - you can't enforce it haha. But with drugs - they don't harm you if you don't put a load of shit in it, which wouldn't happen with legal drugs.
Just because you don't think drugs or suicide should be illegal doesn't mean the analogy is pathetic. Abortion is legal based on the argument that it is a choice. Then, why aren't drugs and suicide legal? It is a pefect comparison and proves being a choice does not make something right. Don't degrade it because you don't agree.
Abortion does cause harm. Not only does it kill, but fathers hae no choice whether or not their child is born and I have seem that cause great pain and depression.
@96Optimistic As for affording children. Hello... adoption? A new born baby is in high demand in the adoption industry. He/she would find a home almost immediately. That is a weak excuse that only a person ignorant of reality would use. Obviously, you're mind can't understand this, even though the simpliest of logic makes it clear.
And if women being without access to such health services doesn't mean anything to you, I'm not at all surprised, because you seem so thoroughly out of touch with the world that I don't doubt you likely feel that everything revolves around divine will or something, and if people don't want an STD they should just pray to Jesus to make it go away. I hope you realize how stupid your "morality of abortion" question was. This isn't about morality, is it? It's about imposing your will on others.
Again, you go on and on about issues unrelated to the morality of abortion. You talk about STDs and birth control - irrelevant material for you to hide behind! As I said three times and you ignored, every health clinic will give you FREE STD screenings, FREE birth control, FREE ovulation tests. Why are you so defedning the business of abortion? You are a misinformed cad and you need to stop elevating yourself at such a high level, claiming you are for women when you are for a business!
For real though, I'd love to live in the mythical fairytale land of ColibriAnna08 and her ilk, where women aren't raped, where condoms don't break, where birth control pills are never defective, and where abstinence is a practical solution to unwanted pregnancies and "blame the victim" is actually a valid activity that even women themselves can do (do you blame victims of rape for dressing scantily, too?)
What a paradise! What a utopia! It's such a shame we have to live in reality instead.
@BigMikeMcBastard Women who are raped are only 14% of those who get abortions. You can't justify the majority with the minority. In fact, abstinence is the only practical solution because it's the only prevention that is 100% effective. A woman who gets pregnant is only a victim of her choices. She is aware condoms could break and that birth control could be defective. She was informed when she had sex of the risks, and can't in the slightest definition be called a victim.
@ColibriAnna08 Abstinence isn't effective at preventing unwanted pregnancies, because people will have sex regardless of what you say. The only practical method of preventing unwanted pregnancies is through the promotion of contraceptive use, and general education about sex. Your clueless approach to this stuff is as ignorant as it is indifferent to the ACTUAL outcomes they produce.
I love that you blame the victim though. I can't get enough of women who blame other women for this stuff. Hah.
That's a logical fallacy. Abstinence is effective. If you don't have sex then you don't get pregnant. Yes, people will always have sex, but my point is that if you're talking about preventions being faulty, I tell you abstinence isn't and if a women doesn't want a baby she should use it. Now that is an actual outcome.
People use the term "victim" so loosely. How is an informed woman who chooses to have sex a victim? That's like saying a person who drives drunk is a victim of a car crash.
Also, I'd like to say that if "a person is a person no matter how small", then is a sex cell a person? If so, then even sex with intent to conceive goes against your beliefs, as millions of other potential children die upon ejaculation and shortly after.
@silencesoloud12 Some of the anti-choice crowd definitely feel that way. Certain religious movements concur, with their "masturbation is a sin" stuff and the whole quiver-full movement.
I'd also like to see how much effort these folks put toward alleviating hunger and illness in underdeveloped countries. If windbags like this girl actually gave two shits about preserving human life no matter what, they'd stop wasting their time with abortion and focus on helping people in Africa etc.
@BigMikeMcBastard I agree, but just for clarification purposes, which of my comments were you responding to?
Note: I'm pretty much dead broke and pro-choice but I still manage to give some money to organizations that further humanitarian efforts world wide. What the fuck do the pro-lifers do?
@BigMikeMcBastard What the hell are YOU doing? Are you getting out in the world and helping people? It looks like you're just spending your time ranting on Youtube.
@ColibriAnna08 Yeah, because it's such a major time investment writing a <500 character YouTube comment. Please, allow me to go over in great detail what I do:
@BigMikeMcBastard And you are assuming Pro-lifers don't help people? I'm a pro-life, and I sponsor children trough Compassion International and volunteer for them. Don't ever make such accusations.
@ColibriAnna08 The anti-choice movements in general don't really give a shit about helping people. See the recent efforts to shut down Planned Parenthood, who handle abortions as a small percentage of their many services. There's also a tremendous overlap between anti-choice folks and the Christian right wing, which is of course big on supporting illegal wars, loves to fuck over the poor and minorities, and doesn't favour giving foreign aid to developing nations. So you are in poor company.
I love how your go on rants and point the finger without any proof or citation. Little do you obviously know, that there are efforts to terminate Planned Parenthood because actors were sent in with hidden cameras as pimps asking for abortions for teenage prostitutes, and the staff gladly helped without a second thought. The topic here is abortion. If you can't defend the morality of abortion without resorting to irrelevant issues, then obviously you shouldn't be defending it at all.
@ColibriAnna08 You realize that the Planned Parenthood videos are from James O'Keefe, right?
Either way, I'm glad you think that a potential couple of members of Planned Parenthood doing something against the rules is justification for shutting down the entire organization. It's not like they're the largest provider of female reproductive health services in the US or anything.
As for defending the morality of abortion, what's the point? Am I on the cusp of convincing you? Didn't think so.
@BigMikeMcBastard I don't see how that's of any importance, especially with the fact that many Planned Parenthood employees have admitted to misconduct. You're very wrong because it was not just a couple employees. Several activists have done the same thing across the US with the same results. I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas from because Planned Parenthood IS the largest abortion provider in the country.
The morality of abortion is the entire issue. Where have you been?
@ColibriAnna08 The importance is that the guy who presented this video is known to doctor videos to given false impressions in the past. He did the same pimp scheme with ACORN. It was fake, but Fox News and other conservative idiots screamed loudly enough so nobody cared that it was fake.
Where've I been? I guess you want me to pretend that you challenged me on an issue of morality rather than what I spend my time doing, then?
Also, you have nooooo idea what I do so stop while you're ahead.
@BigMikeMcBastard Yes, *in the past*. If these impressions are false, why have employees and executives of Planned Parenthood done their own investigations and admitted to misconduct as well as firing many of their staff?
I have a good idea, dear, that you don't get out in the world and voice your opinion and do anything to help others. Rather, you do it on Youtube. It's very transparent.
@ColibriAnna08 People at any organization on the planet do things they're not supposed to sometimes. If you think that means women should lose access to birth control and numerous other reproductive health services I don't know what to say. Obviously the health of women and preventing abortions isn't on your agenda however, as shutting down Planned Parenthood would only lead to far more unwanted pregnancies.
Sweetheart, the average health clinic around the corner offers birth control and reproductive services. That's a weak argument at it's best. Yes, I am a women, and the health of women isn't on my agenda! Silly. The best prevention at not having an unwanted pregnancy is to not have sex. You don't cure the problem, you prevent. Abortion allows women to behave however they want with no consequences. The proof of this statement? Half of women who get abortions have had a previous one.
@ColibriAnna08 You have no idea what Planned Parenthood does, do you?
And it never ceases to amaze me how people can be made to work against their best interests. If it isn't the Tea Party fighting for the rights of the top 2% to have lower taxes, it's women fighting for the largest provider of female health services in their country to be undone.
But at least you admit that this is about controlling the sexuality of women. How dare they have sex with no consequences, huh? Not on your watch!
@BigMikeMcBastard Yes, I do. You challenge that, and then you don't say what it is I'm missing. Typical... It's not about me. That's a fallacy and and ignorant tactic that pro-abortioners use - trying to say I'm making it about me. You ignore the fact that my logic is right. You ignore the fact that statistics support it. If you have an easy way out everytime you face consequences for you bad behavior, then you'll never learn and you'll never grow up. You deny this? Then you're a fool.
@ColibriAnna08 Anyway, because you either can't do the leg-work or brain-work yourself, Planned Parenthood sees over five million women a year and only 2 - 3% of that is for abortions. They are, as said, the #1 provider of female health services. If callous old white guys with the help of gullible and mean-spirited little girls succeed in removing its federal funding, then many women will go without STD screening, without birth control, without all of these vital health services.
You honestly think the numbers are on your side? Planned Parenthood provides 62 times more abortions than adoptions every year. Pro-abortioners claim to be on the woman's side. That's a lie. They don’t want women to see ultrasounds because then, they might choose to keep their baby. They don’t want women to know that adoption is an option for them, too. Women are misled.
STD screenings and birth control are offered FREE at every health clinic in the US. Stop using that as a crutch.
@ColibriAnna08 And as it turns out you're the one who began this by presuming to know what I do with my time, so don't get all pouty that I'm not talking about why abortion is the moral right of women, that's hardly what you seemed concerned about to begin with.
@BigMikeMcBastard It wasn't a presumption. Obviously, someone who tells people to do something on Youtube rather than doing it themselves doesn't do much with their time. Why not get involved and help impoverished children. I don't think killing your unborn child without consent of the father because you don't want to accept the responsibility of your actions is a moral right!
thats the problem with pro-life people. they use fear and emotions to get what they want. makes sense that she would want to influence how you veiw abortion, seeing how she cant vote yet.
i am against abortion. but using these tactics, "oh babies are cute therefor we shouldnt kill them", is childish. (makes sense to have a child talk about it)
i feel sorry for this kid. the brainwashing is incredibly creepy. what weak disgusting parents she has. it is the cheapest, most deplorable stunt to use a little girl to spew your bullshit for you. pathetic. as if she ever had an original thought about it ffs. shameful.
While i disagree, I think you are a great speaker!
We both agree on the fact the abortion is unfortunate, but you must understand that making abortion illegal will not prevent it from happening. in fact, it will become worse. Just look at what happened when abortion was last illegal. Wealthy people would bribe doctors for vast amounts of money to preform abortions. Poorer people had no choice but to go to "backalley" abortion clinics, and these places were unsanitary and patients often died.
have you guys seen her recent vids? she has turned into a complete snot. she really does think way too highly of herself. mommy and daddy have created a snot nosed little brat.
@Velokid93 HAHAHAHA, LOL...she has not a clue what she's saying. She's been groomed. You think it's normal for a 12 yo to discuss abortion????? NO, its disgusting. It's even more disgusting that her parents use her for their religious agenda. She's not using her mind, she's spewing bullshit pumped into her by her parents. I know it, and so do you. If this were a 12 yo making vids about being pro choice, you'd be outraged. Quit being a hypocrite.
@ILoveFriedFetus This is almost certainly true as well. If she were smart enough to come to all of these conclusions on her own, and write speeches as she does, she'd be smart enough to realize what she's saying is pretty stupid. She's very likely an instrument of the adults around her, and I feel sorry for her. A malleable child shouldn't be allowed to be warped with this religious nonsense so thoroughly.
lk17:2it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. 0ver 50MILLION BABIES MURDERED BY ABORTION > PICK ON SOMEBODY YOUR OWN SIZE ,
@737flyhigh you didnt seem to mind when your bible god was ordering ifanticide and dashing babies heads on rocks after slashing open the mothers stomachs to get them out. you christards are amazing. abortion is wrong, but your god punishing people who didnt kiss his ass enough by murdering their children, ah well, that's just fine!
Rev21:8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Jesus Christ has a place called Hell for unrepented BABY MURDERS REV21:8
@canadianskye1964 IT IS WRITTEN REV22:18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
@TheRedLuigi mt24:35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.romans 3:4a God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;
@737flyhigh And completely ignore all the babies whose heads were bashed in at god's command. And all the ones who were killed by any other means, also by god's will.
@canadianskye1964 IT IS WrittenMT4:4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
@canadianskye1964 1cor6:2Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?ABORTION IS BABY MURDER<REV 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Jer 1:6 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I [am] a child.
Psalm139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully [and] wonderfully made: marvellous [are] thy works; and [that] my soul knoweth right well.
Psa 139:15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, [and] curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Psa 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all [my members] were written, [which] in continuance were fashioned, when [as yet there was] none of them.
@canadianskye1964 col3:18Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. eph5:22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Before abortions were legalized in US, menstrual extractions were permitted and not considered illegal. It is the removal of the contents of the uterus even before it is due. Professional female athletes can use this procedure to avoid menstruation before a marathon.It is also a safe way of avoiding unwanted pregnancies in a sterile environment. An actual demonstration of the procedure would be disgusting, and so is the discarding of used sanitary products. There is some cramping, like a period
If the government does not want to pay for abortions anymore, that is one thing. Early abortions should still be available at low cost to people that self pay. Is this video about US bailouts. I am confused as this little girl is from Canada. What political issue is she addressing? Any particular elections. Is she talking about morals or politics? I don't think she is qualified to be counselor at either an abortion clinic or a hospice. I hope she is getting straight A's in other subjects too.
Looks like somebody's been too busy teaching Lia that abortion is wrong and has neglected to teach her basic mathematics. Imagine if all those millions of aborted foetuses had been born and grown up to reach a healthy adulthood. Planet Earth would be getting pretty darn crowded by now...
@sblist; those prolifers who may have a little space for other ideas can check out this webiste:
the only moral abortion is my abortion
it is a website about known prolifers who have had abortions at the very abortion clinics they picketed. (they were known to the clinic to be anti-choice.)
yes prolfers have had abortions when they are stuck between a rock & a hard place & then had the gall to picket, etc the very clinics they had an abortion at.
@canadianskye1964 READ JESUS CHRIST OWN WORDS Jh8:44Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
@canadianskye1964 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.rev21:8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.rev.9:21Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. JESUS OWN WORD
@canadianskye1964 Liar I dont think i am god ,but I KNOW I am HIs BLOOD BOUGHT child and He Gave me HIS righteousness and Jesus my Saviour will be with all the murdered by abortion children in heaven forever, and the Devil and all his followers WILL be cast into hell FOREVER Jesus Said it u or no one else can change it .
I guarentee all unless you repent and get saved and stop Murdering Children that you are going to have to deal with someone your OWN SIZE and He,s a lot more powerfull" all "powerfull, unstopable and eternal,and the creator of those little ones that you and your father the DEVIL are Murdering ,WILL and u can Mark it down will be cast into HELL F_O R_E_V_E _R. REV21:8. THERE will Be NO BABY KILLERS IN HEAVEN NO WAY IN JESUS NAME
@canadianskye1964 I Have already cotaced The lord Jesus Christ about the 50MILLION children 9 months and under who have been MURDERED BY ABORTION whom he created and , He told me The devil and his pro-death children who dont repent are going to His Eternal Jail called HELL FOREVER JOHN8:44 revelation 21:8 .
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Besides there will always be wise women who do not need clinics to induce a miscarriage.
What on this green earth does a Canadian 12-yr-old have to do with ignorant right-wing politics in the USofA? And why would any adult in the USofA be remotely interested in what a 12-yr-old has to say about anything, let alone about their own fundamental, human, constitutional rights? Yeesh. Speaks volumes, that does. Ignorant right-wing USAmerican politics, neatly summed up by a child. Well, I enjoyed tea parties when I was her age ...
I wonder if this little girl will have the same opinions after a few more years of life experience. As a man raised a Catholic, I am concerned about the propaganda of the pro life movement esp. when men are doing the preaching. If you're a man you have no right telling a woman what to do with her body! I'll say one thing....... if men could have unplanned pregnancies.... the church would make abortion a sacrament!
@wjl1970 This whole focus on the gender of the speaker rather than the argument given smacks of the Bulverism fallacy to me: watch?v=y_6hKiDRsaU
This whole focus on the gender of the speaker is kind of lame considering that the debate is over fetal rights and not over who happens to be giving what argument.
it should be pointed out that the bible never once mentions abortion. you christians have no clue how your fictional god feels about abortion (im thinking, after reading the book of hosea, that he's pretty cool with it considering he did it too).
Using a 12 yo girl to further their anti choice, anti freedom agenda. what will these religious extremists do next? subjecting a child to the issue of abortion is dispicable. she is not even old enough to fully comprehend what she is talking about. i can only hope she will grow up, get correct information, and think for herself. indoctrinating of children can be quite harmful.
@TheGreatRL did u know only 1.7 percenof abortions are performed because of rape or incemost abortioest? get ur facts strait most abortions target minorites in order to exterminate us . ur founder was a eugenics co founder and that is the sterilazation of a race. abortion is murderether u agree or not. in 3 weeks a fetus can grow arms and legs but yet u still deny it life because it is not a "child" u should look into this more.
@drfudge11 well since its so small of a percentage, it shouldn't be a problem then. Are you willing to go up to that 1.7 percent and say "you must carry your baby to term"? And thats a ridiculous myth that abortion targets minorities. The woman isn't FORCED to getting an abortion. That is ludacrious. Get YOUR facts straight.
@drfudge11 1. Learn to communicate properly. 2. The percentage doesn't invalidate his point. Also, a corpse has arms and legs. Your point is invalidated. And let me counter you further, what if you were raped and left pregnant? Would you want to be told you had to carry a reminder of the most painful moment of your life?
I support abortion. This stupid little bitch is simply echoing the propaganda of Jewish over-populationists. May this bitch be forced to have future abortions, for the sake of wilderness and environmental protection. She sounds American - so she's probably from a really dangerous, stupid Christian religious background.
@Richardhedditch261 John8:Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it
100 percent true young lady ,I agree with you . Jesus Christ calls it MURDER and He has a place for people who will not repent called Hell revelation 21:8. God Bless you ,
@737flyhigh Jesus never talked about abortion you ass hole! Quit quoting nonexistent Bible verses! Don't you have some gay bashing to do, you horrible Christian?
@AGR04 Jesus said in john chapter 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. and in rev 21:8 he sats HE WILL CAST ALL MURDERERS INTO HELL >MARK IT DOWN ITS A FACT AND U CANT CHANGE IT
@AGR04 God says it is murder He is not a liar .the Devil Is the Bible also talks about False science. people who will not repent will be cast into Hell .and they will deffinitly believe in about 2 seconds into thier eternal liquid lava HELL
@AGR04 rev 21:But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
i dont think she's so arrogant....more than anything, she looks like she was expecting a cookie from mummy and duddy for *passionately* saying what they say LOL
Nuclear weapons, population control and Vegan are the most critical issues from my experiences, research and service in peace corps. Vegetarians reduce world hunger, environment, health care and billions of tortured conscious mammals, fast facts at goveg (dot) com/theissues.asp. Most religions dont oppose factory farms and environment we rely on. Im not that anti putting dogs down painlessly or human sperm, our Population is a huge issue. Prevention best, but welfare no, then adopt them all.
Im just so amazed by the fact that this young 12 year-old girl makes more sense than obama. I also find it amazing that many people who voted for him dont relieze he made abortion legal... if you agree vote up.
@paramorelove100 Yes, pet. And Obma engages in human sacrifice and was born on Jupiter, if I recall correctly. Does it not hurt to be so stupid? It should hurt to be such a liar.
For a 12 year girl, you are very intelligent. I think abortion should never be used as birth control. About 90% of abortions performed in the U.S. are used as birth control. Therefore in cases like that ABORTION=MURDER.
@mjt19741 It's not murder if it's not a human life. If a fetus was a human being it wouldn't be called a fetus. It'd be called some thing else...like a human being!
@AGR04 A fetus is not scientifically classified as human. Which means that it is only classified as a fetus. But it is not proven that a fetus is not human. A babies heartbeat is found as early as 4 weeks into the mothers pregnancy.
The word kill is equal to murder or classified as murder. If you kill a fetus you are murdering a fetus/human.
this young person is quite brilliant. she has a natural quality that has enabled her to deliver a message in an adult-like manner, and does it with such conviction!
A person is not a person no matter how small. In that case, my sperm is a person, because without my sperm there would be no person. That means I kill thousands of children every time I...you know...do it.
The child speaks the truth.
fayetrue 1 week ago
Good video, but it simply reduces the debate to the understanding of 'moral relativism' and how one cannot argue morals but has to learn to advance their arguments from their morals.
MrDrwhocares 1 month ago
Every baby deserves the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness!
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wackymikey1995 5 months ago
YOUR VOICE IS FUCKING ANNOYING!
wackymikey1995 5 months ago
I SUPPORT ABORTION!!
wackymikey1995 5 months ago
@wackymikey1995 murderer
quinny946 1 month ago
@smartass933...how am i supposed to respond to such an illiterate comment? the articulation of your comment is as ludicrous as the reasoning of your arguement (what i could decipher, anyway). just another brainwashed, rightwing idiotic, retard trying to attack what it can't understand.
hotjar71 6 months ago
@ksb100pr...awesome comment.
hotjar71 6 months ago
Sexual exploitation of a 12 year old. Parents and church exploiting a pre-pubescent "little girl" to put her at the front of the abortion debate. Abortion, as in the result of sex. Her parents and church are ok with sexualizing a "little girl" all of 12 years old, focusing her on people fucking, getting pregnant, and making grown up personal decisions as to whether or not to have an abortion. A freaking 12 year old who hasn't even hit puberty or kissed a boy (or girl). This is child abuse.
ksb100pr 7 months ago
Poor girl, raised by conservative parents, feeding her patriarchy at such a young age. Such a deed is child abuse.
manevolentroe 7 months ago
Here in Ireland today the good guys finally scored a point in the war against religion esp. roman catholicism. Our priminister informed the pope that the law of the land supercedes cannon law i.e. the clergy will be prosecuted if they attempt to hide information about priests sexually abusing minors. The church has ruled with an iron fist here for years - it is truly a triumph! And one thing is certain, if men could have babies the church would endorse drive thru abortion clinics!
newfrontier01 7 months ago
It's the moms choice. Its not like its a full term baby, it's just a fetus that isn't developed.
KeshaForever10 7 months ago
You can't stop progress little girl, So you might as well stop since walking backwards is not practical.
shadowtygo 7 months ago
I'm so glad I live in Europe and don't have to put up with such a judgemental preachy little cow like this.
npe1 8 months ago
Im not overtly pro abortion but I do fell that in the most extreme of cases, It could be condoned, eg (rape, incest)
TheFabregasHater 8 months ago
I just say stop abortion because it's the man and womans fault they banged each other. Billions of people die every day so I am VERY sure the world can afford one more HUMAN BEING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hiddengirl96 8 months ago
@hiddengirl96 You dumbass we can't afford anymore people millions die yet 4 times that many are being born the human race will die if the population gets to big, therefore your post is invalid, void, and quite stupid.
shadowtygo 7 months ago
the comments directed at this girl are misdirected. this kid only espouses what she's been taught. get pissed at the parents who have programmed another self righteous, holier than thou, judgemental little twit. now she will grow and try to tell everyone else how to live. put a sock in it,kid. and tell your parents they are assholes.
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@hotjar71 shut up and go kill babies
quinny946 1 month ago
this little girl and her parents are a perfect argument FOR abortion. i don't blame her for being an ignorant twit, i am sure she will grow out of it and go on to sell used cars somewhere.
drunkcowboysf 10 months ago 3
12 year old girls DON'T NO SH*T ABOUT SEX. Cut out the tissue with a razor sharp knife. Don't bring into the world what is not wanted. Have you ever seen Africa?
DrQxx 11 months ago
Things like this may be considered wrong or immoral by some people, but why should they be able to enforce their moral beliefs on people? That's just as bad as Stalin or Hitler oppressing people's beliefs on the grounds that everyone should think the same way as they do. All these small unnecessary illegalities need to be gotten rid of e.g. drugs need to be legalised, gay marriage legalised etc. We need Libertarian Socialism now, before our thoughts start getting regulated by our governments.
96Optimistic 1 year ago
@96Optimistic Pro-abortionists always make this mistake. It has nothing to do with us. We only put emphasis on the uborn child and the father who has no say in the matter. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Making rape and murder illegal is enforcing moral beliefs, is it not? It's not always a bad thing. If causes harm to others, then it should be illegal.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 Another factor with abortion is money - a lot of people can't afford having a child. This is a massive shame and something that should be sorted out before even THINKING about making abortion illegal. And rape and murder aren't moral beliefs. I don't think anyone would consider murder or rape to be something to consider legalising. Abortion is a moral belief - making it illegal is mostly based around harcore Christian beliefs, rather than popular belief.
96Optimistic 11 months ago
@96Optimistic "A lot of people can't afford having a child..." ADOPTION! That is a weak and insufficient excuse. Adoption is always an option and an alternative to abortion.
Rape and murder is a moral issue. Anything having to do with right and wrong is the definition of morality. As for abortion benig a moral belief that corresponds with Christianity, most of the people I know who think abortion is wrong are not Christian. They are simply selfless and thoughtful.
ColibriAnna08 11 months ago
Ever heard of something called freedom of choice? We're meant to have it in the western world, but people like many of these people commenting on this video and the political leaders in our governments are constantly trying to take it away from us. Just because it's legal, it doesn't mean you have to do it. It should be a person's choice whether or not they want to do something. It affects them and their feelings, why should the state decide that they have the authority to alter their decisions?
96Optimistic 1 year ago
@96Optimistic By your logic, someone's choice should always be justified no matter what it is. How can you honestly not realize that what that choice is determines whether or not it should be allowed, not just being a choice to begin with? If we all followed your thinking, drugs and suicide would be legal and normal, because it's personal choice.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 Drugs and suicide would be legal? Why shouldn't they be? Why make suicide illegal in the first place? Your arguments are quite hypocritical: You draw pathetic analogies before telling someone else that their arguments are irrelevant. A person's choice SHOULD always be justified. But it should still be punished if you harm another human without a valid reason e.g. self defence OR ABORTION. Some people can't afford children but your capitalist mind doesn't understand this.
96Optimistic 11 months ago
Sorry, when I say 'why shouldn't they be?' I mean 'why should they be'. As in drugs and suicide should be legal. In fact, suicide shouldn't be legal or illegal - you can't enforce it haha. But with drugs - they don't harm you if you don't put a load of shit in it, which wouldn't happen with legal drugs.
96Optimistic 11 months ago
Just because you don't think drugs or suicide should be illegal doesn't mean the analogy is pathetic. Abortion is legal based on the argument that it is a choice. Then, why aren't drugs and suicide legal? It is a pefect comparison and proves being a choice does not make something right. Don't degrade it because you don't agree.
Abortion does cause harm. Not only does it kill, but fathers hae no choice whether or not their child is born and I have seem that cause great pain and depression.
ColibriAnna08 11 months ago
@96Optimistic As for affording children. Hello... adoption? A new born baby is in high demand in the adoption industry. He/she would find a home almost immediately. That is a weak excuse that only a person ignorant of reality would use. Obviously, you're mind can't understand this, even though the simpliest of logic makes it clear.
ColibriAnna08 11 months ago
And if women being without access to such health services doesn't mean anything to you, I'm not at all surprised, because you seem so thoroughly out of touch with the world that I don't doubt you likely feel that everything revolves around divine will or something, and if people don't want an STD they should just pray to Jesus to make it go away. I hope you realize how stupid your "morality of abortion" question was. This isn't about morality, is it? It's about imposing your will on others.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
Again, you go on and on about issues unrelated to the morality of abortion. You talk about STDs and birth control - irrelevant material for you to hide behind! As I said three times and you ignored, every health clinic will give you FREE STD screenings, FREE birth control, FREE ovulation tests. Why are you so defedning the business of abortion? You are a misinformed cad and you need to stop elevating yourself at such a high level, claiming you are for women when you are for a business!
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
For real though, I'd love to live in the mythical fairytale land of ColibriAnna08 and her ilk, where women aren't raped, where condoms don't break, where birth control pills are never defective, and where abstinence is a practical solution to unwanted pregnancies and "blame the victim" is actually a valid activity that even women themselves can do (do you blame victims of rape for dressing scantily, too?)
What a paradise! What a utopia! It's such a shame we have to live in reality instead.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
@BigMikeMcBastard Women who are raped are only 14% of those who get abortions. You can't justify the majority with the minority. In fact, abstinence is the only practical solution because it's the only prevention that is 100% effective. A woman who gets pregnant is only a victim of her choices. She is aware condoms could break and that birth control could be defective. She was informed when she had sex of the risks, and can't in the slightest definition be called a victim.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 Abstinence isn't effective at preventing unwanted pregnancies, because people will have sex regardless of what you say. The only practical method of preventing unwanted pregnancies is through the promotion of contraceptive use, and general education about sex. Your clueless approach to this stuff is as ignorant as it is indifferent to the ACTUAL outcomes they produce.
I love that you blame the victim though. I can't get enough of women who blame other women for this stuff. Hah.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
That's a logical fallacy. Abstinence is effective. If you don't have sex then you don't get pregnant. Yes, people will always have sex, but my point is that if you're talking about preventions being faulty, I tell you abstinence isn't and if a women doesn't want a baby she should use it. Now that is an actual outcome.
People use the term "victim" so loosely. How is an informed woman who chooses to have sex a victim? That's like saying a person who drives drunk is a victim of a car crash.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
little girl, you were adopted... your parents were a lie
nocashcf 1 year ago
Also, I'd like to say that if "a person is a person no matter how small", then is a sex cell a person? If so, then even sex with intent to conceive goes against your beliefs, as millions of other potential children die upon ejaculation and shortly after.
silencesoloud12 1 year ago
@silencesoloud12 Some of the anti-choice crowd definitely feel that way. Certain religious movements concur, with their "masturbation is a sin" stuff and the whole quiver-full movement.
I'd also like to see how much effort these folks put toward alleviating hunger and illness in underdeveloped countries. If windbags like this girl actually gave two shits about preserving human life no matter what, they'd stop wasting their time with abortion and focus on helping people in Africa etc.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
@BigMikeMcBastard I agree, but just for clarification purposes, which of my comments were you responding to?
Note: I'm pretty much dead broke and pro-choice but I still manage to give some money to organizations that further humanitarian efforts world wide. What the fuck do the pro-lifers do?
silencesoloud12 1 year ago
@silencesoloud12 Oh, insofar as considering gametes to be "potential life" and therefore sacred.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
@BigMikeMcBastard What the hell are YOU doing? Are you getting out in the world and helping people? It looks like you're just spending your time ranting on Youtube.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 Yeah, because it's such a major time investment writing a <500 character YouTube comment. Please, allow me to go over in great detail what I do:
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
@BigMikeMcBastard And you are assuming Pro-lifers don't help people? I'm a pro-life, and I sponsor children trough Compassion International and volunteer for them. Don't ever make such accusations.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 The anti-choice movements in general don't really give a shit about helping people. See the recent efforts to shut down Planned Parenthood, who handle abortions as a small percentage of their many services. There's also a tremendous overlap between anti-choice folks and the Christian right wing, which is of course big on supporting illegal wars, loves to fuck over the poor and minorities, and doesn't favour giving foreign aid to developing nations. So you are in poor company.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
I love how your go on rants and point the finger without any proof or citation. Little do you obviously know, that there are efforts to terminate Planned Parenthood because actors were sent in with hidden cameras as pimps asking for abortions for teenage prostitutes, and the staff gladly helped without a second thought. The topic here is abortion. If you can't defend the morality of abortion without resorting to irrelevant issues, then obviously you shouldn't be defending it at all.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 You realize that the Planned Parenthood videos are from James O'Keefe, right?
Either way, I'm glad you think that a potential couple of members of Planned Parenthood doing something against the rules is justification for shutting down the entire organization. It's not like they're the largest provider of female reproductive health services in the US or anything.
As for defending the morality of abortion, what's the point? Am I on the cusp of convincing you? Didn't think so.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
@BigMikeMcBastard I don't see how that's of any importance, especially with the fact that many Planned Parenthood employees have admitted to misconduct. You're very wrong because it was not just a couple employees. Several activists have done the same thing across the US with the same results. I'm not sure where you're getting your ideas from because Planned Parenthood IS the largest abortion provider in the country.
The morality of abortion is the entire issue. Where have you been?
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 The importance is that the guy who presented this video is known to doctor videos to given false impressions in the past. He did the same pimp scheme with ACORN. It was fake, but Fox News and other conservative idiots screamed loudly enough so nobody cared that it was fake.
Where've I been? I guess you want me to pretend that you challenged me on an issue of morality rather than what I spend my time doing, then?
Also, you have nooooo idea what I do so stop while you're ahead.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
@BigMikeMcBastard Yes, *in the past*. If these impressions are false, why have employees and executives of Planned Parenthood done their own investigations and admitted to misconduct as well as firing many of their staff?
I have a good idea, dear, that you don't get out in the world and voice your opinion and do anything to help others. Rather, you do it on Youtube. It's very transparent.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 People at any organization on the planet do things they're not supposed to sometimes. If you think that means women should lose access to birth control and numerous other reproductive health services I don't know what to say. Obviously the health of women and preventing abortions isn't on your agenda however, as shutting down Planned Parenthood would only lead to far more unwanted pregnancies.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
Sweetheart, the average health clinic around the corner offers birth control and reproductive services. That's a weak argument at it's best. Yes, I am a women, and the health of women isn't on my agenda! Silly. The best prevention at not having an unwanted pregnancy is to not have sex. You don't cure the problem, you prevent. Abortion allows women to behave however they want with no consequences. The proof of this statement? Half of women who get abortions have had a previous one.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 You have no idea what Planned Parenthood does, do you?
And it never ceases to amaze me how people can be made to work against their best interests. If it isn't the Tea Party fighting for the rights of the top 2% to have lower taxes, it's women fighting for the largest provider of female health services in their country to be undone.
But at least you admit that this is about controlling the sexuality of women. How dare they have sex with no consequences, huh? Not on your watch!
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
@BigMikeMcBastard Yes, I do. You challenge that, and then you don't say what it is I'm missing. Typical... It's not about me. That's a fallacy and and ignorant tactic that pro-abortioners use - trying to say I'm making it about me. You ignore the fact that my logic is right. You ignore the fact that statistics support it. If you have an easy way out everytime you face consequences for you bad behavior, then you'll never learn and you'll never grow up. You deny this? Then you're a fool.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 Anyway, because you either can't do the leg-work or brain-work yourself, Planned Parenthood sees over five million women a year and only 2 - 3% of that is for abortions. They are, as said, the #1 provider of female health services. If callous old white guys with the help of gullible and mean-spirited little girls succeed in removing its federal funding, then many women will go without STD screening, without birth control, without all of these vital health services.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
You honestly think the numbers are on your side? Planned Parenthood provides 62 times more abortions than adoptions every year. Pro-abortioners claim to be on the woman's side. That's a lie. They don’t want women to see ultrasounds because then, they might choose to keep their baby. They don’t want women to know that adoption is an option for them, too. Women are misled.
STD screenings and birth control are offered FREE at every health clinic in the US. Stop using that as a crutch.
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
@ColibriAnna08 And as it turns out you're the one who began this by presuming to know what I do with my time, so don't get all pouty that I'm not talking about why abortion is the moral right of women, that's hardly what you seemed concerned about to begin with.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
@BigMikeMcBastard It wasn't a presumption. Obviously, someone who tells people to do something on Youtube rather than doing it themselves doesn't do much with their time. Why not get involved and help impoverished children. I don't think killing your unborn child without consent of the father because you don't want to accept the responsibility of your actions is a moral right!
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
Note: a fetus is not a child until it has taken its first breath.
silencesoloud12 1 year ago
@silencesoloud12 Says who?
ColibriAnna08 1 year ago
thats the problem with pro-life people. they use fear and emotions to get what they want. makes sense that she would want to influence how you veiw abortion, seeing how she cant vote yet.
i am against abortion. but using these tactics, "oh babies are cute therefor we shouldnt kill them", is childish. (makes sense to have a child talk about it)
AceofDiamonds0 1 year ago
Lia, what form of contraceptive do you endorse, oops, she's too young to talk about that!!
mylittlekittens 1 year ago
@mylittlekittens Oh, I employ necrophilia, no disease and no pregnancy!
silencesoloud12 1 year ago
If abortion was to become illegal, some people would say that a woman has lost her right, the right to choose.
But if abortion remains legal, some people would say that the baby has lost its right, the right to life.
Either way someone's right is being taken away.
Take a few minutes and think about it.
"CHOOSE LIFE! SAVE THE BABIES!"
mjt19741 1 year ago
ILoveFriedFetus-With a name like that you must be sick.
DeanClark68 1 year ago
i feel sorry for this kid. the brainwashing is incredibly creepy. what weak disgusting parents she has. it is the cheapest, most deplorable stunt to use a little girl to spew your bullshit for you. pathetic. as if she ever had an original thought about it ffs. shameful.
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While i disagree, I think you are a great speaker!
We both agree on the fact the abortion is unfortunate, but you must understand that making abortion illegal will not prevent it from happening. in fact, it will become worse. Just look at what happened when abortion was last illegal. Wealthy people would bribe doctors for vast amounts of money to preform abortions. Poorer people had no choice but to go to "backalley" abortion clinics, and these places were unsanitary and patients often died.
sam92296 1 year ago
have you guys seen her recent vids? she has turned into a complete snot. she really does think way too highly of herself. mommy and daddy have created a snot nosed little brat.
ILoveFriedFetus 1 year ago
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So kids who debate confidently and actually use their minds are now self-important brats?
Stop raping the keyboard when you get on YouTube.
Velokid93 1 year ago
@Velokid93 HAHAHAHA, LOL...she has not a clue what she's saying. She's been groomed. You think it's normal for a 12 yo to discuss abortion????? NO, its disgusting. It's even more disgusting that her parents use her for their religious agenda. She's not using her mind, she's spewing bullshit pumped into her by her parents. I know it, and so do you. If this were a 12 yo making vids about being pro choice, you'd be outraged. Quit being a hypocrite.
ILoveFriedFetus 1 year ago
@ILoveFriedFetus This is almost certainly true as well. If she were smart enough to come to all of these conclusions on her own, and write speeches as she does, she'd be smart enough to realize what she's saying is pretty stupid. She's very likely an instrument of the adults around her, and I feel sorry for her. A malleable child shouldn't be allowed to be warped with this religious nonsense so thoroughly.
BigMikeMcBastard 1 year ago
antis should watch the video: abortion: a matter of life & death
'women who died before abortion was legal, & lastly,
"techniques women used before abortion was lega.
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
Lia Mills, I do thank God for you. You really do respect life. Every baby deserves the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@737flyhigh: i read the bible too. i just don't believe in taking it too literally.
it is too dangerous of a book for nutcases like you to judge & condemn people
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
lk17:2it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. 0ver 50MILLION BABIES MURDERED BY ABORTION > PICK ON SOMEBODY YOUR OWN SIZE ,
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@737flyhigh you didnt seem to mind when your bible god was ordering ifanticide and dashing babies heads on rocks after slashing open the mothers stomachs to get them out. you christards are amazing. abortion is wrong, but your god punishing people who didnt kiss his ass enough by murdering their children, ah well, that's just fine!
ILoveFriedFetus 1 year ago
@ILoveFriedFetus Why stop with just the children? Samson killed 1000 people with an ass' jaw bone, in one event in the bible.
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Rev21:8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Jesus Christ has a place called Hell for unrepented BABY MURDERS REV21:8
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@canadianskye1964 IT IS WRITTEN REV22:18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@737flyhigh Can you peopel PLEASE stop quotign teh bible? No sane human believes this bronze age crap anymore.
TheRedLuigi 1 year ago
@TheRedLuigi mt24:35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.romans 3:4a God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@737flyhigh And completely ignore all the babies whose heads were bashed in at god's command. And all the ones who were killed by any other means, also by god's will.
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@canadianskye1964 IT is Written Mt7:1Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
737flyhigh: the day a woman submits to her husband in the way you think, is the day she become a slave & you believe that you are a god to her.
you quoting bible verses doesn't mean anthing: any fool can do it. it doesn't mean you are any more christian than anyone else.
as an anglican i do not believe in following the bible literally, as it can be interpreted in anyway to abuse people & to use a tool of hatred. to me
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@canadianskye1964 IT IS WrittenMT4:4But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
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@canadianskye1964 1cor6:2Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?ABORTION IS BABY MURDER<REV 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
737flyhigh 1 year ago
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, [and] I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
Jer 1:6 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I [am] a child.
737flyhigh 1 year ago
Psalm139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully [and] wonderfully made: marvellous [are] thy works; and [that] my soul knoweth right well.
Psa 139:15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, [and] curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Psa 139:16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all [my members] were written, [which] in continuance were fashioned, when [as yet there was] none of them.
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@canadianskye1964 col3:18Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. eph5:22Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
737flyhigh 1 year ago
Before abortions were legalized in US, menstrual extractions were permitted and not considered illegal. It is the removal of the contents of the uterus even before it is due. Professional female athletes can use this procedure to avoid menstruation before a marathon.It is also a safe way of avoiding unwanted pregnancies in a sterile environment. An actual demonstration of the procedure would be disgusting, and so is the discarding of used sanitary products. There is some cramping, like a period
mylittlekittens 1 year ago
If the government does not want to pay for abortions anymore, that is one thing. Early abortions should still be available at low cost to people that self pay. Is this video about US bailouts. I am confused as this little girl is from Canada. What political issue is she addressing? Any particular elections. Is she talking about morals or politics? I don't think she is qualified to be counselor at either an abortion clinic or a hospice. I hope she is getting straight A's in other subjects too.
mylittlekittens 1 year ago
Looks like somebody's been too busy teaching Lia that abortion is wrong and has neglected to teach her basic mathematics. Imagine if all those millions of aborted foetuses had been born and grown up to reach a healthy adulthood. Planet Earth would be getting pretty darn crowded by now...
NinthEuphoric 1 year ago
@sblist; those prolifers who may have a little space for other ideas can check out this webiste:
the only moral abortion is my abortion
it is a website about known prolifers who have had abortions at the very abortion clinics they picketed. (they were known to the clinic to be anti-choice.)
yes prolfers have had abortions when they are stuck between a rock & a hard place & then had the gall to picket, etc the very clinics they had an abortion at.
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@canadianskye1964 READ JESUS CHRIST OWN WORDS Jh8:44Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@canadianskye1964 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.rev21:8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.rev.9:21Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. JESUS OWN WORD
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@canadianskye1964 Liar I dont think i am god ,but I KNOW I am HIs BLOOD BOUGHT child and He Gave me HIS righteousness and Jesus my Saviour will be with all the murdered by abortion children in heaven forever, and the Devil and all his followers WILL be cast into hell FOREVER Jesus Said it u or no one else can change it .
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I guarentee all unless you repent and get saved and stop Murdering Children that you are going to have to deal with someone your OWN SIZE and He,s a lot more powerfull" all "powerfull, unstopable and eternal,and the creator of those little ones that you and your father the DEVIL are Murdering ,WILL and u can Mark it down will be cast into HELL F_O R_E_V_E _R. REV21:8. THERE will Be NO BABY KILLERS IN HEAVEN NO WAY IN JESUS NAME
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@canadianskye1964 I Have already cotaced The lord Jesus Christ about the 50MILLION children 9 months and under who have been MURDERED BY ABORTION whom he created and , He told me The devil and his pro-death children who dont repent are going to His Eternal Jail called HELL FOREVER JOHN8:44 revelation 21:8 .
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@737flyhigh hahaha this is hilarious. I almost shat a hedgehog when I read this.
batmanpronz 1 year ago
i guess what the church is true: give me a child until the age of 12 and it will be ours forever. scary!
canadianskye1964 1 year ago
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
@112Wv
Thanks for your religiotard comments!
We always appreciate the lulz!!
jesusisbling 1 year ago
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Besides there will always be wise women who do not need clinics to induce a miscarriage.
jesusisbling 1 year ago
12 gauge...right to the face. I....must....resist.
batmanpronz 1 year ago
What on this green earth does a Canadian 12-yr-old have to do with ignorant right-wing politics in the USofA? And why would any adult in the USofA be remotely interested in what a 12-yr-old has to say about anything, let alone about their own fundamental, human, constitutional rights? Yeesh. Speaks volumes, that does. Ignorant right-wing USAmerican politics, neatly summed up by a child. Well, I enjoyed tea parties when I was her age ...
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
abortion= murder.. prochoice PEOPLE= people who were a FETUS SOMETIME...U SHOULD ASK UR MOTHERS IF U REALLY WERE A ''WANTED BABY'' COLD PEOPLE!
shampiu 1 year ago
@shampiu The answer is no. My mother was also prochoice though, she just decided she might as well.
yellowkrux 1 year ago
Humanist Atheist Secular Feminist Pro-life anti-abortion video:
watch?v=DlMHBXaQWH0
amet1980 1 year ago
Awesome!
madrom12 1 year ago 2
I wonder if this little girl will have the same opinions after a few more years of life experience. As a man raised a Catholic, I am concerned about the propaganda of the pro life movement esp. when men are doing the preaching. If you're a man you have no right telling a woman what to do with her body! I'll say one thing....... if men could have unplanned pregnancies.... the church would make abortion a sacrament!
MEN FOR PRO-CHOICE! STOP THE OPRESSION OF WOMEN!
wjl1970 1 year ago
@wjl1970 This whole focus on the gender of the speaker rather than the argument given smacks of the Bulverism fallacy to me: watch?v=y_6hKiDRsaU
This whole focus on the gender of the speaker is kind of lame considering that the debate is over fetal rights and not over who happens to be giving what argument.
JohananRaatz 1 year ago
it should be pointed out that the bible never once mentions abortion. you christians have no clue how your fictional god feels about abortion (im thinking, after reading the book of hosea, that he's pretty cool with it considering he did it too).
AndyIsAlsoWatergun 1 year ago
Using a 12 yo girl to further their anti choice, anti freedom agenda. what will these religious extremists do next? subjecting a child to the issue of abortion is dispicable. she is not even old enough to fully comprehend what she is talking about. i can only hope she will grow up, get correct information, and think for herself. indoctrinating of children can be quite harmful.
AndyIsAlsoWatergun 1 year ago
Holy shit, I've never seen a 12 year old girl with a punchable face. Until today.
4everluvjc 1 year ago
If you wanna illegalize abortion then you pro-lifers should go up to every single pregnant rape victim and say "you must carry your baby to term"
TheGreatRL 1 year ago
@TheGreatRL did u know only 1.7 percenof abortions are performed because of rape or incemost abortioest? get ur facts strait most abortions target minorites in order to exterminate us . ur founder was a eugenics co founder and that is the sterilazation of a race. abortion is murderether u agree or not. in 3 weeks a fetus can grow arms and legs but yet u still deny it life because it is not a "child" u should look into this more.
drfudge11 1 year ago
@drfudge11 well since its so small of a percentage, it shouldn't be a problem then. Are you willing to go up to that 1.7 percent and say "you must carry your baby to term"? And thats a ridiculous myth that abortion targets minorities. The woman isn't FORCED to getting an abortion. That is ludacrious. Get YOUR facts straight.
TheGreatRL 1 year ago
@drfudge11 1. Learn to communicate properly. 2. The percentage doesn't invalidate his point. Also, a corpse has arms and legs. Your point is invalidated. And let me counter you further, what if you were raped and left pregnant? Would you want to be told you had to carry a reminder of the most painful moment of your life?
silencesoloud12 1 year ago
you go girl!!! Abortion is a murder, a sin...
LABersfan14 1 year ago
@LABersfan14 No, you're just an idiot. Abortions have been going on since the beginning of time and no one ever seemed to care then!
AGR04 1 year ago
@LABersfan14 Lol. I agree. Abortion=Murder
mjt19741 1 year ago
I support abortion. This stupid little bitch is simply echoing the propaganda of Jewish over-populationists. May this bitch be forced to have future abortions, for the sake of wilderness and environmental protection. She sounds American - so she's probably from a really dangerous, stupid Christian religious background.
Richardhedditch261 1 year ago
@Richardhedditch261 No. That little girl did her homework. Where's your research?
mjt19741 1 year ago
@Richardhedditch261 John8:Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it
737flyhigh 1 year ago
And why does a 12 year old girl have the ability to deny a woman the right to do with what she does with her body?
bobplatypus 1 year ago 2
100 percent true young lady ,I agree with you . Jesus Christ calls it MURDER and He has a place for people who will not repent called Hell revelation 21:8. God Bless you ,
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@737flyhigh Jesus never talked about abortion you ass hole! Quit quoting nonexistent Bible verses! Don't you have some gay bashing to do, you horrible Christian?
AGR04 1 year ago
@AGR04 Jesus said in john chapter 8:44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. and in rev 21:8 he sats HE WILL CAST ALL MURDERERS INTO HELL >MARK IT DOWN ITS A FACT AND U CANT CHANGE IT
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@737flyhigh That has nothing to do with abortion. That's all about murder (which abortion is not).
AGR04 1 year ago
@AGR04 God says it is murder He is not a liar .the Devil Is the Bible also talks about False science. people who will not repent will be cast into Hell .and they will deffinitly believe in about 2 seconds into thier eternal liquid lava HELL
737flyhigh 1 year ago
@AGR04 rev 21:But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
737flyhigh 1 year ago
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@canadianskye1964
i dont think she's so arrogant....more than anything, she looks like she was expecting a cookie from mummy and duddy for *passionately* saying what they say LOL
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canadianskye1964 1 year ago
Nuclear weapons, population control and Vegan are the most critical issues from my experiences, research and service in peace corps. Vegetarians reduce world hunger, environment, health care and billions of tortured conscious mammals, fast facts at goveg (dot) com/theissues.asp. Most religions dont oppose factory farms and environment we rely on. Im not that anti putting dogs down painlessly or human sperm, our Population is a huge issue. Prevention best, but welfare no, then adopt them all.
StoptheSlaughtering 1 year ago
Im just so amazed by the fact that this young 12 year-old girl makes more sense than obama. I also find it amazing that many people who voted for him dont relieze he made abortion legal... if you agree vote up.
paramorelove100 1 year ago
@paramorelove100 Yes, pet. And Obma engages in human sacrifice and was born on Jupiter, if I recall correctly. Does it not hurt to be so stupid? It should hurt to be such a liar.
shmiverglass 1 year ago
For a 12 year girl, you are very intelligent. I think abortion should never be used as birth control. About 90% of abortions performed in the U.S. are used as birth control. Therefore in cases like that ABORTION=MURDER.
mjt19741 1 year ago
@mjt19741 It's not murder if it's not a human life. If a fetus was a human being it wouldn't be called a fetus. It'd be called some thing else...like a human being!
AGR04 1 year ago
@AGR04 A fetus is not scientifically classified as human. Which means that it is only classified as a fetus. But it is not proven that a fetus is not human. A babies heartbeat is found as early as 4 weeks into the mothers pregnancy.
The word kill is equal to murder or classified as murder. If you kill a fetus you are murdering a fetus/human.
mjt19741 1 year ago
Lia is very well-spoken for being 12!
alwrig 1 year ago
this young person is quite brilliant. she has a natural quality that has enabled her to deliver a message in an adult-like manner, and does it with such conviction!
you go girl!
tobaiah 2 years ago
A person is not a person no matter how small. In that case, my sperm is a person, because without my sperm there would be no person. That means I kill thousands of children every time I...you know...do it.
dudz40 2 years ago