Chess Mating Patterns Part 2

[Clobalize]

Nice setups

[asddsa76]

Murphy's concealed mate reminds me of the windmill ^^

[TheShon615]

you could sac the bishop too in the first example for the first move,

it turns out basically the same

[Omango99]

6:87 3 knights XD

[Matt101211012]

for the second checkmate why couldnt you just sack the rook on h8 and then bring Qh5 and then Qh7 , instead of sacking 2 rooks then checking with the queen then checkmating

[MrSicknero]

@IHateMyLifeGr; Queen takes Bishop because this leaves Black no choice of moves and must defend against QxP and mate next turn. Taking with Bishop instead would leave Black with choices, e.g. Qc6 to prevent the Morphy's mate.

I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, somebody.

[iHateMyLifeGr]

@3:35 wouldn't it be better to sacrifice the bishop at b2 instead of the queen?

plz reply I wanna know why u sacrificed the queen instead.

[koekjeeee]

Yay, i got all the puzzles! :-)

[stinger131996]

I think that at 6:43 you could actually move your bishop to g5. Then the black queen would most likely take it. After that you simply move your queen to d8, and that's check-mate.

[l11sst]

@thecehsswebsite (or anyone else ;-) - please tell me if I'm totally getting it wrong but why didn't you put the rook on g8 at 4:44 - wouldn't this have been check mate too?

[Mocoohay17]

@l11sst Not quite. The rook would be undefended and the black king could capture it

[TheAlphaGeeks]

@l11sst

Actually I think the King can just take the Rook and thus not be in check anymore... Further inspection of any other moves finds that taking the pawn on F7 is 100% necessary too...

[McGurfle]

On smothered mate, after knight f7 check and king h8, why not knight take rook on d8 with discovered check from queen? if king f8, queen f7 mate. If king h8, queen f8 mate.

Also, will the mating patterns be continued, or was #2 the last one?

Fantastic vids too, keep it up!

[TheFahad112]

Hello kevin,, wanna ask something.

In Morphy's concealed mate, we could have attacked with the bishop first Bg7... it is not a check but the king can neither capture it nor prevent the checkmate from happening in the next move...

Am i right??

[Mocoohay17]

@TheFahad112 That wouldn't actually lead to checkmate. All he would have to do is move his Rook to another square to give his king two squares in which to escape. Not checkmate

[MilitaryMan006]

1:47 After the Initial 1.Rh8+ Kxh8 instead of playing Rh1 white can play 2. Qh5+ Kg8 3.Qh7#

You just sacrifice an extra rook to make yourself look cooler right?

[jtvoittaja]

@MilitaryMan006 Second that, i was wondering too about the unnecessary rook sacrifice :P

[motorhead1995able]

9:42 why the dont we sacrifice the queen right away?

[Efermode]

@motorhead1995able He could have captured our queen with the king instead of a rook

[haggag69]

at 3:40 black queen can move from b7 to g2 and avoid the mate. or am i missing something?

[bednarjozef]

gg ;)

[haggag69]

Great videos

[smitchowdhary]

AT 1:54, you can direct move queen to h5 (followed by Qh7, mate), instead of rook to h1 and sacrificing it...why the long route??

[Samulise]

I never really thought of the smothered check.

Knights are a lot more useful than I thought since I never really noticed that they don't need a line of sight.

[zanderboy31]

in number 2 of this (01:02) why don't you just move the queen to h5 after the move 1. Rh8, Kxh8 2. Qh5

[aravindcruiser]

Nice Learning platform. Thanks for spending ur time

[lalaMisca]

1:55 its faster if you bring the queen directly to h5 instead of doing the move of rook h1. I dont see any difference except that its mate 1 move faster

[meepsss]

@lalaMisca Queen is able to take bishop, although black would be down pieces, he would not be in checkmate.

[Fanggle]

woo i beat a player with a smothered mate (finaly) I knew that thing would have been handy. If i wouldn't had knew about it it would probably end in a draw :D

[Turkey892]

at 2:00 can white not play Qb3#? or am i missing something.. great videos, they're helping me alot!

[MrCumdroppings101]

@Turkey892 black blocks with Qf7 :)

[xrigeorge]

@Turkey892 black can either Rf7 of Qf7

[danbark3]

3:40 for morphy's mate, after Qxf6, black can go Qg2

[slaytesics]

at 2:34 why not just queen to H5 beforehand?

[nate8910]

at 9:36 if you move the white knight to g7 would it be checkmate?

[Diviniteee]

Oh man the smothered mate is a beauty!

[ysa722]

why did he have to sacrifice his rooks in the first place? why not simply move queen to h5?

[MrLineriderguy]

@ysa722 wondered the same thing, but it really doesn't matter, you can win either way.

[evildude109]

He had to sacrifice both rooks so that the king would have to keep moving. If he did Qh5 first, the black queen would have an opportunity to check before the white queen.

[kudt654]

@evildude109 But why not 1. Rh8 Kxh8 2. Qh5+ Kg8 3. Qh7# I really don't understand ...

[Diviniteee]

@evildude109 Instead of the second rook sacrifice, the queen CAN directly go to h5 because it will result in a check and when the king goes back to g8, it will be mate

[LordKira53]

so this is basically a windmill tactic right?

[rajkumarsanpui]

In the mating patterns shown at 02:22, why bring the queen at the end? At 01:35 itself we can bring the queen to h5 and mate in next move.

[kudt654]

@rajkumarsanpui I was thinking the same thing, but then I saw that the black queen could come to e5 and start checking the king. Then things could get messy ;) What I dont understand is why he sacrificed both his rooks ...

[UnivWiscLaXChess]

Just food for thought, but why during the Damiano's Mate (at 1:28) were both rooks sacrificed? After ... Kxh8, isn't playing Qh5+ followed by Qh7# more to the point? I understand both are forced mates, but why take 2 extra moves to do it?

[goadabogdan]

Hy, nice work, and good vids.

for the sake of argument, At 3.41 black can still defend the mate with Qg2, but after Bd4 any black response loses to Rg1.

[MrMegaChips]

Why at 1:55 the queen can't go to h5 before sacrificing the second rook?

Did I miss something or you just sacrificed one more rook to have more fun?

[oemzazri]

the second rook sacrifice taking place at 1:58 was actually unnecessary, because at that point white could simply move his queen to h5 and achieve a quicker mate :)

[nikobrown1990]

at 9:39 i would just move queen to g8 immediatly instead of fiddleing about, then the rook still has to take it and after that ur knight is still in a position for mate

[nikobrown1990]

@nikobrown1990 thnkx for the vids btw, 5*ed and subbed =], keep it up these are really helpful, both you and "jrobi" hav some amazing vids

[badoli]

@nikobrown1990 No, that won't work, as in that position, the king still can take the rook, as the queen is not protected by the knight.

1: Qe6 Kh8 2: Qg8 Kxg8 :-(

[nikobrown1990]

oh yes, my mistake, thnkx

[qwixxer]

@nikobrown1990 retard... Qg8+?? kxg8

[wolffox008]

At 4:34 Why didnt you put your BF7 instead of taking the g7 pond with the rook.

[theJagaJazzist]

@wolffox008 because it would be a draw ... the king would have no space to move to apart from into check.

[RoyalDevil3]

awesome video!!!

[btejedor]

ok, i checked out the older comments, sorry

[btejedor]

at the first example, why did you sacrifice the second rook? with Qh5+ Kg8 Qh7#

[calvinhobbesliker2]

At 7:52, were there actually 3 black knights in the game?

[thechesswebsite]

haha yes, my mistake, you were paying attention, i like it :)

[calvinhobbesliker2]

I'm assuming the knight on e4 is the one that started on g8, right?

[thechesswebsite]

yes

[Zelrio28]

Sorry; I just now read the older comments.

[Zelrio28]

At 1:53 or so, why move the rook in, rather than Qh5?

[Rapidfire220]

Ye thats what I was thinking; the second rook sacrifice is not needed.

[Sheakmate]

In the real life application of Damiano's Mate its actually Mate in 3 because u can move Queen to h5 after the first rook sacrifice and go in for the mate, no need for the extra rook sacrifice....

otherwise Great vid, helped a lot Thanks

[SuperNatural007]

Hi thechesswebsite,

The first matting pattern in this video can be found in your "Fishing Pole" video. Thanks for that video and all of the others thechesswebsite.

 - Supernatural

[beegburd]

i always have this reoccurring problem!

I can get my opponent down to nothing except his king and i have like.. 3 pawns, a rook and a bishop or knight. from there i try to checkmate the king but then the game ends in a stalemate ( which is a tie where i am)

any tips on how to checkmate that damn king?

[dreamtheater39]

the best chess website ever! you've got the best videos organized beautifully!

thanks kev...cheers!

[arkbird23]

....AWESOME CONTENT...

really good explanation too. Don't mind but frankly since all the examples had a queen sac, it was very predictable in the end...but neverthless GREAT VIDEO..... you can also check out my chess tactics vids on bishop forks....arkbird23

[Yonnu1992]

Thanks alot.Btw you don't have to sacrifice the second rook.After you sacrifice your first rook you can check the king with your queen at h5 and then queen to h7 checkmate.

[2freet]

@Yonnu1992 I think he knew that, he just wanted to show how sacrificing even two rooks can be ok :]

[MoPar7055]

@Yonnu1992 I agree, what was the point of sacrificing the second rook?

[Yonnu1992]

@MoPar7055 Rook(the second rook) to h1 is an inaccurate move.But if you move the rook to h1,you have to sacrifice the rook to force the mate.If you don't sacrifice it and you move your queen to h5,he can take your bishop with his queen and escape from the mate threat.

[Aleneden]

Hey, thanks man, every since you opened up this website, i've been getter better and better and better, I think you've taught me more than i've ever learned about Chess, in my life. Thanks Alot.

[thechesswebsite]

you=the reason I put vids up

[donotstab]

fundamentally

[donotstab]

on a side note lol i just had a highschool tournament today and went 3.5 for 5 ...and everyone always does a queen gambit opening ... what would be a good black opening ive been using the french ?

[thechesswebsite]

are you looking for fundamentally sound or you looking for something a little more risky?

[donotstab]

i love you and the website

[thechesswebsite]

and I and the website love you.

[elgrajedita]

hi! I was wondering about a couple of moves you made in the first pattern of this video, I think that after sacrificing the first rook you can move your queen to h5, it will also check on the king and in the next move you can check mate, it will be the same result, but you will win in less moves and with an extra rook

[thechesswebsite]

yeah ur exactly right. some other people have pointed out the same thing.  I forgot to put a pawn blocking the queen move diagonally but you are exactly correct. very good observation.

[Spaceball2000]

Thanks for another great video! All of your videos have been insightful, but I particularly find tactical videos like this one to be the most helpful. Anyway, just wanted to chime in and let you know that I appreciate the effort you're putting into these. Very well done!

[thechesswebsite]

Thanks for the kind words. Also saw from your channel that ur a SC fan. Probably one of the greatest games ever made.

[xavier2nikos]

Here is one of my recent games. i was white. beautiful ending. 1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Qxd5 3.Nc3 Qd8 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bc4 h6 6.d4 Na5 7.Bd3 Nf6 8.O-O e6 9.Re1 Bb4 10.Bd2 O-O 11.Ne5 a6 12.a3 Bd6 13.Ne4 b5 14.Bxa5 Rb8 15.Bd2 Bb7 16.Nxf6+ Qxf6 17.Nd7 Qxd4 18.Nxf8 Qxb2 19.Nd7 Rd8 20.Rb1 Qxa3 21.Bxh6 Rxd7 22.Qg4 g6 23.Bxg6 fxg6 24.Qxg6+ Kh8 25.Rxe6 Qa2 26.Re8+ Bf8 27.Rxf8+ Qg8 28.Rxg8#

[thechesswebsite]

very nice, he thought his queen was helping by attacking your queen side, but really he was taking his queen out of the action. Then you just blew up his kingside. Great game. Very good eye seeing that you had the pieces in the right place to finish the game if you attacked.

[SkylanSaiber]

On your smother mate set up, correct me if I'm wrong, but I see another mate besides smothered mate (not that it matters, though).

White: Qe6, Black: Kh8, White: Nf7, Black: Kg8, White: Nd8, Black: Kh8, White: Qe8#

This thought pattern of mine, however, would explain why I've never gotten a smothered mate on anyone myself, though. I'll try getting one now with your demonstration. Love the series, love the site!

[thechesswebsite]

you are exactly correct. Great observation. 

Glad to hear you enjoy the site.

[xavier2nikos]

good video, btw you said morphy was a ""great mind" for chess no doubt, but wasnt he technicallly insane?

[thechesswebsite]

aren't we all a little insane?

[xavier2nikos]

of course!!! Don't let the psychiatrist hear that though.

[deathmonger0]

wait at 1:36 couldn't you just move your queen to B3 and it would be check mate also.

[haluceN8]

no queen and rook can get in way to save from mate and giving king another escape square

[robobrain10000]

when u mov the rook to H8 the first time.. thnn u can mov the queen to H5 and thn mate.. (reduces 1 step..)

[thechesswebsite]

yeah ur def right, i think someone else mentioned that, too. I meant to put a pawn on e2 but great observation.

[robobrain10000]

lol i didnt read the other comments. lol

[fadithedog]

could make a video on starting game moves.

[jrdudedj]

That last move is good, i'm going to start practicing it on my Chess Titan game. Thanks for the tutorial

[Davisdigi]

lol 7:10 has 3 knights without any reason

[jsplayer18]

you didnt even need to move Rh1, Qh5 would have done the same job.

[thechesswebsite]

you're def right. I thought I put a pawn on e2 but I didn't. Good observation.