Berserk - Griffith & Charlotte

[Blue2630]

Payback rape

[EffroyableMat]

Griffith after doing Charlotte: worth it.

Griffith after being tortured beyond recognition: totally not worth it.

[JoeZeon100]

Had griffith just kept his dick in his fucking pants, all this bad shit wouldn't have happened!!!

[x10dm88]

@JoeZeon100 griffiths plan was always to do charlotte from the very start, had guts not left then non of this would have happened, but hey, guts is still awsome no matter what

[opiman607]

GRIFFITH RAPE!!!!

[Charox5]

I hate Charlotte -_-

[AceKylar]

i don't know Grif has a dick = =

[FreezingStorm]

das hawt

[Tetsuokame]

lol at 0:51 hes like: "alright let me take a break, now im back LETS DO THIS"

[nappyheaded]

I know Griffith slept with the King's daughter and all but he did do alot for the kingdom of Midland. He didn't deserve to be tortured and mutilated.

[Kyuka]

@nappyheaded

The king had a thing for his own daughter, it wasn't really the fact he slept with her, it was that the king wanted to sleep with her.

[nappyheaded]

@Kyuka

are you saying in the manga the king had a thing for his own daughter?

[Kyuka]

@nappyheaded

ah yea... sorry I didn't watch the anime XD I only read it but... I guess the manga is more twisted XDDDD

[quillaja]

I'd hit dat princess too.

[RadicalPayne]

griffith is gay in love with gats.

[littlesaiyan]

Yeah she was an awkward young woman who thought of Griffith as a super hero and she was his "ladder" to power

[brownnoice]

Charlotte was just a tool.

[ualreadyknew]

lol, I was so convinced that Griffith was a fag before I saw this scene. After that I figured that he most likely "swung both ways". At least until he became Femto.

[Iishieboo]

My friends and I have a running gag of Griffith asking Guts to discuss "battle plans"... in the tent....nude...

The joke has been condensed into simply saying "battle plans" whenever Griffith and Guts are together.

But yeah. I figured Griffith had the hots for Guts the whole time. I figured he only slept with Charlotte with the hopes that she would marry him out of her own infatuation or shame of being deflowered before marriage... as that's how things worked back in the day.

[Uberaoshi]

So this what that Closet case Griffiths does to pretend that he is straight. We know he took it up the ass (he was a man-whore and was fucked by the priest/bishop guy that he later killed). Griffiths is in love with Guts.

[SkyExplosion]

You're a idiot Griffith doesn't love Gatts. Griffith is all about goal. Gatts was the stoongest person he saw so Griffith knew Gatts would e able to hlep him become king quicker and Griffith slept with Charlotte for Comfort/it was his only way to become king to bed a princess.

[Uberaoshi]

But Griffith let that gay-bishop or priest "F*ck him up the A-hole for money.

[beautycharmaine]

do you think Griffith love Charlotte at all? since he came to see her at the lowest point of his emotion.

[loner1878]

somehow I think yes in some way. There's a scene in the manga after Charlotte wakes up she finds the magnet amulet she gave to Griffith next to her with a flower that is supposed to signify eternal love. Besides they're pretty much together in the current manga.

[Infantcide]

I've read an interesting essay about why Griffith came to Charlotte the day Guts left him (you can google it easy). Read it and see what you think.

[loner1878]

I think someone has too much free time.

[Infantcide]

That I do, sir.

[Uberaoshi]

Griffith is bi!

He really want Guts more than any chick!

[Gramra]

Essay, huh?

Where can I find it?

[ObeyBunnypop]

probably not. he came to see her hoping she would somehow distract him from the loss he just experienced, and to help him focus on his dream, she's his tool. it didn't work. otherwise he wouldn't still be a miserable wreck after making out with her.

[SkyExplosion]

Well he had to bed Charlotte to get closer to becoming King. Though since Charlotte's Dad wanted her Griffith got caught and tortured. However when Griffith comes back he saves Charlotte from being raped by a demon King and takes her with him.

[Uberaoshi]

You swear that Griffth has no "yaoi-ish" feelings for Gutts?

[SkyExplosion]

Yeah I do. Plus the whole reason Griffith did that again was because all he sees is his goal. He stated he would lose way to many people and it would take to long and too many loses if he didn't.

Griffith even stated he had no feeling for him and that he only needed the money.Saying Griffith is gay beecause of that is like saying Gatts is gay because Gatts got raped as a kid.

Also in the manga when Griffith says he wants Gatts Gatts ask Griffith if he is gay and Griffith states no.

[Uberaoshi]

WTF when was guts raped as a kid that never happened in the incomplete anime TV series. Did that happen in the comic? And Griffith was a male prostitute (he was desperate and willing) so that makes him gay because he was the uke("receiver", "the catcher", the girl/bitch).

[SkyExplosion]

First off you can''t anything from the anime. Second Gatts was raped for in the manga second Griffith isn't gay if you want to go by your rules then why did he fuck Casca and Charlotte if he was gay he wouldn't have done either. Plus its been said more than once Griffith and Charlotte are lovers even after Charlotte has no connection to the throne anymore.

[Uberaoshi]

its unfortunate that Griffith wasnt voiced by a woman. Gutts stayed straight but Griffiths is bisexual or gay!

[SkyExplosion]

You says Gatts stayed straight how do you know Griffith isn't hmm? They both ende dup fucking Casca and Griffith takes Charlotte as a lover. Your knowledge makes little to no sense based on the anime that leaves out so much its a joke. I'm tired of a pointless conversation think what you want i'm done.

[TheRealDEATHERON]

yeah I agree with you, SkyExplosions right dude. although of coarse I think Griffith did love guts just in the brotherly way though. no gay shit

[ObeyBunnypop]

1. Griffith fucked Caska for revenge, to get back at Gatts for leaving him, not because he was attracted to her, or he would of fucked her earlier in the series.

2. Griffith doesn't truly love Charlotte, he never has nor will he ever. and if by 'takes Charlotte as a lover' you mean, deflowers her then sits next to her unconscious body, miserably moping about the loss of Gatts silently, then I reckon you're right.

[SkyExplosion]

I never said Griffith was attracted to Caska and you must not read the manga because you have no idea what i'm talking about.

[ObeyBunnypop]

I did read the manga actually, I'm wondering if you read the same thing, it's blindingly obvious that Griffith has no attraction to her whatsoever.

[SkyExplosion]

I did read the manga. I never said Griffith was attracted or in love with anyone but he still saved Charlotte when there was no point for him too and he is not attracted to Caska since Griffith is her "son" stp that would too wierd.

[Pimpmastahanhduece]

he had to save her for his line to become recognized royalty. after he stops shiva, charlette commands all her loyal subjects to hand over authority to him. and for some who were reluctant, only serve him because of that.

[SkyExplosion]

Griffith didn't need tem he had dozens of the most powerful demons at his disposal not to mention Zodd.

[Pimpmastahanhduece]

so why didnt he just wipe out shiva himself with his demons? he may not NEED them, but apparently he wants to be recognized as royalty and have human subjects as well. without her, he wouldnt have asked humans to fight shiva or even be in the neo band of the hawk

[SkyExplosion]

So your saying everything Griffith does is for royality what about letting people talk to their loved ones before they die Griffith "cares" somewhat because of fusing with Caskas kid.

[Pimpmastahanhduece]

dont you get how griffith makes people loyal? to the people he's a commoner and the hawk and leader of a really good mercenary group. whether its his no discrimination multianthrospecies mercinary camps, or some little thing he can do to since becoming femto. he basically uses everyone as a pawn by making them love him.

[kelmorian178]

'since Griffith is her "son" '

Explain this part please.

[SkyExplosion]

When Femto sends Griffith back to Earth to restatr the Hwk this Behelit Egg body sees Caska's deformed kid and sort of swallows it and Griffith uses that body to be reborn.

[kelmorian178]

Are you saying that Griffith and Femto are two different entities? In the manga, we saw Griffith been resurrected as Femto.

[SkyExplosion]

Trying not to ruin too much but Femto is a God Griffith is a man.

Femto sent Griffith back.

It is like this

Griffith became Femto, Griffith no longer existed.

Femto sent Griffith back as Griffith, Femto no longer exists anymore is the best way to explain it without ruining it.

[kelmorian178]

I have read the manga to the point Guts and his gangs have met Griffith';s boyscout, plus an rampage in the wedding. So Femto is the Demon co-existing within Griffith.

[coifgx]

@SkyExplosion i have read the manga up to the latest point so feel free to spoil as much as you wish. I thought griffith became femto and is just returning to earth in a human form in order to gain everyones favour and not look like a demon. where does it say griffith is not femto.

[bobleroythejazzman]

@coifgx no femto is griffth without a soul when griffith comes back he is the same its just that he has resolved to follow his dream no matter what

[vgeuc69]

@coifgx True. Griffith is no longer the same..he is still the demon Femto, just a refined version, the "Absolute" as he calls himself..

[littlesaiyan]

I sorta thought that child was Gatt's kid because when skull knight showed him the deformed child he said it was his son to gutts but when griffith/femto raped caska the baby became inpure and demonic but it having a small piece of Griffith's essence or power it was a suitable vessel fro him to use to re-enter into our world

[jollybaby18]

@SkyExplosion what do you mean there was no point for griffith to save charlotte? Griffith can not be king without her. He needs her because if he gets with her she will gave him the kingdom of midland. She so obsessed with himshe will do whatever he wants.

[Pimpmastahanhduece]

ur right, its very clear he has no attraction to charlette. i dont know if he's in love with casca, but i know he's attracted to her and/or confused about it. its clear he's jealous when he sees guts and casca together. plus he had to have had at least a platonic love for casca and even guts for them to be acceptable sacrifices.

[littlesaiyan]

yeah but Griffith might just need a queen you know instead of walking all of Midland with a glass slipper to find his Cinderella also I believe this is just me he raped Caska cause he knew he would get Gutts mad cause he was already helpless 1 eyed and 1 armed held down in a pool of blood seeing your girlfriend getting raped would just top it all :0

[SkyExplosion]

Yeah But Femto/Griffith are two Seperate personalities with how Griffith regarded nobles and how Caska was almost raped by someone with more power which disgusted Griffith it seemed to out of character for him. Though for a Demon seems just right cause in Berserk the demons are all about rape. But Griffith seems to care for Charlotte actually when hes reborn anyway because he no longer needs her to be kind he has enough power but he protects her regardless.

[parag3247]

wtathe hell have you been watching?....and Griffith is not a prostetute

[akabj]

griffith was all mad cuz gutts beat him so he had to go beat up some pussy and make him feel more like a man an not like the little bitch gutts made him look like

[akabj]

why so many thumbs down, i think thats a pretty accurate assumption of why Griffith went to Charlotte

[LestatduLioncourt666]

Griffith no la quería, solo la usó u_u de amor.. y que bonito...nada

[dd78ca]

wow!!

what 's this song?beautiful:-)

[RuxxCrimsonSunset]

well, the episodes i've used are 18 and 19 but I don't know the author of the song. It is in the background of the 18th episode and I've found it as "queen's funeral". I hope you'll find it too. I'm glad you like it.

[Tatacchan]

I forgot.. could you tell me who's the author of the song please?

[Limersztyn]

susumu hirasawa

[Tatacchan]

thank you so much :)

[Tatacchan]

ahhh so beautifulll

From which episode is this taken please?

Oh and the song is just wonderful.. I can't seem to find it anywhere though. :( *tear*