@Longrangeshooter78 In this video, I am trimming more because I am using the cases as jackets while swaging my own bullets. If I were trimming these cases for reloading, I would have used the collet.
how long do your cutter heads last i have read not to use a high speed drill or it dulls them very fast im using a power screwdriver it turns about 175 rpm max,are you also using carbide or steel cutting head great vid thanks.
@MegaTim1971 I am using the steel cutting head. So far, it has not dulled. I have used this to remove quite a bit of brass so that I could use the brass for jackets on swaging my own.
I have not used in quite sometime now. All of my reloading equipment is temp. boxed up in storage. I am working on a new location for my reloading.
@coltbuntline These particular cases that I was trimming at the time were not for reloading. Instead, I was trimming these to the size I needed to be used as jackets for swaging. I would trim the 40 cases to a certain length for a certain weight. then I would take a certain weight lead core so that when combined, I would have the grain jacketed bullet I wanted. Quick run into swage die, I had a jacketed bullet now.
@gruntspy44 These 40 smith and wessen cases I am trimming them to be used as jacket for bullets. I do not reload 40 smith and wesson as i don't have a gun in that caliber. They make a great jacket for my 44 magnum and 45 acp
@gruntspy44 I picked mine up in a yardsale. There are 2 types. You have the one with the carbide cutter which is more expensive. Mine is the plain Jane and have seen them from 64-75 bucks. Your best price will be from Midsouth Shooters Supply online. Be sure to check the pilots to make sure it will work for your cases. You can order different pilots. I know Midway Usa has other pilots for individual sales...
@LRooster4Prez In this video, what I am doing is trimming the pistol cases to use as a jacket for the bullets that I am making at home. Placing a cast lead core into these 40 cases then run through a die to form a jacketed bullet.
Are you depriming your brass when placing them into the lock collar? It has to settle into the flash hole then lock in place. I usually slide the case into the holder and slide the cutter to the mouth and push on it while I lock the case into place. Give that a try.
@daywalker627 yes they are deprimed. That's where your video got interesting I understand why you are trimming yours down after watching the other video's. It's no wonder you bought the power cutter. I have about 50 cases I want to shorten 3/10's of an inch.
@LRooster4Prez Let me know how that works for ya. If that does not work, we will look at another part of it. We should get it working for ya no problem..
@daywalker627 I got it fixed. Had to take the chuck and shaft apart and use an empty case for a gage and reinstalled it. Now to get the power adapter..
@LRooster4Prez Ah great to hear. I am sorry I did not know about that part. Thinking back on it now, I guess I should have mentioned that I bought my trimmer, minus the power adapter, from a yard sale. I guess the previous owner had already gaged it. Thanks for sharing. Definatly know what to look for when I decide to get a second one. One dedicated to case trimming and one dedicated for trimming cases for swaging...
@AngelusFromHell There is a stop collar. You would take an already properly trimmed case, set it in the holder. You would then advance the ram to touch the case mouth. On the right side of the trimmer, there is 2 stop collars. You loosen the allen screw and simply slide the collar against the trimmer and tighten it down. In this video, I am trimming brass to make bullet jackets out of for swaging.
@SergeantBrownHole I don't see any reason why you couldn't. I don't have lathe (yet) to test it and see. If you have a Lee case length gauge and trimmer, you may be able to chuck the shellholder from lee into the jaws for quicker loading and unloading of your brass....
@blainenay you are correct. Trim before annealing. The cases are way too soft after annealing to trim. I have tried it and more or less twisted the mounth and just plain buggard them up. Are you still getting yours stuck on the punches??
DW you mention the cutter getting dull. Are you using the carbide cutter? The carbide cutter is rather expensive and has poor reviews on Midwayusa. I wonder if there is a Titanium Nitride (TiNi) coated cutter available that may stay sharp longer. I did not see one at Midwayusa, maybe an aftermarket maker has one. Great video and great idea BTW. I see a lot of Blazer .40 S&W aluminum cases in the trash at the local range, and have been pondering a use for them.
@scorge30 I bought my lyman universal case trimmer at a yard sale. I believe the version I have is the 64 bucks one where the lyman universal carbide case trimmer is 84 bucks. I believe the only difference is the carbide cutter?? The 2 pack of the plain cutter head is 12.99. I would love to see if there is a TiNi version. We will have to see how long this brand new cutter head last. I have been looking at testing the aluminum cases. I just don't have any. Being teflon coated, should not hurt?
@scorge30 Prob with aluminum, it becomes like sandpaper when it oxides. I feel that the teflon coating would protect you from the aluminum oxide. Have not had any defintate testing to prove that theroy. I would personlly like to use the aluminum cases that I have fired as the teflon coating from laying around at the range with weather could possibly scratched which would oxidise. Also, not sure if annealing the aluminum case would take away the teflon coating?? May not need to anneal it??
@bigbuckjeff1 Thanks for the kind words and support!! Will have more vids really soon I hope. Just have to order a couple more things to complete a coming up project!!
@fusil56300 Oh man that really bites :-( Sorry to hear. Keep your eyes peeled, might not get as good of a deal as that one, but they are worth their weight in gold...
Nice idea. I bet it cuts the brass perfectly square. Some times when we cut the brass on that little harbor freight chop saw it doesn't cut square and the brass looks wavy against the lead. You got the right idea though let the tools do the work.
@spinesales You are correct. That is one reason I wanted to find another way to cut my brass. I have some that chopped up on the chop saw, after final swaging, the lead flows over the uneven part giving it that look of a chunk of brass is missing. This way, you get a much more even cut. Also, I have noticed that the majority of these, testing with my finger, feels chamfered as well. There is some that needs cleaning up. I just annealed 200 cases for my 45s :)
@scorge30 Nope no reason at all except that until now it never dawned on me to use one. Thanks. I was just so happy to be able to use it finally and that it made trimming my brass a bit better, that I over looked that one important tool that came with the trimmer for that very reason... Good eye...
@NicNac629 Works really well. I will have to buy cutter heads as these will dull after a while im sure. But thats ok. Money well spent. I am keeping count to see how many cases it takes to dull it.
@MrM2hb I do love this trimmer. I use this trimmer for all my brass. I started out with the lee case length, then picked this up at a yard sale. I do not believe it will do a 50 BMG unfortunatly. I believe 45-70 may be the biggest?? I will look into it find out for sure. However, I am pretty positive no go for the 50 BMG. For all other calibers, yea I would have no prob recommending this trimmer.
@MrM2hb per Lyman's website, this trimmer is good for .17-.458 calabers with no further attachments to buy. I would recommend the drill attachment as well.
why not use the collet while trimming?
Longrangeshooter78 2 months ago
@Longrangeshooter78 In this video, I am trimming more because I am using the cases as jackets while swaging my own bullets. If I were trimming these cases for reloading, I would have used the collet.
daywalker627 2 months ago
how long do your cutter heads last i have read not to use a high speed drill or it dulls them very fast im using a power screwdriver it turns about 175 rpm max,are you also using carbide or steel cutting head great vid thanks.
MegaTim1971 4 months ago
@MegaTim1971 I am using the steel cutting head. So far, it has not dulled. I have used this to remove quite a bit of brass so that I could use the brass for jackets on swaging my own.
I have not used in quite sometime now. All of my reloading equipment is temp. boxed up in storage. I am working on a new location for my reloading.
daywalker627 4 months ago
Thanks! I have a Lyman and didn't even realize the adapter was that simple & cheap.
Good video!
doylerhill 6 months ago
@doylerhill Your welcome. It is an awesome adapter!!
daywalker627 6 months ago
Hello Why do you leave the primer in the case when trimming?
Thanks
coltbuntline 7 months ago
@coltbuntline These particular cases that I was trimming at the time were not for reloading. Instead, I was trimming these to the size I needed to be used as jackets for swaging. I would trim the 40 cases to a certain length for a certain weight. then I would take a certain weight lead core so that when combined, I would have the grain jacketed bullet I wanted. Quick run into swage die, I had a jacketed bullet now.
Thanks for watching
daywalker627 7 months ago
hey Day walker what pilot do I need for 50 ae and r500 magnums?
gruntspy44 8 months ago
@gruntspy44 I'm not really sure. I will have to look up the pilots to see...
daywalker627 8 months ago
havent talked to you in awhile brother... still love your custom 44 ammo. very cool
gruntspy44 8 months ago
I will do thanks
gruntspy44 1 year ago
So what are you doing to these cases? theres not way the case stretched that much.... are you making a short load for something?
gruntspy44 1 year ago
@gruntspy44 These 40 smith and wessen cases I am trimming them to be used as jacket for bullets. I do not reload 40 smith and wesson as i don't have a gun in that caliber. They make a great jacket for my 44 magnum and 45 acp
daywalker627 1 year ago
please explain this in a video. Im very very very curious
gruntspy44 1 year ago
@gruntspy44 If you visit my channel page, I have quite a few videos made on this subject. Definatly interesting to say the least...
daywalker627 1 year ago
what kind of money we talking ? I need to trim some 50ae
gruntspy44 1 year ago
@gruntspy44 I picked mine up in a yardsale. There are 2 types. You have the one with the carbide cutter which is more expensive. Mine is the plain Jane and have seen them from 64-75 bucks. Your best price will be from Midsouth Shooters Supply online. Be sure to check the pilots to make sure it will work for your cases. You can order different pilots. I know Midway Usa has other pilots for individual sales...
daywalker627 1 year ago
after trimming 20 casings I understand the need to call Midway and order the power cutter. :)
LRooster4Prez 1 year ago
@LRooster4Prez Oh yea, it can become a must really quick. That knurled handle can really eat your fingers up..
daywalker627 1 year ago
you don't use a pilot? I bought one but can't get the brass to lock in the chuck any ideal what is wrong
LRooster4Prez 1 year ago
@LRooster4Prez In this video, what I am doing is trimming the pistol cases to use as a jacket for the bullets that I am making at home. Placing a cast lead core into these 40 cases then run through a die to form a jacketed bullet.
Are you depriming your brass when placing them into the lock collar? It has to settle into the flash hole then lock in place. I usually slide the case into the holder and slide the cutter to the mouth and push on it while I lock the case into place. Give that a try.
daywalker627 1 year ago
@daywalker627 yes they are deprimed. That's where your video got interesting I understand why you are trimming yours down after watching the other video's. It's no wonder you bought the power cutter. I have about 50 cases I want to shorten 3/10's of an inch.
LRooster4Prez 1 year ago
@LRooster4Prez Let me know how that works for ya. If that does not work, we will look at another part of it. We should get it working for ya no problem..
daywalker627 1 year ago
@daywalker627 Thanks I will... your swagged bullet videos are interesting thanks for sharing
LRooster4Prez 1 year ago
@LRooster4Prez Hope it works out. Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching.
daywalker627 1 year ago
@daywalker627 I got it fixed. Had to take the chuck and shaft apart and use an empty case for a gage and reinstalled it. Now to get the power adapter..
LRooster4Prez 1 year ago
@LRooster4Prez Ah great to hear. I am sorry I did not know about that part. Thinking back on it now, I guess I should have mentioned that I bought my trimmer, minus the power adapter, from a yard sale. I guess the previous owner had already gaged it. Thanks for sharing. Definatly know what to look for when I decide to get a second one. One dedicated to case trimming and one dedicated for trimming cases for swaging...
daywalker627 1 year ago
Hi daywalker! How you choose the case lenght? Is there any stop pin or anything similar?
AngelusFromHell 1 year ago
@AngelusFromHell There is a stop collar. You would take an already properly trimmed case, set it in the holder. You would then advance the ram to touch the case mouth. On the right side of the trimmer, there is 2 stop collars. You loosen the allen screw and simply slide the collar against the trimmer and tighten it down. In this video, I am trimming brass to make bullet jackets out of for swaging.
daywalker627 1 year ago
@daywalker627 Very thanks! It seems a good system, very nice. I hope to buy it soon! Have a nice day!
AngelusFromHell 1 year ago
@AngelusFromHell You will enoy it. I would suggest also the drill adapter for doing larger quanitys.. Your welcome....
daywalker627 1 year ago
Can I do this on an engine lathe?
Good video sir
SergeantBrownHole 1 year ago
@SergeantBrownHole I don't see any reason why you couldn't. I don't have lathe (yet) to test it and see. If you have a Lee case length gauge and trimmer, you may be able to chuck the shellholder from lee into the jaws for quicker loading and unloading of your brass....
daywalker627 1 year ago
I assume you're trimming before you anneal. Correct? Have you tried annealing before trimming?
blainenay 1 year ago
@blainenay you are correct. Trim before annealing. The cases are way too soft after annealing to trim. I have tried it and more or less twisted the mounth and just plain buggard them up. Are you still getting yours stuck on the punches??
daywalker627 1 year ago
DW you mention the cutter getting dull. Are you using the carbide cutter? The carbide cutter is rather expensive and has poor reviews on Midwayusa. I wonder if there is a Titanium Nitride (TiNi) coated cutter available that may stay sharp longer. I did not see one at Midwayusa, maybe an aftermarket maker has one. Great video and great idea BTW. I see a lot of Blazer .40 S&W aluminum cases in the trash at the local range, and have been pondering a use for them.
scorge30 1 year ago
@scorge30 I bought my lyman universal case trimmer at a yard sale. I believe the version I have is the 64 bucks one where the lyman universal carbide case trimmer is 84 bucks. I believe the only difference is the carbide cutter?? The 2 pack of the plain cutter head is 12.99. I would love to see if there is a TiNi version. We will have to see how long this brand new cutter head last. I have been looking at testing the aluminum cases. I just don't have any. Being teflon coated, should not hurt?
daywalker627 1 year ago
@scorge30 Prob with aluminum, it becomes like sandpaper when it oxides. I feel that the teflon coating would protect you from the aluminum oxide. Have not had any defintate testing to prove that theroy. I would personlly like to use the aluminum cases that I have fired as the teflon coating from laying around at the range with weather could possibly scratched which would oxidise. Also, not sure if annealing the aluminum case would take away the teflon coating?? May not need to anneal it??
daywalker627 1 year ago
Nice video. Keep them coming.
thanks
bigbuckjeff1 1 year ago
@bigbuckjeff1 Thanks for the kind words and support!! Will have more vids really soon I hope. Just have to order a couple more things to complete a coming up project!!
daywalker627 1 year ago
Salut DW, great video. Thanks for the info. I didnt get that LYMAN 450, sold 10mins before I rang him!!!!!! :-(
fusil56300 1 year ago
@fusil56300 Oh man that really bites :-( Sorry to hear. Keep your eyes peeled, might not get as good of a deal as that one, but they are worth their weight in gold...
daywalker627 1 year ago
☆☆☆☆☆
007TheReaper007 1 year ago
Nice idea. I bet it cuts the brass perfectly square. Some times when we cut the brass on that little harbor freight chop saw it doesn't cut square and the brass looks wavy against the lead. You got the right idea though let the tools do the work.
spinesales 1 year ago
@spinesales You are correct. That is one reason I wanted to find another way to cut my brass. I have some that chopped up on the chop saw, after final swaging, the lead flows over the uneven part giving it that look of a chunk of brass is missing. This way, you get a much more even cut. Also, I have noticed that the majority of these, testing with my finger, feels chamfered as well. There is some that needs cleaning up. I just annealed 200 cases for my 45s :)
daywalker627 1 year ago
DW is there a reason you are not using a collet? Would seem to take some of the wobble out.
scorge30 1 year ago
@scorge30 Nope no reason at all except that until now it never dawned on me to use one. Thanks. I was just so happy to be able to use it finally and that it made trimming my brass a bit better, that I over looked that one important tool that came with the trimmer for that very reason... Good eye...
daywalker627 1 year ago
Dw, that made quick work of a boring job, thanks for the tip
birdhunter67 1 year ago
DW, great Idea for trimming down your brass for swagging bullets, vs the other way you were doing it. Seems quicker and a bit safer.
NicNac629 1 year ago
@NicNac629 Works really well. I will have to buy cutter heads as these will dull after a while im sure. But thats ok. Money well spent. I am keeping count to see how many cases it takes to dull it.
daywalker627 1 year ago
good set up.
Is this the trimmer you would recomend and will it do 50 Bmg
MrM2hb 1 year ago
@MrM2hb I do love this trimmer. I use this trimmer for all my brass. I started out with the lee case length, then picked this up at a yard sale. I do not believe it will do a 50 BMG unfortunatly. I believe 45-70 may be the biggest?? I will look into it find out for sure. However, I am pretty positive no go for the 50 BMG. For all other calibers, yea I would have no prob recommending this trimmer.
daywalker627 1 year ago
@MrM2hb per Lyman's website, this trimmer is good for .17-.458 calabers with no further attachments to buy. I would recommend the drill attachment as well.
daywalker627 1 year ago