its funny, BUT REALLY TRUE AND SAD!!! you can see the huge pools of water where they dump the waste water all over alberta, cause they have to distill the oil from the oil sands, and you can't use the water in those pools for 50 year or somethign cause they have so many heavy chemicals.
@LoveForChinaForava the tar sands aren't "all over alberta" so even if that's how they do it for the tar sands the pools wouldn't be "all over alberta". With the drilling rigs they aren't allowed to leave anything behind like that.
Hehe. Gotta love Rick. But the fact of the matter is, that petrol is going to get extracted and it is going to get processed, burned, made into plastics until it is all over, no matter what we say and do. BTW, the prices right now is around 1.30 - 1.31 $CAN/L (montreal).
no shit huh? im a born and raised albertan and often wonder why our gas is more expensive than it is in the states when it is US (not united states US as a province) who produce the crap? sure take away the taxes and the prices of gas is about the same as usa's price without their taxes....why isn't it dirt cheap for albertns?
@urphobik Dude, it is super pricey here too in California, we have a pretty large oilfield about two hours away, and it is still super expensive. Though, i believe it is due to our money being worth less as opposed to the cost of gas.
Both of our quarters back in 1964 would buy a gallon and a half of gas, and the same holds true today, albeit they were silver quarters, and not cupro-nickel (US) or steel (CANADA).
@hivedrone83 im not really sure you actually know how large our oilfield is....it is the second largest oil deposit in the world....yeah thats right, we all know who is the first. but yet our gas is still 1.05/liter....you payin 4.20 a gallon down there? who benifits out of this? not the Albertans thats for sure.........btw. imma female...
Or Hydro dams, but yes, renewable electric heat as in from renewable electric sources like those.
I love the irony here given that Alberta's oil sands developers could easily get cheap electricity from BC or even Manitoba for heat in this extraction process, yet they use natural gas and put out carbon emissions worse than some other industries.
Look for The Globe and Mail's 2 FEB 2008 edition for, "Looking for solutions to the carbon conundrum." Don't get me started on "carbon storage."
You have no idea how much energy it takes to extract oil form the oil sands, the oil companies have offered to help the government build a nuclear power plant for such a purpose. though it will definitely help power the grid, most of the power will go to the oil sands (though the massive amounts of steam produced by fission could also be used the extract extract oil as they just use the energy to produce steam anyway).
Don't even get me started on carbon storage? Apparently the earth has passed the tipping point and sticking the stuff back into the ground where it came from is a bad thing instead of letting it further aggravate a climate system which is going from bad to very bad? Oh yes, let's use nice clean unregulated coal which comes over long inefficient power lines from other provinces. Natural gas is WAY cleaner than coal. Electricity in the devil incarnate, take it, and there's Kyoto. (Pretty close)
What the hell are you talking about? I don't live in the U.S., don't ever say I do again. I highly doubt that your electricity is renewable where you are, because the massive scale on which electricity is consumed makes it entirely unrenewable. All I said is that (what I said here) and you assume that I hate the environment, and am American. Also, you can check my profile to see what country I come from. You're pretty set against oil, I think, considering what you have said.
@cameronsmart1 when will they learn, no many places ya can build a dam, plus kind of fucks up the environment, only if we had enough geothermal pockets, as for wind-power, the wind does not blow hard enough all the time. we just had a bunch of em built in Ontario now its going to cost us millions cause wind ant strong enough, having to maintain windmills and coal plants errr.......... reality is nuclear power.
@Baseshocks It is my understanding that the construction costs of a nuclear power plant are so high that when you amortize it over the life of the facility it is not nearly as economical as its operating costs would suggest.
If I understand it and what I've heard is right, natural gas is used currently. The reason natural gas is used right now is because the value of the product produced from the oilsands exceeds the value of all the input costs -including natural gas- and the result is net profit. However, the option of setting up a nuclear plant has been discussed to supply the oilsands with power/heat other than that currently provided by natural gas.
northern alberta would look better as a moonscape. lived in high level and when I die if I have to go to hell it won't be so bad because I have allreaddy been there.
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Well the carbon sequestration thing is clearly not true - its a joke. What's the difference between putting carbon into the ground and not producing it?
Fact: Hasn't warmed up since 2000.
-Little cooler than in '98.
-Not supposed to for another 10 because of something with the oceans that affects el ninos.
-Sunspot cycle is at a low and they are not reappearing as expected so far. According to one short term trend there will be no visible ones by 2014.
yep, youtube has turned into a joke as far as freedom of speech goes. I guess we shouldn't expect any different in this world today though. It sure makes it plain to see who is in control of mainstream media and what their true agenda is.
The Oil Industry. Keeping newfies employed in my GD province since 1981. :(
MysteriousMrX 7 months ago
its funny, BUT REALLY TRUE AND SAD!!! you can see the huge pools of water where they dump the waste water all over alberta, cause they have to distill the oil from the oil sands, and you can't use the water in those pools for 50 year or somethign cause they have so many heavy chemicals.
LoveForChinaForava 11 months ago
@LoveForChinaForava the tar sands aren't "all over alberta" so even if that's how they do it for the tar sands the pools wouldn't be "all over alberta". With the drilling rigs they aren't allowed to leave anything behind like that.
SarahJ83 8 months ago
@LoveForChinaForava those are tailing ponds, and they arent all over Alberta, theres a few beside the plants at the oil sands mines. I work there.
willythewildwino 2 months ago
00:30 love the grunt/laugh
hifhif123 11 months ago
Hehe. Gotta love Rick. But the fact of the matter is, that petrol is going to get extracted and it is going to get processed, burned, made into plastics until it is all over, no matter what we say and do. BTW, the prices right now is around 1.30 - 1.31 $CAN/L (montreal).
vmelkon 1 year ago
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Amazing, this man is a genius.
cameronsmart1 1 year ago
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cameronsmart1 1 year ago
no shit huh? im a born and raised albertan and often wonder why our gas is more expensive than it is in the states when it is US (not united states US as a province) who produce the crap? sure take away the taxes and the prices of gas is about the same as usa's price without their taxes....why isn't it dirt cheap for albertns?
urphobik 1 year ago 2
@urphobik Dude, it is super pricey here too in California, we have a pretty large oilfield about two hours away, and it is still super expensive. Though, i believe it is due to our money being worth less as opposed to the cost of gas.
Both of our quarters back in 1964 would buy a gallon and a half of gas, and the same holds true today, albeit they were silver quarters, and not cupro-nickel (US) or steel (CANADA).
hivedrone83 1 year ago
@hivedrone83 im not really sure you actually know how large our oilfield is....it is the second largest oil deposit in the world....yeah thats right, we all know who is the first. but yet our gas is still 1.05/liter....you payin 4.20 a gallon down there? who benifits out of this? not the Albertans thats for sure.........btw. imma female...
urphobik 1 year ago
lmao
divert some of it to Ottawa...lol
00Billy 1 year ago 2
I couldn't agree with Rick more. It's so true.
booke685 1 year ago 2
i say we make this basterd prime minister
xXRand0mnameXx 1 year ago 8
Dumb question: Why does the industry use Natural Gas heat instead of some form of renewable heat, say Electric?
I understand how oil sands extraction works, but why burn a fuel to obtain a fuel?
gordonf4yt 3 years ago 3
I don't think you understand. Electricity isn't a "renewable heat". Did you mean electricity derived from wind or solar sources, perhaps?
The tar sands are called that because they are a solid, not a liquid. You have to heat a solid (tar sand) to turn it into a liquid (oil and sand).
emperorinsaino 3 years ago 2
Or Hydro dams, but yes, renewable electric heat as in from renewable electric sources like those.
I love the irony here given that Alberta's oil sands developers could easily get cheap electricity from BC or even Manitoba for heat in this extraction process, yet they use natural gas and put out carbon emissions worse than some other industries.
Look for The Globe and Mail's 2 FEB 2008 edition for, "Looking for solutions to the carbon conundrum." Don't get me started on "carbon storage."
gordonf4yt 3 years ago 4
You have no idea how much energy it takes to extract oil form the oil sands, the oil companies have offered to help the government build a nuclear power plant for such a purpose. though it will definitely help power the grid, most of the power will go to the oil sands (though the massive amounts of steam produced by fission could also be used the extract extract oil as they just use the energy to produce steam anyway).
PooterMcTavish 3 years ago
Don't even get me started on carbon storage? Apparently the earth has passed the tipping point and sticking the stuff back into the ground where it came from is a bad thing instead of letting it further aggravate a climate system which is going from bad to very bad? Oh yes, let's use nice clean unregulated coal which comes over long inefficient power lines from other provinces. Natural gas is WAY cleaner than coal. Electricity in the devil incarnate, take it, and there's Kyoto. (Pretty close)
12v45g 2 years ago
There's nothing renewable about electricity, electricity is the leading cause of global warming because it comes from the burning of coal.
12v45g 3 years ago
Where I come from, Electricity is renewable. It's also very inexpensive. BC, MB, ON, QC and I forget where else all have decent hydro dam networks.
If you live in a border state you might even be using clean, Canadian hydro power sold to your state. Scary, huh?
gordonf4yt 3 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? I don't live in the U.S., don't ever say I do again. I highly doubt that your electricity is renewable where you are, because the massive scale on which electricity is consumed makes it entirely unrenewable. All I said is that (what I said here) and you assume that I hate the environment, and am American. Also, you can check my profile to see what country I come from. You're pretty set against oil, I think, considering what you have said.
12v45g 3 years ago
@12v45g and oil and natural gas
S117killer716 2 years ago
@12v45g electricity is renewable if it comes from sources such as wind-power, geothermal and water sources such as dams.
cameronsmart1 1 year ago
@cameronsmart1 when will they learn, no many places ya can build a dam, plus kind of fucks up the environment, only if we had enough geothermal pockets, as for wind-power, the wind does not blow hard enough all the time. we just had a bunch of em built in Ontario now its going to cost us millions cause wind ant strong enough, having to maintain windmills and coal plants errr.......... reality is nuclear power.
Baseshocks 10 months ago
@Baseshocks It is my understanding that the construction costs of a nuclear power plant are so high that when you amortize it over the life of the facility it is not nearly as economical as its operating costs would suggest.
studentofsmith 5 months ago
If I understand it and what I've heard is right, natural gas is used currently. The reason natural gas is used right now is because the value of the product produced from the oilsands exceeds the value of all the input costs -including natural gas- and the result is net profit. However, the option of setting up a nuclear plant has been discussed to supply the oilsands with power/heat other than that currently provided by natural gas.
alphaomegabcad 3 years ago
northern alberta would look better as a moonscape. lived in high level and when I die if I have to go to hell it won't be so bad because I have allreaddy been there.
coldshot357 3 years ago 2
Rick mercer rules! He should run the whole fuckin' world!
lorethein 3 years ago 40
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so funny and not true
Canucklug 3 years ago
get the facts then post
it is true
z257425 3 years ago 5
Yea it is true Canuck, just because you think that it is not does not make it false in the real world.
quantitti 3 years ago
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Well the carbon sequestration thing is clearly not true - its a joke. What's the difference between putting carbon into the ground and not producing it?
Fact: Hasn't warmed up since 2000.
-Little cooler than in '98.
-Not supposed to for another 10 because of something with the oceans that affects el ninos.
-Sunspot cycle is at a low and they are not reappearing as expected so far. According to one short term trend there will be no visible ones by 2014.
Canucklug 3 years ago
who you work for boy?
Chewy2284 3 years ago
...the Establishment!
Canucklug 3 years ago
the oil establisment? lol, give me back my money!!
pornfartin 3 years ago 3
Why is Canucklug's comments hidden from view and we are unable to thumbs up ... or down? Is somebody censoring this debate?
luvmyctd 2 years ago
on youtube we're all censored now.
weazz 2 years ago 2
yep, youtube has turned into a joke as far as freedom of speech goes. I guess we shouldn't expect any different in this world today though. It sure makes it plain to see who is in control of mainstream media and what their true agenda is.
luvmyctd 2 years ago 4
soo sad and true'
XxcaptainwinkyxX 3 years ago 19
@XxcaptainwinkyxX Europe is so much better equiped with a sustainable energy plan! Just ask someone from most countries in the E.U.
Squeaks90 11 months ago
@Squeaks90 I live i the E.U 80% of our Energy(Oil)comes from Russia, a country not in the EU
bjzorn 6 months ago
@Squeaks90 yes, and they are so much better at everything, and their countries are perfect, and they are smarter and more beautiful. Just ask them!!
willythewildwino 2 months ago