If you have the CD version, update it as much as possible (if it's the Steam version it's already up-to-date). If that doesn't help or you've tried it already, then try running the game in compatibility mode for Windows XP (if you're on Vista/7)
hey ive allways liked starwars but was never a fan until now, for some reason i have an erge to want to play a starwars rpg, hence the reason im on here lookin at reviews!
What about mass effect fans? I love the RPG parts of mass effect and the combat is challenging and fun. But if watch someone else play a FULL RPG like this, I cant help but think it looks pretty boring (combat wise, I love a good story in a game). I sorry but the combat looks boring and like you said, there is allot of it. Call me a typical FPS fan (which I'm not) but does it feel like your having fun with the combat, or just spamming?
Combat's more strategic in games like these, so you may have to use different attacks and powers against certain kinds of enemies than others. So it's fun if you're the kind of gamer who likes thinking things through rather than running in guns-blazing, but if you're fighting lots of the same enemy over and over it does get a little tedious.
@SaintZ42 The combat is a lot more fun then it looks. I thought the combat looked like shit but then when I played it, I thought it was the most well designed combat I have ever seen.
@SaintZ42 It depends on whether you like combat because it's pretty, or whether you enjoy thinking about how to kill an enemy and outsmarting the game.
Lol dude dont worry at that time people didnt know about Crysis... and btw, at that time people werent pussies like now always seing : ''Fuck that game it has no graphics'' people tough more like this : ''Oh my god, a Star Wars game I must buy it''
And this is what they tough after buying it and finish the game
''Oh my god, best rpg ever, best game ever''
Now this is them in the present :
''Fucking hell Kotor 1 and 2 were amazing, love the games, make Kotor 3''
The Crysis comparison was hyperbole. Anyway, yes there were people back then refusing to play games if the graphics weren't modern for the time. Plenty of them. Luckily most of them were console-exclusive folks so the PC crowd didn't have to put up with it.
The Mac OS isn't that expensive. It's the hardware you pay far too much for. Windows OS is certainly expensive if you're not getting some sort of discount (I could get Windows 7 for about $30 for instance), but you can customize your system to your liking and Windows will support that. Good luck trying that with Mac.
On a system that costs at least twice as much as an equivalent PC. Mac's ridiculously overpriced and has become this idiotic, elitist, "hipster" crap that makes me despise it even more than I already did.
@DWTerminator Except there are a decent bunch, and even the ones that don't "support" it still work on it. Out of my personal collection, I've yet to find a game that doesn't work
"Doesn't support" and "won't work on it" are two different things. A lot of onboard or laptop graphics chips "aren't supported" but will work just fine. Besides, you could dual-boot Windows and Linux if you had to anyway.
@DWTerminator Dual booting is annoying. I have windows 7 on my second drive in case I ever buy a game that doesn't work but I hate using it. While we are taking about this I want to point this out humblebundle *dot* com All the games that come out in those packs work NATIVLEY on Linux and work on Steam.
And as I said, I'm playing KotoR on Linux. Runs just as well as when I play on Windows
Lol, okay man. I have had windows pc's my whole life, and just purchased a mac. Not a fanboy, but I do like change. Maybe that's what it is. Think different for once. But that's all.
I used Macs throughout the 90's and up into the mid 2000's... Hated every single one of them. Sure it looks pretty, but underneath that is some pretty bizarre functionality.
1. LOL actually it's far superior to Windows in every possible way. The price isn't a big deal, and the power is fantastic. I don't have to waste 40-60 bucks a year on virus protection either. Macs are perfect for people who have iPhone's.
2. I know it's a port, I guess I was just distracted by my gorgeous 27" LED screen.
You're obviously a Mac fanboy who can't see the truth. In addition, your gloating attitude's that of a small child. If you're going to behave that way, then I don't want you commenting on my videos.
1. I can't stand the Mac OS nor the ridiculous price you have to pay for such an overhyped, underpowered piece of crap.
2. There was never an HD remake of KotOR1 or 2. What you think is an HD remake is actually just the Mac port, which looks exactly the same as the Windows version.
@1tjos you can fight the cat chick before that and you have 2 sabers and you can also go to crystal cave before and get color crystals. btw best game of all time
hey dude i have a feeling that we would get along!! KOTOR is my favorite game of all time! just beating out Oblivion and Fallout 3....yeah im an rpg fan:)
Oblivion & Fallout 3 aren't RPG's unless you're using the definition extremely loosely. They're really just open-world action games with pointless stats.
Still, KotOR's easily one of my all-time favorites as well.
VATS isn't "strategic movement." It's auto-aim for people who are either too lazy to do proper aiming or want to make the game even easier than it already is (which is pretty ridiculously easy, I might add). There's nothing to work for since the leveling system is broken, your character can become a master of nearly everything by the endgame, and the exploration is pathetically weak since all the "dungeons" are the same.
I don't read Game Informer so I dunno what you're talking about.
As for Oblivion, it's just a massive disappointment. Most of what's wrong with Fallout 3 is worse in Oblivion. Leveling system is more broken (it's completely unnecessary to the game and is totally avoidable, while FO3 forces you to level up), the quest design is boring, the dungeons are all the same, the exploration is pointless, and there's no sense of accomplishment at all. However... the story's better than FO3's at least.
@DWTerminator sacred cows an article that comes up every once in a while where they BASH and point out all the flaws in prized and acclaimed games, although they havnt ever done fallout or oblivion. But they did do KOTOR once
Clearly you didn't learn how to exploit the game's generosity on equipment and potions... Even on "very hard" it takes mods to really fix the difficulty.
@DWTerminator yeah i never used potions haha i usually would just run into a fight and hope for the best. But i always had a since of accomplishment after collecting a peice of armor i worked hard on and i liked oblivions enviroment. Do you like Mass Effect?
Yes I like Mass Effect. Kinda random given the discussion though.
Anyway, Oblivion throws tons of potions and extra gear at you. For instance, you can easily get a silver longsword at level 1 just for joining the Fighters Guild.
@DWTerminator morrowind was way to boring for me. and the landscape was all dreary and just depressing tho, ive never played daggerfall before tho cam out like the year i was born hahaha
@superhippie87 yeah i mean Bioshock was an AMAZING game but the twist in this was so unforseen, trust me noone saw it coming until it hits you, and its done in classic star wars form:) gotta appreciate that, IGN put the twist as second of all time(but they dont always get stuff right)
Does this game play like dragon age? I'm still on the fence. I can get it on the xbox for 15 bucks and play it on my 360 but idk yet. I love dragon age and I looooovvveeee mass effect
actually KOTOR 1 has a higher frame rate than KOTOR 2 for some reason. i have no idea why obsidian made number 2 and im also wondering why they won't make a number 3 which would awesome. especiialy with good graphics
Obsidian made KotOR2 because it's their job. Same with New Vegas, Neverwinter Nights 2, etc. Anyway, KotOR2 was simply released long before it should've been (you can thank LucasArts for that, by the way). KotOR3 won't be made just because LucasArts can make more by releasing several crappy, quickly-done action games instead of a well-made RPG.
As an addendum, I can't stand RPG's as a rule - especially ones which get too bogged down in pages of maths and stat points - I do that stuff for a living dammit! I want a break. This one doesn't do that; it implements this stuff well - allowing people like me to focus on the story, characters and combat. But it is all there, meaning you can fiddle with it if you want. So even non RPG fans might like it!
Actually non-RPG fans probably still won't like it just because they'll still see it as "too complicated."
Also, I *hate* math and still love playing RPG's. Makes perfect sense. Anyway, for clarification, most RPG's (video games, at least) are fairly easy to figure out without worrying about stat calculations and such, regardless of complexity of the underlying mechanics. All the calculations and such are done behind the scenes so you don't need to worry about them.
@DWTerminator hey i could name a couple of great console games pc users cant play...but im too sad over the fact there arent more games like this on xbl games on demand
@DWTerminator if i had an xp computer i would buy it. what a shame. i have windows 7 and a vista. but sadly, i have an xp but i rarely use it and it is slow. it also needs speakers. i think i might just buy an original xbox.
Wow, in 2:07, is that a lightsaber with the Mantle of the Force? I didn't know, you could get that this early in the game >:]
A very nice review, I agree on most of the things you said. I love the story, and the plot twist really got me. I love the planets you can visit too, and the characters and... I love everything about this game...
I bought it on Steam when it was cheap, but I owned it before. Never got that far though... Too bad they don't sell KotOR2... I want to play it now, too...
Standard cyan crystal, actually. It's a mod and I just gave myself a bunch of lightsabers through a save edit (I've beaten the game 5 times already, just FYI).
And KotOR2 is a pitiful follow-up. Had it been finished, it might've actually supplanted KotOR1. It really is a pity that they don't sell it on Steam though.
I'd like to point out that I've finished the game 5 times and have mods installed. So what if I give myself some extra lightsabers for the sake of the video?
's no problem. I understand how people get in a tizzy if someone uses a cheat code or something. I don't use cheats until I've completed the game though.
@DWTerminator One of my favorite games all all time. I had so much fun with this. Best Star wars game all all. The best part is the story. I felt like I was watching a well writen movie rather than playing a game story wise. The grahics are not spectacular but not bad. It doesnt have the choices that KOTOR 2 has in terms of amount of force powers and the amount of equipment you can equip but its story and interesting characters like the homicidal HK droid and the other cool sidekick characters
KotOR2's gameplay is better, but KotOR1's story and characters are superior. Makes me wonder what might've happened were Obsidian allowed to actually finish KotOR2, since I actually prefer playing that to KotOR1.
I still rank Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight as my favorite Star Wars game though. KotOR's arguably second (Jedi Outcast comes pretty close, followed by TIE Fighter).
i loved this game when i was 8, but i could never re-buy it after my first xbox broke, then my first xbox 360 half a month after it came out, but now i got a better one :D
nothing lyk crysis?!, why would u even compare this masterpiece to that pixel steroid? yeah well that's what anyone would do nowadays but that doesn't mean u should as well, perhaps it is more justifiable to compare mass effect to crysis, good review btw, too bad kotor 3 is non-existent
And yes, it sucks that KotOR3 is dust in the wind. Instead we get TOR. Even though it's BioWare making the game, an MMO set 300 years later is NOT KotOR3. -_-
@spudnick3490 i don't think understand the difference between a logical complain and a mad protest, i was just complaining about the absurdity of the comparison (duh), it's like comparing a painting against a 3d model, yet the painting holds deeper meaning than 3d, it's called criticism, spelled c-r-i-t-i-s-i-s-m-ur-a-troll.
@spudnick3490 LOL, read through my comments again and you may yet redeem your stupidity, my 2nd comment implies that im not mad, sorry if you couldn't stand up to my level of education, i understand there are plenty of brainless idiots like you in the internet, and i feel sorry for that, and let me spell it clearly for you, y-o-u-a-r-e-a-t-r-o-l-l, next tym try to google it, oh wait, you want me to teach you how to? poor child, your parents must've had a hard time raising you
Does it play identically on xbox?
EllDudeRocks 1 week ago
There are control differences and the Xbox version doesn't have as good graphics. That's about it.
DWTerminator 1 week ago
the only thing i dont like about this series is the fact that i cant attack on your own thats it other then that i love it
TheMetalMilitia144 1 week ago
Best game ever made -3
TheOxygenic 1 week ago
round 4 hrs to get to jedi training
Liquidfoxdye 2 weeks ago
bought because i was looking for something new
KyutoAbridged 3 weeks ago
Whoa dude that looks beautiful!!!!
skyrock100 1 month ago
Actually SOE had a star wars MMO that was shut down right as this game was announced, so its not the first SW MMO
sheerfe4rstudios 1 month ago
1. Star Wars Galaxies came out the same year as KotOR.
2. KotOR is singleplayer only. You're thinking of "The Old Republic."
DWTerminator 1 month ago
@sheerfe4rstudios LoL. All I have to say to your stupid comment :
CookiesAndGaming 1 month ago
@CookiesAndGaming which is not nearly as bad as how stupid you are, literary, your pretty god damn retarded.
sheerfe4rstudios 1 month ago
@sheerfe4rstudios Is that why you cant use a comma ?
CookiesAndGaming 1 month ago
@sheerfe4rstudios Or spell literally ?
CookiesAndGaming 1 month ago
first rpg?
liamjd1 1 month ago
Far from it. First commercial RPG was made in 1974 (Dungeons & Dragons).
DWTerminator 1 month ago
@liamjd1
The first actual videogame rpg was dragon quest wich was released during the early days of the nes
AzumGaming 1 month ago
The Ultima and Wizardry series, as well as roguelikes in general and Dragonstomper would like to have a word with you.
DWTerminator 1 month ago
@DWTerminator
I'd rather stay stupid and keep on beliving that dq/w is the first rpg :)
AzumGaming 1 month ago
It can be considered the first "traditional" J-RPG so you can at least cling to that.
DWTerminator 1 month ago
@DWTerminator
Yeah it might have been that and not the first actual rpg
AzumGaming 1 month ago
People mix stuff like that up all the time.
DWTerminator 1 month ago
@DWTerminator I consider more of a W-RPG because it allows you to go your own way and is in almost no way linear.
Slajjin 1 month ago
Back then the genres weren't quite as well-defined as they are now.
DWTerminator 1 month ago
graphics are terrible
verbod 1 month ago
@verbod what would you expect from a 2003 game you dumbass?
DaendyrProductions 1 month ago
@verbod graphics do not make gameplay
jc75843 3 hours ago
how long does it take in gameplay hours to get a lightsaber or to make it into the jedi order / become a sith apprentice???
peteking01 1 month ago
I'd estimate about 3-5 hours, but I'm not 100% sure on that.
DWTerminator 1 month ago
can you help me i have KoToR and every time i launch it it crashed
i click on the icon it shows that menu i click launch and the game just crashes
TheViNTeam 2 months ago
If you have the CD version, update it as much as possible (if it's the Steam version it's already up-to-date). If that doesn't help or you've tried it already, then try running the game in compatibility mode for Windows XP (if you're on Vista/7)
DWTerminator 2 months ago
is this a RPG or a MMORPG? and do you need to subscibe for it?
TeringBen 3 months ago
Singleplayer RPG. No subscription fees. Just buy the game and you can play indefinitely.
DWTerminator 3 months ago 10
George Lucas made star wars not not John Williams
spider486 3 months ago
I never said that. John Williams did the music for Star Wars. I was referring to that versus Jeremy Soule's KotOR soundtrack.
DWTerminator 3 months ago
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@DWTerminator Oh my bad man, I must of heard ya wrong good review and as an apology im gonna sub ya srry bro
spider486 3 months ago
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spider486 3 months ago
Great game. And amazing plot twist.
randomshytFTW 3 months ago 5
I've just ordered this! Only ever played the second one and i ficking loved it!! So this should be good!
westham1516 4 months ago
I ordered this on amazon a couple of days, can't wait till it gets here!
MegaViper666 4 months ago
2.99 Steam
MisterAAnderson 4 months ago
is this avalible for download on the xbox 360?
Luffymon88 4 months ago
No.
DWTerminator 4 months ago
@Luffymon88 You can get it from Ebay to play on 360. It's better on Original xbox though.
halflife103 3 months ago
Though the PC version is of course superior to Xbox to begin with.
DWTerminator 3 months ago
@DWTerminator oh yeah i got both xbox and PC
halflife103 3 months ago
hey ive allways liked starwars but was never a fan until now, for some reason i have an erge to want to play a starwars rpg, hence the reason im on here lookin at reviews!
ShakaSamurai 5 months ago
This Game to this day is WAY BETTER THAN MASS EFFECT 1.
SuperBeasticles 5 months ago
What about mass effect fans? I love the RPG parts of mass effect and the combat is challenging and fun. But if watch someone else play a FULL RPG like this, I cant help but think it looks pretty boring (combat wise, I love a good story in a game). I sorry but the combat looks boring and like you said, there is allot of it. Call me a typical FPS fan (which I'm not) but does it feel like your having fun with the combat, or just spamming?
SaintZ42 5 months ago
Combat's more strategic in games like these, so you may have to use different attacks and powers against certain kinds of enemies than others. So it's fun if you're the kind of gamer who likes thinking things through rather than running in guns-blazing, but if you're fighting lots of the same enemy over and over it does get a little tedious.
DWTerminator 5 months ago
@DWTerminator so the combat is similiar to dragon age origins and somewhat like final fantasy 12
mina319 5 months ago
Nope. Combat's closer to Neverwinter Nights than both of those, actually.
DWTerminator 5 months ago
@SaintZ42 The combat is a lot more fun then it looks. I thought the combat looked like shit but then when I played it, I thought it was the most well designed combat I have ever seen.
Blazing234 5 months ago
@SaintZ42 i kinda agree, though its fun to watch.
but yes i prefer crossover rpgs as well, aka good games with rpg features like mass effect
supervegito2277 5 months ago
@SaintZ42 It depends on whether you like combat because it's pretty, or whether you enjoy thinking about how to kill an enemy and outsmarting the game.
ImperialManiac1 4 months ago
This was a great game, need to make a third. LucasArts would make millions.
TheSgtDouglas 6 months ago
Lol dude dont worry at that time people didnt know about Crysis... and btw, at that time people werent pussies like now always seing : ''Fuck that game it has no graphics'' people tough more like this : ''Oh my god, a Star Wars game I must buy it''
And this is what they tough after buying it and finish the game
''Oh my god, best rpg ever, best game ever''
Now this is them in the present :
''Fucking hell Kotor 1 and 2 were amazing, love the games, make Kotor 3''
Got my point? =)
supermanvalle 6 months ago
The Crysis comparison was hyperbole. Anyway, yes there were people back then refusing to play games if the graphics weren't modern for the time. Plenty of them. Luckily most of them were console-exclusive folks so the PC crowd didn't have to put up with it.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
Student discount.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
The Mac OS isn't that expensive. It's the hardware you pay far too much for. Windows OS is certainly expensive if you're not getting some sort of discount (I could get Windows 7 for about $30 for instance), but you can customize your system to your liking and Windows will support that. Good luck trying that with Mac.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
On a system that costs at least twice as much as an equivalent PC. Mac's ridiculously overpriced and has become this idiotic, elitist, "hipster" crap that makes me despise it even more than I already did.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
Since a PC vs Mac debate is going on, I'll be THAT GUY who mentions I'm playing KotoR on Linux(Ubuntu to be exact).
All the customization of windows, all the simplicity of a mac, and all the free of open source
ForeverWiked 6 months ago
Except anymore there aren't a lot of games that support Linux.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
@DWTerminator Except there are a decent bunch, and even the ones that don't "support" it still work on it. Out of my personal collection, I've yet to find a game that doesn't work
ForeverWiked 6 months ago
"Doesn't support" and "won't work on it" are two different things. A lot of onboard or laptop graphics chips "aren't supported" but will work just fine. Besides, you could dual-boot Windows and Linux if you had to anyway.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
@DWTerminator Dual booting is annoying. I have windows 7 on my second drive in case I ever buy a game that doesn't work but I hate using it. While we are taking about this I want to point this out humblebundle *dot* com All the games that come out in those packs work NATIVLEY on Linux and work on Steam.
And as I said, I'm playing KotoR on Linux. Runs just as well as when I play on Windows
ForeverWiked 6 months ago
Lol, okay man. I have had windows pc's my whole life, and just purchased a mac. Not a fanboy, but I do like change. Maybe that's what it is. Think different for once. But that's all.
K1NGJ0RDAN1 6 months ago
I used Macs throughout the 90's and up into the mid 2000's... Hated every single one of them. Sure it looks pretty, but underneath that is some pretty bizarre functionality.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
1. LOL actually it's far superior to Windows in every possible way. The price isn't a big deal, and the power is fantastic. I don't have to waste 40-60 bucks a year on virus protection either. Macs are perfect for people who have iPhone's.
2. I know it's a port, I guess I was just distracted by my gorgeous 27" LED screen.
K1NGJ0RDAN1 6 months ago
You're obviously a Mac fanboy who can't see the truth. In addition, your gloating attitude's that of a small child. If you're going to behave that way, then I don't want you commenting on my videos.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
@K1NGJ0RDAN1 you can get a pc with the same power of a mac for way cheaper and you can get whatever screen you want
jake546213 6 months ago
Then maybe you should get a Mac then you'd know there was.
K1NGJ0RDAN1 6 months ago
1. I can't stand the Mac OS nor the ridiculous price you have to pay for such an overhyped, underpowered piece of crap.
2. There was never an HD remake of KotOR1 or 2. What you think is an HD remake is actually just the Mac port, which looks exactly the same as the Windows version.
DWTerminator 6 months ago 2
Guess I'm buying this on the Mac app store. It should look nice on my new 27" iMac!!!! HD remake!!
K1NGJ0RDAN1 6 months ago
There wasn't an HD remake.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
things i did with this game
did the twirly thing with my weapon every time i was just strolling
said "holy shit im the boss "when i got my lightsaber and became a jedi
said"wtf is wrong with bastila does she like me or something"when she needed to talk
said "what a twist"when i found out the secret
got rid of the "trash"...
finished the evil ending ...
got 2 years of my life taken away..............
5 days later found out there was a second one.
FalloutGODify 6 months ago
@DWTerminator
Are you talking with someone else or is your mic just jumpy
iNtErNeTLAMA12 6 months ago
It's just the mic.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
@DWTerminator You left out Jade Empire.
Kanevoorhees1 6 months ago
BioWare isn't particularly known for Jade Empire.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
why original star wars music and not Kotor music in the background? xD
blodstainer 6 months ago
Because I don't have the KotOR soundtrack ripped. It's a pretty weird process to pull that out of the game files.
DWTerminator 6 months ago
Just bought this bitch for 2.49... Ahh, steam.
demondog45 7 months ago 5
This is on steam for 2.45 for today.
gengijoe 7 months ago 4
@gengijoe i bought it and battlefront 2 for a total of £3.35
Bargain!!!
swillis1993 7 months ago
@swillis1993
Pure bottled epicness
gengijoe 6 months ago
ons team for $2.49 today only
Victahdaoriginal 7 months ago 15
This isn't the first star wars rpg star wars Jedi knight dark forces 2 is the first and the best
bleached128 7 months ago
Dark Forces 2 is an FPS with two paths in it, not an RPG.
DWTerminator 7 months ago 8
@1tjos you can fight the cat chick before that and you have 2 sabers and you can also go to crystal cave before and get color crystals. btw best game of all time
rhencley 7 months ago
thats the first bit after you become a jedi so how do you have all the lightsabers?
1tjos 7 months ago
Edited the save. Just wanted to show them in action. I'd beaten the game three times before doing this review so I figure there's no harm done here.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
hey dude i have a feeling that we would get along!! KOTOR is my favorite game of all time! just beating out Oblivion and Fallout 3....yeah im an rpg fan:)
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
Oblivion & Fallout 3 aren't RPG's unless you're using the definition extremely loosely. They're really just open-world action games with pointless stats.
Still, KotOR's easily one of my all-time favorites as well.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
@DWTerminator but i feel like im playing an RPG when im playing them, like Fallouts VATS system, it lets you plan strategic moves out like RPG's
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
VATS isn't "strategic movement." It's auto-aim for people who are either too lazy to do proper aiming or want to make the game even easier than it already is (which is pretty ridiculously easy, I might add). There's nothing to work for since the leveling system is broken, your character can become a master of nearly everything by the endgame, and the exploration is pathetically weak since all the "dungeons" are the same.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
@DWTerminator Dude!!! you could so write the sacred cow articles in game informer haha, and what about oblivion??
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
I don't read Game Informer so I dunno what you're talking about.
As for Oblivion, it's just a massive disappointment. Most of what's wrong with Fallout 3 is worse in Oblivion. Leveling system is more broken (it's completely unnecessary to the game and is totally avoidable, while FO3 forces you to level up), the quest design is boring, the dungeons are all the same, the exploration is pointless, and there's no sense of accomplishment at all. However... the story's better than FO3's at least.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
@DWTerminator sacred cows an article that comes up every once in a while where they BASH and point out all the flaws in prized and acclaimed games, although they havnt ever done fallout or oblivion. But they did do KOTOR once
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
Of course they won't do Oblivion or FO3... those are two of the "best RPG's ever made." (said with EXTREME sarcasm, of course)
I'm surprised they did KotOR. There's really not much that's wrong with that game.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
@DWTerminator They made fun of the graphics and other stuff. But i like oblivion i put so many hours into it
:/. And neither games are easy when you put them on very hard, it can get challenging
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
Clearly you didn't learn how to exploit the game's generosity on equipment and potions... Even on "very hard" it takes mods to really fix the difficulty.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
@DWTerminator yeah i never used potions haha i usually would just run into a fight and hope for the best. But i always had a since of accomplishment after collecting a peice of armor i worked hard on and i liked oblivions enviroment. Do you like Mass Effect?
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
Yes I like Mass Effect. Kinda random given the discussion though.
Anyway, Oblivion throws tons of potions and extra gear at you. For instance, you can easily get a silver longsword at level 1 just for joining the Fighters Guild.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
@DWTerminator so basically you like BioWares big RPG's but dislike Bethesdas completely? seems kind of fan boyish....
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
No. I like Daggerfall and Morrowind. I just don't like Oblivion, Fallout 3, or TES: Arena.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
@DWTerminator morrowind was way to boring for me. and the landscape was all dreary and just depressing tho, ive never played daggerfall before tho cam out like the year i was born hahaha
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
@TheSepaugh
Fallout isn't exactly an RPG.
It's a weird, mixed genre.
LolitaSupreme 7 months ago
Fallout 1 & 2 are definitely RPG's. 3 and New Vegas are more like FPS's with barely-useful stat systems.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
The twist in this game(i wont give spoilers out) is the greatest in a game ever
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
Definitely.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
@TheSepaugh Better then the one in Bioshock?
superhippie87 7 months ago
@superhippie87 yeah i mean Bioshock was an AMAZING game but the twist in this was so unforseen, trust me noone saw it coming until it hits you, and its done in classic star wars form:) gotta appreciate that, IGN put the twist as second of all time(but they dont always get stuff right)
TheSepaugh 7 months ago
Is this a good game to start playing now?
ziggystardust39 7 months ago
It's *always* a good game to start playing.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
Just started playing this again. Good review btw it's such a good game.
WafflezDay 7 months ago
Correction: KotOR's not good. It's astoundingly awesome.
Glad you liked the review as well.
DWTerminator 7 months ago
Does this game play like dragon age? I'm still on the fence. I can get it on the xbox for 15 bucks and play it on my 360 but idk yet. I love dragon age and I looooovvveeee mass effect
Gowatch3kb 8 months ago
Not really. There are similarities, but this is a bit closer to Neverwinter Nights in gameplay mechanics.
DWTerminator 8 months ago
u look exactly like my character did
PorkchopVideoCompany 8 months ago
Character customization's pretty limited so that's not particularly surprising...
DWTerminator 8 months ago
This game has great graphics for a game made in '03...
emo100111 8 months ago
actually KOTOR 1 has a higher frame rate than KOTOR 2 for some reason. i have no idea why obsidian made number 2 and im also wondering why they won't make a number 3 which would awesome. especiialy with good graphics
gummystar45 9 months ago
Obsidian made KotOR2 because it's their job. Same with New Vegas, Neverwinter Nights 2, etc. Anyway, KotOR2 was simply released long before it should've been (you can thank LucasArts for that, by the way). KotOR3 won't be made just because LucasArts can make more by releasing several crappy, quickly-done action games instead of a well-made RPG.
DWTerminator 9 months ago
AL HAIL LORD REVAN! ALL HAIL LORD REVAN!
eo2525 9 months ago 2
Nice review thanks :)
joeyxl3456 9 months ago
Glad you liked it.
DWTerminator 9 months ago
Haven't played the KOTOR series yet, planning on playing TOR so i might give the first two a try.
Karumii 9 months ago
TOR is going to be almost nothing like KotOR, you know.
DWTerminator 9 months ago
@DWTerminator I know that, however it's still in the same timeline.
Karumii 9 months ago
Just keep in mind it's set 300 years after KotOR2.
DWTerminator 9 months ago
@DWTerminator Again, yes. I know, i didn't just happen across the Star Wars universe.
Karumii 9 months ago
@Karumii
Well TOR is a different category.
TOR is a MMO so it'll be different.
KOTOR 1 is incredibly better than KOTOR 2.
But TOR is good because Bioware only make good games.
WolfytheWolf5667 9 months ago
@WolfytheWolf5667 Yes i know that, you would have to be pretty retarded not to realise TOR is an MMO while KOTOR is simply an RPG.
Karumii 9 months ago
THis game changed my life :D
LordDeathrot 9 months ago
I wish I could play this game for the first time again :)
MagicAccent 10 months ago
Don't we all?
DWTerminator 10 months ago
As an addendum, I can't stand RPG's as a rule - especially ones which get too bogged down in pages of maths and stat points - I do that stuff for a living dammit! I want a break. This one doesn't do that; it implements this stuff well - allowing people like me to focus on the story, characters and combat. But it is all there, meaning you can fiddle with it if you want. So even non RPG fans might like it!
tsujigiri15 10 months ago
Actually non-RPG fans probably still won't like it just because they'll still see it as "too complicated."
Also, I *hate* math and still love playing RPG's. Makes perfect sense. Anyway, for clarification, most RPG's (video games, at least) are fairly easy to figure out without worrying about stat calculations and such, regardless of complexity of the underlying mechanics. All the calculations and such are done behind the scenes so you don't need to worry about them.
DWTerminator 10 months ago
@tsujigiri15 Bioware is really great for this stuff. You would really enjoy the Mass Effect series if you like this game.
AFredCalledFred 9 months ago
isnt this an online RPG?
Junglejim728 10 months ago
i wish i could buy this of xbox live games on demand but all i can find is halo 1
5zaide 10 months ago
Still readily available on PC. You Xbox gamers have it rough with actually getting great games.
DWTerminator 10 months ago
@DWTerminator hey i could name a couple of great console games pc users cant play...but im too sad over the fact there arent more games like this on xbl games on demand
5zaide 10 months ago
I could name plenty of great games console players can't play. It works both ways.
Anyway, I see your pain. It certainly would be nice to have a lot of good games on XBL Games on Demand.
DWTerminator 10 months ago
@5zaide the first xbox version works on the xbox 360
fallout7311 10 months ago
@fallout7311 i might buy it off ebay
5zaide 10 months ago
@5zaide i got mine at my local gamestop
fallout7311 10 months ago
the crappy thing is that i cant play this on xbox 360. it is backwards compatible but has a lot of problems!
xFIRERUSHx 10 months ago
That does suck. Looks like yet another reason the PC version is superior...
DWTerminator 10 months ago
@DWTerminator if i had an xp computer i would buy it. what a shame. i have windows 7 and a vista. but sadly, i have an xp but i rarely use it and it is slow. it also needs speakers. i think i might just buy an original xbox.
xFIRERUSHx 10 months ago
You can always try running it in compatibility mode for XP on Vista/7.
DWTerminator 10 months ago
Wow, in 2:07, is that a lightsaber with the Mantle of the Force? I didn't know, you could get that this early in the game >:]
A very nice review, I agree on most of the things you said. I love the story, and the plot twist really got me. I love the planets you can visit too, and the characters and... I love everything about this game...
I bought it on Steam when it was cheap, but I owned it before. Never got that far though... Too bad they don't sell KotOR2... I want to play it now, too...
DrunkenCoward1 1 year ago
Standard cyan crystal, actually. It's a mod and I just gave myself a bunch of lightsabers through a save edit (I've beaten the game 5 times already, just FYI).
And KotOR2 is a pitiful follow-up. Had it been finished, it might've actually supplanted KotOR1. It really is a pity that they don't sell it on Steam though.
DWTerminator 1 year ago
dark side is better in my opinon cuz u get kick butt force powers
imalesbean 1 year ago
Yes... but the ending isn't as good.
DWTerminator 1 year ago
@DWTerminator so true i never beat it but i saw the ending on yputube
imalesbean 1 year ago
Glad you liked it.
DWTerminator 1 year ago
id like to point out the fact that he has so many lightsabers, as at that point you only have 1 single & one double-bladed sabers,
TenaciousD89er 1 year ago
I'd like to point out that I've finished the game 5 times and have mods installed. So what if I give myself some extra lightsabers for the sake of the video?
DWTerminator 1 year ago
@DWTerminator ok, thats fair,
i do apoligize
TenaciousD89er 1 year ago
's no problem. I understand how people get in a tizzy if someone uses a cheat code or something. I don't use cheats until I've completed the game though.
DWTerminator 1 year ago
Thor-Axe....lawl
Devildude585 1 year ago
I went oh dude that looks beautiful in my mind when I saw the ocean on Manaan
clamz94 1 year ago
@clamz94 When I want to blow my mind, I will just look out at the ocean on Manaan, I still love the graphics
InsanityCap 1 year ago
are you playing a re-make of this game? i sure dont remember being able to select the attack you want to do right under the enemie's health bar
undercop5567 1 year ago
Nope. Normal KotOR PC version. Perhaps the Xbox version controls differently?
DWTerminator 1 year ago
@DWTerminator One of my favorite games all all time. I had so much fun with this. Best Star wars game all all. The best part is the story. I felt like I was watching a well writen movie rather than playing a game story wise. The grahics are not spectacular but not bad. It doesnt have the choices that KOTOR 2 has in terms of amount of force powers and the amount of equipment you can equip but its story and interesting characters like the homicidal HK droid and the other cool sidekick characters
destroyer8604 1 year ago
KotOR2's gameplay is better, but KotOR1's story and characters are superior. Makes me wonder what might've happened were Obsidian allowed to actually finish KotOR2, since I actually prefer playing that to KotOR1.
I still rank Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight as my favorite Star Wars game though. KotOR's arguably second (Jedi Outcast comes pretty close, followed by TIE Fighter).
DWTerminator 1 year ago
@DWTerminator
the PC has practiacally the same graphics as the other Xbox KOTOR. Except the remake...
undercop5567 11 months ago
PC's a bit sharper, and has the advantage of mods that can make the game look better.
DWTerminator 11 months ago
i loved this game when i was 8, but i could never re-buy it after my first xbox broke, then my first xbox 360 half a month after it came out, but now i got a better one :D
undercop5567 1 year ago
Best. Game. Ever.
Rad1ka1 1 year ago
nothing lyk crysis?!, why would u even compare this masterpiece to that pixel steroid? yeah well that's what anyone would do nowadays but that doesn't mean u should as well, perhaps it is more justifiable to compare mass effect to crysis, good review btw, too bad kotor 3 is non-existent
dragonbukid 1 year ago
'Tis called hyperbole.
And yes, it sucks that KotOR3 is dust in the wind. Instead we get TOR. Even though it's BioWare making the game, an MMO set 300 years later is NOT KotOR3. -_-
DWTerminator 1 year ago
@DWTerminator while I agree its not kotor 3 that doesn't make it bad it looks really good
clamz94 1 year ago
@dragonbukid
Crysis has better graphics...I just compared the two...OH NO!!
U mad?
spudnick3490 1 year ago
@spudnick3490 i don't think understand the difference between a logical complain and a mad protest, i was just complaining about the absurdity of the comparison (duh), it's like comparing a painting against a 3d model, yet the painting holds deeper meaning than 3d, it's called criticism, spelled c-r-i-t-i-s-i-s-m-ur-a-troll.
dragonbukid 1 year ago
@dragonbukid
LOL
See?
You really are stupid...You can't even comprehend the true meaning of my comment...
Lol u mad nigger?
spudnick3490 1 year ago
@spudnick3490 LOL, read through my comments again and you may yet redeem your stupidity, my 2nd comment implies that im not mad, sorry if you couldn't stand up to my level of education, i understand there are plenty of brainless idiots like you in the internet, and i feel sorry for that, and let me spell it clearly for you, y-o-u-a-r-e-a-t-r-o-l-l, next tym try to google it, oh wait, you want me to teach you how to? poor child, your parents must've had a hard time raising you
dragonbukid 1 year ago