that's so neat to see an artist actually at work, but NEAL frikin ADAMS? That's some valuable footage, too bad it's not Batman or the Superfriends. Am honestly not familiar with Player VS Player but still, this guy is the source of comic books.
@OropherThranduil You dissin children now? Cuz, hate to break this to ya, that's who comic books have always been FOR. You dis children, you dis comic books; it's historical primary audience. And the dawn of the bronze age, silver age, and golden age IS what Superfriends was reflecting, BTW.
right, because on the suoperfriends superman cripplied criminals, batman killed with a gun, damn, NOW that is the super friends cartoon.
just like we see speedy there on heroin and doing a cold turkey, and green lantern fighting against racism, repjudices and overpopulace, it really IS the bronze age i must agree.
@OropherThranduil I'm glad you really agree, which shows you saw the Superfriends episodes that addressed racism, prejudice, and pollution. That means you're up to speed...or were you being sarcastic? Oops! If so, you must feel really retarded now. Wanna feel more retarded? Alex Ross praises the Superfriends for being 100% accurate as a living comic book. Feel stupid yet? Geoff Johns says it's the greatest comic incarnation. Neal Adams, Todd Nauk, Wizard Magazine.Dude, you are out of the loop.
@ComicBookGo ...furthermore OropherThranduil, The current Justice League of America Comic book has erected THE HALL OF JUSTICE as it's JLA headquarters for 4 years now. Duh. On top of that, the current YJ cartoon has the Hall of Justice as well. Oh, and don't bullshit everyone with Batman killing people with a gun and Superman crippling criminals. Youre just showing what a sleaze you are to implement "out of context" tactic. Not ONE professional artist agrees w/Supes+Bats doin such past errors.
my favorite era IS the sliver age, but i was FUCKING talking about what are neal Adams greatest achievements, and i don't give a fuck about the Superfriends talking about drawings, the animation style looked so fucking bad compared to what was going on in the comics these days, unlike barks disney comics, they looked at least as good as the cartoons, but 60s cartoons look like shit sometimes, just compare 40s T&J to 60s T&J.
@OropherThranduil T&J, I assume you mean Tom and Jerry cartoon. About that, this is now the issue of animation, not the art. What you mostly said in your last posts is understandable and I can agree with. Just don't dis the Superfriends, way too many big time professionals honor the Superfriends constantly, the animation at times was really good and other times mediocre or less. But the ART is at least in the general range of comic book art. Galactic Guardians was Perez/Adams to life.
@OropherThranduil I thought they did a pretty decent rendition of Ditko's art on the Spidey toon tho. Sure it wasn't 100%, but it was in range (maybe 70%). As long as the art hit's the ball park figure, I'm cool with it because 70-90% is a large chunk. You can tell that they're trying to follow the art (plus realist art is hard to draw frame for frame, toony art is easier). I thought that "the New Adventures of Superman" cartoon was definitely Curt Swan and the Fleischer is def JoeShuster
yeah, the fleishcger superman loooked awesome, as i said, 40s animation just had some kind of tightness perfection too it that the more on the loose 60s style can't match ImO.
Yeah realism is harder to draw, and that's a reason why Curt Swan's Superman was so distinctive back then i think, he just had a perfect sense of Bodys and faces, unlike Jack Kirby for example, who's perfect for action, but some of his people look like deformed monsters, and some of his characters
@OropherThranduil I agree 100% w/u on Kirbys people, they werent as realistic as most comic book art, but it was still good.His forte was definitely action on how he would actually use Angles, a concept not even conceived before, and showing multiple events happening in one shot. Curts action was also good but basic than Kirbys and man his women were pretty and just the realism is elegant. Aside from it's animation, Flieshers drawings actually LOOKED like Shusters.
I mean the man who did most for Animation surely was Walt Disney himself, Snow White alone gives him that position, inventing the animated future film. despite everybody telling him nobody would watch it, i love the special oscar he got for it, (one big and 7 little statues).
Did you read some carl barks or Don Rosa Comics?
My 2 favorite Disney Artists, in german comic scene superheroes aren't too important, more francobelgian, itlaian and disney.
@OropherThranduil I got a few of DonRosa, he's GREAT. Sorry cant say I kno CarlBarks. Fact is, originally "comicBook" means literally FunnyBooks (hence comic) so truly the real comics are those first funny-toony art like Mickey Mouse,DonalDuck,Popeye,ect. I'm not really familiar w/the abstract toony stuff honestly, I just love their animations and T&J is the best. When Suprman came Sheroes made the industry successful, I think WillEisner is a nice balance between the two; toony+Sprheroes.
you really should give barks a read, he's really one of the alltime greatest comic book writers/artists, he's funny, he even made a political statement about the vietnam war in 66 in the story Treasure of Marco Polo, spielberg and lucas are big fans of him, a sequence from one of carls best advenuture stories, called The Seven Cities of Cibola, inspired the opening sequence with the idol and the rolling stone, there's a dial b for blog article on it.
Barks mostly did 10 pagers, most where with donald and the nephews, the 10 pagers where gag stories for the most, for the advenutre stories he's got up to 30 pages per storie, and boy, does he use them.
Or when he drew Mein Kampf lying on the Trashyard, you should try to get some of his work, and Don, i love Rosa, his life and times of scrooge mcduck, he deserved his eisner for it, collection every barks reference about scrooges life and making it one huge awesome story.
Writer-artist Will Eisner called him "the Hans Christian Andersen of comic books."
The quality of his scripts and drawings earned him the nicknames The Duck Man and The Good Duck Artist (because back then at disney they still wanted the kids to believe disney did everything by himself, while DC also didn#t use names Mort and co still had no problem mentioning them in letters and so on, but it was impossible to know who that artists was, so the nickname came to be) .
And you know what gives Don even more extra points for me?
Back in the 60s he had all the disney comcis from his sister, getting older he sold them and got everything he could from the superman line, jimmy olsen, lois lane, superman, action comics, he has every marvel and Dc comics from the silver age, he also started buiying complete bronze age runs, but sold them becausde he didn't like it.
His favorite Superheroe Artists are the 2 big C/Kurts, Curt Swan and Kurt Schaffenberger.
, like cap and johnny storm, look pretty close to one another while Curt on the other hand gave every Legionaire distinctive Features and even Hairdos, ImO he's an overlooked Giant, i wonder what he would have looked like doing marvel, i mean when Jack did Olsen and the new Gods it looked more like a Marvel, i think Curt could have quite well adopted a bit to the marvel style.
you call yourself a legend?
FurlogTheGiant 10 months ago
@FurlogTheGiant No I don't. OTHERS DO. has nothing to do with me.
nealadamsdotcom 10 months ago
This is beyond amazing I have been following Neals work since 1969, never ceased being amazed!!
kyannos 2 years ago
Okay you don't know Neal Adams do you, lol...
A1R5N1P3R 2 years ago
lol it was a joke...
natephant 2 years ago
I like the interaction between them as he do his work.
webman 2 years ago
that's so neat to see an artist actually at work, but NEAL frikin ADAMS? That's some valuable footage, too bad it's not Batman or the Superfriends. Am honestly not familiar with Player VS Player but still, this guy is the source of comic books.
ComicBookGo 2 years ago
@ComicBookGo
i'd rather say too bad it's not batman or green lanter/green arrow.
OropherThranduil 9 months ago
@OropherThranduil Green Lantern and Batman IS the Superfriends!!!
ComicBookGo 8 months ago
@ComicBookGo
Dude i wasn't talking about that child cartoon, i was talking about the dawn of the bronze age.
OropherThranduil 8 months ago
@OropherThranduil You dissin children now? Cuz, hate to break this to ya, that's who comic books have always been FOR. You dis children, you dis comic books; it's historical primary audience. And the dawn of the bronze age, silver age, and golden age IS what Superfriends was reflecting, BTW.
ComicBookGo 7 months ago
@ComicBookGo
right, because on the suoperfriends superman cripplied criminals, batman killed with a gun, damn, NOW that is the super friends cartoon.
just like we see speedy there on heroin and doing a cold turkey, and green lantern fighting against racism, repjudices and overpopulace, it really IS the bronze age i must agree.
OropherThranduil 7 months ago
@OropherThranduil I'm glad you really agree, which shows you saw the Superfriends episodes that addressed racism, prejudice, and pollution. That means you're up to speed...or were you being sarcastic? Oops! If so, you must feel really retarded now. Wanna feel more retarded? Alex Ross praises the Superfriends for being 100% accurate as a living comic book. Feel stupid yet? Geoff Johns says it's the greatest comic incarnation. Neal Adams, Todd Nauk, Wizard Magazine.Dude, you are out of the loop.
ComicBookGo 2 months ago
@ComicBookGo ...furthermore OropherThranduil, The current Justice League of America Comic book has erected THE HALL OF JUSTICE as it's JLA headquarters for 4 years now. Duh. On top of that, the current YJ cartoon has the Hall of Justice as well. Oh, and don't bullshit everyone with Batman killing people with a gun and Superman crippling criminals. Youre just showing what a sleaze you are to implement "out of context" tactic. Not ONE professional artist agrees w/Supes+Bats doin such past errors.
ComicBookGo 2 months ago
@ComicBookGo
i don't want them to do suck things.
my favorite era IS the sliver age, but i was FUCKING talking about what are neal Adams greatest achievements, and i don't give a fuck about the Superfriends talking about drawings, the animation style looked so fucking bad compared to what was going on in the comics these days, unlike barks disney comics, they looked at least as good as the cartoons, but 60s cartoons look like shit sometimes, just compare 40s T&J to 60s T&J.
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
@OropherThranduil T&J, I assume you mean Tom and Jerry cartoon. About that, this is now the issue of animation, not the art. What you mostly said in your last posts is understandable and I can agree with. Just don't dis the Superfriends, way too many big time professionals honor the Superfriends constantly, the animation at times was really good and other times mediocre or less. But the ART is at least in the general range of comic book art. Galactic Guardians was Perez/Adams to life.
ComicBookGo 2 months ago
@ComicBookGo
The Art of the seres ImO is surely not on the same level as those early to mid 70s DC comics, Curt Swans Superman and the like.
Some of it looks good, yeah, for sure, but just like the Old Spidey Cartoons can't match Ditko or Romita.
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
@OropherThranduil I thought they did a pretty decent rendition of Ditko's art on the Spidey toon tho. Sure it wasn't 100%, but it was in range (maybe 70%). As long as the art hit's the ball park figure, I'm cool with it because 70-90% is a large chunk. You can tell that they're trying to follow the art (plus realist art is hard to draw frame for frame, toony art is easier). I thought that "the New Adventures of Superman" cartoon was definitely Curt Swan and the Fleischer is def JoeShuster
ComicBookGo 2 months ago
yeah, the fleishcger superman loooked awesome, as i said, 40s animation just had some kind of tightness perfection too it that the more on the loose 60s style can't match ImO.
Yeah realism is harder to draw, and that's a reason why Curt Swan's Superman was so distinctive back then i think, he just had a perfect sense of Bodys and faces, unlike Jack Kirby for example, who's perfect for action, but some of his people look like deformed monsters, and some of his characters
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
@OropherThranduil I agree 100% w/u on Kirbys people, they werent as realistic as most comic book art, but it was still good.His forte was definitely action on how he would actually use Angles, a concept not even conceived before, and showing multiple events happening in one shot. Curts action was also good but basic than Kirbys and man his women were pretty and just the realism is elegant. Aside from it's animation, Flieshers drawings actually LOOKED like Shusters.
ComicBookGo 2 months ago
Oh yeah, the Fleischer Brothers were awesome.
I mean the man who did most for Animation surely was Walt Disney himself, Snow White alone gives him that position, inventing the animated future film. despite everybody telling him nobody would watch it, i love the special oscar he got for it, (one big and 7 little statues).
Did you read some carl barks or Don Rosa Comics?
My 2 favorite Disney Artists, in german comic scene superheroes aren't too important, more francobelgian, itlaian and disney.
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
@OropherThranduil I got a few of DonRosa, he's GREAT. Sorry cant say I kno CarlBarks. Fact is, originally "comicBook" means literally FunnyBooks (hence comic) so truly the real comics are those first funny-toony art like Mickey Mouse,DonalDuck,Popeye,ect. I'm not really familiar w/the abstract toony stuff honestly, I just love their animations and T&J is the best. When Suprman came Sheroes made the industry successful, I think WillEisner is a nice balance between the two; toony+Sprheroes.
ComicBookGo 2 months ago
@ComicBookGo
you really should give barks a read, he's really one of the alltime greatest comic book writers/artists, he's funny, he even made a political statement about the vietnam war in 66 in the story Treasure of Marco Polo, spielberg and lucas are big fans of him, a sequence from one of carls best advenuture stories, called The Seven Cities of Cibola, inspired the opening sequence with the idol and the rolling stone, there's a dial b for blog article on it.
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
@ComicBookGo
Barks mostly did 10 pagers, most where with donald and the nephews, the 10 pagers where gag stories for the most, for the advenutre stories he's got up to 30 pages per storie, and boy, does he use them.
Or when he drew Mein Kampf lying on the Trashyard, you should try to get some of his work, and Don, i love Rosa, his life and times of scrooge mcduck, he deserved his eisner for it, collection every barks reference about scrooges life and making it one huge awesome story.
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
here's a quote i found:
Writer-artist Will Eisner called him "the Hans Christian Andersen of comic books."
The quality of his scripts and drawings earned him the nicknames The Duck Man and The Good Duck Artist (because back then at disney they still wanted the kids to believe disney did everything by himself, while DC also didn#t use names Mort and co still had no problem mentioning them in letters and so on, but it was impossible to know who that artists was, so the nickname came to be) .
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
@ComicBookGo
And you know what gives Don even more extra points for me?
Back in the 60s he had all the disney comcis from his sister, getting older he sold them and got everything he could from the superman line, jimmy olsen, lois lane, superman, action comics, he has every marvel and Dc comics from the silver age, he also started buiying complete bronze age runs, but sold them becausde he didn't like it.
His favorite Superheroe Artists are the 2 big C/Kurts, Curt Swan and Kurt Schaffenberger.
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
@ComicBookGo
, like cap and johnny storm, look pretty close to one another while Curt on the other hand gave every Legionaire distinctive Features and even Hairdos, ImO he's an overlooked Giant, i wonder what he would have looked like doing marvel, i mean when Jack did Olsen and the new Gods it looked more like a Marvel, i think Curt could have quite well adopted a bit to the marvel style.
OropherThranduil 2 months ago
Just five stars? I need six stars for Super Freaking Awesome.
AmBoy00 2 years ago 2
This is amazing. Scott Kurtz you are a lucky man.
crimsonvampyre602 2 years ago 4
Haha XD
I don't know if he has 3 or 4 fingers,
BUT I know that this video deserves 5 stars!!!
It's wonderful to see a master of comic book art actually drawing somthing!
Thank very much for this insight!
WUNDENFLAMME 2 years ago
Thanks Neal!!!
Merry Christmas!!!
:-D
WUNDENFLAMME 2 years ago