i think the biggest test of all is that any Morgan dollar coin that is magnetic is NOT REAL , whether the weight is the correct one or not...or if the coin is not marked as fake, if it is magnetic it is FAKE!!!, i have a question...if a coin is not marked as reproduction then would it be a counterfeited one and therefore against the law? how can anybody sell them on e-bay?
i just started collecting and recieved my first morgan dollar. It ways 27.4 grams and 422 grains just a bit on the high side. Are every dollar spot on in weight or will they be a few grain off? if one is worn will it be a bit lighter? i may need to invest in a better scale my dime range from 2.4 to 2.6 in weight. any input or links greatly appreciated.
GREAT NEWS: turns out my 1889 cc coin is real and that because the con dealer i saw had 2...they said its easy to tell a real one from a fake one and right away the dealer said it was rea...and it probably the BIGGEST coin dealer in Denver
hey thanks for the video...i had a question....i have 1889 morgan dollar that im nervous isnt real..i did your test...it has no marking of copy that i can see, not magnetic at all...now the only thing is that my coin doesnt look 100% opposite of its reverse slide...its looks shifted very slightly...not real noticeable....from pictures and from what i have been told by my father 9who is a experienced coin collector) that its genuine...any comments or ideas maybe suggestions?
@ai3n10 You got it. Thanks for the comment. If I were you I would weigh it...if you have another Morgan or Peace Dollar you know is real, the scale will read the exact same weight as the 1889 you are concerned about.
If you don't have a scale, a very easy way to find out would be to bring it to a local coin store and ask what they would give you for it. They don't want to buy a fake, so they would use their "expert eye" and let you know if it's a fake. Don't let on that you think it's a fake!
@Petros7373 And whatever you do, if they tell you it's a reproduction but they will buy it from you anyway, DO NOT sell it! An honest dealer would have no need to buy a fake.
@Petros7373 ok like my father told me when i first accuried it is that you can tell very easy a fake morgan from a real one (he had 250 with a fake one in the middle) thats how come he says he can tell...also i a lil less worried that its a morgan and more worried that the Mintmark was added
@ai3n10 weigh them first. morgan dollar weighs 26.7 grams the fake one's usually weighs 23 grams or less. second measure their diameter, third do a ping test. my advice is that if you want a morgan dollar buy those with cartwheel effect. fake morgan's don't have any cartwheel effect.
i look @ coins all day for living... i just spot one the other day; believe it or not, it was fake BUT actually the weight was little MORE than a regular morgan !!!???
I never knew these were out there, although, I have heard of some Chinese junk going around.
Never felt comfortable with the known circulation of fakes and then getting stuck with any of them while knowing better.
So, I only buy from solid reputable dealers. It's like getting good medicine from the pharmacist or going out in the hood for it, the choice is yours.
These are most likely Chinese counterfeits made using laser graphic technology. They're also doing Peace dollars, ASE's and many other rare numismatic coins. Someone sent me some fake 'magnetic' Peace Dollars in a roll a few years ago. Best to buy from reputable sources... and stay away from Ebay.
@JP5466 While it is always safer to buy from reputable sources, ebay is still a good source for coins. You just have to make sure you know what you are looking for and what you are looking at. Almost all fake silver coins including these can still be determined fake just by looking at them. They are not perfect and will have some type of difference in lettering or something. Also if a coin you bought is a fake, you should be able to get a refund from the seller or ebay.
when i buy junk silver i always make an acid test,ping test,weight test an so on,i know with the acid test it takes off the numismatic value who cares its junk silver !!! so with that done i'm sure that what i bought it's the real deal.
@afsoldr Dropping it can cause damage. You can do a simply 'ping' test: balance the silver dollar on your finger and gently tap the side of it with a pencil.
@oldtimefreedom Yes, great point. Like I said, it really surprised me (and frankly scared me) that there were no COPY markings on these...I mean, doesn't that make them counterfeits? How many of these are floating around on eBay listed as geniunes? Not that I ever would, but I could EASILY list one of these and rip someone out of $30.
i think the biggest test of all is that any Morgan dollar coin that is magnetic is NOT REAL , whether the weight is the correct one or not...or if the coin is not marked as fake, if it is magnetic it is FAKE!!!, i have a question...if a coin is not marked as reproduction then would it be a counterfeited one and therefore against the law? how can anybody sell them on e-bay?
besamemucho5 3 days ago
i just started collecting and recieved my first morgan dollar. It ways 27.4 grams and 422 grains just a bit on the high side. Are every dollar spot on in weight or will they be a few grain off? if one is worn will it be a bit lighter? i may need to invest in a better scale my dime range from 2.4 to 2.6 in weight. any input or links greatly appreciated.
Chris78525 4 days ago
GREAT NEWS: turns out my 1889 cc coin is real and that because the con dealer i saw had 2...they said its easy to tell a real one from a fake one and right away the dealer said it was rea...and it probably the BIGGEST coin dealer in Denver
ai3n10 3 weeks ago
@ai3n10 AWESOME! Thanks for the update. So happy for you :)
Petros7373 3 weeks ago
hey thanks for the video...i had a question....i have 1889 morgan dollar that im nervous isnt real..i did your test...it has no marking of copy that i can see, not magnetic at all...now the only thing is that my coin doesnt look 100% opposite of its reverse slide...its looks shifted very slightly...not real noticeable....from pictures and from what i have been told by my father 9who is a experienced coin collector) that its genuine...any comments or ideas maybe suggestions?
ai3n10 3 weeks ago
@ai3n10 You got it. Thanks for the comment. If I were you I would weigh it...if you have another Morgan or Peace Dollar you know is real, the scale will read the exact same weight as the 1889 you are concerned about.
If you don't have a scale, a very easy way to find out would be to bring it to a local coin store and ask what they would give you for it. They don't want to buy a fake, so they would use their "expert eye" and let you know if it's a fake. Don't let on that you think it's a fake!
Petros7373 3 weeks ago
@Petros7373 And whatever you do, if they tell you it's a reproduction but they will buy it from you anyway, DO NOT sell it! An honest dealer would have no need to buy a fake.
Petros7373 3 weeks ago
@Petros7373 Get a 2nd or 3rd opinion.
Petros7373 3 weeks ago
@Petros7373 ok like my father told me when i first accuried it is that you can tell very easy a fake morgan from a real one (he had 250 with a fake one in the middle) thats how come he says he can tell...also i a lil less worried that its a morgan and more worried that the Mintmark was added
ai3n10 3 weeks ago
@ai3n10 weigh them first. morgan dollar weighs 26.7 grams the fake one's usually weighs 23 grams or less. second measure their diameter, third do a ping test. my advice is that if you want a morgan dollar buy those with cartwheel effect. fake morgan's don't have any cartwheel effect.
TheSilverlover999 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from Petros7373
petros, chk out the work i'm doing on testing these morgans/peace dollars. Keep up the good fight. Hate this Chinese junk coming in.
SILVERMAGNETSLIDE 4 months ago
Another warning, don't get cheated like I did. I bought 5-one gram silver pcs for $15.00.
Darrell1019 5 months ago
i look @ coins all day for living... i just spot one the other day; believe it or not, it was fake BUT actually the weight was little MORE than a regular morgan !!!???
watch out silver brothers....chinas
manu707070 5 months ago
I never knew these were out there, although, I have heard of some Chinese junk going around.
Never felt comfortable with the known circulation of fakes and then getting stuck with any of them while knowing better.
So, I only buy from solid reputable dealers. It's like getting good medicine from the pharmacist or going out in the hood for it, the choice is yours.
Thanx for sharing!
yaahme 5 months ago
Great vid.
These are most likely Chinese counterfeits made using laser graphic technology. They're also doing Peace dollars, ASE's and many other rare numismatic coins. Someone sent me some fake 'magnetic' Peace Dollars in a roll a few years ago. Best to buy from reputable sources... and stay away from Ebay.
JP5466 5 months ago
@JP5466 While it is always safer to buy from reputable sources, ebay is still a good source for coins. You just have to make sure you know what you are looking for and what you are looking at. Almost all fake silver coins including these can still be determined fake just by looking at them. They are not perfect and will have some type of difference in lettering or something. Also if a coin you bought is a fake, you should be able to get a refund from the seller or ebay.
MrRandysh 4 weeks ago
when i buy junk silver i always make an acid test,ping test,weight test an so on,i know with the acid test it takes off the numismatic value who cares its junk silver !!! so with that done i'm sure that what i bought it's the real deal.
buggymak 5 months ago
A simple test is the "ring" test; if you drop a silver coin on a hard surface it has a very distinct ring; all others, not the same.
afsoldr 5 months ago
@afsoldr Dropping it can cause damage. You can do a simply 'ping' test: balance the silver dollar on your finger and gently tap the side of it with a pencil.
JP5466 5 months ago
Good info. THanks for posting!
acadamiacs 5 months ago
@acadamiacs You got it...thanks for the post!
Petros7373 4 months ago
What the hell you want copies for?
Hyperborea2012 5 months ago
Good vid Petros, thanks - you can never be too careful these days.
SGTbull07 5 months ago
@SGTbull07 Thank YOU sir...very much appreciated.
Petros7373 5 months ago
Cheers bro, good informative video.
Scares the shit outa me though. The fakes look great :(
misterpants666 5 months ago
If should make people wonder what's inside their "Junk Silver Bags"
BMWg84 5 months ago
I was ALL EYES. This is material that needs to start hitting YT on a daily or at least weekly basis. Excellent! btw I'm 'stealing' it, thanks : )
acuriousbeast 5 months ago
@acuriousbeast No problem...thank YOU!
Petros7373 5 months ago
how come these guys don't get in trouble for counterfitting and the liberty dollar folks do??? great vid.
oldtimefreedom 5 months ago
@oldtimefreedom Yes, great point. Like I said, it really surprised me (and frankly scared me) that there were no COPY markings on these...I mean, doesn't that make them counterfeits? How many of these are floating around on eBay listed as geniunes? Not that I ever would, but I could EASILY list one of these and rip someone out of $30.
Thank you for the support. All my best to you!
Petros7373 5 months ago