TWA 800 breakup animation

[starwarsfandude]

I thought the cockpit section had plummeted straight downwards. And I thought the plane broke into three sections?

[coffeecation]

Despite the debate on a dynamics of a 400 km/h plus wind into a gaping hole, vs what was left of the planes lift properties, look at the photos of the reconstructed parts of the plane and you will see that the centre tank did not rip outwards but "detonated" within itself and theres an inwards warping hole in the metal indicative of penetration from an external object. Intensive study of aircraft accidents continue to proliferate propaganda to abate legal claims or military incompetence.

[MsMoonMaiden]

this is total bullshit. its impossible for a plane to do that. im 17 and barely pay attention in physics and even i know that wouldnt happen. that plane would fill up with air and flip around. like throwing an empty cigarette tube. same difference. i cant believe how dumb they think we are.

[danmanlott]

@MsMoonMaiden hes right lets all listen to the 17 year, not the scientists that explained how and why this happened.

[blueb0g]

@MsMoonMaiden Sounds like you have a lot of experience with difficult aerodynamic concepts, and you are in a perfect position to challenge NTSB investigators on this issue. I confess, I had never actually thought about the aicraft - in your eloquent words - "filling up with air and flipping around" - like an "empty cigrarette tube". Are you actually retarded or something?

[patko1610]

9/11 wass been conspiracy most probably buuut .. i dont think this one was one it was been accident coz both teories wloud came up with same consequencies bus some stuff puts more into that blow uop theory

[groentjealkmaar]

It was a missile TWA800.C0M

[DamonsSon]

CHINA AIRLINES 611 IS QUITE SIMALER

[JohnnieNaked]

If the nose fell off the center of lift would shift to the FRONT and the jet would dive like a fucking rock. This video is ridiculous.

[ODOMAN123]

@JohnnieNaked you're an idiot.

[GTAstuntman101]

@JohnnieNaked if thats the case, it will STILL go up, the Center of lift shud go BACK

for it to dive

[freakyflow]

@JohnnieNaked Have you ever been on a see saw as a kid ??? what happens when your friend jumps off his sit? Now think of your friend as the nose of the plane

Lift, Drag, Weight, Thurst. The fundimentals of flight. Losing the nose changed the weight of the plane towards the back and changing the centre of gravity Once the wings pitched upwards..Even alittle, The engines were still on. And speed was exchanged for height till it stalled and dropped

[GTAstuntman101]

if you wanted your proof, you have it!

[bionicleguru2]

thanks for the proof ur an assheaded liar

[bionicleguru2]

im talking to GTAstuntman

[jgotley]

hey wait a minute you like bionicles? cos i like them too-im just a kid but kids know a lot of things and at least have imaginations as to why the plane crashed. and i have a good vocabulary

[GTAstuntman101]

now i got my profile fixed, now, do you belive? richard?

[richardcameron]

No.

[GTAstuntman101]

now retired since january 2009

ihe rise is caused by an imbalance, the nose fell off, right? so there is an imbalance, there is no weight to balance the plane, the tail is now being pulled down, and the plane flies up, with flight speed of 600 km/h or more, and the engines feeding in their own wing tanks, the plane flies up

[richardcameron]

The debate between us ended when you claimed to be an FAA flight investigator.  And you're not.

How could anyone believe you now?

[GTAstuntman101]

how dare you critisise an investigator????

just because i am retired?

what a dick.

[richardcameron]

You were never an FAA investigator. You're a liar.  You can't even spell.

[GTAstuntman101]

and by the way, my friend is an NTSB investigator. we both support this video.

[richardcameron]

You live in the Philippines. There is no FAA office in the Philippines. Not one.

That explains why you do not give your name. Because you are a pathetic loser.

So your claim to have a 'friend' with the NTSB who supports the video is laughable. Name him or suck dick.

[GTAstuntman101]

u do suck dick, i'm AT vacation in the philippines, u just heard wrong.

[richardcameron]

Oh, now you're not an FAA crash investigator living in the Philippines, but an American FAA crash investigator "at" vacation in the philippines, so I just "heard" wrong?

YOUR OWN PROFILE SAYS YOU LIVE IN THE PHILIPPINES.

So I didn't "hear" wrong. I heard nothing about you at all because you are a nobody masquerading as an American FAA crash investigator who doesn't know proper English.

One is not AT vacation. One is ON vacation.

Loser, stop talking about my dick. Are you queer?

[GTAstuntman101]

i'm talking about your dickass lol

[richardcameron]

when you're caught in a lie, its best to just to fade away rather than compound one like with another and make yourself into a complete idiot for the world to see. I see no one coming to your defense and testifying to your work as an air crash investigator with the FAA. Do you know the address of the FAA in New York? Can you name the building restaurant across the street ground level?

[GTAstuntman101]

and one reason it gone up like that is that it was travelling at 650 km/h, so that's what caused the body to soar upwards.

[richardcameron]

Let me get this straight, Mr. FAA flight investigator who lives in the Philippines... The plane rose b/c of flight speed?

Going fast makes planes go up for a sustained flight, even when that plane has no nose?

Even when that plane has no weight in front of the wings?

Even when the front of the plane has been sheered off, exposing four stories of passenger and cargo space. Aerodynamically, you believe there's no problem with that, and that the plane would rise thousands of feet?

[GTAstuntman101]

yes, Mr.smartass, the plane's elburium got destroyed by the nose breakup, and the engines WERE still running when the body soared upwards(the wing tanks stayed intact), fueled by the fuel inside those tanks, but at 4,000+ altitude, the plane stalled, ALL done by the plane itself.

[georgesturdy]

thats crap several heavy jet pilots said during a documentary about this that it is impossible for a plane to climb after it lost its nose it would have dropped like a brick

[GTAstuntman101]

those pilots arent investigators

here is the scientific sequence of events about the TWA 800:

the nose falls off, the tail is being pulled down, the plane flies up with it's engines running

[georgesturdy]

no but all pilots must know physics and they say its physically impossible for this to happen

[badasscat]

Who is "they"? What pilots said this? Have you actually even read the accident report?

[georgesturdy]

theres a documentary on youtube about this crash and how it was shot down and they interviewed pilots who flew jumbos and they spoke on camera about how this is impossible. i last seen this documentary in 2007 i think its still on here

[governmentcheese411]

Impossible...your and idiot dude for real. get offline and stay off. we're all dumber for having had to read your post.

[rafalweb]

What the fuck is "elburium? Is it from the table of elements?

[GTAstuntman101]

@rafalweb elburium is, in simple terms, the state of balance

[rafalweb]

@GTAstuntman101

OMG.  I know. I'm referring to the spelling. People can't spell. It's Equilibrium.

[richardcameron]

Complete bullshit. A plane can't rise with all its weight over and behind the wings. Aerodynamically impossible. Find a single pilot or aerospace engineer outside the NTSB/CIA to support this animation, if you can. There are none.

[acetorben]

just a thought, but doesnt that move the cg waaaaaaay back? if all the weights at the tail, the tail falls, so u get a higher angle of attack which is what u need to take off and climb right?

anyways, its just a though, im not trying to start a geeky arguement here, just thinking lol :)

[richardcameron]

acetorbin, i agree, with the nose gone, the plane points higher, vertical even. But to sustain that angle and climb requires massive thrust.

The recent crash outside Chicago shows what can happen when the nose of a plane is abruptly pulled back.

The commercial pilot recorded reported the flash was at altitude with 800 and testified that it dropped like a stone.

Why would the NTSB not want to speak to him?

I'm no conspiracy nut job. Not even Boeing supports this animation.

[acetorben]

lol i thought the animation was some homemade thing tbh :) but i get what u mean, also i supose if the nose was 'blown off' (to be honest i didnt even know there was a conspiracy abt this crash untill i read some of the other comments lol) and going that speed it would kind of blow the plane up, not as in explosives like c4 etc, but would all that air being forced into the pretty much sealed tube of the fuselage, would the air pressure push it apart from the inside?

[GTAstuntman101]

ur a bull shit yourself, i support this animation, i'm an air crash investigator.

[richardcameron]

air crash investigator for who?........ name the agency, give the location.

[GTAstuntman101]

r u retarded? i'm an FAA investigator lool, so ur a bullshit, and i'll hide my real name from the public.

[richardcameron]

You're not with the FAA. You're a pathetic loser who claims to be with the FAA.

You live in the Philippines according to your YouTube page. There are no FAA officials in the Philippines.

Not to mention, no current FAA investigator would comment on a public forum regarding the conclusions of an investigation.

Also, the FAA requires that you write English better than a retarded child.

Get a life.

[rafalweb]

If you were an FAA investigator, and you held any value for your job, you wouldn't be discussing this crash on youtube with strangers.

[titanicman37]

Hello. Before I enter the conversation I would like to say I'm just a kid, but I have been studying planes and aerodynamics for some time.Anyway, sadly, that so- called "investigator" has a point. Planes are heavier at the front, and when the nose is ripped off, as in this case, the center of gravity changes and the plane tilts upward. The engines in this case were still working, and propelled the plane upward. The plane quickly stalled, because of the gaping hole, and THEN fell like a rock.

[Teigokane]

@titanicman37 Very well explained. And hey, why do you say you were JUST a kid? You might be a kid but a kid with very profound knowledge, and your comment was more qualified and competent than most adult comments I have read about the so called TWA 800 "conspiracy" so far.

[titanicman37]

@Teigokane Thank you very much for the generous reply!

Gosh its, been over a whole year! I wouldn't consider myself a kid anymore...I'm well into my teens.

Again, thanks for the kind words!

[600SELV12]

NTSB & CIA's 800 animation are contradictary & hogwash.

[nalgasnad]

lolololololololololoz

[hartley8184]

The plane was shot down by terrorists in a small boat. Research this story on the internet. See for yourself.

[jagenigma]

This isn't a conspiracy. It was only believed to be terrorists because of a terrorist being put on trial because of the 1993 wtc bombings. That had nothing to do with TWA Flight 800. The explosion happened because of a short circuit in a wire heading in to the fuel tank that monitors fuel levels. The planes' fuel was way over heated. That caused fumes to form and they ingited with the short circuit. This was a tragedy. The FAA didn't inspect the plane. It was one of TWA's oldest planes.

[Morphesolaz]

scary death

[c6482]

You should all watch TWA 800 downed by Surface-to-Air Missile, here on YouTube. It presents hard evidence of a cover-up...

It opened my eyes and where I initially believed the NTSB's saying it was a mechanical failure (center wing tank explosion due to explosive vapour), I know believe in the "cover-up" theory. Check it out...

[NewYorksFinest111]

but i watched seconds from disaster they said it was wrong but look at 9/11 no one knows the truth but there was a cover up

[iorr98]

The nose fall = cg moves back = tail drops = pitch up .

I would guess that the plane would only gain a few hundred feet before stalling as the tail keeps dropping, Does the recorder data really supports that animation??

[awc71]

that's why i don't fly!!!

[superebakcarlos]

this really happened 1996

[Arch91]

Well you cant exactly blame them for killing 13,000 people. Most of these crashes were because of pilot error while only a few crashes are because design or mechanical error.

[kbbcoop]

actually I was in the cockpit and that is about what happened..

[wildturkey1]

I am very sorry people. I have studied physics and engineering. The explanation in this video conforms to many basic aeronautical principles. Sometimes its fun to believe in conspiracies (these days everyone want to bash the US Government). Sorry to spoil your fun, this was just an accident. Although it could have been the Roswell aliens beaming Dick Cheney over into the fuel tanks to plant shoe bomb!!!

[DTWJetBlast]

Even without the nose, the plain still has momentum and the wings attached. So yes, it could keep flying... but for a very short period of time.

[yaosux]

actually, you're wrong. Study physics, it could continue flying, but it would no longer climb.

Stupid.

[DTWJetBlast]

I never said that it would climb...

[COLOURIOT]

with out the nose, the plane's C.G is moved back towards the rear of the plane. that combined with the thrust of the engines and lift of the wings will cause it to pitch up and climb. you should not say 'study phisics' when you dont know what you are talking about

[cchris874]

"with out the nose, the plane's C.G is moved back towards the rear of the plane. that combined with the thrust of the engines and lift of the wings will cause it to pitch up and climb. you should not say 'study phisics' when you dont know what you are talking about"

That said, the radar data don't support a zoom climb.

[flytw75]

that didnt happen and could never happen.

A noseless,controlless airplane climbing over 3200ft, do they expect us to believe this?

[WarOfTheKnights]

That happened. It raised, but at 4600 FT, it stalled.

[flytw75]

it stalled when the nose fell off, not after climbing thousands of feet with no controls and no front half

[WarOfTheKnights]

Wait really? After the nose fell, climb and stall animation, right?

[carlosperea92]

The engines were still running. The airplane started climbing as a result of having the center of gravity was tilted back. It doesn't need to have the nose attached to climb. It helps, though.