it must have been so gratifying for zappa to finally have his music played by an ensemble able to do it. can you imagine working your entire life to reach something. im sure this ment alto to him
I don't think you can really compare Beethoven's Symphonies to Zappa's neo-classical works because they are two totally different musical era's. BUT in retrospect of innovated, eccentric, outgoing, strongly opinionated and ballsy pieces of work. They are all master pieces and both can be compared as great composers and geniuses.
@Hyardacil I happen to agree with you. In my opinion, Zappa, along with Ellington are two of the greatest composers of the 20th century. (btw, I like Beethoven but I think this is much better then his 9th.)
@Pliquer Oh agreed definitely. I wasn't implying that all those you mentioned be sub-par to the standard set to these two names, rather I took one of the name of these greats that associate with each other simply in their... greatness in music, I guess, and elevated this piece or Zappa in general to that level.
That was the idea of that sentence.
And it is of course not objective, nor striving to be so, as most youtube comments aren't.
Der Meister! "Wenn in 200 Jahren über die Geschichte der Rockmusik geschrieben wird, steht Frank Zappas Name ganz oben!" Terry Bozio (Drummer bei Frank Zappa)
Und ebenfalls, wenn über den Humor in der Musik geschrieben werden wird. [AR]
@Lucanostro Beato te...vai che ce fai! Se hai modo di registrare e mandare su youtube sarebbe fantastico! In bocca al lupo e fammi sapere ciao Vinicio
@OpethToolMetallica Well, this piece isn't well known, rendering it unusual and difficult for your average orchestra member. It is easier to play what you have played many times.
That's a rather unconvincing response, the instrumentation is quite similar to other 20nd century classical music. Even if it were different, that itself still wouldn't mean it would be difficult to play.
@OpethToolMetallica So you are saying that if a group has played the same Metallica song over 100 times and you present that same group of musicians a song by the Mars Volta that they are not familiar with, they will be able to pull it off the same way they did with the Metallica song that they probably know by heart? And with the same ease? That is all I was saying... Wasting time on a Metallica fan, stupid me.
It's you that's the idiot indeed, and you're trying to hide it by saying I'm stupid because of my name - and only imbeciles resort to fallacies like that. An idiot because you failed to make any logical or relevant point. What you're saying (almost) never applies to the real world. No good musician not to mention a musician in an orchestra would excel in (classical) music of type A and be unfamiliar to type B. Think before you post, or don't if you can't.
@OpethToolMetallica I must be an idiot, and Idiot Bastard Son. "No good musician not to mention a musician in an orchestra would excel in (classical) music of type A and be unfamiliar to type B." You still don't understand my original point. If you repeat the same action with a high frequency, regardless of the task, you will begin to excel at it. Remember the first time you tried to do something you have currently mastered, you didn't do it well, right?
@qualifulproducts check on line...found a DVD of one of the concerts which i believe there were three nights..it's the full playlist...a very good quality bootleg taken from German television..great sound and great picture...a must have documenting Frank's last public stage appearances...
Nothing short of Excellent! Frank Zappa was always searching for the elements of various sound. This piece is another example of Zappa's on-going contribution to NEW music and diversity. Thanks for giving us your brilliance, Frank!
Even today ahead of his time.
hamburg205 3 weeks ago
Why talk about Metallica or metal on a Zappa compostion. Metallica or anybody else can't
compete with Zappa's genius.
dollhaus1 1 month ago
it must have been so gratifying for zappa to finally have his music played by an ensemble able to do it. can you imagine working your entire life to reach something. im sure this ment alto to him
shadowmalik009 2 months ago
....Genial.................!!!!!
Poldi5160 3 months ago
Pure genius.
bertly71 4 months ago
fuzzy dice,bongos in the back !
bz4youandyou 5 months ago
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ilackedtheheart 5 months ago
I don't think you can really compare Beethoven's Symphonies to Zappa's neo-classical works because they are two totally different musical era's. BUT in retrospect of innovated, eccentric, outgoing, strongly opinionated and ballsy pieces of work. They are all master pieces and both can be compared as great composers and geniuses.
hippedoutfiolif3 6 months ago
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hippedoutfiolif3 6 months ago
this oboe lady makes such a fun sound!
amistrymister 6 months ago
@Pliquer Hyperbole.
I make no attempts as objectivity, as I already said.
Hyardacil 7 months ago
@Hyardacil I happen to agree with you. In my opinion, Zappa, along with Ellington are two of the greatest composers of the 20th century. (btw, I like Beethoven but I think this is much better then his 9th.)
mightyafrowhitey 6 months ago 2
@Pliquer Oh agreed definitely. I wasn't implying that all those you mentioned be sub-par to the standard set to these two names, rather I took one of the name of these greats that associate with each other simply in their... greatness in music, I guess, and elevated this piece or Zappa in general to that level.
That was the idea of that sentence.
And it is of course not objective, nor striving to be so, as most youtube comments aren't.
Hyardacil 7 months ago
Love Frank Zappa Now!
FranKairos 8 months ago
I'd love to see somebody offer their own orchestral take on Captain Beefheart.
Malkmusianful 8 months ago 2
Just amazing..... This is the first time I have seen this; THANKS TO GAIL ZAPPA NOT taking this down....pfft...so fucking stupid...
analyzingfunny 9 months ago
heavenly music.
suginami123 9 months ago
Music lovers and cultured people in general should listen in their lifetime at least once:
1) Beethovens 9th
2) This.
Hyardacil 11 months ago 25
@Hyardacil and Mahler 7th
pespibass 7 months ago in playlist Frank Zappa
@Hyardacil
I agree, and would like to add to your list:
Shostakovich's 7th ;-)
Kolliain 2 weeks ago
Der Meister! "Wenn in 200 Jahren über die Geschichte der Rockmusik geschrieben wird, steht Frank Zappas Name ganz oben!" Terry Bozio (Drummer bei Frank Zappa)
Und ebenfalls, wenn über den Humor in der Musik geschrieben werden wird. [AR]
MrJoshmeyer 1 year ago
Dog Breath is one of my absolute fave FZ compositions.
thatdarnrobbo 1 year ago
how could you not like this?
Maza675 1 year ago
I don't know Zappa's favourite classical composers, but I guess Stravinsky was among them...
zonaras83 1 year ago
@zonaras83 you would be correct in your assumption
thequagmire421 1 year ago
@zonaras83 You are absolutely rigth!! Besides Stravinsky, Edgard Varèse and Anton Webern had a great influence on him!
yasminamran5 1 year ago
Arg, stupid people clapping during the performance.
unknownkingdom 1 year ago 3
Brilliant. Sublime. Perfect.
Kitsua 1 year ago
WOAH didn't even know there was video of this. Thank you!!!!!
supernaut342 1 year ago 6
the man was a genuis
loislombardo 1 year ago
crazy !
lunatik75vnr 1 year ago
I have to play it on 4th of February at Auditorium Parco della Musica in Rome, please play for meee..
Lucanostro 1 year ago 3
@Lucanostro
wanted to say..pray for me..!
Lucanostro 1 year ago
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youvinicio 1 year ago
Thrilling and powerful!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
jesusquinterom 1 year ago
Totally captivating.....being an avid consumer of his music
over the decades.
harpdoodle 1 year ago
fa-bu-leux ! merci !!!!!!!
theHellzapoppin 1 year ago
beautiful.
barkingpumpkin90 1 year ago
finally someone put it on!
gvndud 1 year ago
love it!
rick4777 1 year ago
this is so good!!!
mightyafrowhitey 1 year ago
it takes quite a skilled and diverse orchestra to play zappa.
iansquared3 1 year ago 27
@iansquared3
I don't see how this in any way would require more skill than any other well-known classical piece.
OpethToolMetallica 1 month ago
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panamaredone 1 month ago
@OpethToolMetallica Well, this piece isn't well known, rendering it unusual and difficult for your average orchestra member. It is easier to play what you have played many times.
panamaredone 1 month ago
@panamaredone
That's a rather unconvincing response, the instrumentation is quite similar to other 20nd century classical music. Even if it were different, that itself still wouldn't mean it would be difficult to play.
OpethToolMetallica 1 month ago
@OpethToolMetallica So you are saying that if a group has played the same Metallica song over 100 times and you present that same group of musicians a song by the Mars Volta that they are not familiar with, they will be able to pull it off the same way they did with the Metallica song that they probably know by heart? And with the same ease? That is all I was saying... Wasting time on a Metallica fan, stupid me.
panamaredone 1 month ago
@panamaredone
It's you that's the idiot indeed, and you're trying to hide it by saying I'm stupid because of my name - and only imbeciles resort to fallacies like that. An idiot because you failed to make any logical or relevant point. What you're saying (almost) never applies to the real world. No good musician not to mention a musician in an orchestra would excel in (classical) music of type A and be unfamiliar to type B. Think before you post, or don't if you can't.
OpethToolMetallica 1 month ago
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@OpethToolMetallica I must be an idiot, and Idiot Bastard Son. "No good musician not to mention a musician in an orchestra would excel in (classical) music of type A and be unfamiliar to type B." You still don't understand my original point. If you repeat the same action with a high frequency, regardless of the task, you will begin to excel at it. Remember the first time you tried to do something you have currently mastered, you didn't do it well, right?
panamaredone 1 month ago
...especially that part!
qualifulproducts 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this! I always wanted to see that concert!
qualifulproducts 1 year ago
@qualifulproducts check on line...found a DVD of one of the concerts which i believe there were three nights..it's the full playlist...a very good quality bootleg taken from German television..great sound and great picture...a must have documenting Frank's last public stage appearances...
EndlessNot1 1 year ago
@EndlessNot1 OK, thanks!
qualifulproducts 1 year ago
This is purely genius
JackassKing95 1 year ago
Nothing short of Excellent! Frank Zappa was always searching for the elements of various sound. This piece is another example of Zappa's on-going contribution to NEW music and diversity. Thanks for giving us your brilliance, Frank!
MrPaulshields 1 year ago
blastbeats @ 5:28
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