Thomas culpeper was the only one who deserved that. he was the one who had an affair with catherine while she was married to henry. on top of that, he was a rapist and a murderer.
Culpepper gets beheaded for boning the queen while she was actually married to Henry, and Dereham gets hanged, drawn and quartered for doing it before he ever knew she'd be married to Henry. That's just fucked up.
Tamzin Merchant's voice is so beautifully suited to the letter. I love the way her voice hitches just a little at 1:04, just a slight change in tone. It betrays her emotional vulnerability.
@mcfcMacy Because she was with Dereham first Henry was an affair. That's why Henry was so horribly upset. He thought that all his dreams had been fulfilled in this one girl, a Virgin wife, a wife who did not argue with him, and even his dream of a daughter he loved. It's sad really how much he put on that poor girl. But by the law of the day Dereham was her husband.
too much suffering and pain shown in this video ..... cannot belive how people were in the middle ages really the tortures were painful indeed and i was'nt able to sleep 4 like 1 week or more
@Hardrada88 I descend from Henry VIII's illegitimate daughter Ethelreda. I have mostly English blood. I know my heritage. Henry did have his very good moments it seems, but he also had his very bad. This is one of his very bad moments, and I am not proud of it. No one has the right to take another person's life. I'm taking a class right now about European history...England has a much darker history than most like to think, it seems.
@D4Dinosor That is Katherine Howard, fifth wife of Henry VIII. She was beheaded a few months after this scene on 13th February 1542, possibly aged as young as 17. By the way, Culpeper and Dereham were executed on 10th December 1541, not the 8th as suggested here.
This film makes me feel sick though. I feel really sorry for Francis Dereham because how was he to know that she would become Queen one day, and it was like 4 years before she became Queen that she and Francis Dereham had a wedlock affair, but I'm surprised that they didn't do the same to Henry Manox, her old music teacher back at Lambeth, cos he had an affair with her 2. But Culpepper deserved all the pain he got- he was an ambitious but handsome and cunning idiot!!!!! Anyone agree with me?????
***So I can deduce from your words, Hardrada88,that you are not only a complete idiot, but a sadistic person too. A complete idiot for loving ancient kings' tyranny; and sadist for loving blood and cruelty. THANK GOD THAT FRENCH AND RUSSIAN REVOLUTIONS CUT SUCH TYRANTS' HEAD OFF. THIS IS THE OUR DEMOCRACIES ORIGIN.
Actually it was worse . He was hung , then taken down alive, his genitalia was cut off first. Then they removed his bowels and they were cooked in front of his eyes then he was cut into four pieces and beheaded.
different world, different time. they'd not understand us today so why expect to understand them then?.."Why are you so forgiving and lenient?" while we say "Why are you so barbaric" what is barbaric for one is normal for another.
This scene is inaccurate. The following was standard:
1.) Condemned was stripped nude.
2.) Condemned was hung briefly.
3.) Condemned was table tied, castrated & emasculated, then eviscerated excluding the lungs (so last screams could be enjoyed by all) -- saving the beating heart for last, all organs burned in the process, then the torso was sawed in half across, then decapitation, then the torso was sawed in half lengthwise. The quarters and head of the condemned were then displayed. :)
@QueenCatherineParr I think that particular brand of Christian teachings led people to become mentally unstable, and that's how they were able to enjoy such things. If you tell people that they will go to hell unless they are "good enough", of course it will mess with their minds.
Other countries were just as brutal as us, if not more, during this period of history. If you don't believe me, look up "Germany breaking on wheel" via google...
I dont see why she wouldnt have danced, she enjoyed dancing so it's quite possible. She still lived for another 2 months after this so it's unlikely she would have just done nothing.
Who knows what Katherine Howard did, other than ask for the block to be brought to her room. She was an ignorant teenager who could barely write who was used by her family to further their ambitions. Who'd not have any compassion, for such a girl? Few are those who truly deserve to die in such a way, none if you are truly a Christian.
Who knows what Katherine Howard did, other than ask for the block to be brought to her room. She was an ignorant teenager who could barely write who was used by her family to further their ambitions. Who'd not have any compassion, for such a girl? Few are those who truly deserve to die in such a way, none if you are truly a Christian.
Back in the middle ages, public executions were like sporting events. You gather, socialize, and cheer and clap as the condemned prisoners are killed. Theres even vendors selling snacks! And of course, after, you go dip your hankercheif iin blood as a souvineir. I can imaging a man going home to his family and saying "Hey kids! I brought you some blood from the execution. I really wish you were there! There was the awesome part where the executioner lifted his axe..."
I always felt [IMHO] that if Dereham hadn't come looking for Catherine, he would probably have been safe even IF the King had found out about him. I might be wrong, but...I guess we'll never know. b/b)O(
You would think Culpepper would get the harshest execution having slept with the kings wife. Sucks for Francis. If he would have kept his drunk mouth shut, he would have been fine. Stupid
@vyizgr8t The reason why Derehan recieves a harsher punishment is due to him being one of the aristocracy and therefore should have known better. In truth he was innocent of the charges brought against him. The only reason he was tortured and finally put to death was due to his account of what had happened clashed with Catherine Howards. He wasn't the only person to suffer this way during this period.
@marcN19 Believe me i understand his crime. What i mean is he didn't have to be there. He went about making life miserable for her and started running his mouth to everyone. And because of that, the King found out. And he got executed. He brought it on himself.
@vyizgr8t yep, he was a stupid idiot and didn't think of the consequences. Stupid man to forget he's living under the King's roof, everything is heard!
Ridiculous to criticise British history on the strength of a bloody TV show. But he was part of the process which made England an Empire. I remember seeing loads of comments from our American friends on YouTube who seem to be under the illusion that 'The Tudors' is some kind of historical document. Its a relatively inaccurate dramatisation. This isnt the OC you know. Times were hard, there were power struggles, people were devout and and the population needed to be ruled quite strongly.
I will just say it was rare for axes to cut in one blow. it's top heavy, so it crushes rather than cuts like a sword etc. It was common for two or more swing to sever the head..unlike one executioner who took 8 swings then ended up using a knife to cut the head off.
Makes me proud to be English to see some Americans, easterns, etc say we had shit history. Our country, and europe, and the world was forged by blood and by love. i love our history and heritage
@shobmeow exactly, we went through war after war, plague, internal struggle we briefly became a republic til the restoration. Go back to 793 and the first vikingur attack..i mean we're older than that even! beautiful country, some shit people but wonderful history.
@Mzthingtwo Thats an exception. Please don't be proud of the holocaust. Lol ;). Anyway, German history is not ALL genocide. There is some major history in them, especialy during the Napoleonic wars.
@vyizgr8t I'm glad you mentioned that your black. Why? because people often paint the picture that back in those days coloured people were just slaves, lower than animals. not true. See some medieval paintings. Musicians with black faces, crew on ships were all working ranks were equal even at trafalgar in 1808(?). Even going back to the viking era in Rus and constantinople the varangian guard, some black faces in their ranks. all history is colourful depending on how you look at it.
@spongebobslushpants1 Yep, and so tells the 17 likes that others are to. I know exactly where I come from and i'm proud of it and always will be. I know exactly who my forefathers were and how they helped shape this country. We always remember the negative, yes this happened but it was also an age of light and music and laughter. anyway this is 'hollywoods' interpretation. I can tell you how an traitors death was but it's more than that. How can you not be proud of your heritage?
@Hardrada88 i dont think so....even when you had a bloody age in england, i prefer the beautiful places and the many rich arts and plays you have.....god bless you all british for shakespear and his legendary romeo and juliet, for robin hood and his outlaws, for queen elizabeth 1, and for many famous british people in the history, really dude, i will go to england to see how beautiful your country is...and i love your weather too, greetings buddy
Even after seeing all of this, Henry is still one of the most likable characters in the series.
Anyway, how thick can you get? Does it require a giant IQ to know that having sex with the queen if you're not the king is a bad idea? And how can you be stupid enough to have yourself appointed secretary if you had an affair with the queen prior to her marriage?
@Foffyla Francis Dereham was executed for having sex with Katherine same with Thomas. In the show Henry says that he wanted Francis to suffer more because he ruined Katherine by having sex with her before they were married. He killed Thomas because he had sex with Katherine while they were married.
Usual tosh from this atrocious series. Dereham, who denounced Culpeper in a vain attempt to save himself, though he was guilty of nothing more than consensual sex with a willing young girl, was hung draw and quartered separately from Culpeper, who was far guiltier but was beheaded in private because of the residual liking the old monster once had for him.
@concealedknight Back then it was a tradition to keep the crowd going into hysteria and roiting. They thought the happy music would calm people down enough to in the kings/royalty's mind "pray for their codemned souls" is the way the Tudor Accounts put it. And the Tudor accounts were partially written by Henry himself. But the thinking behind it was to keep the calm over the crowd and a vain attempt to keep the codemned calm too. Didn't work though.
Boah, grausam... einfach nur grausam... früher mochte ich Johnathan Rhys Meyers so gerne.. aber durch die Rolle als tyrannischer Henry hat er viel Symphatie bei mir verloren... auch wenn er nur Schauspieler ist... aber seine Rolle ist ätzend!!!
@judcolgan I dont support what the IRA did in Britain at all, but the British have committed far worse atrocities in Ireland than were ever done by IRA bombs.
Ugh, I feel bad for both guys, especially the blond one, just cause he was a commoner his death had to be more difficult, but it's bad enough the two had to die but then people were throwing garbage at them and yelling at them, cheering on their deaths? ugh...
@HistoryLover1550 what for loving a queen who loved one out of the two????? history only tells this videos side of the story. but if you read the Tudor Accounts and the accounts of both Lady Katherine and of Culpepper you would find that there was a whole lot more going on then what history implies.
@countrywillneverdie i agree, she was very young and nieve when she married henry she saw only the glamourous side of being queen she didnt love henry, but unfortunatly for her she fell in love with culpepper, she wasnt just killed for that, she was killed because she wasnt a virgin when she married the king, obviously somthing we would all find absoutly ridiculous now a days but back then! you were shamful!
The executioner would never have been so cack-handed when performing a hanging, drawing and quartering. They developed the art of removing only the non-essential organs with the utmost care and precision to make sure that the victim stayed a live and in agony for as long as possible. The victim was usually alive and conscious when their head was removed.
Dereham was an idiot. If you were him, wouldn't you stay well away from court? I mean, if you knew that you had a relationship in the past with Henry VIII's wife, would you come and get appointed to her court and, then, get drunk and going round telling everyone that the queen used to be your girlfriend? I'd stay well away if I was him.
@bidarsho1972 You kidding me? The british has idiotic history? Britian was one of the best history's in the world.
This was not brutal for the time, this was dangerous times, it was not just the British who had these means of execution, the whole of the world did at this time, inluding Europe and the Middle East.
@laurenlfc48 NOT TO MENTION ONE OF THE MOST BLOODIEST. BUT, HATE TO TELL YOU BUT SPAIN HAS THE WHOLE WORLD BEAT. WHY??? TWO WORDS FOR YA'.... THE INQUISITION.
@countrywillneverdie Which is bullshit the Inquistion did beat anyone the Inquisition as lied about in your faggot propagan "history" books is a complete sham. The total to die suring the imaginary inquisition were 3,000 people total executed for 500 YEARS...it includes pirates, traitors, coward son the battlefield, moorish spies and a whole hsot of things and no the inquistiion did "rpesecutE" protestans or Jews those are silly myths created by those precious protected groups that do no wrong
@countrywillneverdie Henry murdered tens of thousands of catholics in the countryside and the Inquistion wasn't evil in nautre or in result and the silly bullshit about total number of dead doesn't even reach the Mongols on a bad day the whole 400-500 of the office of inquiry
@laurenlfc48 INDEED... from a comfortable couch position this all seems harsh and unnessecary, those were the days, nothing unusual. Nothing much has changed anyway. There's a lesson here though, avoid royalty like the black plague.
@LerouxsPhantom Henry felt that Dereham ruined Katherine for him, because he was her first lover. So he had the worst, because he wished for him to suffer. For Culpepper, he only knew the queen carnally after Henry, which resulted in his death. But he was also a former king's favorite, so he had a more "humane" death.
@Isobel31Swan The Park Keeper's wife. It was in the first episode of the 4th season. Then when the Park keeper confronts him about it and threatens to bring the law, he goes and kills him.
I really doubt it was real just for the sake of the show but if it was real, he had what was coming to him.
@bubblinbrownsugar616 Back in the days of yore the nobility were free to kill common folk as they pleased.
What I don't get is - why isn't JRM's Henry a big, fat, puss filled psychopath yet (he had a serious injury after he murdered Anne whic meant he couldn't exercise like he could before) and is he still the slim, relatively attractive psychopath?
@bubblinbrownsugar616 There was a Thomas Culpepper who committed a rape like the one seen in the show, but it was not the same man the show is representing. Still, Henry is kind of the antihero, so they have to make the guy Katherine cheats on him with a douche so that our sympathies remain with Henry.
@kragey Oh okay I never came across that bit of information when I was reading about the Tudors. You right about Henry and the antihero which I never thought of because I was just too busy cursing him out on my screen (LOL) That never crossed my mind and I know stuff like that. Like I said, for the dramatic purpose of the show.....toodaloo Culpepper! :)
@kragey That Culpepper was actually this culpepper's great grandson or something. anywaysis the second culpepper came when Elizabeth was in power, the first Culpepper came in Henry's reign about 16 years before the grandson. but all in all i see your point and it is a very good one.
@beatricexox Yes ma'am. :) When I watched it the first time, I couldn't even remember it was him I just remembered a rape occurred. Then I watched that episode it happened in and I couldn't wait for him to get beheaded. I had to watch the entire series all over again because I was suffering from Tudor-itis. (That's lack of my Sunday night Tudor fix LOL!!!) I miss this show.
Ok.. this is weird. I just watched this whole sequence while listening "Between two lungs" and it lined up perfectly! Whoa.. especially the part where Katherine's hands go over her face where she says "always be in your company". It was right when the chorus started "trapped between two lungs..." I've never been able to make videos, but I would do these two together if i could.
@BabeeyAmyy I should be apologizing! I was trying to wind you up :) Obviously, you have good manners and did not respond nastily - others would. In fact I have no time for The Tudors of England. They were mass murdering monsters.
@BRUTUALTRUTH Oh, I see! :) Thankyou, I try not to respond nastily to anything - everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I agree that the Tudors were not the most merciful rulers England has ever had
@BabeeyAmyy And also what happened to the Countess of Salisbury and later to Lady Jane Grey were plain sadistic murders of an elderly woman and young girl.
Human's are fucking gross
3333rue 10 hours ago
Honestly Culpepper should have Derehams execution. and Dereham Culpeppers. Culpepper has earned it.
MissMichelleMeanly 2 weeks ago
Culpeper did indeed commit a greater offense but he was well liked by the king, so he was shown mercy with a quick beheading
TheMadMatster 2 days ago
Thomas culpeper was the only one who deserved that. he was the one who had an affair with catherine while she was married to henry. on top of that, he was a rapist and a murderer.
penguineatswalrus 1 month ago
Destripamiento y castración mientras todavía estaba consciente :S
ktl666 1 month ago
Why didn't they use a block?
QueenOfHearts95M 1 month ago
katherine whored around with everybody
penguineatswalrus 2 months ago
ppor dereham, I cried when I watched it on tv
RazorSweet 2 months ago
Culpepper gets beheaded for boning the queen while she was actually married to Henry, and Dereham gets hanged, drawn and quartered for doing it before he ever knew she'd be married to Henry. That's just fucked up.
ronronronronrooooon 3 months ago
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Tamzin Merchant's voice is so beautifully suited to the letter. I love the way her voice hitches just a little at 1:04, just a slight change in tone. It betrays her emotional vulnerability.
xBlackwingRose 3 months ago
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xBlackwingRose 3 months ago
I bet watching that was like on youtube!
To Pause - Cover your eyes or look away
To Stop - Go Away
To Play - Uncover your eyes or look at the place
mcfcMacy 3 months ago
"He touched the secret parts of my body"
She had an affair with three people :
Francis Dereham,Thomas Culpepper & Henry VIII
Though,I wouldn't say Henry was having an affair
mcfcMacy 3 months ago
@mcfcMacy Because she was with Dereham first Henry was an affair. That's why Henry was so horribly upset. He thought that all his dreams had been fulfilled in this one girl, a Virgin wife, a wife who did not argue with him, and even his dream of a daughter he loved. It's sad really how much he put on that poor girl. But by the law of the day Dereham was her husband.
rebelalliance501 3 months ago
@rebelalliance501 oh right
mcfcMacy 3 months ago
I really feel for Dareham as he's watching that be-heading, he is thinking oh my god that is nothing compared to what I am about to endure.
Iminthecarsi 3 months ago
too much suffering and pain shown in this video ..... cannot belive how people were in the middle ages really the tortures were painful indeed and i was'nt able to sleep 4 like 1 week or more
jasjot97 4 months ago
@Hardrada88 I descend from Henry VIII's illegitimate daughter Ethelreda. I have mostly English blood. I know my heritage. Henry did have his very good moments it seems, but he also had his very bad. This is one of his very bad moments, and I am not proud of it. No one has the right to take another person's life. I'm taking a class right now about European history...England has a much darker history than most like to think, it seems.
spongebobslushpants1 4 months ago
whos the girl in the begining?
D4Dinosor 4 months ago
@D4Dinosor That is Katherine Howard, fifth wife of Henry VIII. She was beheaded a few months after this scene on 13th February 1542, possibly aged as young as 17. By the way, Culpeper and Dereham were executed on 10th December 1541, not the 8th as suggested here.
claypole47 4 months ago
Culpeper was the one that sould had been tortured! he raped a woman and killed her housband!
smallios1 6 months ago
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harrypotterinnarnia 6 months ago
@harrypotterinnarnia U HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
halo4019 6 months ago
@halo4019 when I said the way she moves I meant her dances... :P
harrypotterinnarnia 6 months ago
This film makes me feel sick though. I feel really sorry for Francis Dereham because how was he to know that she would become Queen one day, and it was like 4 years before she became Queen that she and Francis Dereham had a wedlock affair, but I'm surprised that they didn't do the same to Henry Manox, her old music teacher back at Lambeth, cos he had an affair with her 2. But Culpepper deserved all the pain he got- he was an ambitious but handsome and cunning idiot!!!!! Anyone agree with me?????
mrsplum100 6 months ago
@mrsplum100 It just goes to show what an insane,bloody, deranged tyrant Henry VII became. And those two weren't even the worst executions.
imlisteningify 5 months ago
***So I can deduce from your words, Hardrada88,that you are not only a complete idiot, but a sadistic person too. A complete idiot for loving ancient kings' tyranny; and sadist for loving blood and cruelty. THANK GOD THAT FRENCH AND RUSSIAN REVOLUTIONS CUT SUCH TYRANTS' HEAD OFF. THIS IS THE OUR DEMOCRACIES ORIGIN.
NuevosCaminos 7 months ago
it was not there fault it was Katherine's
MissTudorGirl2020 7 months ago
If I was sentenced to die like that, I would find away to take poison!
JOM123456 7 months ago
Actually it was worse . He was hung , then taken down alive, his genitalia was cut off first. Then they removed his bowels and they were cooked in front of his eyes then he was cut into four pieces and beheaded.
How bout that vyzgit8
safesax98 7 months ago
i think the moral of this is dont have a affair if your the queen
milena5678 9 months ago
Mr Culpeper deserved to die. He violated that poor farmer lady and killed her husband of fear the be denunciated.
Lordseydious 9 months ago
different world, different time. they'd not understand us today so why expect to understand them then?.."Why are you so forgiving and lenient?" while we say "Why are you so barbaric" what is barbaric for one is normal for another.
Hardrada88 10 months ago
This scene is inaccurate. The following was standard:
1.) Condemned was stripped nude.
2.) Condemned was hung briefly.
3.) Condemned was table tied, castrated & emasculated, then eviscerated excluding the lungs (so last screams could be enjoyed by all) -- saving the beating heart for last, all organs burned in the process, then the torso was sawed in half across, then decapitation, then the torso was sawed in half lengthwise. The quarters and head of the condemned were then displayed. :)
USAsoldier1955 10 months ago
her voice is iritating
Dru0417 10 months ago 4
@Dru0417 Totaly agree wiv you! Tamzin Merchantz voice irritates the hell out of me!!!
mrsplum100 6 months ago
Horrible how people actually got off on seeing suffering and torture. Bunch of heathens.
QueenCatherineParr 10 months ago 15
@QueenCatherineParr I think that particular brand of Christian teachings led people to become mentally unstable, and that's how they were able to enjoy such things. If you tell people that they will go to hell unless they are "good enough", of course it will mess with their minds.
aragornthebrave 3 weeks ago
Other countries were just as brutal as us, if not more, during this period of history. If you don't believe me, look up "Germany breaking on wheel" via google...
Zarathustratosphere 11 months ago
sen kralın amına koyarsan kralda senin amına koyar olay budur...
gnrztrk 11 months ago
Quel épisode ?
mal73000 1 year ago
I dont see why she wouldnt have danced, she enjoyed dancing so it's quite possible. She still lived for another 2 months after this so it's unlikely she would have just done nothing.
NorthernBoy2010 1 year ago
Who knows what Katherine Howard did, other than ask for the block to be brought to her room. She was an ignorant teenager who could barely write who was used by her family to further their ambitions. Who'd not have any compassion, for such a girl? Few are those who truly deserve to die in such a way, none if you are truly a Christian.
alliterationUK 1 year ago
Who knows what Katherine Howard did, other than ask for the block to be brought to her room. She was an ignorant teenager who could barely write who was used by her family to further their ambitions. Who'd not have any compassion, for such a girl? Few are those who truly deserve to die in such a way, none if you are truly a Christian.
alliterationUK 1 year ago
The hypocrisy. I don't think that Howard would have been dancing in real life. So fake this shit of a programme
raskinman 1 year ago
Haunting....watching this.....walking towards your death, knowing you were going to die in a brutal way....
mumihp 1 year ago
You cant even begin to think of what it must feel like knowing you're going to be dead in a few minutes, let alone due to such barbaric methods.
Poor old Derehem didnt even get peace in the hour of his death... his soul must surely never have rested in peace.
NorthernBoy2010 1 year ago
Back in the middle ages, public executions were like sporting events. You gather, socialize, and cheer and clap as the condemned prisoners are killed. Theres even vendors selling snacks! And of course, after, you go dip your hankercheif iin blood as a souvineir. I can imaging a man going home to his family and saying "Hey kids! I brought you some blood from the execution. I really wish you were there! There was the awesome part where the executioner lifted his axe..."
You get the idea.
zanzell 1 year ago
I always felt [IMHO] that if Dereham hadn't come looking for Catherine, he would probably have been safe even IF the King had found out about him. I might be wrong, but...I guess we'll never know. b/b)O(
avallonmist 1 year ago
Whats the music called ?? its soo lovely
ilovefly 1 year ago
@ilovefly It is haunting isn't it ?
avallonmist 1 year ago
@ilovefly
It is called The Execution Ballet :).
NorthernBoy2010 1 year ago
You would think Culpepper would get the harshest execution having slept with the kings wife. Sucks for Francis. If he would have kept his drunk mouth shut, he would have been fine. Stupid
vyizgr8t 1 year ago
@vyizgr8t The reason why Derehan recieves a harsher punishment is due to him being one of the aristocracy and therefore should have known better. In truth he was innocent of the charges brought against him. The only reason he was tortured and finally put to death was due to his account of what had happened clashed with Catherine Howards. He wasn't the only person to suffer this way during this period.
marcN19 1 year ago
@marcN19 Believe me i understand his crime. What i mean is he didn't have to be there. He went about making life miserable for her and started running his mouth to everyone. And because of that, the King found out. And he got executed. He brought it on himself.
vyizgr8t 1 year ago
@vyizgr8t yep, he was a stupid idiot and didn't think of the consequences. Stupid man to forget he's living under the King's roof, everything is heard!
hpmoody 10 months ago
@vyizgr8t it depends on how rich they were. if you were poor you got hanged. rich you got beheaded
annemolly57 8 months ago
Ridiculous to criticise British history on the strength of a bloody TV show. But he was part of the process which made England an Empire. I remember seeing loads of comments from our American friends on YouTube who seem to be under the illusion that 'The Tudors' is some kind of historical document. Its a relatively inaccurate dramatisation. This isnt the OC you know. Times were hard, there were power struggles, people were devout and and the population needed to be ruled quite strongly.
40of50 1 year ago 2
i can barf when is ee this! :s
TheJenettefan 1 year ago
I will just say it was rare for axes to cut in one blow. it's top heavy, so it crushes rather than cuts like a sword etc. It was common for two or more swing to sever the head..unlike one executioner who took 8 swings then ended up using a knife to cut the head off.
Hardrada88 1 year ago
GO BRITIAN .. WE G THROUGH ALL THAT AND WE HAVE GIVEN THIS COUNTRY AWAY
shadowdude2009 1 year ago
Makes me proud to be English to see some Americans, easterns, etc say we had shit history. Our country, and europe, and the world was forged by blood and by love. i love our history and heritage
Hardrada88 1 year ago 19
@Hardrada88 same here. they really do underestimate us and our history. a small country we may be; but we conquered half the world at one time.
shobmeow 1 year ago
@shobmeow exactly, we went through war after war, plague, internal struggle we briefly became a republic til the restoration. Go back to 793 and the first vikingur attack..i mean we're older than that even! beautiful country, some shit people but wonderful history.
Hardrada88 1 year ago
@Hardrada88 i could't agree more :)
m3li55aNyappy 1 year ago
@Hardrada88 Its is not right for anyone to bad mouth history, in any size, shape or form.
You are right to be proud of your history.
TotalRoman04 10 months ago
@TotalRoman04 What if your German? And Against Genacide and war? Not being fuuny, just asking :)
Mzthingtwo 10 months ago
@Mzthingtwo Thats an exception. Please don't be proud of the holocaust. Lol ;). Anyway, German history is not ALL genocide. There is some major history in them, especialy during the Napoleonic wars.
TotalRoman04 10 months ago
@TotalRoman04 Haha Fair enoufh Cant argue that lol XD
Mzthingtwo 10 months ago
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TotalRoman04 10 months ago
@Hardrada88 well many white americans came from europe so they share your "shit" history. Lol and Im black, soi can't say anything lol
vyizgr8t 8 months ago
@vyizgr8t I'm glad you mentioned that your black. Why? because people often paint the picture that back in those days coloured people were just slaves, lower than animals. not true. See some medieval paintings. Musicians with black faces, crew on ships were all working ranks were equal even at trafalgar in 1808(?). Even going back to the viking era in Rus and constantinople the varangian guard, some black faces in their ranks. all history is colourful depending on how you look at it.
Hardrada88 8 months ago
@Hardrada88 Well yah of course there was more blood you guys where around longer. XD but as an american European history interests me greatly.
KevinandCluke 8 months ago
@Hardrada88 You are proud of this?
spongebobslushpants1 4 months ago
@spongebobslushpants1 Yep, and so tells the 17 likes that others are to. I know exactly where I come from and i'm proud of it and always will be. I know exactly who my forefathers were and how they helped shape this country. We always remember the negative, yes this happened but it was also an age of light and music and laughter. anyway this is 'hollywoods' interpretation. I can tell you how an traitors death was but it's more than that. How can you not be proud of your heritage?
Hardrada88 4 months ago
@Hardrada88 i dont think so....even when you had a bloody age in england, i prefer the beautiful places and the many rich arts and plays you have.....god bless you all british for shakespear and his legendary romeo and juliet, for robin hood and his outlaws, for queen elizabeth 1, and for many famous british people in the history, really dude, i will go to england to see how beautiful your country is...and i love your weather too, greetings buddy
jlocksley20 4 months ago
@Hardrada88 Yeah,Exactly...Non-English people don't really know about OUR country so thats why they say its crap!
mcfcMacy 3 months ago
Even after seeing all of this, Henry is still one of the most likable characters in the series.
Anyway, how thick can you get? Does it require a giant IQ to know that having sex with the queen if you're not the king is a bad idea? And how can you be stupid enough to have yourself appointed secretary if you had an affair with the queen prior to her marriage?
Rhapsody151 1 year ago
@WTFOVER1901:Could you say me why Francis Dereham was executed too?I thougt,that just thomas was...
And why did they quatered just francis and not thomas?
Foffyla 1 year ago
@Foffyla Francis Dereham was executed for having sex with Katherine same with Thomas. In the show Henry says that he wanted Francis to suffer more because he ruined Katherine by having sex with her before they were married. He killed Thomas because he had sex with Katherine while they were married.
Zalerinae0491 1 year ago
"I beg you all to pray for me"
*JEERING*
That was very poignant....
shibzy0tennant 1 year ago
Thumbs Up I f you thought it was going to be thomas cullen even if i don't know who he is:p
Bluestar460 1 year ago
Usual tosh from this atrocious series. Dereham, who denounced Culpeper in a vain attempt to save himself, though he was guilty of nothing more than consensual sex with a willing young girl, was hung draw and quartered separately from Culpeper, who was far guiltier but was beheaded in private because of the residual liking the old monster once had for him.
andrewwarmington 1 year ago
She's so gracious....Beautiful music with a very esthetic scene. Yes. This scene is beautiful. so beautiful.
verobinful 1 year ago
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WTFOVER1901 1 year ago 14
@WTFOVER1901 Why the fuck did they play happy music when a guy gets beheaded and another guy gets stabbed in the abdomen?
concealedknight 11 months ago
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WTFOVER1901 11 months ago
@WTFOVER1901 It was the other way around I'm afraid.
marcN19 11 months ago
@concealedknight Back then it was a tradition to keep the crowd going into hysteria and roiting. They thought the happy music would calm people down enough to in the kings/royalty's mind "pray for their codemned souls" is the way the Tudor Accounts put it. And the Tudor accounts were partially written by Henry himself. But the thinking behind it was to keep the calm over the crowd and a vain attempt to keep the codemned calm too. Didn't work though.
countrywillneverdie 10 months ago
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what to hell they did to the second man????
Suggi1985 1 year ago
Boah, grausam... einfach nur grausam... früher mochte ich Johnathan Rhys Meyers so gerne.. aber durch die Rolle als tyrannischer Henry hat er viel Symphatie bei mir verloren... auch wenn er nur Schauspieler ist... aber seine Rolle ist ätzend!!!
Suggi1985 1 year ago
poor thomas..
martinhaJ 1 year ago
English people should be ashamed of their history.
judcolgan 1 year ago
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movieflixter123 11 months ago
@judcolgan I dont support what the IRA did in Britain at all, but the British have committed far worse atrocities in Ireland than were ever done by IRA bombs.
judcolgan 11 months ago
Ugh, I feel bad for both guys, especially the blond one, just cause he was a commoner his death had to be more difficult, but it's bad enough the two had to die but then people were throwing garbage at them and yelling at them, cheering on their deaths? ugh...
akjadestar 1 year ago
Anyone else find it really scary that people could have really stood around and cheered for such a thing?
WhiteRose226 1 year ago
@WhiteRose226 They didn't have Playstation or Sky Sports to keep them amused back then, I think.
Kelly14UK 1 year ago
silly nauses bitch sold her soul to the devil and the devil killed her cause he wa spissed off. Poetic justice.
deltapunk21 1 year ago
@deltapunk21 Thou shalt lean to use proper spelling and grammar.
WhiteRose226 1 year ago
Culpeper and Dereham got what they deserved.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
@HistoryLover1550 what for loving a queen who loved one out of the two????? history only tells this videos side of the story. but if you read the Tudor Accounts and the accounts of both Lady Katherine and of Culpepper you would find that there was a whole lot more going on then what history implies.
countrywillneverdie 1 year ago
@countrywillneverdie Im sure there would've been more to their affair.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
@countrywillneverdie i agree, she was very young and nieve when she married henry she saw only the glamourous side of being queen she didnt love henry, but unfortunatly for her she fell in love with culpepper, she wasnt just killed for that, she was killed because she wasnt a virgin when she married the king, obviously somthing we would all find absoutly ridiculous now a days but back then! you were shamful!
melodykey 1 year ago
The executioner would never have been so cack-handed when performing a hanging, drawing and quartering. They developed the art of removing only the non-essential organs with the utmost care and precision to make sure that the victim stayed a live and in agony for as long as possible. The victim was usually alive and conscious when their head was removed.
mtheadedwally 1 year ago
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Dereham was an idiot. If you were him, wouldn't you stay well away from court? I mean, if you knew that you had a relationship in the past with Henry VIII's wife, would you come and get appointed to her court and, then, get drunk and going round telling everyone that the queen used to be your girlfriend? I'd stay well away if I was him.
Snezhinka9 1 year ago
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Snezhinka9 1 year ago
how brutal... british are3 fucking idiot with idiotic history.
bidarsho1972 1 year ago
@bidarsho1972 You kidding me? The british has idiotic history? Britian was one of the best history's in the world.
This was not brutal for the time, this was dangerous times, it was not just the British who had these means of execution, the whole of the world did at this time, inluding Europe and the Middle East.
laurenlfc48 1 year ago 25
@laurenlfc48 NOT TO MENTION ONE OF THE MOST BLOODIEST. BUT, HATE TO TELL YOU BUT SPAIN HAS THE WHOLE WORLD BEAT. WHY??? TWO WORDS FOR YA'.... THE INQUISITION.
countrywillneverdie 1 year ago
@countrywillneverdie Which is bullshit the Inquistion did beat anyone the Inquisition as lied about in your faggot propagan "history" books is a complete sham. The total to die suring the imaginary inquisition were 3,000 people total executed for 500 YEARS...it includes pirates, traitors, coward son the battlefield, moorish spies and a whole hsot of things and no the inquistiion did "rpesecutE" protestans or Jews those are silly myths created by those precious protected groups that do no wrong
deltapunk21 1 year ago
@countrywillneverdie Henry murdered tens of thousands of catholics in the countryside and the Inquistion wasn't evil in nautre or in result and the silly bullshit about total number of dead doesn't even reach the Mongols on a bad day the whole 400-500 of the office of inquiry
deltapunk21 1 year ago
@laurenlfc48 And apparently it hasn't stopped in the Middle East.
gdquint 1 year ago
@laurenlfc48 INDEED... from a comfortable couch position this all seems harsh and unnessecary, those were the days, nothing unusual. Nothing much has changed anyway. There's a lesson here though, avoid royalty like the black plague.
PAULLONDEN 7 months ago
the executier deserves a bullet in the head killing an innocent human being!
mxsupercomp 1 year ago
Why were they executed differently? :/
LerouxsPhantom 1 year ago
@LerouxsPhantom Henry felt that Dereham ruined Katherine for him, because he was her first lover. So he had the worst, because he wished for him to suffer. For Culpepper, he only knew the queen carnally after Henry, which resulted in his death. But he was also a former king's favorite, so he had a more "humane" death.
muzickalbox 1 year ago 2
I had no sympathy for that Culpeper ass after he raped that woman in and killed her husband for no reason.
Head for an eye in my opinion.
bubblinbrownsugar616 1 year ago 2
@bubblinbrownsugar616 Huh? Who did Culpeper rape?
Isobel31Swan 1 year ago
@Isobel31Swan The Park Keeper's wife. It was in the first episode of the 4th season. Then when the Park keeper confronts him about it and threatens to bring the law, he goes and kills him.
I really doubt it was real just for the sake of the show but if it was real, he had what was coming to him.
bubblinbrownsugar616 1 year ago
@bubblinbrownsugar616 Back in the days of yore the nobility were free to kill common folk as they pleased.
What I don't get is - why isn't JRM's Henry a big, fat, puss filled psychopath yet (he had a serious injury after he murdered Anne whic meant he couldn't exercise like he could before) and is he still the slim, relatively attractive psychopath?
Isobel31Swan 1 year ago
@bubblinbrownsugar616 There was a Thomas Culpepper who committed a rape like the one seen in the show, but it was not the same man the show is representing. Still, Henry is kind of the antihero, so they have to make the guy Katherine cheats on him with a douche so that our sympathies remain with Henry.
kragey 1 year ago
@kragey Oh okay I never came across that bit of information when I was reading about the Tudors. You right about Henry and the antihero which I never thought of because I was just too busy cursing him out on my screen (LOL) That never crossed my mind and I know stuff like that. Like I said, for the dramatic purpose of the show.....toodaloo Culpepper! :)
bubblinbrownsugar616 1 year ago
@kragey That Culpepper was actually this culpepper's great grandson or something. anywaysis the second culpepper came when Elizabeth was in power, the first Culpepper came in Henry's reign about 16 years before the grandson. but all in all i see your point and it is a very good one.
countrywillneverdie 1 year ago
@bubblinbrownsugar616 it was him who did that?!?!?!
beatricexox 1 year ago
@beatricexox Yes ma'am. :) When I watched it the first time, I couldn't even remember it was him I just remembered a rape occurred. Then I watched that episode it happened in and I couldn't wait for him to get beheaded. I had to watch the entire series all over again because I was suffering from Tudor-itis. (That's lack of my Sunday night Tudor fix LOL!!!) I miss this show.
bubblinbrownsugar616 1 year ago
@bubblinbrownsugar616 OMG I can't believe it was him!Thanks for telling me:)
beatricexox 1 year ago
its so sad makes me cry
777rachael 1 year ago
I am not sure what is worse: the savage executions or the savage jeers of the disgusting mob cheering this on. Awful.
BRUTUALTRUTH 1 year ago 2
HA!! That must have hurt...
XxShinigamiLivixX 1 year ago
Ok.. this is weird. I just watched this whole sequence while listening "Between two lungs" and it lined up perfectly! Whoa.. especially the part where Katherine's hands go over her face where she says "always be in your company". It was right when the chorus started "trapped between two lungs..." I've never been able to make videos, but I would do these two together if i could.
Agneshka 1 year ago
dang.......major ouch
rburchf 1 year ago
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BabeeyAmyy 1 year ago
@BabeeyAmyy Oh! You were there were you? Utter tripe!
BRUTUALTRUTH 1 year ago
@BRUTUALTRUTH My comment was just from what I have seen on the TV show. I'm sorry if I offended you. I did not mean to.
BabeeyAmyy 1 year ago
@BabeeyAmyy I should be apologizing! I was trying to wind you up :) Obviously, you have good manners and did not respond nastily - others would. In fact I have no time for The Tudors of England. They were mass murdering monsters.
BRUTUALTRUTH 1 year ago
@BRUTUALTRUTH Oh, I see! :) Thankyou, I try not to respond nastily to anything - everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I agree that the Tudors were not the most merciful rulers England has ever had
BabeeyAmyy 1 year ago
@BabeeyAmyy And also what happened to the Countess of Salisbury and later to Lady Jane Grey were plain sadistic murders of an elderly woman and young girl.
BRUTUALTRUTH 1 year ago
i love that they used katherine's actual love letter to thomas culpepper when he was walking to his death
i just feel bad 4 katherine because she was only a teenager....she was vulnerable and was unhappy in her marriage
CurvesRsexy08 1 year ago
@CurvesRsexy08 True, u have to have sympathy for the girl.
HistoryLover1550 1 year ago
What is the name of the song playing? It is soooo beautiful!!
roxa01 1 year ago