E-Stars Savior vs NalRa 21 Jul 09 Destination P2of2

[Sausack22]

i like how sometimes you here the korean commentators screaming in the background :D

[FinetalPies]

Never bring a knife to a bazooka fight.

[Jhu91]

Holy Shit! Fat Girl Devouring Chocalate was Awesome! I LOLd so hard

[RealmEternal]

Nal_ra is still as cool as ever

[Smarterdanu]

wow, nary a storm

[ckyisyourfuture]

sAviOr[gm] Maestro Forever!

[Konkaver]

lol savior... so gangster

[ehkinoh]

Bazookas against Knives... lol!

[frydooo]

before nal ra typed GG he typed something like ww. aint sure... what does that mean?

[ShadowsTemple]

usually means he missed the g key

[ckyisyourfuture]

This isn't uncommon. I don't know exactly what it means, but it happens quite frequently.

[frydooo]

hey dude i love cky

[H4L0GaNGT4R]

i think he was microing and pressed enter to type gg but typed ww...meh who knows

[wyntyrmute]

Savior didn't BM.

A handshake isn't typical or expected. A handshake after the game is a sign of great respect.

Boxer and Reach have a lot of history and mutual respect and their game was at least a good one.

Expecting Savior to shake nal_ra's hand after embarrassing him is silly and would take away from the significance of other handshakes.

If there was a handshake after every game they would mean as much as the post game "good game"s between high school basketball teams.

[jamrollz]

thats looking into it a bit to deeply, i mean unless your interprellated into korean/sc culture, and specifically in sportsmanship, who are you so say for sure?

[1337Baboon]

bit unhappy that savior just walked out and didnt go for the handshake gg

[ntt911]

fat girls and candybars. keep it up klaz

[Smudge4C]

There's a reason these players (Nal_rA, Kingdom, etc.) aren't playing these days. They're so out of practice that this "Stars" tournament is like watching 60-year-old ex-sportsmen playing in a charity event.

[1337Baboon]

lawl

[PolygonreVue]

The Holy Wars have seen yet another battle. Does this make sAviOr : Nal:rA 10-10 in individual scores against each other? The Maestro's lack of hospitality towards his beaten foe was the historic rivalry that has been between them, and the contempt from his side that still is today. However, that's entertainment and a big, fat GG!

[spaceorbison]

Do NaL_Ra and Savior have the kind of friendship or history that say Boxer and Reach have to come across to one another and shake hands? I didn't see much of the deal with him just going backstage without a handshake, I mean if he had Na_ra would still have been in his booth anyway. Anyway, gg, destroyed.

[zethgb]

It's a different culture.

[jonlance11]

0.o Filthy "X" rated commentary? What was said.

[CoralMan24]

great match and commentary

[NinjaWolfHybrid]

Did Savior's play look "S" class? Looked "A" to me.

[jackface0410]

devoured like a fat girl after lent? awesome.

[Mayku5]

LOL SAVIOR ROOOOOOOOX

[lazomaniac]

WHERE IS THAT COMMENTARY?? (reach and tossgirl) ??

[xMonkFishx]

nalra said ww before he said gg?

[SovietSR71]

5:34 Savior was named Savior before he accomplished anything. Seriously klaz you make no sense.

[Adam67890]

These usernames are like filling out your own birth certificates. For someone to judge you on how YOU feel about yourself is childish. Furthermore, maybe he simply liked the sound of the word. I find syphilis to be one of the most beautiful words in the English language, disregarding it's meaning, of course.

[TomPhoenixSC]

Actually, that is wrong. Savior was originally named IPX_Zerg.

[SovietSR71]

oh i didn't know that. do u know when he changed his name?

[TomPhoenixSC]

Sorry, no idea. But I imagine the term appeared when he became successful, since he was practically saving the Zerg race.

[KlazartSC]

So you don't actually know, but you go ahead and make a comment as if it's a fact. The actual information is in some of the earlier comments on the vod, if you bothered looking for it.

Seriously, this kinda stuff drive me nuts. People saying to others "you make no sense" when they are completely clueless about what they are saying. Next time... check your facts.

[NateCloughn]

What's in a name? that which we call a rose.

By any other name would smell as sweet

[zethgb]

Nice shakepeare quote m8!

[NateCloughn]

:D!! Sums it up

[3512435124]

by the time ipxzerg was known as savior he already did what people thought were impossible and incorporated defiler use to counter the nada terran ball of death and forever changed the zerg metagame oh and he was raping too

[Arpy808]

Thanks for the commentary.

Anyone else starting to hate Savior? After this tourney I'm going to relish his losses.

[BenHileday]

video too dark.. please fix next time you record.

[DeSTRoYeR992]

what are you guys talking about? savior wasnt expected to shake his hand.. its only before the game is played..

[felixExclamation]

Go check the Boxer vs Reach game.

[DeSTRoYeR992]

I already watched it live.

[liandzbergis]

gg but klazart, dont spoil everything in this tournament =] pretty please.

[lolimontheinternet]

Savior is a dick.

I think that the crowd cheered more for Nal_Ra.

Nal_Ra is probably one of the best looking progamers.

[loksea06]

savior: this was a waste of my time ¬¬

[vasjaforutube1]

Ok, I understand, great players etc, but NalRa looks totally disassembled/out of shape and mentored by Savior as a b-net noob. Strange contest...

[Kino5journey]

Wow, saviour sure is BM lol. HE should atleast have shaken Nal_Ra's hand. No respect lol hope he get eliminated soon. >:(

[mudskipper1234]

Quality commentary as always Klaz.

[valnizzas]

Savior will come back and destroy everyone in 2009! Something I will always believe that will happen. However, I love Nalra also.

[JobForAGabby]

who cares its just so you know who you're talking about

[scjohnno]

Loser gave the winner a few inches, and the winner took several miles. Perfect illustration of punishing someone for their mistakes.

[konstantinNeo]

Hopefuly KeSPA is not going to pick up on the "ww" of NalRa's

[x20LUx]

whats ww mean? i just knew gg so far

[nerflung]

on korean keyboards the korean phrase for GG is on the same keys as the english WW

when they say WW they just forget that they're in english mode and press the wrong keys

[cdavistwo]

It's ridiculous to comment like that on Savior's name. His original name was ipxzerg and he was instructed by his previous team coaches to change it

[jrobertwood]

"Devoured like candy bar is devoured by a Catholic girl the first day after Lent" - good metaphor.

[3512435124]

similie

[generau666]

does anyone know a web page where i can follow the outcomes in korean tournaments? (preferably in english :p)

[AWR1ddle]

teamliquid

sc2gg

gosugamers

[generau666]

much appreciated :)

[ModeLTU]

Well, I don't really agree with Klaz there..I mean, first of all, progamers don't care so much about their IDs, as we know that progamers are called by their names.

So even if you said "Boxer", some people may not know him.If you said "Lim Yo Hwan" EVERYONE would know what you're talking about.

Maybe he just chose that name randomly, maybe it has a slightly different meaning in Korean.I don't think progamers emphasize those names too much anyway :P

[IncognitoDies]

I think this is a bit of a non-issue really, as in Korea no one cares what their IDs are and they are just refered to by their actual names.

[drdictatorr]

Great Commentary Klaz!

:)

[timonyang]

i dunno klazart...... i think getting to a pro level in korea is a GREAT achievement .... but i guess your standards are much higher than mine so who cares :p

[SovietSR71]

naw klazart just thinks Savior is the god of starcraft name choosing, and all other names suck. pretty lame

[kakao777]

soviet's a pretty pretty name!

[hcferago]

If we're talking about arrogant names, what about Best? or [Best]God for that matter?

[KlazartSC]

Ya, that's another one, lol.

[tinsleyjamaal]

and TheZerg

[zethgb]

Miracle is along the same lines aswell ;)

I love how most korean and asian names overall follow the same theme. Existing words that they find cool/nice/fitting. Over here (sweden) people tend to use more homemade stuff like Heaton (CS legend)

or Madfrog (early wc3 star) which is also nice i suppose.

[HeLL12aiseR]

Great is not neccessarily an arrogant name like you make of it Klazart... also Savior was called Savior even before he won his first OSL/MSL title, that's the part of the argument you were missing in your commentary!

[KlazartSC]

Calling yourself "great" is pretty ridiculous imo.

Savior was owning it up as IPX_Zerg, long before he was hailed as Savior of zerg, which, ironically, he was.

[Vyse0wnz]

not really ironic

[dranjam2]

Nal_ra done perfect job as for his lack of practice, and if he only wouldn't loose those 3 templars for nothing at 1 point, this game would carry on for a lot longer. Commentary was 1 sided, not the game. 1 time it happened that I watched SC game by someone other than naveke and I regret doing so.

[dogabutila]

The game was very one sided, to think otherwise is moronic. P user who gets 2 probes and an assimilator killed even after he FE's? You dont think that a little bit one sided?

[NateCloughn]

Achieve something then you can call yourself jaedong? You're dumb. Name yourself. Then if you become the champ your name will become something of it.

[Zahtarah]

I agree, achieve something and you can call yourself jaedong

[NateCloughn]

Great is an arrogant name? You fuckin kidding me? What if he thinks starcraft is great. What if he thinks life is great. What if he thinks vagina is great. It's a fuckin name who cares. And plus there was another match where savior didn't handshake or some other player didn't do we know it's a display of arrogance? Why are we so judgmental

[coconutflame]

knives to bazooka fights ftw xD

[ijuka]

Savior was known as IPXZerg at first, and changed it to savior because IPXZerg is a terrible name. I think it was after he won a league, but if not, at least when he was already dominant in the PL and making good progress in the leagues.

[jtbovis]

I don't think 'saviour' is an arrogant name at all compared to a name like 'great'. But even so, Klazart is right that at least saviour has something worth being arrogant about :P

Also, can't wait to see cholera's reaction to reach vs tossgirl, it will be priceless :P

[Yakotala]

I wouldnt mind watching Savior on Tossgirl either!

[Sabu113]

Savior would cry half way through it.

[KiwiiLime]

Ugh!! RA Is my fav toss him and bisu .. i was hoping he won this tourney

[lowfatfishsticks]

well, savior and nal_ra were laughing at the beginning while in chat. and savior didnt give kingdom a handshake either

[Mustardjelly001]

Poor Nalra, but its nice to see Savior win... Ride the confidence Savior <,< through to prolegue

[lowfatfishsticks]

did savior change his name before or after he won the three msl's

[effepeffe666]

in between i think

[TaoXX]

lol cant wait for the reach vs. tossgirl commantary

[Psychomu]

This game was a run away from the first few minutes.

[SAOSIN987]

gg good commentary, do you know what is going on with cholera??

[duffath]

great commentary! good match! thanks Klaz!