To everyone who says TTC is right in giving people just an unknown short amount of time to board:
Today at Sheppard Station, on the Yonge line even, the driver closed the doors when people hadn't even finished getting off, let alone on. The doors literally knocked an old woman onto the ground, the driver looked & TRIED TO CLOSE THE DOOR AGAIN when she was still on the ground. If people didn't hold the doors she would have been dragged across the platform and killed.
well, actually we see almost empty wagon and station so its probably late night and there are not much ppl waiting for a train.. they see it and thats why its only 3 secs. why they need to hold it more if its empty?
well, if you have ever been to Hong Kong and returned to Toronto you'll know why, and why CONSISTENCY and PREDICTABILITY will solve lots of TTC's problems that it is blaming on its own passengers.
Did anyone even come in? The drivers know how long to open/close doors at which station. If it looks empty then obviously the drivers gonna close it early. What station was this anyway?
It doesn't matter if people come in or not, they just close the door.
AND what's the matter with people not coming in? There might be a crowd just stepping off the escalator and 3 more seconds away from the door. They should mandate that doors are open at least, say, 15 seconds. This instils passengers confidence in the system and will solve the problems of "charging doors", "pushing door", and "not letting passengers get off", all problems TTC is blaming us but really are caused by TTC itself.
doesn't matter. i've seen it on the yonge subway, and seriously the time i HAD to hold doors to avoid being squished it was on the bloor subway. nothing to do with the sheppard subway at all
To set the record straight, when the "Gaurd" opens the doors, he presses a button, and the trains breaks go into a locked out mode so that the "Motorman" cannot move the train while the doors are open. The doors then open with the first chime. In order to close the doors the "Gaurd" must press and hold 2 door close buttons until all the doors are closed. When he presses the buttons the chime sounds... and then the doors begin to close. If he releases the buttons for any reason the doors re-open.
but that's only one station and it depends on how many people are getting on at that station, no one was there so the dude in the middle of the train decided to close the doors. 15 - 30 seconds is just too long, it's a waste of time, it's only cause a lot of people get on at specific stations.
sure that's be nice, but not on the subway. it'd be nice if they give us a warning when they stop their buses in random places and wait for an INDEFINITE and UNKNOWN amount of time. it sure is irresponsible and inconsiderate when they stop there doing nothing for four minutes and don't tell you how much longer they're staying there
Eight seconds total, including the doors opening and closing, but three seconds only while the doors are open. You don't start boarding before the doors are fully open do you?
LOL, first, that's officially discouraged by the TTC, and second, as I said many times, I just happened to have my camera ready this time and happened to be quick enough to push it to movies mode. A lot of times it is much worse; it's just I don't have my camera with me.
So you can continue to believe that TTC doesn't have a problem. I guess I finally understand why our politicians continues to deceive us by saying Toronto is a world-class city; people actually believes this stuff.
I just LOVE people who really think that Toronto is a world-class city and TTC has the best in design. You really need to get out of Canada and see how real world-class subways are like
Enjoy your easy-to-use TTC! Don't tell me when you get squished!
Oh yeah, and your comment about disabled persons is a VERY valid point. Since even youngm, non-disabled people do get stuck (remember, they don't care whether you have even finished getting off the trains, let alone getting on!), so they obviously has no respect for disabled people.
And you know our trains have stupidly designed doors with no sensors, so once you get stuck it takes them at least 5 to 10 minutes to unstuck the doors. Fast closing for smooth travel times? You bet.
You took this video at Bessarion Station, the second least used on the entire subway/RT system (the least being Ellesmere on the RT). If this was a station like Bathurst, Union, Bloor/Yonge or St. George, you'd have a point.
The only time you'll come up against this is if the platform is a ghost town and nobody is getting off. If that's the case, then three seconds is more than enough time to board and let off passengers as long as you're already on the platform/at a door.
Yes, but this happen in every station. In fact I had to personally push the door to avoid being squished at YONGE station, and I was right there by the door all the time. It's just hard to have the camera ready at the right station at the right time.
lol. just yesterday one guy was stuck at the door because the driver closed the door before he could get out, and all the trains were delayed for at least 5 minutes. ttc's way of keeping things smooth. good luck toronto.
I really think we should have that kind of protection in our subways in Toronto! I mean, so many crazy people these days, if they don't commit suicide they might even push u off......
Toronto's TTC IS getting ancient! but they are designing a new train model for 2010 or something that is suppose to be REALLY good. lol
That must have been an isolated case, because it happens all the time, and they just open the doors allowing the stuck person to get it (often it's a bag that gets stuck), and quickly close them.
for this video, yes, but i don't have my camera on video mode wth me all the time. and i have seen personally i-don't-remember-how-many times where the bells start ringing when people are still trying to just get in (and a few times when people are still getting out!). i once HAD TO hold the door because the doors are closing on me even though i started boarding long before the bells were rang.
so maybe those guys are sloppy at their jobs, or doze off. i honestly don't know what they are doing.
You're right about that. I remember one time I was heading home, the subway doors closed on my backpack. Worst of all, the guy controlling the doors forgot to sound off the warning chimes!!! Anyways, I've got to say, this video is very well done, and captures the sounds very well. You should do this more often. :)
The chimes were probably broken. When the doors close, there's alwasy a chime unless it broken. If the chime is broken on all cars, you hear two whistles before the doors close. Thats how they did it before chimes I think.
Thats bull. The doors are designed so that once the chime goes off, you have enough time to cross the line between the platform and the train. If the door closes on you, you either went after the chime or just took your sweet time to cross. Why should everyone have to wait for you to get on the train?
I dont get what the problem here is. If you miss a train, there is always another one 3-5 minutes behind. If its rush hour, even less time. There is no need to rush the doors.
I don't know if you realize this, but they actually monitor the doors to make sure no one gets caught and people have enough time. Have you noticed that there was no one waiting at that station to get in? And anyone who was, was ready to get on. Have you noticed the waits at the bloor-danforth line? Do you ever catch those guys who are in the cabins between the first and last that stick there heads out at every stop to check?
To everyone who says TTC is right in giving people just an unknown short amount of time to board:
Today at Sheppard Station, on the Yonge line even, the driver closed the doors when people hadn't even finished getting off, let alone on. The doors literally knocked an old woman onto the ground, the driver looked & TRIED TO CLOSE THE DOOR AGAIN when she was still on the ground. If people didn't hold the doors she would have been dragged across the platform and killed.
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littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
go to Hong Kong and live there for two weeks. come back and you'll agree with me
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
well, actually we see almost empty wagon and station so its probably late night and there are not much ppl waiting for a train.. they see it and thats why its only 3 secs. why they need to hold it more if its empty?
valarua 2 years ago
well, if you have ever been to Hong Kong and returned to Toronto you'll know why, and why CONSISTENCY and PREDICTABILITY will solve lots of TTC's problems that it is blaming on its own passengers.
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
basserion is the second least busiest station in toronto . that's y
Blueman57 2 years ago
doesn't matter. you got to instil confidence in passengers. you don't do this if you really treat your train service as important to people
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
this is the sheppard line. not that many ppl go in that line
Blueman57 2 years ago 2
hmmm. Kinda like De La Savane station here in Montreal. The doors stay open for about 2-8 seconds depending if you're in rush-hour or not.
boo2277 2 years ago
Did anyone even come in? The drivers know how long to open/close doors at which station. If it looks empty then obviously the drivers gonna close it early. What station was this anyway?
BlGGlE 2 years ago
The driver does not do it the guard does it he is at the middle or back looking out the window to see who is on the platform
NOBODY rides that line so thats why
g4tech 2 years ago
It doesn't matter if people come in or not, they just close the door.
AND what's the matter with people not coming in? There might be a crowd just stepping off the escalator and 3 more seconds away from the door. They should mandate that doors are open at least, say, 15 seconds. This instils passengers confidence in the system and will solve the problems of "charging doors", "pushing door", and "not letting passengers get off", all problems TTC is blaming us but really are caused by TTC itself.
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
You think THIS is bad? I've been on trains where the "door closing" chime sounds even before the doors have completely opened.
I've also been on trains where the doors close before everyone has gotten off, and in one case the doors shut on an elderly lady trying to leave.
We would be better served by having automatic doors that are controlled by a computer.
andrewhaji 2 years ago
Yes, I have seen that too. I just don't have my camera with me all the time. It's hard to catch these ridiculous scenes.
The scary thing is that I actually get used to this crap. Visiting Hong Kong for a week and coming back makes Toronto look like a backwards country.
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
fast
LyokoTravels 3 years ago
Realistically, when was the last time you saw anyone wanting to get on or off a train anywhere along Sheppard anyway?
gtdaquitaine 3 years ago 4
doesn't matter. i've seen it on the yonge subway, and seriously the time i HAD to hold doors to avoid being squished it was on the bloor subway. nothing to do with the sheppard subway at all
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
The doors look like the retired R33 redbirds from MTA New York City Transit
sammydenyc 3 years ago
I got caught in the door when I got in and some lady wouldn't let me in.
12ampvacume 3 years ago
lmao
gamingguy492 2 years ago 3
To set the record straight, when the "Gaurd" opens the doors, he presses a button, and the trains breaks go into a locked out mode so that the "Motorman" cannot move the train while the doors are open. The doors then open with the first chime. In order to close the doors the "Gaurd" must press and hold 2 door close buttons until all the doors are closed. When he presses the buttons the chime sounds... and then the doors begin to close. If he releases the buttons for any reason the doors re-open.
eja2k 3 years ago 2
Thanks for the info :)
TdotFunk 2 years ago
In normal operations trains mostly stop at the station for 12 seconds except in high commuter station (yonge, st.george,union,eglinton etc.)
torontosubway 3 years ago
In Hong Kong I would believe it. This is Toronto.
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
but that's only one station and it depends on how many people are getting on at that station, no one was there so the dude in the middle of the train decided to close the doors. 15 - 30 seconds is just too long, it's a waste of time, it's only cause a lot of people get on at specific stations.
Luong23 3 years ago 2
This happens at all stations. I've seen it at Yonge, if you want a busy station.
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
I thought we all were to get a four-minute warning !
Cheers.
from,
del-boy.
Rregistrarse 3 years ago 3
sure that's be nice, but not on the subway. it'd be nice if they give us a warning when they stop their buses in random places and wait for an INDEFINITE and UNKNOWN amount of time. it sure is irresponsible and inconsiderate when they stop there doing nothing for four minutes and don't tell you how much longer they're staying there
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
Seemed more like eight seconds to me!
starkey7uk 3 years ago
Eight seconds total, including the doors opening and closing, but three seconds only while the doors are open. You don't start boarding before the doors are fully open do you?
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
But you can do...
...and you see people squeezing onto trains just as the doors are closing too!
I'd say you'd have about seven seconds here - which is probably quite enough considering there doesn't seem to be anyone about!
starkey7uk 2 years ago
LOL, first, that's officially discouraged by the TTC, and second, as I said many times, I just happened to have my camera ready this time and happened to be quick enough to push it to movies mode. A lot of times it is much worse; it's just I don't have my camera with me.
So you can continue to believe that TTC doesn't have a problem. I guess I finally understand why our politicians continues to deceive us by saying Toronto is a world-class city; people actually believes this stuff.
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
Oh I see! Well, it sounds like the driver is desperate to get to the end of the line for his tea break!
I suppose that for a disabled person or an old-aged person, it might be quite difficult to use the "TTC", whatever that is.
Congratulations on pressing the Movie Mode button quickly enough, then!
starkey7uk 2 years ago
LOL. You sure like the TTC.
I just LOVE people who really think that Toronto is a world-class city and TTC has the best in design. You really need to get out of Canada and see how real world-class subways are like
Enjoy your easy-to-use TTC! Don't tell me when you get squished!
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
Oh yeah, and your comment about disabled persons is a VERY valid point. Since even youngm, non-disabled people do get stuck (remember, they don't care whether you have even finished getting off the trains, let alone getting on!), so they obviously has no respect for disabled people.
And you know our trains have stupidly designed doors with no sensors, so once you get stuck it takes them at least 5 to 10 minutes to unstuck the doors. Fast closing for smooth travel times? You bet.
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
You took this video at Bessarion Station, the second least used on the entire subway/RT system (the least being Ellesmere on the RT). If this was a station like Bathurst, Union, Bloor/Yonge or St. George, you'd have a point.
The only time you'll come up against this is if the platform is a ghost town and nobody is getting off. If that's the case, then three seconds is more than enough time to board and let off passengers as long as you're already on the platform/at a door.
mszemeredy 4 years ago 3
Yes, but this happen in every station. In fact I had to personally push the door to avoid being squished at YONGE station, and I was right there by the door all the time. It's just hard to have the camera ready at the right station at the right time.
littlelittlepotato 2 years ago
After 2 videos, I've seen the chime properly recorded.
powerfulSubtlety 4 years ago
lol. just yesterday one guy was stuck at the door because the driver closed the door before he could get out, and all the trains were delayed for at least 5 minutes. ttc's way of keeping things smooth. good luck toronto.
littlelittlepotato 4 years ago
MTR KCR Ftw xD
People suicide by jumping infront of subways.
Mtr has doors that prevent suicides xD
And toronto technology for ttc is like ancient...
erichau728 4 years ago
I really think we should have that kind of protection in our subways in Toronto! I mean, so many crazy people these days, if they don't commit suicide they might even push u off......
Toronto's TTC IS getting ancient! but they are designing a new train model for 2010 or something that is suppose to be REALLY good. lol
BrianEaZy 4 years ago
2010 o.o''
By then the technology they're bringing will be considered ancient... xD
TTC Will never move foreward... Always complaining theyre so poor... >_>
erichau728 4 years ago
That must have been an isolated case, because it happens all the time, and they just open the doors allowing the stuck person to get it (often it's a bag that gets stuck), and quickly close them.
powerfulSubtlety 4 years ago
the 3 second doors r to keep subway traffic moving smooth
pplk23 4 years ago 7
for this video, yes, but i don't have my camera on video mode wth me all the time. and i have seen personally i-don't-remember-how-many times where the bells start ringing when people are still trying to just get in (and a few times when people are still getting out!). i once HAD TO hold the door because the doors are closing on me even though i started boarding long before the bells were rang.
so maybe those guys are sloppy at their jobs, or doze off. i honestly don't know what they are doing.
littlelittlepotato 4 years ago
You're right about that. I remember one time I was heading home, the subway doors closed on my backpack. Worst of all, the guy controlling the doors forgot to sound off the warning chimes!!! Anyways, I've got to say, this video is very well done, and captures the sounds very well. You should do this more often. :)
046547717 4 years ago 3
The chimes were probably broken. When the doors close, there's alwasy a chime unless it broken. If the chime is broken on all cars, you hear two whistles before the doors close. Thats how they did it before chimes I think.
ttcgeek 4 years ago
Thats bull. The doors are designed so that once the chime goes off, you have enough time to cross the line between the platform and the train. If the door closes on you, you either went after the chime or just took your sweet time to cross. Why should everyone have to wait for you to get on the train?
I dont get what the problem here is. If you miss a train, there is always another one 3-5 minutes behind. If its rush hour, even less time. There is no need to rush the doors.
Tuscani01 4 years ago 7
I don't know if you realize this, but they actually monitor the doors to make sure no one gets caught and people have enough time. Have you noticed that there was no one waiting at that station to get in? And anyone who was, was ready to get on. Have you noticed the waits at the bloor-danforth line? Do you ever catch those guys who are in the cabins between the first and last that stick there heads out at every stop to check?
BardiaD 4 years ago 4
wow
pplk23 4 years ago