@TheGerrybhoy67 You are a sectarian RC Bigot. The same bigot that went to a Sectarian RC school, the same kind of school Neil Lennon attended. And that is where the root of sectarianism comes from. Your bigoted comment is proof, thanks.
Great words from Barry. Personally I just wish everyone would forget their imaginary friends and dump religion altogether but failing that, we need more initiatives like this because attitudes and grudges like those in Ireland are formed at an early age. Religious and political indoctrination is a form of brainwashing that only serves to undermine society as a whole and in the end very few people actually benefit from it except insecure neanderthals. Wake up and listen to Barry people.
im english born and bread in leicester but if i was irish id want to be ira. what the british did to them was horrid. we killed hundreds of women n kids. do your homewrk before going on one
If you had bothered to read any of my comments, you will learn that it was the church of Rome that is fully responsible for the 'troubles' in Ireland. If indeed you had been BRED in London or even Manchester, maybe you would not be so in favour of this deluded murderous band of bigots called the IRA, as you or members of your family might have been victims of their bombing on the British mainland. So I would suggest you do your homework before making any comments.
If you really believe that Rome is responsible for the troubles then you must be out of your mind.Catholics were pissed off living in a two-tier system and when they tried to do something peaceful about it they were met with resistance and even death by their own security forces.
Still though,i agree that integrated schools are a no brainer.The likes of McGuigan set a great example to all of us.
@WitheringPose Yes I do really believe that Rome is the root casue of the all Ireland's troubles. Read the book: 'Ireland and the pope: A Brief History of Papal Intrigues Against Irish Liberty' this clearly explains where it all started to go wrong for the Irish. James McGuire a Roman Catholic and US Supreme Court Judge explains.
@32eire32jim Read my reply to withering Pose and it explains why this is the case. Ireland had an independent church, until and English pope, imposed the fraudulent Literal church of Rome. This is the point when Ireland lost its freedom and Celtic/Gnostic church. England was backed by the vatican, only until the reformation and England's break from Rome did the troubles magnify and intensify, but the damage was originally orchestrated by the church 100%
@2up2u You're just anti Irish and trying to justify englands oppression of this island, I can't stand the catholic church or the english plague that has infested this country
@32eire32jim Thanks for your comment. Both sides of my family were from Ireland, so I can't be anti-Irish. I'm stating a plain fact that the church of Rome gave the authority and political motivation for the English to invade it and then make money from the invasion through tax themselves. If you hate the catholic church, why are you defending it?
@2up2u I've got a sneaking suspicion that u are scottish loyalist. I never once "defended" the catholic church. I simply asked u how is rome the root cause of Irelands trouble. It's not about catholic and protestant, it's about right and wrong. England is to blame for Irelands troubles and there's no two ways about it. Stop hating catholics, grow up and get some sense. You have been programmed to hate, get on with ur life and stop the bullshit ur tryin to promote
@32eire32jim I see you favourited a video jim, a video glorifying the IRA. This clearly shows who you really are, a protestant hating IRA provo scumbag, with a warped mind and ideology. You clearly do not want peace, but the genocide of the Ulster Scot, the real victim of Ireland's troubles historically. Shame on you bigot.
@32eire32jim Read the book: A Brief history of Papal Intrigues Against irish Liberty, by James George Maguire - a US Supreme Court Judge and an Irish Catholic. He tells the truth on the subject and clearly cites the Roman church behind the demise of the Irishman's freedom. he also clearly states with evidence why the Vatican did authorise the invasion with a papal Bull, it is not up for debate that point so dont try and say it is dubious. You are a sad IRA bigot,
@32eire32jim In that case leave the Ulster Scots alone, they are Irish; victims not only from the Roman church, but historically from the English Anglican church, that forced thousands to America.
@2up2u You seem to think that Ulster Scots are in some way the vitims here, that's simply not true. In the south of Ireland catholics and protestants live side by side along with many other religions with no anomosity. Loyalists and unionists are the ones who hold everything back. There is right and wrong here and Ulster Scots are in the wrong, this country belongs to Ireland not the U.K
@32eire32jim In 1991, the population of the Republic of Ireland was approximately 3% Protestant, but the figure was over 10% in 1891, indicating a fall of 70% in the Protestant population over the past century.
In the border counties, there were instances of Protestants being intimidated by more extreme neighbours and groups, most notably the IRA. There are records of Protestant farmers in these areas being attacked. Many Protestants responded by moving across the border into N. Ireland
@2up2u One of the largest historical famines (proportional to the affected population) was the Great Famine in Ireland, which began in 1845 and occurred as food was being shipped from Ireland to England because only the English could afford to pay higher prices. Over 1.5 million died, many more had to emmigrate. Do you think that the Irish are justified in hating the british or not? Simple question
@32eire32jim What has that to do with Ulster Scots living in Northern Ireland? They were not responsible for that. You have nothing against English as long as they are Roman Catholic. Celtic's last manager was English, did all you Provos' hate him? NO, cos he was a member of the church of Rome - one of yer ain folk so to speak.
@2up2u What are you on about Celtic for, I'm talking about british opression of my country. You are the one with the problem against catholics, I don't give a fuck what colour or creed you are. You are trying to justify what the brits have done to Ireland and blaming the catholic church for britain invading Ireland, get real. Celtic have always signed prods, so what. We aren't the biggots, you're a fuckin head case. you've gone from talkin about the troubles to a football team. wtf?
@32eire32jim I am making a point that it is religion that drives the Republican movement. The IRA should bomb the Vatican if they want revenge, for the invasion of their country, not persecuting the Ulster Scot protestant, who were victims and pawns in the plantations. From 1641 the irish catholics have sown the seeds for their problems, an ignorant people driven by a blood thirsty church and a pathological hatred for protestants.
@32eire32jim You do give a fuck what creed you are, all Provos do. You are murderous bigoted protestant hating scumbags, end of. The IRA, the band of bigots who blow to pieces innocent men, women and children, and you have the cheek to call me a fucken head case. The point I made was 100% correct. Engalnd is OK as long as it is under Rome, as it was when many Engiish made up the population in Ireland after the invasions in the 12th century.
@2up2u I have absolutely no problem with prods, muslims hidndus or any other religion. I do have a problem with loyalists. You keep on about innocent people killed by the IRA, is it o.k for the british to kill millions? Are you that far out of touch that you cant see what's wrong here. Are you really that fuckin thick, u think it's ok that the brits fucked this country around so much and that they should be allowed to get away with it. For fuck sake, get real here. Think about it
@32eire32jim As I keep telling you, but you are in denial, the seeds of Ireland's problems stem directly from the Vatican, as it put the Celtic/Gnostic church directly into Rome's hands and profited from it. If you have no problem with other creeds, then you should agree with Barry McGuigan and have mixed schooling. Do you agreee that society should be secular and religion should be kept to the home and not be involved in any politics? Bombing civilians does not solve any problems.
@32eire32jim If there had been no IRA, there would be no loyalists. The living standards of the catholic Irish in Northern Ireland was still better that the Republic at the start of the troubles. The Troubles wre started by IRA scum who used this fallacy of inequality to take Ulster, which is the last stronghold of the Ulster Scott/ Protestant, and if you think the RA will drive them out, think again PROVO JIM.
LOYALISTS DON'T BELONG ON THIS FUCKIN ISLAND, ARE YOU THAT FUCKIN THICK?? REMEMBER BLOODY SUNDAY YOU MORON. IF GERMANY HAD WON THE WAR WOULD YOU ACCEPT LIVING UNDER GERMAN OCCUPATION, ANSWER THIS QUESTION AND THAT'S THE END OF IT. THE IRA WERE HEROES AND AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER COUNTRYS WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM IMPERIALIST REGIEMES
@32eire32jim The Ulster Scot has a right to live on that Island as any other person, infact the migration of Scots/Irish has been going on for thousands of years. Bloody Sunday was IRA scum that triggered that incident by firing first at soldiers who had the previous week been bombed and killed by the IRA. As for Germany and the war, it was the IRA and the Irish PM de Valera who aided and sided with Hitler (a devout RC himself). De Valera gave Nazi's new ID's after the war. SCUM SCUM SCUM
@2up2u I see no difference between Nazi Germany and imperialist britain, none whatsoever. But the nazi's didn't invade Ireland like the english did. Answer my question, if Germany had won the war, would you accept that you were a loyal subject of the feurer or would you do something about it?
@32eire32jim The Nazi's didn't invade Ireland becasue Ireland was an Alli, and the Irish were hoping for Germany to win the war. The comparison is ridiculous as Ireland was not invaded by Britain. Ireland was part of the United Kingdon, infact the Union Jack is the flag of Scotland, England and Ireland. It was, and I'll say it again Jim, the Roman church that sold Ireland to Catholic England in the 12th century. You never answered my questions. Is Barry right to want integrated schools?
@2up2u Jesus help you, the union jack is known as the butchers apron in Ireland. The Irish were invaded by the english and oppressed for 100's of years, Ireland was part of the U.K by force. There was never peace between the two, never in Irelands history. Trying to make a point to you is like pissin against the wind, you obviously don't have a clue about the history of this country and the shit that Irish people have had to put up with. People should be free to go to whatever school they choose
@32eire32jim Jesus never existed. You never answered my question on mixed schools, would you be happy to send your kids to them, to bringing peace in the future? You said in a comment that the Ulster Scot should not be in Ireland, should any Irish catholic be in Scotland? I stated a fact on the flag, and it is you that does not grasp the fundamentals of history, as your creed and church blot out the history that gives the full true story. Are you old English Irish, or Native irish Catholic?
@2up2u If Jesus never existed, then why the fuck are you defending protestants? You are really thick, as for integrated schools I don't care. It's up to the family where they want their children educated. I had answered that question already. Now you answer me, if Germany had won the war would you be happy to live under nazi occupation or would you rebel against it?
I'm Irish nationalist, anti british. My religion is none of your business. Why are u so interested in Ireland if ur scottish?
@32eire32jim I have already answered your question regarding Nazi Germany, the Pope's bid to win back his Holy Roman Empire. It is you that is indoctrinated into a Roman Catholic mind set and needs to read other history books insead of the biased IRA PRovo rubbish that you have been reading. Ireland was invaded by a Roman Catholic country England and backed by the vatican. It is Romanism that is the root of Ireland's troubles and until you realise that it is like talking to a brick wall.
@32eire32jim You need to read the book: Ireland and the Pope, A Brief History of Papal Intrigues Against Irish Liberty. by James George Maguire. This will open your mind and you can see the problems of Ireland in a different light. An organisation instrumental in the destruction of Ireland is the Jesuits. The book 'Black pope, A History of the Jesuits, by Ireland's nun, M F Cusack, the nun of kenmare. Avro Manhatten another ex-Romanist writes many books on the subject.
@2up2u As I've already stated, I'm a nationalist. I don't care about fuckin religion. You keep repeating yourself. If the U.K is so great why is it ranked 21st in the world on living standards while Ireland is in 5th. U have a serious misconception about Ireland and your bigotry blinds you. Stop repeating yourself over and over, religion was just used in britains policy of devide and conquer.
@32eire32jim Gerry Adams cares about religion, he is a practicing Romanist, as most provos are. I would bet my mortgage you are a practicing romanist too, you can't even be honest in yourself, and try and make this as if religion has nothing to do with it, when infact it is religion that divides the complete issue. It is you that is a blatant bigot as you have a favourite video about the IRA, who do not wish for peace, it is the assortment of beakaway Provos who are breaking thepeace process.
@2up2u I already answered that question above. If your Scottish then why don't u investigate ur own countrys history, bending over and taking it off de english. Just cos the Irish had the courage to stand up to the english plague unlike the Scots who turned traitor on their own people. Are you too shamed to look into ur countrys past? I suggest u study some real history before u come on youtube regurgitating some crap u copied and pasted off an anti catholic, pro british web site
@32eire32jim It was the Scots who stood up to the English, when Catholic England was tampling all over the UK (remember bannockburn). The Irish were stamped into English rule and the Vatican reaped the rewards of that, in the 12th century. It was when England became protestant that the troubles in Ireland accelerated. I do not defend the religion of protestants as it is literal fundamentalist Christianity and as false as the Roman church. I defend there righ to live as they wish in Ulster.
@32eire32jim The reason Irleand became prosperous was due to the EU and their handouts. Most of those EU handouts came from the British taxpayer, so be more grateful in future. Ireland was a poor backward country due to the Catholic church, the enemy of liberty, freedom and progress in Europe for the last 1700 years. If it was not for the reformation which led to the enlightenment, you would not be reaping the benefits of the society you enjoy today, cars, planes, medicine, etc etc etc.
@2up2u Ha ha, Ireland is ranked 5th in the world and UK only 21st in standards of living, I'm sick of you repeating the same lies and assumptions over and over. Goodbye and God bless, get some physchiatric help for yourself and you will be ok
@32eire32jim ha ha ha the patter of a stupid wee boy. I'm sick of giving you facts on the issues raised and you simply do not receive. It is you and your sick indoctrinated mind that needs psychiatric help. You are the donkey that knows Heehaw heehaw. Good bye to you and god bless your murderous IRA soul
@2up2u And why are Ulster Scots loyal to the queen of england then? If they were fucked around so much why are they loyal to the people that fucked them around
@32eire32jim Are you that simple Jim? After the Genocide of 1641 and Irish Independence, protestants were historically suspicious of Irish Catholics and polarized themselves to Ulster which was still British and less of a threat to there way of life than a country controlled politically by the Vatican. Both protestant and irish Catholic tried at one time to forge independence in Ireland togther i,e. Wolfe Tonne, but were thwarted by political and religious influences.
@2up2u The English King Henry II, who first started the English intervention in Ireland with an invasion of that country in 1169. Claiming to have received sanction from the Pope for the invasion - a highly dubious claim - Henry then allowed Norman lords to settle in the land, creating a festering political sore
@32eire32jim ''The Religious rupture between England and the Vatican, following the abolition of Papal authority in English territory, led pope Clement VIII to foster the Irish rebellion of 1598, not for the purpose of freeing Ireland, but for the purpose of securing from England better terms for the church, and accordingly in the following year, he sent with Oviedo, A Spaniard whom he had appointed Archbishop of Dublin'' Dolby's History p.238, Haverrty's hist p. 437
2UP, very very good points about Rome and the English nobility, mate.
And The Modern catholic church and develara's insistence that ireland be a rural country and economy held back the republic for decades - that's where they should look to to apportion blame.
The College of Cardinals for over eight hundred years, has been almost exclusively of Italians, and these have been nearly all members of a little Italian nobility consisting of a very few families - Catholic Dic., p. 118. The controlling power of the Catholic hierarchy consists of the Pope and a college of seventy Cardinals, thus the families have always been in control of the finances of the Vatican which are worth today billions This is a business and the religion is the fuel that it runs on
On the 20th of April 1888, the Pope, at the secret request of the Duke of Norfolk, issued another rescript, condemning and forbidding the use of two of the weapons of self defense invented and successfully used by the suffereing Irish, namely the plan of campaign and the boycott - text of the last rescript from the Dublin Freeman, May 5th 1888. Irish Cathlics need to realise that the biggest enemy to themselves is the R C Church , which is the covert enemy to freedom and democracy.
We will always have our schools,our churches and our culture and there is nothing you will ever be able to do about it.And you will always be plastic Brit that smells of pish and lives in your weegie midden.You will only ever be a spineless servile slave boy living off the crumbs that the English throw you.Catholicism=largest practised denomination in the UK.Hard luck serf.
Just a typical ignorant bigoted Provo Harry. They are all over the internet. This Provo wants to keep Catholic sectarian education as he detests any shape or form of people nominally of a protestant background.
Gaelicpiper clearly highlight the mindset of the Provo and his deep seated ignorance of Irish history. He states that he does not want integrated education. He states Barry McGuigan is knieve, but really the greatest admission of this bigot is his denial of hard historical facts that clearly identify the Pope and Vatican as the primary and ongoing source of Erin's trouble. James George Maguire details all this. 'Ireland and the Pope: A Brief History of Papal Intrigues Against Irish Liberty'.
2up2u some of what you say i could agree with , but reading your comments what comes through is you really hate everything and one that is irish. Thats called being a racist.
I dont hate the irish, my family comes from Ulster, therefore how could I hate my ancestory. What I do hate is Republican IRA activists and supporters. These people do not want peace, rather genocide and the extermination of the Ulster/Scott. Read the comments of gaelicpiper to get into the mindset of what I hate.
This guy gaelicpiper is a reprehensible ignorant arsewipe.
Nobody should reply to his crap because it will piss him off more if he was to sit in his bedsit typing a lot of shit and nobody acknowledged his nonsene......afterall why reply to an idiot who writes words like - "yous". Thats the way housing scheme Neds communicate.
Everyone knows you are correct, 2up2u so ignore lown.
Neds line in your pish-smelling Weegie ghettoes,'yous'is a Hiberno-English colloquialism.You Sun readers really need to get your act together.And remember the next time that you are writing your drivel that it is 'that's'when spoken or repeated speech and 'that is'when written.If you are going to laugh at folk stop leaving yourself open to ridicule you pleb.Now then,what was it you were saying about the way pish-smelling Weegies & Wannabe English Plastic Brits communicate?
The Nun of Kenmare says of this bull: 'There can be no reasonable doubt of the authenticity of this document. Baronius published it from the Codex Vaticanus, John XXII. (Pope), annexed it to his brief addressed to Edward II, (Edward III); and John of Salisbury (Catholic Bishop of Chartres, then secretary to the Archbishop of Canterbury, states distinctly in his metalogicus, that he obtained this bull from Adrian - Harvey, O'Halloran, Dr O'Callaghan very conclusively prove its genuineness.
Whether any Pope gave permission for any invasion is a mute point-Brits invaded Ireland period & Queen Elizabeth granted land to Planters not any Pope you utter pleb.Ireland is one of umpteen places that you parasites went robbing & no matter how much you try to bend info it was a Brit Army that came here-no Papal soldiers,vessels,commanders or resources ever used. Contrary to the will of the majority of Irish folk you mob stayed here long after any Pope had any say in Uk affairs.
No no no, it is not a mute point it is a very significant point and a point that the typical Provo hating Protestant does not want to acknowledge. The most cruel and barbarous persecution of the Irish people took place during and throughout the period of four hundred years before England became Protestant; and while the kings of England were the pope's 'beloved sons in Christ,' as they were affectionately termed. - Ireland of To-day, by M F Sullivan.
scotlands and north of ireland both separitists and sectarian schools . at least this keeps the priests happy in more ways than one . the sooner they all dog school the better .
You have not read Maguire's book you clown & reading Wikipedia will never be a substitute for a proper education.And yous wonder why your country has gone down the tubes & Brits are unemployable!?.....For God sake you cannot even get the dates of The Plantations right.The Youtube 'tube' thinks Ireland was Planted at the time of The Norman Conquest!!LOL.You are good for a laugh child but you will never fool anyone apart from yourself you bigoted wee half-breed.England invaded Ireland,fact.
I have read it clown, and you should too. Give a copy to your hero's, Adams and McGuiness. It was the reformation and the enlightenment that gave us education. Had it not been for those movements you would still be dragging your knuckles along the pavements, as I said before, you have much to be grateful for, due to the reformation. The Vtican and the RC church invaded Ireland - FACT. Now go and stick some semtex up your sorry republican arse and set a match to it. You would be more useful then
The Enlightenment started in Catholic Italy so keep your Refomation shit.The Reformation ushered in 200 years of Penal Laws here along with misappropiation of Irish economic resources so grow up.Whether The Pope did or did not produce a Laudibiliter will never change the fact that Brits invaded Ireland & no Papal Army invaded here only be a Brit one & everyone apart form you knows that. We have zero to thank the Brit cancer for & we have the same opinion of yous as every other place yous fed off
Everything you want sunshine your sort tried hard to do before and failed miserably again & again.Barry McGuigan is well intentioned but naive whereas you are just a sick,twisted,bigoted neanderthal.Folk like you are has-beens living in a decaying country run by English homos,Brussels,your Yank masters,immigrants & ethnics.You have the power do do a big NOTHING apart from live in your made-up past.Nice to see that your Orange forebears started off here then returned home,best place for yous.
In 1156 Pope Adrian IV gave to Henry II, King of England, a bull granting him the political sovereignty of Ireland; addressing him as 'my dearest son in Christ, the illustrious King of England', authorising him to 'enter Ireland, to reduce the people to obedience under the laws,' on condition that he would 'pay from each Irish family' a yearly sum of one penny to St Peter, and that you will preserve the rights of the churches of this land.-O'Halloran's history of Ireland Bk XIII Chap. VI p. 286
You are the man who said he does not like religion then quickly extolled the virtues on The Reformation even crediting it with The Renaissance which took place centuries before The Reformation you fool.You dislike the existence of Catholic Schools per se-hard luck you defeated thief.All the things that make us what we are-our schools,GAA,Gael Linn,Comhaltas Ceoltoiri Eireann,our Churches-they will always exist and there is a big ZERO you will ever be able to do about it.
I stand by what I said about ALL religion. I wish for religion to be abolished, you however want the sectarian education system to be preserved, simply becasue you are a bigot. I only pointed out that the reformation took us out of the 'Dark Ages' that the Vatican plunged Europe into. Theologicaly, Protestantism is as stupid as Roman Catholicism. Roman Catholicism never made Ireland you fool, it destroyed Ireland. Do not bomb the victims of your pope, try and bomb the Vatican instead for revenge
The reason why you are an inferior human to most Europeans is that if you go to the average German ,Russian, Italian or French person they will take ownership of their own history & not play 'the victim' blaming others for your own nation's misdeeds & moral bankruptcy.The Uk that invaded here & ran Ireland's economy into the ground along with many other places & opposed native culture at every turn.You are not the full shilling trying to make out The Pope sent Planters here.A nutter indeed.
You blame the Ulster Scot and the Planters in general for Ireland's trouble. The reality is that the planters were victims of government and religious persecution (some McDonalds of Glencoe were sent to Ireland too). The real reason for Irelands troubles lies with the church of Rome, before during and after the reformation as the cardinals in Rome, 2 thirds are Italian nobility in cahoots with English nobility, read james George McGuire to get the full picture, you bigoted nutter.
Stop sending your biased irish history videos gaelicpiper, they briefly mention 1641, but revel in Oliver Cromwell, this is the history of bigots. Does he mention the vile and corrupt Roman church as they sent rescript after rescript to every movement in ireland that wanted freedom (including Orangemen). It was the Ulster Scot that left for America due to politcal and religious persecution by the English government. Rome and the English nobility polarised both sides through religion.
Under all 'their Catholic Majesties,' from Henry II to Henry VIII (nearly 400 years), the Native Irish people, with the exception of five familes, were outlaws. They were murdered at will, like dogs, by their English Catholic neighbours in Ireland, and there was no law to punish the murderers. - Ireland as She is pp18 to 27.
So having read that. I will ask you again provo bigot. Are you descended from the English Catholics placed by the Pope or are you from the Native Irish Catholic?
Anglo-Norman Lords came to Ireland in 1169 with French,Flemish & Welsh soldiers not the the 11th century you Comprehensive School wannabe.If you fancy a chat about DNA check out D.Bradley & E.Hills' DNA map of Ireland which shows that we are primarily descended from neolihic man with the only major change to our genetic makeup being the influx of Celts 4,500 to 2,000 years ago.Are you going to get round to getting educated or just spend your time bombing kids in impoverished countries mongrel?
Well done, French, (Normans) Flemish, Angles, Saxons, Danes, all from England, sent by the Pope were settled into Ireland under Roman Catholicism. It must pain and disturb you to realise that the reason for your troubles is down to your backward religion. The Religion of Rome that kept the Irish in the dark ages. The Reformation and the Enlightenment has given you the stadnard of living you enjoy now. The English built Dublin. How ungrateful, bitter and bigoted you are.
Pope Adrian posssibly,probably not,gave permission for Anglo-Norman Lords to 'restore order'to the church so that gives the Limey mongrels permission to run amok here for years!?Get a grip child,you do not even know the difference between invading a place & colonisising a place but what can we expect from someone who does not even know what CENTURY Ireland was invaded in you.Dublin was founded by Vikings who were then driven out by us natives whilst we built this country.
Ha ha ha. Restore order to the church? The Celtic church was a distinct and separate entity to the church of Rome you inbred bigoted deluded murdering reptile. Why was there so many synods and the Vatican invaded ireland to tax the pagan/christian Irish Celts? You need to read up on the real origins of christianity to grasp the underlying fundamental issues regarding the subjugation of Ireland. Oh 'Pope Adrian, possibly, probably not' make up your mind bigot. Hard to take the truth eh!
There is proof for & against a Laudibiliter pleb but unlike you I do not read things then only rememember what suits your warped mind-No homogeneous unified Celtic Church ever existed & 'restoring order'was the excuse your English masters thought of to go raping & pillaging here.You will have to tell us all when this Papal Army arrived in Ireland slave boy & why all those foreign soldiers that got run out of Dublin had Brit accents?What Pope Adrian done is an aside,you spongers came here.
I am surprised that you have the time to come on here at all you pish-smelling Plastic Brit.Aren't you self-deluded Imperialists spending all your time these days killing all those kids & old women/robbing more national assets in the Middle East again.Now let me think,whose backyard are yous wrecking this week?Egypt?No.Aden?No.Cyprus?No.Palestine?No.-They were last week weren't they?It is easy to lose track of where it is exactly that you parasites have shown up again.Some things never change.
To the typical Provo a sad example of the ignorant bigoted warped and half-filled truth he gets from the Catholic clergy and a sectarian school education system. The Vatican is the root cause of the bigotry and trouble in Ireland. The planters were put there by the Crown as it was CROWN land, given by the Pope. The Vatican's determination to keep Ireland Catholic after the reformation and the genocide of 1641 is where the 'troubles' took route as sectarianismt. NO SURRENDER to the IRA scum scum
FOR ALL YOU BITTER AND TWISTED PROVOS. READ THE BOOK: IRELAND AND THE POPE - A BRIEF HISTORY OF PAPAL INTRIGUES AGAINST IRISH LIBERTY BY JAMES GEORGE MAGUIRE.
Here is a profound statement from the book: 'the subjugation of Ireland to English rule, as is well known to students of Irish history, was NOT accomplished by the force of English arms, but by the decree and grant of pope Adrian IV, supplemented and enforced by decrees and orders of Pope Alexander III.
Your sum knowledge of history is wikipedia-you are not fooling folk wannabe & if you had read that piece properly you would have seen the quote from Pope John in 1311.England invaded Ireland & only left when yous got a good beating by the natives.You can bend your 'facts'to justify your own mental state & bigotry but you will kid no one apart from your BNP pals.Unlike yourselves we never experienced,'The Dark Ages'you clueless pleb & you need to stop quoting from books you have not read pleb
I dont get history from Wikepdedia, nor am I a member of BNP. You are evidence of the REAL problem with Ireland, a product of mis-information and half-truths. You are so bitter and bigoted you dont even want an integrated education system, not like me who is 100% in favour for kids to go to school together. You have the mindset of the Irishman who was brainwashed by the Roman religion to murder and destroy the Protestants placed in Ireland through the crown, victims of religion and politics.
There will never ever be integrated education here-we do not want it.Yous tried before,unsuccessfully, to stop native Irish having the education system of our choice.Unlike bigoted you I have zero interest in anyone's religion but am aware that Irish folk still have to stand up to Brit aggression & Imperialism like so many tothers acroo the globe had to do also.You are a typical self-deluded Brit hypocrite with your victim mentality always blaming other folk no matter how many fights yous have.
And the last time I saw a Union Jack round here the locals were burning it.Seems to happen alot in Ireland doesn't it?In fact your rag of a Butcher's Apron seems to have been burnt & used for toilet paper by a variety of nationalities around the place,Not very popular are yous?Wonder why? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .............................
Oh dear, burning the red saltire of ireland. It is only through the EU that the Republic of Ireland got its prosperity, mainly by the funds coming from the UK citizen. So thank me for raising your backward standard of living. You are now voting against the EU becasue you realise that you are not an independent nation, even after all the bombing and killing you have done. You are all a shower of deluded, ignorant, murdering bigoted arseholes.
You are an imbecile & living proof of why your country is in decay.If you knew anything you would have shut your mouth regarding anyone's standard of living.Irish per capita income has been markedly superior to that over the U.K's for numerous years irrespective of any EU grants.All you baby-killing scroungers ever done here was run the place into the ground & steal anything yous could get your hands on.We owe you asmjuch as every other ex-colony,absolutely nothing apart from contempt.
And before I forget... "waged the worst genocide ever in Europe".......is that another one of your 'facts' fool?Forget about Stalin,Hitler,Franco,Cromwell & The French Revolution did you?LOL...you really know your history don't you wee man?Typical stupid uneducated working class Brit aren't you?You wouldn't know a fact if it hit you in the face...just stick to reading The Sun & chatting your to your knuckledragging pals down the pub.You fuckers invaded here,no one else you imbecile-grow up.
Your recent comments will give an insight into the mindset of a Romanist Irish Provo, again not taking historical facts into the irish problem, the Provo wants genocide, to rid Ireland of the ulster Scot/Protestant. Unfortunately for you I do know my history and all my comments are facts. The fact is, the church of Rome is at the root of the problem. For your information, Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic. Again Rome is at the bottom of the dirt. I'll repeat the Irish flag is in the Union Jack
Absolutely,an unapologetic proud supporter of militant Irish Republicanism & the international fight against Brit aggression.Our flag is the glorious Green,White & Orange that proudly flies over our Dail & was first popularised when the might of your Empire was taken on & driven into the Irish sea at the end of the barrel of a gun.Your decaying country invaded this place & no amount of your shit will change that.'worst genocide ever in Europe'...LOL.Aye you sure are full of facts child!LOL
Revenge?Vatican?We have tried many times to blow-up where the trouble started,England LOL.You cannot rewrite history child & no amount of trying to rewrite history will ever prove that any Laudibiliter ever existed.More to the point,we do not want yous,never wanted yous & drove yous out of this country at the end of a barrel of a gun like umpteen other nationalities did once we showed them how it was done.We are here,always have been & always will be just like our religion & culture.
Since when was any colonial fight against British parasites about religion?Taking the fight to Limey thieves & their pish-smelling wannabe-English Weegie s & plastic Brits in Belfast is zero to do with religion.
With comments like that, no wonder there is bigotry in Northern Ireland. Many republicans come out with this comment, but when you point the troubles in Ireland as originating with the Roman Catholic church, suddenly the communist republicans come to the aid of the church of Rome. Of course it is about religion, that is the root of the problem. I gather then you will be in favour of having integrated schools, then we can rid religion out of the equation. Or is it genocide you want.
You lying toad.The Troubles arose when Brits started killing natives yet again & indigenous Ulstermen demanded full rights in their OUR country.Not being Communist I support folk's rights to have the education of their choice unlike bigots like you.I absolutely despise self-deluded hypocritical half-breed Brits,yous are a cancer on the face of our planet so it would do us all a favour if yous hurried-up & died- off quicker.Religious schools or not-yous will always be hateful cunts!!
I did not lie but told a historical fact. If you wanted peace you would agree with Barry McGuigan and push for integrated schools. The Scotti/Ulaid were the people from Ulster who crossed to Scotland and gave the name that is now Scotland. The transfer of people from Scotland to Ulster has been going for thousands of years. The problem was when the English Pope Adrian IV sold the Celtic Irish church to the Roman Catholic English Monarchy namely Henry II. Religion is the root of the problem.
It was their country - Ireland was part of the United Kingdom. The Union Jack has the Irish flag contained in it (the Red Saltire). It was the Pope and the Vatican that gave Ireland to the English Roman Catholic Monarchs, therefore Ireland from that point was crown land. After the reformation, the Vatican in desperation not to lose Catholic Ireland to Protestant England, waged the worst genocide ever in Europe, by murdering protestant planters. Only Religion and Rome is to blame, nobody else.
Catholic Church to blame for Limeys invading OUR country hundreds of years before pope Adrian's forged document?Typical Brit logic!Ireland has always belonged to natives & it is a shame that more Brit colonists did not get their comeuppance-it was the right thing to do & saved the lives & property of many natives.Across the world Brits have always had to die when locals have fought for freedom & peace-long may it continue.You cannot rewrite history,yous are mongrel thieves & terrorist criminals.
You are just angry that Irish folk have always had the bottle to stand up to maladjusted warmongerering Brit bigots like you.70% of your Plantes were limeys & the rest were Lowland Scots so do not give us your Scotti shit you know-nothing.We indigenous Ulstermen have never been able to stand the site of your half-breed mongrel Blow-ins & no matter how self-deluded you are we Irish will always have the same opinion of yous as every other unfortunate people that have met your scum.
It is you who is angry. I point out facts and truth, but such is your level of bigotry you can't take truth. Are you an 'old English' Roman Catholic irishman, or a native Irish Man? Many republicans are actually Anglo Saxons that came from England, due to an English pope's plans to invade Ireland with the aid of an English Roman Catholic Monarchy. As I said before. Ireland's troubles are due to the church of Rome in particular and religion in general. Sinead O'Connor hit the nail on the head.
Republicans are WASPs!?LOL.A few Normans came here 1,000 & that makes us as a pile of mongrels like you mob-get a grip you storyteller & get reading .You are an example why half the globe have wanted you self-deluded fools dead & away from about them.Most of you Clowns went home when yous got sent packing from the 26 Counties with your tails between your legs & will do the same in The North soon enough then there will be no more Brit cancers in our country with your made-up history & tall tales
I've been out all day trying to find all the Saxons round here but to no avail.I did find a book though that reminds us who killed most of the inhabitants of Wexford & Drogheda.Let me think now...it was you mob!Thank God we taught yous a wee lesson at that bridge near Portadown or there might have been more of yous around to pilfer from & hassle the locals.Same book also mentions all the other places that yous ended up making a mess of & then the locals having to kill yous to get a bit of peace.
Try looking in your library instead you ignorant lowlife Provo murdering scum bag. There was an invasion of English in the 11th century, due to the Pope and his quest for money 'Peter's pence', that is why Ireland has many Anglo Saxon English ancestors. I'll ask you again, are you maybe one of them. Get your DNA checked, you brainwashed bigot.
English invaded Ireland in the 11th century?LOL.Saxons were too busy slopping out pig-pens for their Norman masters to be invading anyone.Face it wee man,you are just a BNP fuckwit but deep down you just want folk to be as big a half-breed as you bunch of has-beens.The largest practised religions in YOUR country is Catholic & Muslim-it's hilarious.Yous are run by immigrants,ethnics,English homos,Brussels & The Yanks-sure you couldn't make it up!Unlike you my DNA is fine mongrel boy.Ha ha ha.
You are an absolute lying toad & you cannot even get basic facts like what a red saltire is so who exaclty do you think that anyone apart from yourself is going to do anything other than laugh at the shit that you come out with? Away to Afghanistan & die you daft eejit.
Fuck u, whats ur obsessing with the IRA u waster Loyalists are still murdering innocent Catholics outside their homes and ur bleating on about the IRA, is it cause they are STILL UNDEFEATED love the Pic of u in ur BG BTW LOL???!
I have a problem with british running Unionists murder squads that murdered women and Children, also Brit soldiers who kill children with plastic and lead bullets???
Oh Dear ! It is a well known fact that,while travelling to Damascus, Saint Paul fell off his horse and suffered brain damage which subsequently led to his conversion to Christianity. I fear that Harry is suffering from the effects of physical trauma to the brain. I suspect damage to the temporary, sorry temporal lobe.
well harry are you gonna unblock me as I have done so for you? or are you not a man of your word?
and there's no problem supporting Rangers, that doesnt make you a bigot, but when you start calling Irish and Scots/Irish ''tarrier scum'' etc and all your other insults that's what makes you a bigot and you were up until very recently, easily one of the biggest bigots on YT, so are you taking back everything you've said about Catholics etc?
And just who the fuck are you? Are you insinuating that just because you and I have never spoken that my account is less valid? I've had this account much longer than you've had yours mate, so please, pretty please, with sugar on top, don't talk such nonsense! :)
If you post a vid and then enable comments to be made, people are going to comment, aren't they? I found your vid through looking at the recent activity of a few users whose pages I visit on occasion. Is that ok?
My sincere apologies Dagger, when I saw you speaking to Harry I assumed you were datten or jaggedthistle or even freethequeen, who are suspected of being one person. Welcome to the debate. If you are anti-religious and anti-pope going by your channel, then you must see the sense in abolishing sectarian faith based schools, what is your view point on this.
Apology accepted 2up, and permit me to apologise to you if my last message was a bit narky, I didn't mean it to look that way. :)
I wouldn't neccessarily say I'm anti-religious, although I don't practice a faith personally, but no matter how devout any person's faith is, no one knows what awaits us after death, if anything at all. I am an agnostic theist. As long as people don't try to ram their beliefs down others throats, I have no problem with any religion.
....I went to Catholic primary and high school, but some of my best friends who I'm still close to today went to non-denominational schools, and many of them are Rangers fans.
I think the main cause of bigotry is intolerance and a lack of respect for others. This may sound a bit twee, but I think if children were raised to be proud of their own roots, culture, faith etc but to also be respectful, friendly & open-minded towards others with different backgrounds, we'd all be much happier.
I have many catholic friends too, but being segragated would have given me the opportunity to have even more and, also less enemies due to the divide. Do you agree that integrated schools would help in any way the bigotry problem? please answer yes or no, unless you are a politician.
To answer your question, on one hand yes, I would like to see the Catholic Church in Scotland lose its grip on education. I dont like the way the Catholic Church always seems to try to bully and cajole its flock through guilt rather than reason. And as Ive said on other vids, some Catholic doctrine is absolutely ludicrous, for example their stance on contraception.
Having said that, I was educated in Catholic schools and while the issue of...
Thanks for your reply dagger. You are correct, it is time to stop all the marches that create truimphalism within communities. My stance is to take away all religion that entangles with State. Religion should be kept prvately to the individual. I'm against Orange and Green Parades. To be an Orangeman you need to pledge a belief in jesus Christ. And you know going by my other video that I firmly believe Jesus never existed, he is another solar myth.
I believe that you have previously stated that the monarchy and church needs to be separated: ie disestablishment of the Churches of England, Scotland and NI. This would go a long way to eradicating the political/cultural element of sectarianism.
Thanks 2up, no worries. I agree with you entirely that a person's faith should be a private matter.
Any religion needs priests, monks, imams, rabbis etc to offer spiritual and emotional guidance to his or her congregation, but when it gets to the stage where religious leaders interfere in politics the way Christian and Muslim religious leaders for example do in certain countries then it makes you wonder whether these people are truly pious or just desperate for power.
The " supreme leader " in Iran is an excellent example I work with two wonderful Iranian women, both devout muslims, but absolutely opposed to the regime in Iran. Out of courtesey: I'm Frank Bough!
....faith was always there, in primary school especially, with the exception of when I went through my Conformation and First Communion I never felt like religion was being force-fed to me, and it was certainly never said or implied that making friends with protestants was anathema to the Catholic Church or community.
So it is far too one-sided to say that abolishing separate Catholic schools would end bigotry in Scotland. That is akin to saying that bigotry is the fault of Catholics alone...
...which of course is not the case. There are other institutions that exacerbate the problem, primarily the Orange Lodge.
I think the belligerent nature of many Orangemen with regards to not just their religious beliefs but also regarding their marches is an enormous factor in the sectarian nature of Scotland.
If separate Catholic schools were abolished and their pupils amalgamated into non-denominational schools, then I would ideally like to see the Orange Lodge dissolved in Scotland...
...at the same time, but at the very least I would expect all Orange marches to be banned immediately. This would go some way to ensure that there was no triumphalism on either side.
My experiences mirror your own Dagger. One of the problems is that religion and cultural identity are confused in the West Of Scotland. Throw into the mix the NI shite and you've got a mess. Discrimination against the Irish predates the 1918 education act. Racism is the cause of bigotry, not catholic schools.
I think it's ok if your religion forms a big part of your cultural identity Datten, as long as it doesn't make you distrustful of or discriminate against other religions or cultures.
It all comes down to what values our parents instil in us, mate. My father's Protestant and my mother's Catholic, although neither is particularly devout. Neither of them were overly concerned about my faith, their priority was making sure I was a decent(ish! haha!) human being who had respect for other people.
I agree Dagger. I think that we must always remember that it is a minority of bigots who have a disproportionate effect on society. Your comments with regard to the Orange Lodge are spot on.
Thanks Datten, I'm glad that you agree. You're right mate, there's a proportionally small number of total arseholes on both sides but most of us are good guys. The bad just sells more newspapers than the good so it gets more attention, that's what I sometimes think anyway.
As I've said before, when push comes to shove, forget Catholic/Protestant or Celtic/Rangers, we're all Scots, and more importantly, we're all human. :)
Well said Akaviri. The media have a tendency to explode out of all proportion the minorities on both sides to sell papers. I would say the media have a big hand in flaming the fans of bigotry in Scotland. They have to be held responsible.
You're right 2up, some elements of the media here are total shit-stirrers and they should be accountable, but they never seem to be taken to task over the inflammatory rhetoric they produce.
I want to see if the 'usual suspects' among us have the will to change our percptions of the bigotry and hatred that is obvious between us.
If there is any group of people more divided than us who disrespect each other more then I'd like to know who they are.
Is it possible for people to bridge the sectarian divide even if its only on YT? If WE can do it then I suspect anyone can but I think it will take a helluva effort. can it be done?
Harry, I've never insulted your religion (although I admit I've insulted everything else about you!), so if there is bigotry between us, then it's purely on your part. I don't hate you either, I merely think you're a complete arsehole.
I've not been a Catholic for donkey's years, so I could not give less of a fuck for the pope or any other megalomaniac religious leader who tries to interfere with politics and every other aspect of people's lives.
I've offered an olive branch of friendship and while I expect this to come as a surprise to YOU I believe that if this particular group of combatants can overcome our prejudices and sectarian bile - then almost anyone can.
I know some shall be proven to be out and out bigots and for them there no help but only time will tell which of us are the REAL BIGOTS.... I now its not me !!!
What about YOU, Dagger?................. soon, we shall see
I left a more concilliatory message than the one below to you on another vid, Harry. Time will tell indeed, whether you are genuinely trying to build bridges or whether this is just some ruse on your part, which is what I suspect, although I'm trying not to be cynical.
Why dont you shut your fucking mouth you stupid little prick...I will not let my Kids/Grandkids sit next to no Protestant Bastards..End Of...
TheGerrybhoy67 1 year ago
@TheGerrybhoy67 gerry get your head examined you gormless cunt
36crazyguy 1 year ago
@TheGerrybhoy67 You are a sectarian RC Bigot. The same bigot that went to a Sectarian RC school, the same kind of school Neil Lennon attended. And that is where the root of sectarianism comes from. Your bigoted comment is proof, thanks.
2up2u 10 months ago
AND WHAT THE FUCK would barry mcguigan know about peace walls
badslabber 1 year ago
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR EASTWOOD.....OH BARRY BOY....HE SOLD HIS SOUL FOR ENGLISH GOLD
badslabber 1 year ago
@badslabber What a stupid fucken comment
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u BUT TRUE !
badslabber 1 year ago
Great words from Barry. Personally I just wish everyone would forget their imaginary friends and dump religion altogether but failing that, we need more initiatives like this because attitudes and grudges like those in Ireland are formed at an early age. Religious and political indoctrination is a form of brainwashing that only serves to undermine society as a whole and in the end very few people actually benefit from it except insecure neanderthals. Wake up and listen to Barry people.
GuyAwoke 2 years ago
im english born and bread in leicester but if i was irish id want to be ira. what the british did to them was horrid. we killed hundreds of women n kids. do your homewrk before going on one
frenchielcfc 2 years ago
If you had bothered to read any of my comments, you will learn that it was the church of Rome that is fully responsible for the 'troubles' in Ireland. If indeed you had been BRED in London or even Manchester, maybe you would not be so in favour of this deluded murderous band of bigots called the IRA, as you or members of your family might have been victims of their bombing on the British mainland. So I would suggest you do your homework before making any comments.
2up2u 2 years ago
@2up2u:
If you really believe that Rome is responsible for the troubles then you must be out of your mind.Catholics were pissed off living in a two-tier system and when they tried to do something peaceful about it they were met with resistance and even death by their own security forces.
Still though,i agree that integrated schools are a no brainer.The likes of McGuigan set a great example to all of us.
WitheringPose 2 years ago
@WitheringPose Yes I do really believe that Rome is the root casue of the all Ireland's troubles. Read the book: 'Ireland and the pope: A Brief History of Papal Intrigues Against Irish Liberty' this clearly explains where it all started to go wrong for the Irish. James McGuire a Roman Catholic and US Supreme Court Judge explains.
2up2u 2 years ago
@2up2u How is Rome the root cause of Irelands trouble?? England is the root cause of Irelands troubles, get real.
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim Read my reply to withering Pose and it explains why this is the case. Ireland had an independent church, until and English pope, imposed the fraudulent Literal church of Rome. This is the point when Ireland lost its freedom and Celtic/Gnostic church. England was backed by the vatican, only until the reformation and England's break from Rome did the troubles magnify and intensify, but the damage was originally orchestrated by the church 100%
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u You're just anti Irish and trying to justify englands oppression of this island, I can't stand the catholic church or the english plague that has infested this country
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim Thanks for your comment. Both sides of my family were from Ireland, so I can't be anti-Irish. I'm stating a plain fact that the church of Rome gave the authority and political motivation for the English to invade it and then make money from the invasion through tax themselves. If you hate the catholic church, why are you defending it?
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u I've got a sneaking suspicion that u are scottish loyalist. I never once "defended" the catholic church. I simply asked u how is rome the root cause of Irelands trouble. It's not about catholic and protestant, it's about right and wrong. England is to blame for Irelands troubles and there's no two ways about it. Stop hating catholics, grow up and get some sense. You have been programmed to hate, get on with ur life and stop the bullshit ur tryin to promote
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim I see you favourited a video jim, a video glorifying the IRA. This clearly shows who you really are, a protestant hating IRA provo scumbag, with a warped mind and ideology. You clearly do not want peace, but the genocide of the Ulster Scot, the real victim of Ireland's troubles historically. Shame on you bigot.
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u You're claiming that the church of Rome gave england permission to invade Ireland when this is not true
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim Read the book: A Brief history of Papal Intrigues Against irish Liberty, by James George Maguire - a US Supreme Court Judge and an Irish Catholic. He tells the truth on the subject and clearly cites the Roman church behind the demise of the Irishman's freedom. he also clearly states with evidence why the Vatican did authorise the invasion with a papal Bull, it is not up for debate that point so dont try and say it is dubious. You are a sad IRA bigot,
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u Ireland belongs to the Irish, it's as simple as that
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim In that case leave the Ulster Scots alone, they are Irish; victims not only from the Roman church, but historically from the English Anglican church, that forced thousands to America.
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u You seem to think that Ulster Scots are in some way the vitims here, that's simply not true. In the south of Ireland catholics and protestants live side by side along with many other religions with no anomosity. Loyalists and unionists are the ones who hold everything back. There is right and wrong here and Ulster Scots are in the wrong, this country belongs to Ireland not the U.K
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim In 1991, the population of the Republic of Ireland was approximately 3% Protestant, but the figure was over 10% in 1891, indicating a fall of 70% in the Protestant population over the past century.
In the border counties, there were instances of Protestants being intimidated by more extreme neighbours and groups, most notably the IRA. There are records of Protestant farmers in these areas being attacked. Many Protestants responded by moving across the border into N. Ireland
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u One of the largest historical famines (proportional to the affected population) was the Great Famine in Ireland, which began in 1845 and occurred as food was being shipped from Ireland to England because only the English could afford to pay higher prices. Over 1.5 million died, many more had to emmigrate. Do you think that the Irish are justified in hating the british or not? Simple question
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim What has that to do with Ulster Scots living in Northern Ireland? They were not responsible for that. You have nothing against English as long as they are Roman Catholic. Celtic's last manager was English, did all you Provos' hate him? NO, cos he was a member of the church of Rome - one of yer ain folk so to speak.
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u What are you on about Celtic for, I'm talking about british opression of my country. You are the one with the problem against catholics, I don't give a fuck what colour or creed you are. You are trying to justify what the brits have done to Ireland and blaming the catholic church for britain invading Ireland, get real. Celtic have always signed prods, so what. We aren't the biggots, you're a fuckin head case. you've gone from talkin about the troubles to a football team. wtf?
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim I am making a point that it is religion that drives the Republican movement. The IRA should bomb the Vatican if they want revenge, for the invasion of their country, not persecuting the Ulster Scot protestant, who were victims and pawns in the plantations. From 1641 the irish catholics have sown the seeds for their problems, an ignorant people driven by a blood thirsty church and a pathological hatred for protestants.
2up2u 1 year ago
@32eire32jim You do give a fuck what creed you are, all Provos do. You are murderous bigoted protestant hating scumbags, end of. The IRA, the band of bigots who blow to pieces innocent men, women and children, and you have the cheek to call me a fucken head case. The point I made was 100% correct. Engalnd is OK as long as it is under Rome, as it was when many Engiish made up the population in Ireland after the invasions in the 12th century.
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u I have absolutely no problem with prods, muslims hidndus or any other religion. I do have a problem with loyalists. You keep on about innocent people killed by the IRA, is it o.k for the british to kill millions? Are you that far out of touch that you cant see what's wrong here. Are you really that fuckin thick, u think it's ok that the brits fucked this country around so much and that they should be allowed to get away with it. For fuck sake, get real here. Think about it
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim As I keep telling you, but you are in denial, the seeds of Ireland's problems stem directly from the Vatican, as it put the Celtic/Gnostic church directly into Rome's hands and profited from it. If you have no problem with other creeds, then you should agree with Barry McGuigan and have mixed schooling. Do you agreee that society should be secular and religion should be kept to the home and not be involved in any politics? Bombing civilians does not solve any problems.
2up2u 1 year ago
@32eire32jim If there had been no IRA, there would be no loyalists. The living standards of the catholic Irish in Northern Ireland was still better that the Republic at the start of the troubles. The Troubles wre started by IRA scum who used this fallacy of inequality to take Ulster, which is the last stronghold of the Ulster Scott/ Protestant, and if you think the RA will drive them out, think again PROVO JIM.
2up2u 1 year ago
LOYALISTS DON'T BELONG ON THIS FUCKIN ISLAND, ARE YOU THAT FUCKIN THICK?? REMEMBER BLOODY SUNDAY YOU MORON. IF GERMANY HAD WON THE WAR WOULD YOU ACCEPT LIVING UNDER GERMAN OCCUPATION, ANSWER THIS QUESTION AND THAT'S THE END OF IT. THE IRA WERE HEROES AND AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER COUNTRYS WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM IMPERIALIST REGIEMES
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim The Ulster Scot has a right to live on that Island as any other person, infact the migration of Scots/Irish has been going on for thousands of years. Bloody Sunday was IRA scum that triggered that incident by firing first at soldiers who had the previous week been bombed and killed by the IRA. As for Germany and the war, it was the IRA and the Irish PM de Valera who aided and sided with Hitler (a devout RC himself). De Valera gave Nazi's new ID's after the war. SCUM SCUM SCUM
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u I see no difference between Nazi Germany and imperialist britain, none whatsoever. But the nazi's didn't invade Ireland like the english did. Answer my question, if Germany had won the war, would you accept that you were a loyal subject of the feurer or would you do something about it?
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim The Nazi's didn't invade Ireland becasue Ireland was an Alli, and the Irish were hoping for Germany to win the war. The comparison is ridiculous as Ireland was not invaded by Britain. Ireland was part of the United Kingdon, infact the Union Jack is the flag of Scotland, England and Ireland. It was, and I'll say it again Jim, the Roman church that sold Ireland to Catholic England in the 12th century. You never answered my questions. Is Barry right to want integrated schools?
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u Jesus help you, the union jack is known as the butchers apron in Ireland. The Irish were invaded by the english and oppressed for 100's of years, Ireland was part of the U.K by force. There was never peace between the two, never in Irelands history. Trying to make a point to you is like pissin against the wind, you obviously don't have a clue about the history of this country and the shit that Irish people have had to put up with. People should be free to go to whatever school they choose
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim Jesus never existed. You never answered my question on mixed schools, would you be happy to send your kids to them, to bringing peace in the future? You said in a comment that the Ulster Scot should not be in Ireland, should any Irish catholic be in Scotland? I stated a fact on the flag, and it is you that does not grasp the fundamentals of history, as your creed and church blot out the history that gives the full true story. Are you old English Irish, or Native irish Catholic?
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u If Jesus never existed, then why the fuck are you defending protestants? You are really thick, as for integrated schools I don't care. It's up to the family where they want their children educated. I had answered that question already. Now you answer me, if Germany had won the war would you be happy to live under nazi occupation or would you rebel against it?
I'm Irish nationalist, anti british. My religion is none of your business. Why are u so interested in Ireland if ur scottish?
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim I have already answered your question regarding Nazi Germany, the Pope's bid to win back his Holy Roman Empire. It is you that is indoctrinated into a Roman Catholic mind set and needs to read other history books insead of the biased IRA PRovo rubbish that you have been reading. Ireland was invaded by a Roman Catholic country England and backed by the vatican. It is Romanism that is the root of Ireland's troubles and until you realise that it is like talking to a brick wall.
2up2u 1 year ago
@32eire32jim You need to read the book: Ireland and the Pope, A Brief History of Papal Intrigues Against Irish Liberty. by James George Maguire. This will open your mind and you can see the problems of Ireland in a different light. An organisation instrumental in the destruction of Ireland is the Jesuits. The book 'Black pope, A History of the Jesuits, by Ireland's nun, M F Cusack, the nun of kenmare. Avro Manhatten another ex-Romanist writes many books on the subject.
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u As I've already stated, I'm a nationalist. I don't care about fuckin religion. You keep repeating yourself. If the U.K is so great why is it ranked 21st in the world on living standards while Ireland is in 5th. U have a serious misconception about Ireland and your bigotry blinds you. Stop repeating yourself over and over, religion was just used in britains policy of devide and conquer.
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim Gerry Adams cares about religion, he is a practicing Romanist, as most provos are. I would bet my mortgage you are a practicing romanist too, you can't even be honest in yourself, and try and make this as if religion has nothing to do with it, when infact it is religion that divides the complete issue. It is you that is a blatant bigot as you have a favourite video about the IRA, who do not wish for peace, it is the assortment of beakaway Provos who are breaking thepeace process.
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u No I'm not a "practising Romanist" you donkey
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@2up2u I already answered that question above. If your Scottish then why don't u investigate ur own countrys history, bending over and taking it off de english. Just cos the Irish had the courage to stand up to the english plague unlike the Scots who turned traitor on their own people. Are you too shamed to look into ur countrys past? I suggest u study some real history before u come on youtube regurgitating some crap u copied and pasted off an anti catholic, pro british web site
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim It was the Scots who stood up to the English, when Catholic England was tampling all over the UK (remember bannockburn). The Irish were stamped into English rule and the Vatican reaped the rewards of that, in the 12th century. It was when England became protestant that the troubles in Ireland accelerated. I do not defend the religion of protestants as it is literal fundamentalist Christianity and as false as the Roman church. I defend there righ to live as they wish in Ulster.
2up2u 1 year ago
@32eire32jim The reason Irleand became prosperous was due to the EU and their handouts. Most of those EU handouts came from the British taxpayer, so be more grateful in future. Ireland was a poor backward country due to the Catholic church, the enemy of liberty, freedom and progress in Europe for the last 1700 years. If it was not for the reformation which led to the enlightenment, you would not be reaping the benefits of the society you enjoy today, cars, planes, medicine, etc etc etc.
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u Ha ha, Ireland is ranked 5th in the world and UK only 21st in standards of living, I'm sick of you repeating the same lies and assumptions over and over. Goodbye and God bless, get some physchiatric help for yourself and you will be ok
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim ha ha ha the patter of a stupid wee boy. I'm sick of giving you facts on the issues raised and you simply do not receive. It is you and your sick indoctrinated mind that needs psychiatric help. You are the donkey that knows Heehaw heehaw. Good bye to you and god bless your murderous IRA soul
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u And why are Ulster Scots loyal to the queen of england then? If they were fucked around so much why are they loyal to the people that fucked them around
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim Are you that simple Jim? After the Genocide of 1641 and Irish Independence, protestants were historically suspicious of Irish Catholics and polarized themselves to Ulster which was still British and less of a threat to there way of life than a country controlled politically by the Vatican. Both protestant and irish Catholic tried at one time to forge independence in Ireland togther i,e. Wolfe Tonne, but were thwarted by political and religious influences.
2up2u 1 year ago
@2up2u The English King Henry II, who first started the English intervention in Ireland with an invasion of that country in 1169. Claiming to have received sanction from the Pope for the invasion - a highly dubious claim - Henry then allowed Norman lords to settle in the land, creating a festering political sore
32eire32jim 1 year ago
@32eire32jim ''The Religious rupture between England and the Vatican, following the abolition of Papal authority in English territory, led pope Clement VIII to foster the Irish rebellion of 1598, not for the purpose of freeing Ireland, but for the purpose of securing from England better terms for the church, and accordingly in the following year, he sent with Oviedo, A Spaniard whom he had appointed Archbishop of Dublin'' Dolby's History p.238, Haverrty's hist p. 437
2up2u 1 year ago
Have you experts on all things Irish ever even been to Ireland
puddinfingers 2 years ago
2UP, very very good points about Rome and the English nobility, mate.
And The Modern catholic church and develara's insistence that ireland be a rural country and economy held back the republic for decades - that's where they should look to to apportion blame.
keep up the excellent work
thelocarno 2 years ago
The College of Cardinals for over eight hundred years, has been almost exclusively of Italians, and these have been nearly all members of a little Italian nobility consisting of a very few families - Catholic Dic., p. 118. The controlling power of the Catholic hierarchy consists of the Pope and a college of seventy Cardinals, thus the families have always been in control of the finances of the Vatican which are worth today billions This is a business and the religion is the fuel that it runs on
2up2u 2 years ago
On the 20th of April 1888, the Pope, at the secret request of the Duke of Norfolk, issued another rescript, condemning and forbidding the use of two of the weapons of self defense invented and successfully used by the suffereing Irish, namely the plan of campaign and the boycott - text of the last rescript from the Dublin Freeman, May 5th 1888. Irish Cathlics need to realise that the biggest enemy to themselves is the R C Church , which is the covert enemy to freedom and democracy.
2up2u 2 years ago
2up2u
You are wasting your time EDUCATING these sectarian, hate-filled bigots.
Imagine even trying to communicate with a monster like that bastard gaelicpiper !!!!
2up2u, you obviously know far more than people like him but good luck if you persevere with cunt.
By the way...... smashing result at Ibrox today. Well, I thought so anyway.
harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
Hello Harry, Yes great result. Thanks again for your advice.
2up2u 2 years ago
EIGHT posts in a row !!!!!! wow !!!!!
Gaelicpiper, you sure are one fucked up individual !!!!!
Get a life and realise that ULSTER IS BRITISH and its gonna stay that way !!!
Catholic schooling is DIVISIVE !!!!! end of story !!!!!
harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
We will always have our schools,our churches and our culture and there is nothing you will ever be able to do about it.And you will always be plastic Brit that smells of pish and lives in your weegie midden.You will only ever be a spineless servile slave boy living off the crumbs that the English throw you.Catholicism=largest practised denomination in the UK.Hard luck serf.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
Seems to me that Gaelicpiper cant compete in the debate so he resorts to immature shite.
A TOTAL FUCKING IMMBECILE !!!!!
Go get an education you stupid idiotic PLASTIC PADDY !!!
harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
Just a typical ignorant bigoted Provo Harry. They are all over the internet. This Provo wants to keep Catholic sectarian education as he detests any shape or form of people nominally of a protestant background.
2up2u 2 years ago
Gaelicpiper clearly highlight the mindset of the Provo and his deep seated ignorance of Irish history. He states that he does not want integrated education. He states Barry McGuigan is knieve, but really the greatest admission of this bigot is his denial of hard historical facts that clearly identify the Pope and Vatican as the primary and ongoing source of Erin's trouble. James George Maguire details all this. 'Ireland and the Pope: A Brief History of Papal Intrigues Against Irish Liberty'.
2up2u 2 years ago
2up2u some of what you say i could agree with , but reading your comments what comes through is you really hate everything and one that is irish. Thats called being a racist.
MrZzz54321 2 years ago
I dont hate the irish, my family comes from Ulster, therefore how could I hate my ancestory. What I do hate is Republican IRA activists and supporters. These people do not want peace, rather genocide and the extermination of the Ulster/Scott. Read the comments of gaelicpiper to get into the mindset of what I hate.
2up2u 2 years ago
This guy gaelicpiper is a reprehensible ignorant arsewipe.
Nobody should reply to his crap because it will piss him off more if he was to sit in his bedsit typing a lot of shit and nobody acknowledged his nonsene......afterall why reply to an idiot who writes words like - "yous". Thats the way housing scheme Neds communicate.
Everyone knows you are correct, 2up2u so ignore lown.
harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
Hello, Harrythehorse. You speak good sense, I should take your good advice in future, thanks.
2up2u 2 years ago
Neds line in your pish-smelling Weegie ghettoes,'yous'is a Hiberno-English colloquialism.You Sun readers really need to get your act together.And remember the next time that you are writing your drivel that it is 'that's'when spoken or repeated speech and 'that is'when written.If you are going to laugh at folk stop leaving yourself open to ridicule you pleb.Now then,what was it you were saying about the way pish-smelling Weegies & Wannabe English Plastic Brits communicate?
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
And what does 'nonsene' mean you pish- smelling Wannabe English tenement serf?
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
The Nun of Kenmare says of this bull: 'There can be no reasonable doubt of the authenticity of this document. Baronius published it from the Codex Vaticanus, John XXII. (Pope), annexed it to his brief addressed to Edward II, (Edward III); and John of Salisbury (Catholic Bishop of Chartres, then secretary to the Archbishop of Canterbury, states distinctly in his metalogicus, that he obtained this bull from Adrian - Harvey, O'Halloran, Dr O'Callaghan very conclusively prove its genuineness.
2up2u 2 years ago
Whether any Pope gave permission for any invasion is a mute point-Brits invaded Ireland period & Queen Elizabeth granted land to Planters not any Pope you utter pleb.Ireland is one of umpteen places that you parasites went robbing & no matter how much you try to bend info it was a Brit Army that came here-no Papal soldiers,vessels,commanders or resources ever used. Contrary to the will of the majority of Irish folk you mob stayed here long after any Pope had any say in Uk affairs.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
No no no, it is not a mute point it is a very significant point and a point that the typical Provo hating Protestant does not want to acknowledge. The most cruel and barbarous persecution of the Irish people took place during and throughout the period of four hundred years before England became Protestant; and while the kings of England were the pope's 'beloved sons in Christ,' as they were affectionately termed. - Ireland of To-day, by M F Sullivan.
2up2u 2 years ago
You are easily manipulated,go study alittle bit more
kg02170 2 years ago
I have studied and provided the references, maybe it is you who is easily manipulated.
2up2u 2 years ago
scotlands and north of ireland both separitists and sectarian schools . at least this keeps the priests happy in more ways than one . the sooner they all dog school the better .
sirjimtorbett 2 years ago
You have not read Maguire's book you clown & reading Wikipedia will never be a substitute for a proper education.And yous wonder why your country has gone down the tubes & Brits are unemployable!?.....For God sake you cannot even get the dates of The Plantations right.The Youtube 'tube' thinks Ireland was Planted at the time of The Norman Conquest!!LOL.You are good for a laugh child but you will never fool anyone apart from yourself you bigoted wee half-breed.England invaded Ireland,fact.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
I have read it clown, and you should too. Give a copy to your hero's, Adams and McGuiness. It was the reformation and the enlightenment that gave us education. Had it not been for those movements you would still be dragging your knuckles along the pavements, as I said before, you have much to be grateful for, due to the reformation. The Vtican and the RC church invaded Ireland - FACT. Now go and stick some semtex up your sorry republican arse and set a match to it. You would be more useful then
2up2u 2 years ago
The Enlightenment started in Catholic Italy so keep your Refomation shit.The Reformation ushered in 200 years of Penal Laws here along with misappropiation of Irish economic resources so grow up.Whether The Pope did or did not produce a Laudibiliter will never change the fact that Brits invaded Ireland & no Papal Army invaded here only be a Brit one & everyone apart form you knows that. We have zero to thank the Brit cancer for & we have the same opinion of yous as every other place yous fed off
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
Everything you want sunshine your sort tried hard to do before and failed miserably again & again.Barry McGuigan is well intentioned but naive whereas you are just a sick,twisted,bigoted neanderthal.Folk like you are has-beens living in a decaying country run by English homos,Brussels,your Yank masters,immigrants & ethnics.You have the power do do a big NOTHING apart from live in your made-up past.Nice to see that your Orange forebears started off here then returned home,best place for yous.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
In 1156 Pope Adrian IV gave to Henry II, King of England, a bull granting him the political sovereignty of Ireland; addressing him as 'my dearest son in Christ, the illustrious King of England', authorising him to 'enter Ireland, to reduce the people to obedience under the laws,' on condition that he would 'pay from each Irish family' a yearly sum of one penny to St Peter, and that you will preserve the rights of the churches of this land.-O'Halloran's history of Ireland Bk XIII Chap. VI p. 286
2up2u 2 years ago
You are the man who said he does not like religion then quickly extolled the virtues on The Reformation even crediting it with The Renaissance which took place centuries before The Reformation you fool.You dislike the existence of Catholic Schools per se-hard luck you defeated thief.All the things that make us what we are-our schools,GAA,Gael Linn,Comhaltas Ceoltoiri Eireann,our Churches-they will always exist and there is a big ZERO you will ever be able to do about it.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
I stand by what I said about ALL religion. I wish for religion to be abolished, you however want the sectarian education system to be preserved, simply becasue you are a bigot. I only pointed out that the reformation took us out of the 'Dark Ages' that the Vatican plunged Europe into. Theologicaly, Protestantism is as stupid as Roman Catholicism. Roman Catholicism never made Ireland you fool, it destroyed Ireland. Do not bomb the victims of your pope, try and bomb the Vatican instead for revenge
2up2u 2 years ago
The reason why you are an inferior human to most Europeans is that if you go to the average German ,Russian, Italian or French person they will take ownership of their own history & not play 'the victim' blaming others for your own nation's misdeeds & moral bankruptcy.The Uk that invaded here & ran Ireland's economy into the ground along with many other places & opposed native culture at every turn.You are not the full shilling trying to make out The Pope sent Planters here.A nutter indeed.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
You blame the Ulster Scot and the Planters in general for Ireland's trouble. The reality is that the planters were victims of government and religious persecution (some McDonalds of Glencoe were sent to Ireland too). The real reason for Irelands troubles lies with the church of Rome, before during and after the reformation as the cardinals in Rome, 2 thirds are Italian nobility in cahoots with English nobility, read james George McGuire to get the full picture, you bigoted nutter.
2up2u 2 years ago
Stop sending your biased irish history videos gaelicpiper, they briefly mention 1641, but revel in Oliver Cromwell, this is the history of bigots. Does he mention the vile and corrupt Roman church as they sent rescript after rescript to every movement in ireland that wanted freedom (including Orangemen). It was the Ulster Scot that left for America due to politcal and religious persecution by the English government. Rome and the English nobility polarised both sides through religion.
2up2u 2 years ago
Very good, simple and straight foward i agree
kg02170 2 years ago
Under all 'their Catholic Majesties,' from Henry II to Henry VIII (nearly 400 years), the Native Irish people, with the exception of five familes, were outlaws. They were murdered at will, like dogs, by their English Catholic neighbours in Ireland, and there was no law to punish the murderers. - Ireland as She is pp18 to 27.
So having read that. I will ask you again provo bigot. Are you descended from the English Catholics placed by the Pope or are you from the Native Irish Catholic?
2up2u 2 years ago
Anglo-Norman Lords came to Ireland in 1169 with French,Flemish & Welsh soldiers not the the 11th century you Comprehensive School wannabe.If you fancy a chat about DNA check out D.Bradley & E.Hills' DNA map of Ireland which shows that we are primarily descended from neolihic man with the only major change to our genetic makeup being the influx of Celts 4,500 to 2,000 years ago.Are you going to get round to getting educated or just spend your time bombing kids in impoverished countries mongrel?
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
Well done, French, (Normans) Flemish, Angles, Saxons, Danes, all from England, sent by the Pope were settled into Ireland under Roman Catholicism. It must pain and disturb you to realise that the reason for your troubles is down to your backward religion. The Religion of Rome that kept the Irish in the dark ages. The Reformation and the Enlightenment has given you the stadnard of living you enjoy now. The English built Dublin. How ungrateful, bitter and bigoted you are.
2up2u 2 years ago
Pope Adrian posssibly,probably not,gave permission for Anglo-Norman Lords to 'restore order'to the church so that gives the Limey mongrels permission to run amok here for years!?Get a grip child,you do not even know the difference between invading a place & colonisising a place but what can we expect from someone who does not even know what CENTURY Ireland was invaded in you.Dublin was founded by Vikings who were then driven out by us natives whilst we built this country.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
Ha ha ha. Restore order to the church? The Celtic church was a distinct and separate entity to the church of Rome you inbred bigoted deluded murdering reptile. Why was there so many synods and the Vatican invaded ireland to tax the pagan/christian Irish Celts? You need to read up on the real origins of christianity to grasp the underlying fundamental issues regarding the subjugation of Ireland. Oh 'Pope Adrian, possibly, probably not' make up your mind bigot. Hard to take the truth eh!
2up2u 2 years ago
There is proof for & against a Laudibiliter pleb but unlike you I do not read things then only rememember what suits your warped mind-No homogeneous unified Celtic Church ever existed & 'restoring order'was the excuse your English masters thought of to go raping & pillaging here.You will have to tell us all when this Papal Army arrived in Ireland slave boy & why all those foreign soldiers that got run out of Dublin had Brit accents?What Pope Adrian done is an aside,you spongers came here.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
I am surprised that you have the time to come on here at all you pish-smelling Plastic Brit.Aren't you self-deluded Imperialists spending all your time these days killing all those kids & old women/robbing more national assets in the Middle East again.Now let me think,whose backyard are yous wrecking this week?Egypt?No.Aden?No.Cyprus?No.Palestine?No.-They were last week weren't they?It is easy to lose track of where it is exactly that you parasites have shown up again.Some things never change.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
To the typical Provo a sad example of the ignorant bigoted warped and half-filled truth he gets from the Catholic clergy and a sectarian school education system. The Vatican is the root cause of the bigotry and trouble in Ireland. The planters were put there by the Crown as it was CROWN land, given by the Pope. The Vatican's determination to keep Ireland Catholic after the reformation and the genocide of 1641 is where the 'troubles' took route as sectarianismt. NO SURRENDER to the IRA scum scum
2up2u 2 years ago
FOR ALL YOU BITTER AND TWISTED PROVOS. READ THE BOOK: IRELAND AND THE POPE - A BRIEF HISTORY OF PAPAL INTRIGUES AGAINST IRISH LIBERTY BY JAMES GEORGE MAGUIRE.
Here is a profound statement from the book: 'the subjugation of Ireland to English rule, as is well known to students of Irish history, was NOT accomplished by the force of English arms, but by the decree and grant of pope Adrian IV, supplemented and enforced by decrees and orders of Pope Alexander III.
'If ye only knew yer history '
2up2u 2 years ago
Your sum knowledge of history is wikipedia-you are not fooling folk wannabe & if you had read that piece properly you would have seen the quote from Pope John in 1311.England invaded Ireland & only left when yous got a good beating by the natives.You can bend your 'facts'to justify your own mental state & bigotry but you will kid no one apart from your BNP pals.Unlike yourselves we never experienced,'The Dark Ages'you clueless pleb & you need to stop quoting from books you have not read pleb
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
I dont get history from Wikepdedia, nor am I a member of BNP. You are evidence of the REAL problem with Ireland, a product of mis-information and half-truths. You are so bitter and bigoted you dont even want an integrated education system, not like me who is 100% in favour for kids to go to school together. You have the mindset of the Irishman who was brainwashed by the Roman religion to murder and destroy the Protestants placed in Ireland through the crown, victims of religion and politics.
2up2u 2 years ago
There will never ever be integrated education here-we do not want it.Yous tried before,unsuccessfully, to stop native Irish having the education system of our choice.Unlike bigoted you I have zero interest in anyone's religion but am aware that Irish folk still have to stand up to Brit aggression & Imperialism like so many tothers acroo the globe had to do also.You are a typical self-deluded Brit hypocrite with your victim mentality always blaming other folk no matter how many fights yous have.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
And the last time I saw a Union Jack round here the locals were burning it.Seems to happen alot in Ireland doesn't it?In fact your rag of a Butcher's Apron seems to have been burnt & used for toilet paper by a variety of nationalities around the place,Not very popular are yous?Wonder why? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha .............................
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
Oh dear, burning the red saltire of ireland. It is only through the EU that the Republic of Ireland got its prosperity, mainly by the funds coming from the UK citizen. So thank me for raising your backward standard of living. You are now voting against the EU becasue you realise that you are not an independent nation, even after all the bombing and killing you have done. You are all a shower of deluded, ignorant, murdering bigoted arseholes.
2up2u 2 years ago
You are an imbecile & living proof of why your country is in decay.If you knew anything you would have shut your mouth regarding anyone's standard of living.Irish per capita income has been markedly superior to that over the U.K's for numerous years irrespective of any EU grants.All you baby-killing scroungers ever done here was run the place into the ground & steal anything yous could get your hands on.We owe you asmjuch as every other ex-colony,absolutely nothing apart from contempt.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
And before I forget... "waged the worst genocide ever in Europe".......is that another one of your 'facts' fool?Forget about Stalin,Hitler,Franco,Cromwell & The French Revolution did you?LOL...you really know your history don't you wee man?Typical stupid uneducated working class Brit aren't you?You wouldn't know a fact if it hit you in the face...just stick to reading The Sun & chatting your to your knuckledragging pals down the pub.You fuckers invaded here,no one else you imbecile-grow up.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
Your recent comments will give an insight into the mindset of a Romanist Irish Provo, again not taking historical facts into the irish problem, the Provo wants genocide, to rid Ireland of the ulster Scot/Protestant. Unfortunately for you I do know my history and all my comments are facts. The fact is, the church of Rome is at the root of the problem. For your information, Adolf Hitler was a Roman Catholic. Again Rome is at the bottom of the dirt. I'll repeat the Irish flag is in the Union Jack
2up2u 2 years ago
Absolutely,an unapologetic proud supporter of militant Irish Republicanism & the international fight against Brit aggression.Our flag is the glorious Green,White & Orange that proudly flies over our Dail & was first popularised when the might of your Empire was taken on & driven into the Irish sea at the end of the barrel of a gun.Your decaying country invaded this place & no amount of your shit will change that.'worst genocide ever in Europe'...LOL.Aye you sure are full of facts child!LOL
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
If you want revenge go and blow up the Vatican, that's where your trouble started.
2up2u 2 years ago
Revenge?Vatican?We have tried many times to blow-up where the trouble started,England LOL.You cannot rewrite history child & no amount of trying to rewrite history will ever prove that any Laudibiliter ever existed.More to the point,we do not want yous,never wanted yous & drove yous out of this country at the end of a barrel of a gun like umpteen other nationalities did once we showed them how it was done.We are here,always have been & always will be just like our religion & culture.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
Since when was any colonial fight against British parasites about religion?Taking the fight to Limey thieves & their pish-smelling wannabe-English Weegie s & plastic Brits in Belfast is zero to do with religion.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
With comments like that, no wonder there is bigotry in Northern Ireland. Many republicans come out with this comment, but when you point the troubles in Ireland as originating with the Roman Catholic church, suddenly the communist republicans come to the aid of the church of Rome. Of course it is about religion, that is the root of the problem. I gather then you will be in favour of having integrated schools, then we can rid religion out of the equation. Or is it genocide you want.
2up2u 2 years ago
You lying toad.The Troubles arose when Brits started killing natives yet again & indigenous Ulstermen demanded full rights in their OUR country.Not being Communist I support folk's rights to have the education of their choice unlike bigots like you.I absolutely despise self-deluded hypocritical half-breed Brits,yous are a cancer on the face of our planet so it would do us all a favour if yous hurried-up & died- off quicker.Religious schools or not-yous will always be hateful cunts!!
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
I did not lie but told a historical fact. If you wanted peace you would agree with Barry McGuigan and push for integrated schools. The Scotti/Ulaid were the people from Ulster who crossed to Scotland and gave the name that is now Scotland. The transfer of people from Scotland to Ulster has been going for thousands of years. The problem was when the English Pope Adrian IV sold the Celtic Irish church to the Roman Catholic English Monarchy namely Henry II. Religion is the root of the problem.
2up2u 2 years ago
It was their country - Ireland was part of the United Kingdom. The Union Jack has the Irish flag contained in it (the Red Saltire). It was the Pope and the Vatican that gave Ireland to the English Roman Catholic Monarchs, therefore Ireland from that point was crown land. After the reformation, the Vatican in desperation not to lose Catholic Ireland to Protestant England, waged the worst genocide ever in Europe, by murdering protestant planters. Only Religion and Rome is to blame, nobody else.
2up2u 2 years ago
Catholic Church to blame for Limeys invading OUR country hundreds of years before pope Adrian's forged document?Typical Brit logic!Ireland has always belonged to natives & it is a shame that more Brit colonists did not get their comeuppance-it was the right thing to do & saved the lives & property of many natives.Across the world Brits have always had to die when locals have fought for freedom & peace-long may it continue.You cannot rewrite history,yous are mongrel thieves & terrorist criminals.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
You are just angry that Irish folk have always had the bottle to stand up to maladjusted warmongerering Brit bigots like you.70% of your Plantes were limeys & the rest were Lowland Scots so do not give us your Scotti shit you know-nothing.We indigenous Ulstermen have never been able to stand the site of your half-breed mongrel Blow-ins & no matter how self-deluded you are we Irish will always have the same opinion of yous as every other unfortunate people that have met your scum.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
It is you who is angry. I point out facts and truth, but such is your level of bigotry you can't take truth. Are you an 'old English' Roman Catholic irishman, or a native Irish Man? Many republicans are actually Anglo Saxons that came from England, due to an English pope's plans to invade Ireland with the aid of an English Roman Catholic Monarchy. As I said before. Ireland's troubles are due to the church of Rome in particular and religion in general. Sinead O'Connor hit the nail on the head.
2up2u 2 years ago
Republicans are WASPs!?LOL.A few Normans came here 1,000 & that makes us as a pile of mongrels like you mob-get a grip you storyteller & get reading .You are an example why half the globe have wanted you self-deluded fools dead & away from about them.Most of you Clowns went home when yous got sent packing from the 26 Counties with your tails between your legs & will do the same in The North soon enough then there will be no more Brit cancers in our country with your made-up history & tall tales
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
I've been out all day trying to find all the Saxons round here but to no avail.I did find a book though that reminds us who killed most of the inhabitants of Wexford & Drogheda.Let me think now...it was you mob!Thank God we taught yous a wee lesson at that bridge near Portadown or there might have been more of yous around to pilfer from & hassle the locals.Same book also mentions all the other places that yous ended up making a mess of & then the locals having to kill yous to get a bit of peace.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
Try looking in your library instead you ignorant lowlife Provo murdering scum bag. There was an invasion of English in the 11th century, due to the Pope and his quest for money 'Peter's pence', that is why Ireland has many Anglo Saxon English ancestors. I'll ask you again, are you maybe one of them. Get your DNA checked, you brainwashed bigot.
2up2u 2 years ago
English invaded Ireland in the 11th century?LOL.Saxons were too busy slopping out pig-pens for their Norman masters to be invading anyone.Face it wee man,you are just a BNP fuckwit but deep down you just want folk to be as big a half-breed as you bunch of has-beens.The largest practised religions in YOUR country is Catholic & Muslim-it's hilarious.Yous are run by immigrants,ethnics,English homos,Brussels & The Yanks-sure you couldn't make it up!Unlike you my DNA is fine mongrel boy.Ha ha ha.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
You are an absolute lying toad & you cannot even get basic facts like what a red saltire is so who exaclty do you think that anyone apart from yourself is going to do anything other than laugh at the shit that you come out with? Away to Afghanistan & die you daft eejit.
gaelicpiper 2 years ago
He's completely right!
ERPBLIverpool 2 years ago
Well done Barry McGuigan, you say it as it is!!
Close down the Catholic apartheid schools Now!!
What decent human being has a problem with kids of different religions going to the same schools?? I,ll tell you, BIGOTS.
ilovepinkflag 2 years ago 5
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harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
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harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
Fuck u, whats ur obsessing with the IRA u waster Loyalists are still murdering innocent Catholics outside their homes and ur bleating on about the IRA, is it cause they are STILL UNDEFEATED love the Pic of u in ur BG BTW LOL???!
phoenix1916 2 years ago
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harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
I have a problem with british running Unionists murder squads that murdered women and Children, also Brit soldiers who kill children with plastic and lead bullets???
phoenix1916 2 years ago
Oh Dear ! It is a well known fact that,while travelling to Damascus, Saint Paul fell off his horse and suffered brain damage which subsequently led to his conversion to Christianity. I fear that Harry is suffering from the effects of physical trauma to the brain. I suspect damage to the temporary, sorry temporal lobe.
tubepsychiatrist 2 years ago
lol
join me and lets fight for less bigotry and if YOU can do it then anyone can................. who are YOU?
Only YOU can answer that.............. dont be like the lost bhoys !!!!
Is hatred and bigotry THAT important ..... it isn't for me !!!
I love the Rangers but I'm not a bigot - there is a difference, you know.
harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
well harry are you gonna unblock me as I have done so for you? or are you not a man of your word?
and there's no problem supporting Rangers, that doesnt make you a bigot, but when you start calling Irish and Scots/Irish ''tarrier scum'' etc and all your other insults that's what makes you a bigot and you were up until very recently, easily one of the biggest bigots on YT, so are you taking back everything you've said about Catholics etc?
ste43 2 years ago
harry,
I am a natural born cynic, but I am prepared to give you the benefit of doubt and congatulate you on the new position you have taken.
freethequeen 2 years ago
Who in the fuck is AkaviriDagger? Is that another one person of many identities? You should call yourself Mr Ben.
2up2u 2 years ago
And just who the fuck are you? Are you insinuating that just because you and I have never spoken that my account is less valid? I've had this account much longer than you've had yours mate, so please, pretty please, with sugar on top, don't talk such nonsense! :)
If you post a vid and then enable comments to be made, people are going to comment, aren't they? I found your vid through looking at the recent activity of a few users whose pages I visit on occasion. Is that ok?
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
My sincere apologies Dagger, when I saw you speaking to Harry I assumed you were datten or jaggedthistle or even freethequeen, who are suspected of being one person. Welcome to the debate. If you are anti-religious and anti-pope going by your channel, then you must see the sense in abolishing sectarian faith based schools, what is your view point on this.
2up2u 2 years ago
Apology accepted 2up, and permit me to apologise to you if my last message was a bit narky, I didn't mean it to look that way. :)
I wouldn't neccessarily say I'm anti-religious, although I don't practice a faith personally, but no matter how devout any person's faith is, no one knows what awaits us after death, if anything at all. I am an agnostic theist. As long as people don't try to ram their beliefs down others throats, I have no problem with any religion.
With regards to bigotry.....
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
....I went to Catholic primary and high school, but some of my best friends who I'm still close to today went to non-denominational schools, and many of them are Rangers fans.
I think the main cause of bigotry is intolerance and a lack of respect for others. This may sound a bit twee, but I think if children were raised to be proud of their own roots, culture, faith etc but to also be respectful, friendly & open-minded towards others with different backgrounds, we'd all be much happier.
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
I have many catholic friends too, but being segragated would have given me the opportunity to have even more and, also less enemies due to the divide. Do you agree that integrated schools would help in any way the bigotry problem? please answer yes or no, unless you are a politician.
2up2u 2 years ago
Not knowing who this question was directed at 2up I will be presumptuous and respond in the affirmative! I assume you meant integrated.
dattenborough180880 2 years ago
Hello Datten, yes I meant integrated, but the question was to dagger.
2up2u 2 years ago
My apologies 2up, but my reply was honest.
dattenborough180880 2 years ago
Many apologies for not replying sooner, 2up.
To answer your question, on one hand yes, I would like to see the Catholic Church in Scotland lose its grip on education. I dont like the way the Catholic Church always seems to try to bully and cajole its flock through guilt rather than reason. And as Ive said on other vids, some Catholic doctrine is absolutely ludicrous, for example their stance on contraception.
Having said that, I was educated in Catholic schools and while the issue of...
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
Thanks for your reply dagger. You are correct, it is time to stop all the marches that create truimphalism within communities. My stance is to take away all religion that entangles with State. Religion should be kept prvately to the individual. I'm against Orange and Green Parades. To be an Orangeman you need to pledge a belief in jesus Christ. And you know going by my other video that I firmly believe Jesus never existed, he is another solar myth.
2up2u 2 years ago
I believe that you have previously stated that the monarchy and church needs to be separated: ie disestablishment of the Churches of England, Scotland and NI. This would go a long way to eradicating the political/cultural element of sectarianism.
dattenborough180880 2 years ago
I would be all for that, no question. Lets remove all that kind of garbage, lets remove all types of clergy from politics.
2up2u 2 years ago
2up, agree completly, remove the clergy from politics AND education.
freethequeen 2 years ago
Thanks 2up, no worries. I agree with you entirely that a person's faith should be a private matter.
Any religion needs priests, monks, imams, rabbis etc to offer spiritual and emotional guidance to his or her congregation, but when it gets to the stage where religious leaders interfere in politics the way Christian and Muslim religious leaders for example do in certain countries then it makes you wonder whether these people are truly pious or just desperate for power.
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
The " supreme leader " in Iran is an excellent example I work with two wonderful Iranian women, both devout muslims, but absolutely opposed to the regime in Iran. Out of courtesey: I'm Frank Bough!
dattenborough180880 2 years ago
Hahaha! The corset and sussies-wearing Frank Bough!? Guess what? I'm Max Mosley! It's a small world! :)
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
No! no,This is Locarno speak. I.m off ! Just thought I'd clear that one up!
dattenborough180880 2 years ago
....faith was always there, in primary school especially, with the exception of when I went through my Conformation and First Communion I never felt like religion was being force-fed to me, and it was certainly never said or implied that making friends with protestants was anathema to the Catholic Church or community.
So it is far too one-sided to say that abolishing separate Catholic schools would end bigotry in Scotland. That is akin to saying that bigotry is the fault of Catholics alone...
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
...which of course is not the case. There are other institutions that exacerbate the problem, primarily the Orange Lodge.
I think the belligerent nature of many Orangemen with regards to not just their religious beliefs but also regarding their marches is an enormous factor in the sectarian nature of Scotland.
If separate Catholic schools were abolished and their pupils amalgamated into non-denominational schools, then I would ideally like to see the Orange Lodge dissolved in Scotland...
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
...at the same time, but at the very least I would expect all Orange marches to be banned immediately. This would go some way to ensure that there was no triumphalism on either side.
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
My experiences mirror your own Dagger. One of the problems is that religion and cultural identity are confused in the West Of Scotland. Throw into the mix the NI shite and you've got a mess. Discrimination against the Irish predates the 1918 education act. Racism is the cause of bigotry, not catholic schools.
dattenborough180880 2 years ago
I think it's ok if your religion forms a big part of your cultural identity Datten, as long as it doesn't make you distrustful of or discriminate against other religions or cultures.
It all comes down to what values our parents instil in us, mate. My father's Protestant and my mother's Catholic, although neither is particularly devout. Neither of them were overly concerned about my faith, their priority was making sure I was a decent(ish! haha!) human being who had respect for other people.
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
I agree Dagger. I think that we must always remember that it is a minority of bigots who have a disproportionate effect on society. Your comments with regard to the Orange Lodge are spot on.
dattenborough180880 2 years ago
Thanks Datten, I'm glad that you agree. You're right mate, there's a proportionally small number of total arseholes on both sides but most of us are good guys. The bad just sells more newspapers than the good so it gets more attention, that's what I sometimes think anyway.
As I've said before, when push comes to shove, forget Catholic/Protestant or Celtic/Rangers, we're all Scots, and more importantly, we're all human. :)
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
Well said Akaviri. The media have a tendency to explode out of all proportion the minorities on both sides to sell papers. I would say the media have a big hand in flaming the fans of bigotry in Scotland. They have to be held responsible.
2up2u 2 years ago
You're right 2up, some elements of the media here are total shit-stirrers and they should be accountable, but they never seem to be taken to task over the inflammatory rhetoric they produce.
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
ok, Datten, come on, join me in this exercise.
I want to see if the 'usual suspects' among us have the will to change our percptions of the bigotry and hatred that is obvious between us.
If there is any group of people more divided than us who disrespect each other more then I'd like to know who they are.
Is it possible for people to bridge the sectarian divide even if its only on YT? If WE can do it then I suspect anyone can but I think it will take a helluva effort. can it be done?
harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
Harry, I've never insulted your religion (although I admit I've insulted everything else about you!), so if there is bigotry between us, then it's purely on your part. I don't hate you either, I merely think you're a complete arsehole.
I've not been a Catholic for donkey's years, so I could not give less of a fuck for the pope or any other megalomaniac religious leader who tries to interfere with politics and every other aspect of people's lives.
Each to their own, live and let live I say.
AkaviriDagger 2 years ago
Dagger,
I've offered an olive branch of friendship and while I expect this to come as a surprise to YOU I believe that if this particular group of combatants can overcome our prejudices and sectarian bile - then almost anyone can.
I know some shall be proven to be out and out bigots and for them there no help but only time will tell which of us are the REAL BIGOTS.... I now its not me !!!
What about YOU, Dagger?................. soon, we shall see
harrythehorse12345 2 years ago
I left a more concilliatory message than the one below to you on another vid, Harry. Time will tell indeed, whether you are genuinely trying to build bridges or whether this is just some ruse on your part, which is what I suspect, although I'm trying not to be cynical.
But fuck it, let's see where this goes.