most engines can and are designed to handle water since it is a byproduct of gasoline combustion. This is an interesting idea for a fuel that can be easily produced.
@spagettiosaddict: Only if the water has been electrically ionized through the polarization process, will the water is useful in a motor, if you don't do anything to water then yes it won't burn. The hydrogen within it will if you extract it with electricity. This technology has been around hundreds of years, why you don't implement this to good use is what blows my mind. Why wouldn't you want to know more about this? Free fuel, energy... you are the ignorant one, get in your place fool.
@Texmurphy51 Well yes you do use electricity to extract the hydrogen from water, but the quantity that comes out vs the input amps (.5) using a gated pulse train yields 1800 times of energy drawn to get it. (hence free)
@krgrubbs They why cant it run by itself? Why cant you just hook a generator to the motor, make the hydrogen, run the motor with NO external input.
Do you live off the power grid by generating your own free power using this method?
If what you say was true than all of these people with these devices pay no electricity bill. Matter of fact they should be able to generate excess & charge the power company. Funny how they want investors when they could get free money by selling power.
@Texmurphy51 I like your way of thinking, and yes it is possible to receive checks from the power company if you are creating more energy than your home uses. It's been done before, and yes more people should use this technology. I don't yet, but plan to implement water fuel technology in the near future.
Why would anyone developing this NEED money for their invention when they could get it by selling power?
I worked with a patent attourney at one time & I can tell you that if ANYONE had proof that this invention worked they would have more Venture Capital than you could imagine. You would have to fight investors off with a stick.
This lawmower demo is an example, why didnt he hook up a generator to produce the HHO & run it for a few hrs?
@Texmurphy51 Well if you study history, many people have created HHO on demand generators on AC current and also in cars, welders, jet engines, water heaters, etc. etc. but they always end up mysteriously poisoned or something else by either USA government, or hired by oil industry. crazy thing is there have been patents on these designs, but they still end up dead. Latest one was the best, Stan Meyer. check out his water fuel cell, and his latest is the water fuel injector, replaces cell.
@krgrubbs "but they always end up mysteriously poisoned "
Give me a list, name the people you are talking about, (besides Meyer). If this was true then why are there so many videos on the subject?
There are patents on may inventions that end up dead(most patents), mostly because they dont work.
Why would countries like China ban this technology when the Gov owns everything? They have no EVIL RICH Oil to stop use of HHO. This men in black is BS. Myers died of a cerebral aneurysm
@Texmurphy51 Well yes there are tons of crapventions but sporatic few like Meyer and Tesla's free wireless electricity, couldn't be understood. They are ahead of their time. It's easy to "claim witchcraft" or "terrorist" or any label rather than take the time to understand the full concept of How. There are tons of videos of HHO b/c common people are catching on and they can't stop freedom no matter how hard they try. I won't go into extent of list of names, it's out there...
@Texmurphy51 ..and also think of Meyer's death, his aneurysm was the effect, the cause was the poison. It was his last words to his brother. But that's irrelevant whether he was poisoned or not, I truely believe in his work. There are a lot of crap in the market too, people trying to sell hybrid HHO conversion kits to "save" gas money, but the real invention doesn't need any fossil fuels to aid in burning.
@Texmurphy51 Actually many poisons can cause aneurysms, examples: lead, mercury, but not my point. Yes i have personally witnessed with my own eyes each indivudual component of stan's dune buggy. I also happen to have copies of his documents in pdf format, and also his first invention has been replicated by a few people. I can't believe you are either having such a hard time comprehending this concept of simple hydrogen, or are you seriously "pro-fossil fuels". Don't hurt your image any more
@krgrubbs I dont dispute that an engine can run on Hydrogen. What I dispute is that the engine can generate electricity, crack water and run on that hydrogen/oxygen with NO EXTERNAL FUEL.
Engines have run on hydrogen since the 1809 but NON have created their own fuel.
Why start with a huge car engine.
Just do this with a small lawnmower engine. If you can get this working you will be a Billionare.
No one will poison you dispite the stories.
My father died of an aneurism & nobody poisoned him.
@krgrubbs So if anyone feels free enough to use HHO gas from water, it can be done and has been done. We must all use this technology and share it, no patents, no profits. Just pure energy on the down low. Like weed, it's illegal but you can't control it no matter how hard you try, its a gift from God and we shall embrace it.
First off very nice project, second check out Craig westbrook's findings- he got the chance to sit on Stan meyers buggy,and has a great torch set up! Also a good person to talk shop over the phone.
did you now dc engines when turnd by hand ore by draging ore by wind they make curent all of them do start thinking about runing your cell on dc motor my favorit is a razor scootor motor . combined energeys look in to wind soaler meathane and steam any way you create motion you canb draw energey think big water wind fire hamster ?
People scam lots of things dude, but this isn't one of them. Anyone with an IQ above 50 can build a water electrolysis system. If you wanna flame scammers, write a letter to the white house, Obama is the biggest scammer of them all...
wildbill, you do have me with obama being the biggest scammer of all.
I also agree with you that people with an average IQ if 50 believes somehow that hho is some sort of solution and not a scam. Those with an IQ above 100 is scamming those that are trying to build hho generators.
What? HHO gnerators are easy to make its not a scam. all you need is a bucket of water and an electrical source like a car battery with two electrodes going into the bucket. but a container over a each electrode and one captures oxygen and the other captures hydrogen, not a scam, simple science. easyer to obtain than gasoline and much cleaner.
ok true i didnt want to mention that, but using hydrogen is much cooler, and as you can see from the video the guy didnt have to do too much to convert the lawnmower into someting that uses hydrogen. Instead if he converted it to use a battery it would probably have been alot more work.i know it is technicaly less efficent than just using a battery cause of losses through heat and other stuff when using electrical energy to do hydrolysis to make hydrogen. whats cooler explosions or electricity?
Actually, looking closer this is a gasoline mower, and they hooked up an hho generator to it. $100 it's running off gas and $1000 if the gas runs out it couldn't run a second on the hho produced.
@madnesscombat5 lol it's badass, but primitive. Overcomplicated. However, don't get me wrong!: I greatly advocate the safe use and production of hydrogen.
@lyrison yeah i know that, but i was talking about electric motors, electric motors get their power from electricity, but combustion engines get it from explosions :D
@wildbill6976 obama is not a scammer, the republicans are scammers they support the big oil companies and dont want to raise taxes, they voted off the jobs bill THOSE ARE SCAMMERS
last time I checked at Sears, they didn't have an HHO lawnmower at any cost!!!!!
I told them I saw one on the internet but they just laughed at me!!!! I then let them in on the joke and showed them this video and comments and they laughed their asses off!!!
MOHAMADBABBY must work for Big Oil Co....U afraid of change!!No one likes change >>But if u put a small amount-- say pint of HHO up your ??Light it you will feel the power!!
Yes, I make millions of dollars a year by writing on youtube... bwahahhahahha
Now back to reality.
The energy from the gas hho is the same as the electricity energy put into it. Do you put a pint of hho up your aZZ for thrills?
I'm sure you have figured out perpetual motion and will become the next billionaire. When you do, be sure to remember how you laughed at me. If and when you don't, remember how I laughed my ass off at you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No pollution? What do you put into the water cell to promote electrolysis? Is it salt or baking soda? Do you drink it or wash it down the driveway? Kind of takes away that '100 percent no pollution', doesn't it? What do you use for the electrolysis? Electricity? Where does that come from? Coal? Not 100% no pollution there. I'm trying to figure out how you can produce hho without causing some pollution.
well really anything can be consiterd pollution. in a derset invironment, too much water could kill off the flora and fauna and could therefore be consiterd polution. since hydrogen oxygen combustion reactions result in the release of heat and water which are not consitered dangerous poulltants it is a good soluion to this "global warmaing" stuff.
What a great invention. This thing ran for about 2 seconds. bwahahhhahaa
Have you sold this to John Deere? Of couse, you would have to have an extention cord plugged into an outlet. But then again, electric mowers have been invented and don't need the added cost of electroysis.
exactly my thoughts... Buy an electric lawnmower. These people using 10HP of Electric to run a 5HP Engine at 50%, NUMPTYS, this is not a conspiracy by the "feds" this is SCIENCE. ENERGY CANNOT BE CREATED OR DESTROYED.
A solar cell (a big one albeit), or wind turbine, etc... can be used to generate the necessary HHO gas, which is then compressed and fed into the lawnmower.
But there is one problem with this. 2 stroke engines NEED OIL They love their oil so much it has to be mixed with their gasoline. If there is no oil present in the fuel the engine will practical power itself to destruction. But, who doesnt like to see an engine cease up?
Sure, use solar of wind to generate hho (there are losses in those systems so some of the energy is lost) then have an expensive cell to hold the hho until it can be used.
A smarter way would be use the solar cells or wind to charge a battery and use a battery powered lawnmower, or better yet use muscle power and a push mower. That's the plan of the future.
Wow, 5 dollars saves you 40%? I so don't believe you. What did you spend the $5 on? 2 cables from your battery into a bottle of water? You mean we could save 40% of the gas used in America by making some simple-ass hho tank? What happens when your valves are so plugged with carbon they won't seal? Or when the piston walls rust from the boiled off water gets into them? When the cylinders warp because of the added heat of leaning out the fuel mixture?
i spent the 5 dollars on the stainless electropoles,the bubbler stops water fr getting to the intake , theirs zero build up ,hydrogen doesnt creat carbon it creates breathable air and cleanes your engine ass you drive looking longterm its a 93 intrepid wit 200 000 kms on it bin doin it for a while and it keeps getting better so w-e your loss
I have yet to see anyone document any gain in hho. In fact, no one has ever proven an increase in MPG using hho. I sure see a lot of claims, but then again there are 'miracle magnets' that increase mpg, and 'pills and liquids' to put in the tank that claim to increase mpg, all fakes and frauds to steal money from weak minded individuals. There's nothing to stop you from throwing your money away, but if you try to convince others to buy it I'm here to say it's all a scam.
davison, I can't really make out what you are trying to say. If it's the governments are pushing hydrogen cell vehicles that's a world different from the hho scam.
hey ive argued you b4 mohhammed you clearly like to argue hho and hydrogen are the same thing made the same way on demand so go argue somewhere you actually know what your about
davison, you don't know the difference between 'hydrogen cell' and 'hho'. The theory is the same - the hydrogen for the cell is made by using excess power off peak from generators. The car and engine are designed for the hydrogen cell.
The HHO hoax is taking a gasoline engine and using electrolysis from the running car's battery to produce hydrogen and oxygen to feed back into the gasoline running car.
You are comparing apples and watermelons. Nothing in common other than a vehicle.
i use a second alternater to power it and i also use baking soda and spring water no electroshit
and it cost less so if you dony beleive me try it or stfu and keep paying the extra 5 -7 bucks a week in gas oh i drive only 20 km a day so thats why its so low
So where do you think the energy from the 2nd alternator comes from? Could it be..... the engine? Where does that energy come from? Could it be.. the gasoline?
Did you lean out the air/fuel mix? That might be where you are getting some savings but no one has ever documented hho working. No one. Your claims are not documentation. If you get actual documentation of mileage increase FROM THE HHO then I might be swayed, but like I said, no one has ever documented savings.
ok so su now the engine runs off gas but if you can shut the gas pump off and run only on hydrogen then what what are you talking about im subscribed to three people who proved it on youtube only type waterpowered van watch the series the second alternater doesnt need extra pawer to turn well maybe a milihorse lol
There is a mountain of evidence that HHO does boost the gas mileage. I have documented it myself, and that's all I need to prove it to. If you don't want to save money, that's your business. As for me I save $100 bucks a month on gas by using HHO.
So you save $100 per month on gas? What do you spend, $10,000 a month on gas? Why is it when Dateline NBC had their car modified to use HHO they either didn't get any gas savings or it actually used more gas? Would you put your car under test or are you one of those that say 'just believe me because I said it'?
They reported that there was no change. Then they reported there was a 2% increase when they turned if off. Hello. They probably turned it on.
They lied saying there was no change. They had an agenda, and when they got the surprising results that it worked they lied about it. You can see the lie when you watch it again.
Both the PM guy and the Dyno Guy look up and to the left when they lie. That is a tell tale sign, ask any police detective.
Further NBC is owned by General Electric, and GE is in the oil business. They are using their show as a PR arm to try to discount the biggest enemy to oil profits imaginable. If everyone in america had an HHO device in their car the oil companies would lose billions.
Your concluding that GE is in the oil business makes you a genius, along with putting 2 electrodes into a bottle you are a super genius. why don't you open up your own car company and sell them, no gas needed?????
they were working with licensed mechanics, who know the difference between turning it on and turning it off. Maybe you are turning it off and getting better mileage and turning it on and getting worse?
How is it you are getting better mileage? Do you lean out the gas/air mixture? How do you confuse the computer and it's sensors? I could block gas flow and get better mileage, it's not rocket science but the gas engines are made for specific gas and not hho.
No I don't lean out the gas mixture. I get the benefits without all that. My van is a 1991. It doesn't have the computer sensors that cars made after 1996 have that attempt to remove the benefit (by design?) from HHO.
you only have to lean out the mixture on newer cars, because the O2 sensors wrongly interpret the higher oxygen as the combustion is too lean. Therefore the computer tries to compensate by dumping more gas into the mix. The efie enhancer leans out the mix in an attempt to fix this problem.
On carburated cars and cars with ECG before 1996 don't need to have an efie or map sensor enhancer for it to work.
So how does one adjust newer cars computer? Wouldn't this void a warrenty? I'd be real concerned putting this on a new vehicle. Also, who's insuring your selling these units to put on cars in case of a fire or death?
So does my battery/inverter to run the battery charger to charge the battery perpetual motion machine works also. It needs to be plugged into the wall outlet JUST LIKE the car converting hho needs a constant inflow of gas to work.
Funny how perpetual motion machines work if they are fed by an external power source.
Ok if HHO works, how many HHO generators would it take to run a car independent of gasoline? If it's actually overunity, there is a breakaway point where it actually produces enough power to run itself and draw off enough power to run a car's transmission system. How big or how many hho generators would it take???????
First of all I don't believe in over unity, so forget that. Second to run a car on HHO without gasoline I assume you'd need about 40-50 LPM for a smaller 4 cylinder engine, and 60 for V6. This is purely speculation on my part. Although I did hear that someone did it. They ran a V8 from HHO produced off of home current.
I suppose the best way to calculate the necessary amounts of HHO is to start with solid numbers with smaller engines and scale it up.
So how did they store the hydrogen accumulated from home? It's very volitile and hard to store.
So what makes an engine run better with HHO? How does it run on less gas if the mixture stays the same? How does the insurance factor fit in? Are you protected and are you protecting the public in general with your product?
I didn't say they stored it. My understanding is he used a lot of power to produce it on demand.
I wouldn't say a internal combustion engine runs better on HHO, just that it is interesting that it will.
The reason it gives a boost in fuel economy is simply the fact that the HHO mixture burns the gasoline more completely. i.e. You can light charcoal with a match, but it burns much better when you put lighter fluid on it. HHO is like that, it makes the fuel burn better.
So a boost in fuel economy happens spontaniously without reducing the quantity of gas going through the engine? How does that happen? Maybe I should believe that a car runs mor effeciently in sunlight vs dark? That makes about as much sense.
The engine would run on hho alone, but the power required to seperate enough water would be bigger than the gas engine itself.
Have you seen some of these fuel injectors on cars these days? They squirt gas into the cylinder like a squirt gun. A stream of liquid. Do you know how hard it is to burn liquid gas? Gasoline burns best when vaporized. Why do you think cars have catalytic converters? If the gasoline burned efficiently there would be no need for the catalytic converter. No its not spontaneous fuel economy. if the gasoline burns more efficiently it will stretch the amount of gas needed.
fuel injectors are a different carburation system, the old style of carburator worked just fine. When the gas gets sucked into the combustion chamber it immediately vaporizes.
Catalytic converters are to filter out the additaves to the gas so it doesn't get exhausted into the atmosphere. Again, cars got along just fine before them.
How can gas get saved if the flow of gas doesn't choke down? Is it one of those miracle things?
WHAT!?!?!? whay the hell would they need to lie they just gave there findings, they are nutreal in the argument and never took a side they just wanted to see if it did anyting with nothing to loose!
I began selling these because I became convinced that they work through my own experience. Since then I did have had a customer with a late model car say it didn't work, that he actually had a decrease in fuel economy. We didn't use EFIE's so we believe his car's computer is the reason not the HHO. If car manufacturers are producing cars that fight the benefits that HHO produces, clearly the car manufacturers are at fault.
Only sellers of hho get increased gas mileage. I wonder why no one else can increase their MPG using HHO?
Clearly the car manufacturer's have ruled out any possible benefit's by adding HHO systems as they would be the first to slap them on production vehicles IF it added anything to the car.
That's not true, everyone else gets the increase too. Its only the late model cars that have computers that override the benefits that don't get it. If everyone used HHO in America we'd save billions of dollars in foreign oil.
So why didn't NBC get any increase, in fact, they got a decrease in MPG? The person installing the hho system didn't hesitate in putting it in place. Their documentation is open and available.
If it doesn't increase MPG how can we save billions of dollars?
Again, not true, they said they got no SIGNIFICANT difference. Then they said the didn't get any change. Then they said they got a small increase with the device off.
"Significant" is an arbitrary word which can be interpreted in eyes of the beholder. You see it as no increase, I see it as a small increase.
But never do they say it gets worse. Only the theorists say it gets worse, not the ones doing the test.
True, they didn't get any increase and actually got a decrease when they turned on the hho unit. That would make your statement of 'NO SINIFICANT' difference. I thought this hho was going to save billions of dollars? How can this happen if it takes an expensive water bottle with electrodes in it, a current limiter, a valve to prevent backfire, tweaking the computer to make it think it needs less gas and on and on... and then the thing decreases the MPG after all is said and done?
also they used a late model car, they knew would fight the results. I don't understand how you can be skeptical about something you have no empirical evidence to support your position. You argue your point based on faith. I have real world experience, and know from the evidence it works. How can you maintain a dogmatic position without any evidence other than claims made by others?
If that's your excuse, why didn't the mechanic tell (truthfully) to the NBC team that installing this unit on a 'late model car' wouldn't SIGNIFICANTALLY' increase the gas mileage? Is it because he's selling maybe $50 worth of crap for $1000 and a promise that never happens (or happened in this case?)
You are selling components for this, why would you say that it doesn't work? Especially when you have sold 'hundreds' of units? Where's your proof? In your fillups and simple calculations?
Soon, just like Meyer's breakthrough was always coming 'soon'. To placate the investors of course. Some took him back to court and got their money back, everyone else lost everything. If anyone offered me billions of dollars for an invention I'd be signing so fast and making my investors millionaires so fast it wouldn't be funny. What bullshit he was holding his 'invention' for humanity. He knew it didn't work. That's why he didn't let the car get investigated.
I don't think you can say that about Meyer, that he knew his invention didn't work. I think he believed in it. whether it really worked or not, it remains to be seen.
Of couse he knew it didn't work. Read how he showed his dune buggy to the press then REFUSED TO HAVE IT INSPECTED. Those inspecting it could not have figured out the 'magic frequency' he sold to investors. He knew it ran off gas and not purely hho. He was a scammer. Pure and simple.
By the way, is your circuit pure dc or is it a pulsed/modulated one like Meyer's? That was his claim to the 'overunity' promises.
And the products I sell on ebay work. You cannot be a scammer and sell products for years and expect to continue. Ebay's feedback program eliminates that possibility. I have 100% positive feedback. You can't be a scammer or a liar and have that. Its not possible. Yes my pulse width modulator is pulsed dc. I don't claim overunity with it. I do claim that my product works 100% or I'll fix it for free.
Meyer wouldn't have people inspect his buggy because he was afraid people would steal his ideas.
meyer was a scammer. Period. You are making excuses for his scamming. You are scamming people, too. From what I see you are producing a current limiter so the current doesn't run wild and blow the fuse. (That's my EE talking)
Well of course I'm getting an increase and that's why I sell these. I wouldn't sell them if they didn't work. I take issue with people that call me a scammer or a liar. You would too if someone called you a scammer or liar, and you knew the charge was a lie in itself.
The mechanic sold one to the NBC reporter that didn't work. He gave it to them claiming it worked and the hho didn't increase MPG and actually decreased MPG. What part of 'scammer' don't you understand?
You are a 'pathological liar' because you believe your own lies told as to HHO, lol.
Only if you believe what you say. If it's true (no hho claim has been substanciated to date). Maybe you will be the first, probably not. Have you put your machine on a dynometer to prove power output is increased with the hho gas produced?
Again, not true. HHO has been used around the world by thousands of people. Thousands have proved that it works. Only the die hard skeptics like yourself, who have never used it, claim it doesn't work. You guys really need to get a life and stop wasting peoples time. I don't know why you are so skeptical when this can benefit you and save you money too.
Last I checked there were no documented writings of the success of HHO. If there were 'thousands' of people' wouldn't there be thousands of papers on that HHO success? Or maybe hundreds? Or tens? Why not even one????
I just figured out who is supressing these thousands of people, it's BIG OIL!!!! They have successfully taken the successfull HHO people's documentation from the internet. Bad BIG OIL, you should be ashamed of yourself....
What's my problem? Just pointing out the scammers are trying to sell people hho with the promise of 'increased energy' that doesn't work. I got nothing against windmills and solar (they are expensive and I wouldn't pay that much for what little they put out but there is a 20 year breakeven point). There is no 'harm' if someone wants to try it but there is harm if money is scammed off people that want to believe it will work like promised.
In kansas there's 3 large arrays of wind turbines. they could power topeka, and most of the outter cities of KC., and because of budget cuts these windmills are free spinning. No power comes from them cause the lines can't handle thier output. glad you agree No harm no Foul.
paper, even Pickins in all his billionaire glory has backed down from a wind farm in Texas because no one will spend the money to build lines to him (for free, of course, while he makes tons of money). If you wish to purchase large wind turbins, contact T. Boone and I'm sure he will be happy to unload his unusable stock in a heartbeat.
kool but hydrogen bombs produce much more energy, skrew "clen energy" we have nuclear, if we can perfect fusion we have it made. then again geothermal is kinda cool.
NBC is owned by Big Oil. They are making false claims about HHO because it is a competitor to their product. Everyone can make HHO, its power to the people. Only the oil companies and their lackeys are against HHO.
I spoke to my insurance agent and she said that if an hho unit causes a car fire the insurance is void. By the way, do you have insurance on your units you are selling? What happens if it causes a car fire and someone is hurt or killed or they cause someone else to be hurt and killed and the cause comes back to a faulty hho unit installed on a vehicle? What protection do you give others and what do you have on yourself? Out of these hundreds of units on the road one will eventually fail.
The documentation is not flawed, I have demonstrated it to myself. I will be making a video showing my methodology and documented fuel use for the last year, and then have an on going comparison with HHO soon.
As far as insurance goes, in Hawaii as in many states we have no fault insurance. Which means that it doesn't matter who's fault it is, the insurance company pays.
I can't wait to read your documentation. That would be like claiming to use less water by injecting hho into my shower, the rate of water flow remains the same but somehow it's more effecient????
You are confusing 'no fault' laws. So if a drug company produces defective pills they are immune from lawsuits?
You are saying if an hho system backfires or melts and causes a car to catch on fire that the hho producer isn't at fault? Have you even talked to an insurance agent about liability?
I'm not advocating using products in an unsafe manner. I am saying that if used properly and according to manufacturers specifications HHO is safe. If a person hooks up a cell without a fuse and it catches fire, it is that persons fault, not the fault of the company if they specified you must use a fuse.
what happens if a fuse is hooked up and it still catches on fire? I guess only a good (hungry greedy) lawyer will eventually tell you what dollar amount that would cost you.
in that case isnt runing out of baking soda and spring water the same as running out of gas or electrical power? its all about what fuels you can get teh cheepst. insteaad of using hho to power a lawn mower, if your concerned about cost then just use a push mover. im shure the food that gives u energyh to push is cheeper than gas.
Build a bladder tank ,let hho build up pressure store it then use it,the only way off a 12 volt system.Need to have 2 blabbers of a least 2 gallons,a upper chamber and a lower the hho will rise to the top of the 2nd bladder will have almost pure gas, 0xygen will settle to the bottom .Try this with a ballon ,then try it without the bladders
How are you making your hydrogen? There are different ways. The one should have is slow burning hydrogen. I think the hydrogen here is saturated with oxygen.
THAT WILL CUT 3 INCHES OF LAWN. HOORAH!
gettingahandle 9 months ago
most engines can and are designed to handle water since it is a byproduct of gasoline combustion. This is an interesting idea for a fuel that can be easily produced.
robliotalon 9 months ago
H2O, not HH0
thomasjamesfoster96 10 months ago
@thomasjamesfoster96: HHO is the "brown gas" expelled from H2O using electrolysis. Please don't confuse the two.
krgrubbs 8 months ago
@krgrubbs ?? Um.. no
thomasjamesfoster96 8 months ago
Scheiße
MeinName01 11 months ago
Yea put water in your engine, thatll make it run better
spagettiosaddict 1 year ago
@spagettiosaddict: Only if the water has been electrically ionized through the polarization process, will the water is useful in a motor, if you don't do anything to water then yes it won't burn. The hydrogen within it will if you extract it with electricity. This technology has been around hundreds of years, why you don't implement this to good use is what blows my mind. Why wouldn't you want to know more about this? Free fuel, energy... you are the ignorant one, get in your place fool.
krgrubbs 8 months ago
@krgrubbs It it takes electricity to split water, where is the Free energy?
Texmurphy51 8 months ago
@Texmurphy51 Well yes you do use electricity to extract the hydrogen from water, but the quantity that comes out vs the input amps (.5) using a gated pulse train yields 1800 times of energy drawn to get it. (hence free)
krgrubbs 8 months ago
@krgrubbs They why cant it run by itself? Why cant you just hook a generator to the motor, make the hydrogen, run the motor with NO external input.
Do you live off the power grid by generating your own free power using this method?
If what you say was true than all of these people with these devices pay no electricity bill. Matter of fact they should be able to generate excess & charge the power company. Funny how they want investors when they could get free money by selling power.
Texmurphy51 8 months ago
@Texmurphy51 I like your way of thinking, and yes it is possible to receive checks from the power company if you are creating more energy than your home uses. It's been done before, and yes more people should use this technology. I don't yet, but plan to implement water fuel technology in the near future.
krgrubbs 8 months ago
@krgrubbs Its been done with HHO technology?
By Who???
Why would anyone developing this NEED money for their invention when they could get it by selling power?
I worked with a patent attourney at one time & I can tell you that if ANYONE had proof that this invention worked they would have more Venture Capital than you could imagine. You would have to fight investors off with a stick.
This lawmower demo is an example, why didnt he hook up a generator to produce the HHO & run it for a few hrs?
Texmurphy51 8 months ago
@Texmurphy51 Well if you study history, many people have created HHO on demand generators on AC current and also in cars, welders, jet engines, water heaters, etc. etc. but they always end up mysteriously poisoned or something else by either USA government, or hired by oil industry. crazy thing is there have been patents on these designs, but they still end up dead. Latest one was the best, Stan Meyer. check out his water fuel cell, and his latest is the water fuel injector, replaces cell.
krgrubbs 8 months ago
@krgrubbs "but they always end up mysteriously poisoned "
Give me a list, name the people you are talking about, (besides Meyer). If this was true then why are there so many videos on the subject?
There are patents on may inventions that end up dead(most patents), mostly because they dont work.
Why would countries like China ban this technology when the Gov owns everything? They have no EVIL RICH Oil to stop use of HHO. This men in black is BS. Myers died of a cerebral aneurysm
Texmurphy51 8 months ago
@Texmurphy51 Well yes there are tons of crapventions but sporatic few like Meyer and Tesla's free wireless electricity, couldn't be understood. They are ahead of their time. It's easy to "claim witchcraft" or "terrorist" or any label rather than take the time to understand the full concept of How. There are tons of videos of HHO b/c common people are catching on and they can't stop freedom no matter how hard they try. I won't go into extent of list of names, it's out there...
krgrubbs 8 months ago
@Texmurphy51 ..and also think of Meyer's death, his aneurysm was the effect, the cause was the poison. It was his last words to his brother. But that's irrelevant whether he was poisoned or not, I truely believe in his work. There are a lot of crap in the market too, people trying to sell hybrid HHO conversion kits to "save" gas money, but the real invention doesn't need any fossil fuels to aid in burning.
krgrubbs 8 months ago
@krgrubbs "aneurysm was the effect, the cause was the poison"
Poison does not cause an aneurism.
If you Believe in Meyers work then why didnt those around him continue it?
What proof have you that it worked?
He ran a dune buggy down the road & claimed it was running on water. Have you seen any evidence of that other than a few video clips?
Texmurphy51 8 months ago
@Texmurphy51 Actually many poisons can cause aneurysms, examples: lead, mercury, but not my point. Yes i have personally witnessed with my own eyes each indivudual component of stan's dune buggy. I also happen to have copies of his documents in pdf format, and also his first invention has been replicated by a few people. I can't believe you are either having such a hard time comprehending this concept of simple hydrogen, or are you seriously "pro-fossil fuels". Don't hurt your image any more
krgrubbs 8 months ago
@krgrubbs I dont dispute that an engine can run on Hydrogen. What I dispute is that the engine can generate electricity, crack water and run on that hydrogen/oxygen with NO EXTERNAL FUEL.
Engines have run on hydrogen since the 1809 but NON have created their own fuel.
Why start with a huge car engine.
Just do this with a small lawnmower engine. If you can get this working you will be a Billionare.
No one will poison you dispite the stories.
My father died of an aneurism & nobody poisoned him.
Texmurphy51 8 months ago
@krgrubbs So if anyone feels free enough to use HHO gas from water, it can be done and has been done. We must all use this technology and share it, no patents, no profits. Just pure energy on the down low. Like weed, it's illegal but you can't control it no matter how hard you try, its a gift from God and we shall embrace it.
krgrubbs 8 months ago
First off very nice project, second check out Craig westbrook's findings- he got the chance to sit on Stan meyers buggy,and has a great torch set up! Also a good person to talk shop over the phone.
silentsofdogood 1 year ago
what did you have to do to the lawn mower to get it to use the HHO
connerskate 1 year ago
what did you have to do to the lawn mower to get it to use the HHO
connerskate 1 year ago
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what did you have to do to the lawn mower to get it to use the HHO
connerskate 1 year ago
what did you have to do to the lawn mower to get it to use the HHO
connerskate 1 year ago
lol nice
Video85Man 1 year ago
I had mowers that would run on gasoline line that. Fire off & quickly die. Put a volume tank on that thing and show the world what hho can do.
westkan 1 year ago
wow, longs comments over a 10 second video.
halo7 2 years ago
did you now dc engines when turnd by hand ore by draging ore by wind they make curent all of them do start thinking about runing your cell on dc motor my favorit is a razor scootor motor . combined energeys look in to wind soaler meathane and steam any way you create motion you canb draw energey think big water wind fire hamster ?
zuseable 2 years ago
People scam lots of things dude, but this isn't one of them. Anyone with an IQ above 50 can build a water electrolysis system. If you wanna flame scammers, write a letter to the white house, Obama is the biggest scammer of them all...
wildbill6976 2 years ago 25
wildbill, you do have me with obama being the biggest scammer of all.
I also agree with you that people with an average IQ if 50 believes somehow that hho is some sort of solution and not a scam. Those with an IQ above 100 is scamming those that are trying to build hho generators.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
What? HHO gnerators are easy to make its not a scam. all you need is a bucket of water and an electrical source like a car battery with two electrodes going into the bucket. but a container over a each electrode and one captures oxygen and the other captures hydrogen, not a scam, simple science. easyer to obtain than gasoline and much cleaner.
ubrbzkr 2 years ago
ubr, the losses in producing hydrogen are great, why not just use the same battery to run an electic motor?
But if you want to hook a battery to a bucket of water to run a lawnmower, go with God.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
ok true i didnt want to mention that, but using hydrogen is much cooler, and as you can see from the video the guy didnt have to do too much to convert the lawnmower into someting that uses hydrogen. Instead if he converted it to use a battery it would probably have been alot more work.i know it is technicaly less efficent than just using a battery cause of losses through heat and other stuff when using electrical energy to do hydrolysis to make hydrogen. whats cooler explosions or electricity?
ubrbzkr 2 years ago
Actually, looking closer this is a gasoline mower, and they hooked up an hho generator to it. $100 it's running off gas and $1000 if the gas runs out it couldn't run a second on the hho produced.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
electricity is pretty cool when you think about it, but explosion powered machinery is badass.
madnesscombat5 2 years ago 10
@madnesscombat5 lol it's badass, but primitive. Overcomplicated. However, don't get me wrong!: I greatly advocate the safe use and production of hydrogen.
acwrobel1 1 year ago
@madnesscombat5 You do know that combustion engines couldn't run without electricity, right?
lyrison 7 months ago
@lyrison yeah i know that, but i was talking about electric motors, electric motors get their power from electricity, but combustion engines get it from explosions :D
madnesscombat5 7 months ago
@wildbill6976 obama is not a scammer, the republicans are scammers they support the big oil companies and dont want to raise taxes, they voted off the jobs bill THOSE ARE SCAMMERS
pspuria81 4 months ago
@wildbill6976 100% right on.
MrManboobie 1 month ago
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fjccommish 2 years ago
Before anyone says anything, do you're research.....
(Look on more then just one website nubs...)
Dan18green 2 years ago
last time I checked at Sears, they didn't have an HHO lawnmower at any cost!!!!!
I told them I saw one on the internet but they just laughed at me!!!! I then let them in on the joke and showed them this video and comments and they laughed their asses off!!!
Even they know HHO is a joke.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
MOHAMADBABBY must work for Big Oil Co....U afraid of change!!No one likes change >>But if u put a small amount-- say pint of HHO up your ??Light it you will feel the power!!
mytickets 2 years ago
Yes, I make millions of dollars a year by writing on youtube... bwahahhahahha
Now back to reality.
The energy from the gas hho is the same as the electricity energy put into it. Do you put a pint of hho up your aZZ for thrills?
I'm sure you have figured out perpetual motion and will become the next billionaire. When you do, be sure to remember how you laughed at me. If and when you don't, remember how I laughed my ass off at you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bwahahhahhahahhahahahahaaaa
mahammadabba 2 years ago
lol
losttreasurehunt 2 years ago
How about saving the earth and buying an old style non-motorized push mower? That would take zero energy except for muscle power.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
hho is 100 percent no polution so u go cave man on uss we will go on evolving clean technolagy
davison1021 2 years ago
No pollution? What do you put into the water cell to promote electrolysis? Is it salt or baking soda? Do you drink it or wash it down the driveway? Kind of takes away that '100 percent no pollution', doesn't it? What do you use for the electrolysis? Electricity? Where does that come from? Coal? Not 100% no pollution there. I'm trying to figure out how you can produce hho without causing some pollution.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
well really anything can be consiterd pollution. in a derset invironment, too much water could kill off the flora and fauna and could therefore be consiterd polution. since hydrogen oxygen combustion reactions result in the release of heat and water which are not consitered dangerous poulltants it is a good soluion to this "global warmaing" stuff.
ubrbzkr 2 years ago
What a great invention. This thing ran for about 2 seconds. bwahahhhahaa
Have you sold this to John Deere? Of couse, you would have to have an extention cord plugged into an outlet. But then again, electric mowers have been invented and don't need the added cost of electroysis.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
exactly my thoughts... Buy an electric lawnmower. These people using 10HP of Electric to run a 5HP Engine at 50%, NUMPTYS, this is not a conspiracy by the "feds" this is SCIENCE. ENERGY CANNOT BE CREATED OR DESTROYED.
hydrohobbyist 2 years ago
FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SOME EDUCATED INTELLIGENCE!!!
I'm so sick of these backyard saturday mechanics thinking they can put 2 battery leads into a cup of water and drive for free.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
Energy can be transferred though.
A solar cell (a big one albeit), or wind turbine, etc... can be used to generate the necessary HHO gas, which is then compressed and fed into the lawnmower.
But there is one problem with this. 2 stroke engines NEED OIL They love their oil so much it has to be mixed with their gasoline. If there is no oil present in the fuel the engine will practical power itself to destruction. But, who doesnt like to see an engine cease up?
tyeo098 2 years ago
Sure, use solar of wind to generate hho (there are losses in those systems so some of the energy is lost) then have an expensive cell to hold the hho until it can be used.
A smarter way would be use the solar cells or wind to charge a battery and use a battery powered lawnmower, or better yet use muscle power and a push mower. That's the plan of the future.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
Well technally THEY could if they got the batteries for free. HAHAHHAHAHAAH!!!!!!! lol free battries In this economy?!?! lol.
ubrbzkr 2 years ago
i save 40 percent gas mpg with my cell i drive an intrepid 3.5 with a mpg guage the 5 dollars was worth it
davison1021 2 years ago
Wow, 5 dollars saves you 40%? I so don't believe you. What did you spend the $5 on? 2 cables from your battery into a bottle of water? You mean we could save 40% of the gas used in America by making some simple-ass hho tank? What happens when your valves are so plugged with carbon they won't seal? Or when the piston walls rust from the boiled off water gets into them? When the cylinders warp because of the added heat of leaning out the fuel mixture?
I can tell you aren't looking long term
mahammadabba 2 years ago
i spent the 5 dollars on the stainless electropoles,the bubbler stops water fr getting to the intake , theirs zero build up ,hydrogen doesnt creat carbon it creates breathable air and cleanes your engine ass you drive looking longterm its a 93 intrepid wit 200 000 kms on it bin doin it for a while and it keeps getting better so w-e your loss
davison1021 2 years ago
I have yet to see anyone document any gain in hho. In fact, no one has ever proven an increase in MPG using hho. I sure see a lot of claims, but then again there are 'miracle magnets' that increase mpg, and 'pills and liquids' to put in the tank that claim to increase mpg, all fakes and frauds to steal money from weak minded individuals. There's nothing to stop you from throwing your money away, but if you try to convince others to buy it I'm here to say it's all a scam.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
oh stfu it cost nothing to build look it up the goverment even asked to have a vehicul built to run off it their is tones of proof on the net
davison1021 2 years ago
davison, I can't really make out what you are trying to say. If it's the governments are pushing hydrogen cell vehicles that's a world different from the hho scam.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
hey ive argued you b4 mohhammed you clearly like to argue hho and hydrogen are the same thing made the same way on demand so go argue somewhere you actually know what your about
davison1021 2 years ago
davison, you don't know the difference between 'hydrogen cell' and 'hho'. The theory is the same - the hydrogen for the cell is made by using excess power off peak from generators. The car and engine are designed for the hydrogen cell.
The HHO hoax is taking a gasoline engine and using electrolysis from the running car's battery to produce hydrogen and oxygen to feed back into the gasoline running car.
You are comparing apples and watermelons. Nothing in common other than a vehicle.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
i use a second alternater to power it and i also use baking soda and spring water no electroshit
and it cost less so if you dony beleive me try it or stfu and keep paying the extra 5 -7 bucks a week in gas oh i drive only 20 km a day so thats why its so low
davison1021 2 years ago
So where do you think the energy from the 2nd alternator comes from? Could it be..... the engine? Where does that energy come from? Could it be.. the gasoline?
Did you lean out the air/fuel mix? That might be where you are getting some savings but no one has ever documented hho working. No one. Your claims are not documentation. If you get actual documentation of mileage increase FROM THE HHO then I might be swayed, but like I said, no one has ever documented savings.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
ok so su now the engine runs off gas but if you can shut the gas pump off and run only on hydrogen then what what are you talking about im subscribed to three people who proved it on youtube only type waterpowered van watch the series the second alternater doesnt need extra pawer to turn well maybe a milihorse lol
davison1021 2 years ago
There is a mountain of evidence that HHO does boost the gas mileage. I have documented it myself, and that's all I need to prove it to. If you don't want to save money, that's your business. As for me I save $100 bucks a month on gas by using HHO.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
I use less than $100 every 2 months on gas.
So you save $100 per month on gas? What do you spend, $10,000 a month on gas? Why is it when Dateline NBC had their car modified to use HHO they either didn't get any gas savings or it actually used more gas? Would you put your car under test or are you one of those that say 'just believe me because I said it'?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
They reported that there was no change. Then they reported there was a 2% increase when they turned if off. Hello. They probably turned it on.
They lied saying there was no change. They had an agenda, and when they got the surprising results that it worked they lied about it. You can see the lie when you watch it again.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
Both the PM guy and the Dyno Guy look up and to the left when they lie. That is a tell tale sign, ask any police detective.
Further NBC is owned by General Electric, and GE is in the oil business. They are using their show as a PR arm to try to discount the biggest enemy to oil profits imaginable. If everyone in america had an HHO device in their car the oil companies would lose billions.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
So their looks make them liars? bwahhhhahahhaaa
Your concluding that GE is in the oil business makes you a genius, along with putting 2 electrodes into a bottle you are a super genius. why don't you open up your own car company and sell them, no gas needed?????
bwahhhahhahhhahhahahaaaa
mahammadabba 2 years ago
they were working with licensed mechanics, who know the difference between turning it on and turning it off. Maybe you are turning it off and getting better mileage and turning it on and getting worse?
How is it you are getting better mileage? Do you lean out the gas/air mixture? How do you confuse the computer and it's sensors? I could block gas flow and get better mileage, it's not rocket science but the gas engines are made for specific gas and not hho.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
No I don't lean out the gas mixture. I get the benefits without all that. My van is a 1991. It doesn't have the computer sensors that cars made after 1996 have that attempt to remove the benefit (by design?) from HHO.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
then how can you save gas if it's not leaning out the mixture? If you just dump hydrogen into a vehicle it will still put gas in like it's not there.
You hho guys don't know the first thing about vehicles, you have heard that putting 2 electrodes into a glass bottle will increase mileage.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
you only have to lean out the mixture on newer cars, because the O2 sensors wrongly interpret the higher oxygen as the combustion is too lean. Therefore the computer tries to compensate by dumping more gas into the mix. The efie enhancer leans out the mix in an attempt to fix this problem.
On carburated cars and cars with ECG before 1996 don't need to have an efie or map sensor enhancer for it to work.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
So how does one adjust newer cars computer? Wouldn't this void a warrenty? I'd be real concerned putting this on a new vehicle. Also, who's insuring your selling these units to put on cars in case of a fire or death?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
because HHO works
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
So do all the other perpetual motion machines?
What scientific principle do you attribute this miracle of gas mileage increase to?
And what insurance company is covering your product? Or are you taking personal liability for any malfunctions and damage that might happen?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
So does my battery/inverter to run the battery charger to charge the battery perpetual motion machine works also. It needs to be plugged into the wall outlet JUST LIKE the car converting hho needs a constant inflow of gas to work.
Funny how perpetual motion machines work if they are fed by an external power source.
What's your insurance? You have yet to answer.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
Ok if HHO works, how many HHO generators would it take to run a car independent of gasoline? If it's actually overunity, there is a breakaway point where it actually produces enough power to run itself and draw off enough power to run a car's transmission system. How big or how many hho generators would it take???????
mahammadabba 2 years ago
First of all I don't believe in over unity, so forget that. Second to run a car on HHO without gasoline I assume you'd need about 40-50 LPM for a smaller 4 cylinder engine, and 60 for V6. This is purely speculation on my part. Although I did hear that someone did it. They ran a V8 from HHO produced off of home current.
I suppose the best way to calculate the necessary amounts of HHO is to start with solid numbers with smaller engines and scale it up.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
So how did they store the hydrogen accumulated from home? It's very volitile and hard to store.
So what makes an engine run better with HHO? How does it run on less gas if the mixture stays the same? How does the insurance factor fit in? Are you protected and are you protecting the public in general with your product?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
I didn't say they stored it. My understanding is he used a lot of power to produce it on demand.
I wouldn't say a internal combustion engine runs better on HHO, just that it is interesting that it will.
The reason it gives a boost in fuel economy is simply the fact that the HHO mixture burns the gasoline more completely. i.e. You can light charcoal with a match, but it burns much better when you put lighter fluid on it. HHO is like that, it makes the fuel burn better.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
So a boost in fuel economy happens spontaniously without reducing the quantity of gas going through the engine? How does that happen? Maybe I should believe that a car runs mor effeciently in sunlight vs dark? That makes about as much sense.
The engine would run on hho alone, but the power required to seperate enough water would be bigger than the gas engine itself.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
Have you seen some of these fuel injectors on cars these days? They squirt gas into the cylinder like a squirt gun. A stream of liquid. Do you know how hard it is to burn liquid gas? Gasoline burns best when vaporized. Why do you think cars have catalytic converters? If the gasoline burned efficiently there would be no need for the catalytic converter. No its not spontaneous fuel economy. if the gasoline burns more efficiently it will stretch the amount of gas needed.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
fuel injectors are a different carburation system, the old style of carburator worked just fine. When the gas gets sucked into the combustion chamber it immediately vaporizes.
Catalytic converters are to filter out the additaves to the gas so it doesn't get exhausted into the atmosphere. Again, cars got along just fine before them.
How can gas get saved if the flow of gas doesn't choke down? Is it one of those miracle things?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
WHAT!?!?!? whay the hell would they need to lie they just gave there findings, they are nutreal in the argument and never took a side they just wanted to see if it did anyting with nothing to loose!
ubrbzkr 2 years ago
Heck, I just made $100 at the local casino without any hho scams.
Can you say the same?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
lucky for me, every time I turn my HHO unit on, it saves me money. Every time.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
Hello, where's the proof?
Very lucky for you, that is, you are one of the claims of working. Could it be because you are selling (scamming) them?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
I began selling these because I became convinced that they work through my own experience. Since then I did have had a customer with a late model car say it didn't work, that he actually had a decrease in fuel economy. We didn't use EFIE's so we believe his car's computer is the reason not the HHO. If car manufacturers are producing cars that fight the benefits that HHO produces, clearly the car manufacturers are at fault.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
Only sellers of hho get increased gas mileage. I wonder why no one else can increase their MPG using HHO?
Clearly the car manufacturer's have ruled out any possible benefit's by adding HHO systems as they would be the first to slap them on production vehicles IF it added anything to the car.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
That's not true, everyone else gets the increase too. Its only the late model cars that have computers that override the benefits that don't get it. If everyone used HHO in America we'd save billions of dollars in foreign oil.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
So why didn't NBC get any increase, in fact, they got a decrease in MPG? The person installing the hho system didn't hesitate in putting it in place. Their documentation is open and available.
If it doesn't increase MPG how can we save billions of dollars?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
Again, not true, they said they got no SIGNIFICANT difference. Then they said the didn't get any change. Then they said they got a small increase with the device off.
"Significant" is an arbitrary word which can be interpreted in eyes of the beholder. You see it as no increase, I see it as a small increase.
But never do they say it gets worse. Only the theorists say it gets worse, not the ones doing the test.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
True, they didn't get any increase and actually got a decrease when they turned on the hho unit. That would make your statement of 'NO SINIFICANT' difference. I thought this hho was going to save billions of dollars? How can this happen if it takes an expensive water bottle with electrodes in it, a current limiter, a valve to prevent backfire, tweaking the computer to make it think it needs less gas and on and on... and then the thing decreases the MPG after all is said and done?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
also they used a late model car, they knew would fight the results. I don't understand how you can be skeptical about something you have no empirical evidence to support your position. You argue your point based on faith. I have real world experience, and know from the evidence it works. How can you maintain a dogmatic position without any evidence other than claims made by others?
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
If that's your excuse, why didn't the mechanic tell (truthfully) to the NBC team that installing this unit on a 'late model car' wouldn't SIGNIFICANTALLY' increase the gas mileage? Is it because he's selling maybe $50 worth of crap for $1000 and a promise that never happens (or happened in this case?)
You are selling components for this, why would you say that it doesn't work? Especially when you have sold 'hundreds' of units? Where's your proof? In your fillups and simple calculations?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
I'll be posting a video soon.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
Soon, just like Meyer's breakthrough was always coming 'soon'. To placate the investors of course. Some took him back to court and got their money back, everyone else lost everything. If anyone offered me billions of dollars for an invention I'd be signing so fast and making my investors millionaires so fast it wouldn't be funny. What bullshit he was holding his 'invention' for humanity. He knew it didn't work. That's why he didn't let the car get investigated.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
I don't think you can say that about Meyer, that he knew his invention didn't work. I think he believed in it. whether it really worked or not, it remains to be seen.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
Of couse he knew it didn't work. Read how he showed his dune buggy to the press then REFUSED TO HAVE IT INSPECTED. Those inspecting it could not have figured out the 'magic frequency' he sold to investors. He knew it ran off gas and not purely hho. He was a scammer. Pure and simple.
By the way, is your circuit pure dc or is it a pulsed/modulated one like Meyer's? That was his claim to the 'overunity' promises.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
And the products I sell on ebay work. You cannot be a scammer and sell products for years and expect to continue. Ebay's feedback program eliminates that possibility. I have 100% positive feedback. You can't be a scammer or a liar and have that. Its not possible. Yes my pulse width modulator is pulsed dc. I don't claim overunity with it. I do claim that my product works 100% or I'll fix it for free.
Meyer wouldn't have people inspect his buggy because he was afraid people would steal his ideas.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
meyer was a scammer. Period. You are making excuses for his scamming. You are scamming people, too. From what I see you are producing a current limiter so the current doesn't run wild and blow the fuse. (That's my EE talking)
mahammadabba 2 years ago
Well of course I'm getting an increase and that's why I sell these. I wouldn't sell them if they didn't work. I take issue with people that call me a scammer or a liar. You would too if someone called you a scammer or liar, and you knew the charge was a lie in itself.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
The mechanic sold one to the NBC reporter that didn't work. He gave it to them claiming it worked and the hho didn't increase MPG and actually decreased MPG. What part of 'scammer' don't you understand?
You are a 'pathological liar' because you believe your own lies told as to HHO, lol.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
wow a pathological liar... I've been called many things, but never a pathological liar. That actually hurts.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
Only if you believe what you say. If it's true (no hho claim has been substanciated to date). Maybe you will be the first, probably not. Have you put your machine on a dynometer to prove power output is increased with the hho gas produced?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
Again, not true. HHO has been used around the world by thousands of people. Thousands have proved that it works. Only the die hard skeptics like yourself, who have never used it, claim it doesn't work. You guys really need to get a life and stop wasting peoples time. I don't know why you are so skeptical when this can benefit you and save you money too.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
For all the 'thousands' that have 'proved' hho works I haven't seen one, not one, evidence of it. Ever. I'm not holding my breath either.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
Last I checked there were no documented writings of the success of HHO. If there were 'thousands' of people' wouldn't there be thousands of papers on that HHO success? Or maybe hundreds? Or tens? Why not even one????
mahammadabba 2 years ago
I just figured out who is supressing these thousands of people, it's BIG OIL!!!! They have successfully taken the successfull HHO people's documentation from the internet. Bad BIG OIL, you should be ashamed of yourself....
bwahhhhahahhahahaaa
mahammadabba 2 years ago
What is your problem, people tinkering with alternative energys can only help. Their is no harm to any one when people do this.
sssssbooom 2 years ago
What's my problem? Just pointing out the scammers are trying to sell people hho with the promise of 'increased energy' that doesn't work. I got nothing against windmills and solar (they are expensive and I wouldn't pay that much for what little they put out but there is a 20 year breakeven point). There is no 'harm' if someone wants to try it but there is harm if money is scammed off people that want to believe it will work like promised.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
How is trying to run a lawn mower on hho scamming?
sssssbooom 2 years ago
Look at all the 'related' videos. They point to the scammers selling ebooks and crap that actually lowers MPG.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
So you post all this scammer stuff on a video that isn't trying to sell stuff?
sssssbooom 2 years ago
I debunk hho. So you go to hho sites and do what? Whatever it is it isn't working.
Have a great day!!!!!!!
mahammadabba 2 years ago
You try to hinder what could be a great technology.
sssssbooom 2 years ago
In kansas there's 3 large arrays of wind turbines. they could power topeka, and most of the outter cities of KC., and because of budget cuts these windmills are free spinning. No power comes from them cause the lines can't handle thier output. glad you agree No harm no Foul.
PaperSydney 2 years ago
paper, even Pickins in all his billionaire glory has backed down from a wind farm in Texas because no one will spend the money to build lines to him (for free, of course, while he makes tons of money). If you wish to purchase large wind turbins, contact T. Boone and I'm sure he will be happy to unload his unusable stock in a heartbeat.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
is this true.. got a link for the story?? what a fucking shame man...we should tell the MEDIA!!!! HAHAHA... I MEAN IT
xxx777aaa 2 years ago
kool but hydrogen bombs produce much more energy, skrew "clen energy" we have nuclear, if we can perfect fusion we have it made. then again geothermal is kinda cool.
ubrbzkr 2 years ago
NBC is owned by Big Oil. They are making false claims about HHO because it is a competitor to their product. Everyone can make HHO, its power to the people. Only the oil companies and their lackeys are against HHO.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
"NBC is owned by Big Oil" bwahhhahahhhahhahhahahhaha
Power to the people all right. All they need is massive current draw - the utilities should be pushing hho, it would double their profits.
I'm still waiting for your wonderful fact filled documentary regarding the massive MPG upswing with your old van. When is it coming???????
mahammadabba 2 years ago
I spoke to my insurance agent and she said that if an hho unit causes a car fire the insurance is void. By the way, do you have insurance on your units you are selling? What happens if it causes a car fire and someone is hurt or killed or they cause someone else to be hurt and killed and the cause comes back to a faulty hho unit installed on a vehicle? What protection do you give others and what do you have on yourself? Out of these hundreds of units on the road one will eventually fail.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
I've documented it. The problem is you wouldn't believe it even it you documented it.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
The problem is that the documentation is probably flawed or an outright lie.
Why haven't you provided an answer regarding you having insurance to cover death and destruction of private property?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
The documentation is not flawed, I have demonstrated it to myself. I will be making a video showing my methodology and documented fuel use for the last year, and then have an on going comparison with HHO soon.
As far as insurance goes, in Hawaii as in many states we have no fault insurance. Which means that it doesn't matter who's fault it is, the insurance company pays.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
I can't wait to read your documentation. That would be like claiming to use less water by injecting hho into my shower, the rate of water flow remains the same but somehow it's more effecient????
You are confusing 'no fault' laws. So if a drug company produces defective pills they are immune from lawsuits?
You are saying if an hho system backfires or melts and causes a car to catch on fire that the hho producer isn't at fault? Have you even talked to an insurance agent about liability?
mahammadabba 2 years ago
I'm not advocating using products in an unsafe manner. I am saying that if used properly and according to manufacturers specifications HHO is safe. If a person hooks up a cell without a fuse and it catches fire, it is that persons fault, not the fault of the company if they specified you must use a fuse.
water2gashawaii 2 years ago
what happens if a fuse is hooked up and it still catches on fire? I guess only a good (hungry greedy) lawyer will eventually tell you what dollar amount that would cost you.
mahammadabba 2 years ago
in that case isnt runing out of baking soda and spring water the same as running out of gas or electrical power? its all about what fuels you can get teh cheepst. insteaad of using hho to power a lawn mower, if your concerned about cost then just use a push mover. im shure the food that gives u energyh to push is cheeper than gas.
ubrbzkr 2 years ago
not in a car with an alternater and battery what now
davison1021 2 years ago
Pure hydrogen is better than oxygen and hydrogen.Most cells only produce 60% hydrogen
losttreasurehunt 3 years ago
A cell is for producing power. This is an electorlyser .
a fuel cell is an invention by REAL Scientists, not backyard Alchemists, dont mix the two
hydrohobbyist 2 years ago
No, the hydrogen fuel cell was invented in the back yard, but used different methods.
the most primeval method is to use platinum wire as a cat to recombine H and O to generate electricity, but it only had a 50% efficiency.
tyeo098 2 years ago
Build a bladder tank ,let hho build up pressure store it then use it,the only way off a 12 volt system.Need to have 2 blabbers of a least 2 gallons,a upper chamber and a lower the hho will rise to the top of the 2nd bladder will have almost pure gas, 0xygen will settle to the bottom .Try this with a ballon ,then try it without the bladders
losttreasurehunt 3 years ago
i gave it 5
midgetmayo 3 years ago
great , but adjust the timing also to get the full output and steady run.
nadeem5476 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
there is no such thing as HHO it is chemically imposable to create because of the way that hydrogen bonds to oxygen
gudwyo 3 years ago
Doesn't electrolysis of water produce hydrogen and oxygen gases?
surrealdirector 3 years ago 3
Hmmm.. So when I put my lighter near my HHO generator outlet and it goes BOOM! What exploded?
HHO2Burn 3 years ago 2
how many lpm did it take to power this
stronglungs 3 years ago
close to 1 lpm
no1young 3 years ago
How are you making your hydrogen? There are different ways. The one should have is slow burning hydrogen. I think the hydrogen here is saturated with oxygen.
mikeyidh 3 years ago
how to adjust the timing on a lawnmower engine
stronglungs 4 years ago 2
excellent it worked,well done thanks for vid,great
DIMPLEKEY 4 years ago
sooo close
rs4pro 4 years ago 2