@xspectrumgaming i will give you the best comment that you ever read. Someone once told me i would rather spend the rest of my life believing in god to die and find out he doesnt exist than to live the rest of my life not believing in god and find out he does exist. Do a google search of dr. Aiko hormann ministries. She is a christian and a scientist. I honestly feel that her teachings are the best and can really help you.
@remusnigga Thanks, I'll look her up. However, I don't think that one has to belong to a certain religion to go to "heaven" (or whatever afterlife awaits). For example, I'm pretty sure Gandhi is in heaven, and he wasn't Christian. In the same way, I think as long as I live my life in a moral manner, I should be good...
@remusnigga Also, I don't mean to completely undermine the faith you believe in, but the uncertainty principle can pretty much disprove any kind of intervening God. It states that until something has been observed, it both exists and doesn't exist... Which means that God (being unobserved) is nonexistent, and in turn, cannot intervene.
I have a question for christians, but they've never been able to answer me properly.
I figured that this might be a perfect way to finally get some answers : )
Have you ever considered that the Bible might be a fairytale?
No offense, but talking snakes, Adam being made out of dust, the world being flodded 2459(?)BC even though civilizations kept going like nothing happend?
+The fact that Adam and Eve, the first two people on earth, had children who married someone from a town nearby?!
@SpecTechHD I can't answer Your 3 Questions. But The More That I think about The Reality Of an Invisible Man That lives In The Clouds, and does Whatever The Hell he wants,having His Only Defense Being that It's HIS Will For OUR Lives. Crystal Meth Addiction, 9/11 Babies being Killed in Drive By shootings, a REAL Loving God Would Not Only Intervene,but NOT allow So Much Bullshit to happen. There Is No santa Clause And We are To REJECT magic nut Believe In God's magic because of some old book???
@remusnigga That's what I was afraid of... I don't necessarily want to become an atheist/deist, but I've looked everywhere for answers to things that should be simple, and haven't found anything. I don't want to turn away faith, but I certainly don't want to embrace ignorance.
I dare this gay dork to have a debate with a black muslim about how the holy bible and christianity is correct and say to him how the koran is garbage the muslims are a cult and louis farakhan is a false prophet that needs to get saved. HA HA HA HA!
Ron vietti was born veronica vietti. He had a sex change and later became ron. He has been divorced 4 times and josh is his stepson and is debbies son. He also let brian welch stay at his house and smoked pot with him. Some christian he is! Huh?
Ron Vietti is A false Preacher and Very Inexperienced and Gay Too. His valley Bible Fellowship church Is a Cult that Can't decide Which religion it wishes to be each week,as the preaching constantly changes to be more watered down,and cultic than ever before!
I believe in Jesus and that he was God in the flesh and is alive right now, but I do wish that Ron would use more concrete logic to explain Gods' existence, because if you think critically and logically, with human reasoning, we find that faith in an eternal creator is logical, because something cannot come from nothing, and you can't have an infinite number of creators, there must logically be a stopping point, an eternal cause who is God. It makes the most sense reasonably.
@brianwelchisaphony I'm a christian and I don't agree with some things of what he believes, but I don't think he's a cult leader.. lol. If he's a cult leader, then he's not an evil cult leader. Does your definition of a cult have a negative meaning, or can cults be positive? You can't assume things so quickly. Jesus is lord, and logic itself proves that God exists, since something cannot come from nothing; God is the creator of all empiracle and non empiracle things.
2Ninjajesus I am NOT in a CATHOLIC CHURCH!!! I serve In a Non Denominational CHRISTIAN CHURCH!!!! I have done My RESEARCH and KNOW that I am In The cORRECT Church. Jesus Christ Did NOT Start a Denomination,Nor a religion! i DO NOT ATTEND A SECT! YOU MIGHT THOUGH! I don't have an Ego! And I NEVER use The Lords Name In Vein! God allows MANY Things, Good and Bad To happen For MANY different reasons! NEVER Underestimate His Power!!
@Ninjajesus God ALLOWED The earthquake to happen In Japan. Those People Were WARNED to leave,but Chose to Stay! JUST LIKE IN NEW ORLEANS! When God Gives a COMMAND,YOU NEED TO LISTEN!!!!!
@Chaps1008 I am a Pastor. And I can actually tell You that I Have No Proof that There Is a God. But I act Like there is. As far as molestation etc. etc. it is sad that it happens, BUT If God were there to PREVENT EVERY bad thing from ever happening then we Wouldn't have the gift of free will to use Now would we?
@brianwelchisaphony So god can't prevent every bad thing from happening because we wouldn't have free will? How would we not have free will?
So if an earthquake kills thousands of people in Japan, and if god had stopped it, that would be infringing on our free will? How? That makes no sense.
@ninjajesus81 That Is God ALLOWING It to Happen For Those That STILL choose To have Their Families AND CHILDREN attend the Catholic Church,and Her FALSE Teachings!
@brianwelchisaphony Whatever denomination you're a part of, there's molestation happening in it too.
You have the arrogance to think that you not only chose the correct religion, but you also chose the correct SECT within that religion? Do you really have that big of an ego?
Why is your sect of Christianity the correct one? Because you're a member? That's pretty god damn arrogant.
I also love how god allows molestation to happen on the INNOCENT children for their parent's mistake.
Ron vietti allows his son josh to occasionally pastor the childrens ministry and minister to teens about drugs. Even though josh is a registered sex offender that smokes weed. If you ask pastor ron he will get defensive and say yeah well god delivered him from that or who are you to judge? I have friends that go there and they keep tabs on him.
I have been going to VBF for about two years now and Pastor Ron and everyone at VBF has had such a profound impact on me. The church has changed me for theb etter. Pastor Ron is an AWESOME pastor. I felt at home there THE VERY FIRST DAY! I'd never dream of going anywhere else! It's certainly not a cult. I am a very faithful attender of every Wednesday night and Sunday morning. Would never go anywhere else.
Ron vietti needs to repent of his homosexual tendencies and for twisting scripture. And valley bible fellowship is one of the biggest cults there is. Please do not attend there or give them any money. Thank you.
@devoted2him1 I Am 36 Years Old,and a Cgristian. Pastor Ron Talks EXTREMELY gay,and His Message Bored me to Death. The Staff There Were Worse Than The Italian Mafia! They Through Me Out,and Never extended ANY Type Of Grace. Worst Church I have EVER been To In My Life! So sad That You are a member of Their CULT!
Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?-James 4:11-12
Ron vietti is such a gay heretic cult leader of valley bible fellowship it surprises me that he is not a senior pastor at metropolitan community church i rebuke him and his cult both in the name of jesus christ. Amen.
@chaps1008 It's impossible to disprove god exists because god is supposedly magical and can stay hidden no matter how hard we look.
But you can say that about Zeus and Thor and Shiva. It applies to all gods, not just the one you worship. But it applies to any fictional character you can think of. No one has ever disproven that there's a Spiderman. No one has ever disproven that there are Pokemon. Your argument that it's never been disproven is obviously pointless.
@ninjajesus81 When I get on my knees and pray to my God my prayers get answered I call that a miracle. When I ask my God to help me through a situation I may be going through He does! He's never let me down because I believe that He is real. I talk to HIm and He replies! Call me crazy I don'e care! I know He lives! Challenge my theory and open your mind to the surreal. Who's open minded? The one who says He doesn't exist or the one who looked outside the box to try and find out?
@chaps1008 If I flip a coin and ask god to make it land on heads, and it lands on heads, was my prayer answered? Maybe. Or maybe it was just a 50/50 chance and I got lucky.
I could have asked Spiderman to make it land on heads and would have gotten the same result.
If I prayed to Spiderman to make a coin land on heads, and it does, would it be open minded of me to say that THAT is confirmation of Spiderman's existence? No, that's closed minded.
@ninjajesus81 When your driving down the highway and you barely miss an 18 wheeler would you consider that luck of God having mercy on you? When your little boy is getting molested by a young man and you happen to have a dream about it and end up convicting the guy would you call THAT luck? Or would you call that a miracle? I have tested your way of thinking and it did nothing for me! I never felt more alone in my life! Now test my theory. Try both ends and then argue with me!
@ninjajesus81 Wouldn't the little boy getting molested fall under the molesters free will?? I do call it a miracle because it was stopped. And yes you are right that people die everyday in car accidents but if by chance I die in a car accident then I am reassured that I will be with my God on that day so what a relief for me! I have peace of mind every time I get into my car. God Bless you and Ill be praying for you!
@chaps1008 So the little boy being molested is unavoidable because the molester has free will? No. Even with free will, your god can keep situations from existing where little kids will be molested. But it happens. It happens because there's no god to stop it from happening.
How many kids get molested for years and nothing happens?
And you want to call it God's good grace that someone stopped one kid from getting molested FURTHER?
@ninjajesus81 In my Bible it says that my God will not interfere with a persons free will. So if a person chooses to molest a child then that is their free will. Doesn't make the act right. My God will not stop a person from doing whatever it is they are going to do. Kids get molested because of stupid parents that choose not to protect them and as for my story. If a woman is a strong believer in her God prays for them everyday then her God is going to watch over them. HENSE THE DREAM!!!
@chaps1008 So God won't interfere with a person's free will, but you're missing my point. God doesn't have to interfere with free will to make situations not occur where kids will be in positions to get molested.
How many people prayed for their children every day, and sent their children to be with clergymen to inevitably get molested by them?
Are you saying they didn't pray hard enough? That they didn't REALLY believe? You've got all the bases covered with that cop out.
@ninjajesus81 you know all I can tell you is what I know from personal experience. I know that I pray for my family and they are doing just fine. I know that I have lived in a world with no God and it was the worst thing I have ever done. I know that I have personally seen and dealt with demons. Try my way of thinking and seek my God and maybe you'll see one day? But don't tell me that He doesn't exist if you have never made the effort to find Him. Im praying for you. Need something, Im here.
@chaps1008 So you pray for your family and they're doing just fine? That passes as proof for you?
How many Hindus pray to Shiva and their families are just fine? Lots. How many Muslims do the same thing? How many pagans do it? Do all of those gods exist just because their families are doing fine?
I don't believe you've actually seen a real demon. I think you're just calling it a demon, when it was probably just some crazy person. Or maybe you're hallucinating.
@ninjajesus81 And before you go criticizing other peoples religions why don't you test it out for yourself and actually have some fact about what you are speaking. You have all of these conclusions about Christianity being false but what research have you done besides listening to what other atheists have to say about it? If you truly think the is no God then you should have no problem testing it. According to you its false anyways so you don't have to worry about converting to Christianity.
@chaps1008 How can I test if god exists? Flip a coin and ask god to make it land on heads, and if it lands on heads, I can conclude god exists?
There is no testing it. I've read the Bible. It's horrible. The Bible itself gives me every indication I need that there's at least no Christian god. All the other religions are just as ridiculous, if not more ridiculous.
So tell me, how do I test if a god exists?
And which god am I testing? And how do you know which god it is?
Jeremiah Chapter 23 verse 2 YOU have Caused ME to scatter Pastor Ron Vietti! And So Did about 9 Staff Members Of Your Church! I rebuke You and Your Valley Bible Fellowship CULT In The Mighty Name Of Jesus! AMEN!
John 17:21-23 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: 23 I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
If we have a problem with someone we shouldn't riducule, but love them and pray for them.
@Lilskeezy1000 Valley Bible Fellowship IS a Total and Complete CULT! Pastor Ron Vietti is Very Gay and The message He Preaches is Very boring. The Music is Sacrilige and The Italian Mafia staff Love to argue when People point out errors in their watered down bent and twisted interpretation of the Bible. They DO NOT EXTEND GRACE OR WELCOME BACK BACKSLIDERS WITH OPEN ARMS! ABSOLUTELY THE WORST CHURCH ON THIS PLANET TODAY!
I dont know what service you went to but it probably wasn't pastor ron or valley bible bc i've never been to such a god filled church.OUr church accepts anyone and everyone. From our prison ministry to our porn convention ministry vbf will always welcomes anyone whose willing to hear God's word.
I'm only eighteen years old, and i've experienced a lot of churches but Pastor Ron has really broke through to me.
@lasvegasdaril Where do you get your information on Valley Bible being a cult?? Is that your opinion? Or is there some logic behind that? I attend that church and it is the best church I have ever been to! Im not brain washed and Im not attending a cult either! I have backslid at times and they welcomed me with open arms! Where are you getting this information. Please let me know and God Bless you!!
Im very very dissapointed in some of the comments i have read here. People say the church is a "cult", "horrible", ect. If you were really a son or daughter of god you would not be spending your time on this website posting such horrible comments. You dont have to agree with OUR church. And when i say "OUR" i mean yours to, the people upset at the church. We will always welcome you with open arms. The people that go to that church are christians. idc about their personal life.
God is a necessity of persons no matter if they believe on God really or don't, faith and religion aren't the same thing necessarily. I think that currently the churches are full of people whom say "I trust on God" but they don't trust on God really, they need to God only as excuse for feeling well. I am son of pastor, and I am trying to teach to my son how avoid marry with this kind of women "of the church". Thief is thief, What's this kind of women or man who pretend to be what she/he isn't.
@LilSkeezy1000 By the way, keep in mind Church is the assembly of true believers within whom Holy Spirit lives, this concept doesn't has direct relation with the institution called "church".
He's not mentally unstable. He just obviously loves what he does and there's nothing wrong with it. I listen to his sermons on the radio and have not once heard him preach something wrong or negative. He states the truth according to the bible and references it regularly. What I find hilarious is the fact that people watch this and get angry enough to leave their own two cent comments. Find something better to do.
I have Attended Services at this CULT Before And Listened to Your BORING FEMININE CULT LEADER PASTOR RON VIETTI preach about Ba baseball Hitting His Car Window had Brought Him To Church,yadda yadda yadaa amongst other bent twisted and watered down non bilical garbage,and I have to say,That i was Totally and Completely Unimpressed. they Even Support The Cult "Promise Keepers" at There Church,along with "Purpose Driven" Music affiliated With CULT member Rick Warren! HORRIBLE CHURCH!
@Babylsaac09 It saddens Me that You have been Deceived by Valley Bible Fellowship. Can You HONESTLY say that You can't see That The MAJORITY of attendees there,are living the Homosexual or Bisexual Lifestyle? Can't You hear That Ron Vietti talks VERY feminine? That Loud screaming Heavy Metal music That They Have is TOTAL sacrilige! They teaching is a Mixture of disciple of Christ,Evangelical,and Pentecostal. NOT Non Denominational Christianity! A VERY Boring Message Preached 2 a Horrible Church!
@lasvegasdaril you know what i dont care what you say, Ron is a great man that follows the word. Who are we to judge this man? Pastor Ron Vietti is a good man and valley bible has a great program going on and if it wasn't for them i would be on drugs still and living in the world.
I went to Their Las Vegas Church,before God Gave Me enough Discernment to see that they are NOT NOT NOT a Non Denominational Christian Church,like They CLAIM to be. They are a Disciple of Christ/Pentecoastal Church. EVERYONE here is Bisexual,and The Heavy Metal Guitar Music Is Loud and sacrilige. The People In Authority are EXTREMELY rude control freaks,and The Church is VERY Cultic,and Cliquish! Ron Vietti will BORE You to death with His Bent twisted and watered Down Preaching. He is BORING!
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, Lord of the Rings is much better. No Ents or Hobbits in the Bible. Is this joker for real? Your kid gets cancer and you have an audience with god. If he said that to me with a sick kid he would deny god after half an hour. Absolute joke! Go to a childrens hospice and spout your claptrap there, dummy! Did god not create the disease or the cell malfunction in the first place? Warped dangerous idiots.
The new testament, Isn't that the book that starts of with a contradiction? Mattheus' geneology vs lucas' geneology??? but hey who the fuck am I right? funny thing is, this guy studied the bible and he doesn't see it, and I only glanced at it.
Is Valley Bible Fellowship a Cult? YES! Is Ron Vietti an Unrepentant Bisexual Who Is On His way To hell? YES! I rebuke Valley Bible Fellowship AND Ron Vietti in Jesus Name! AMEN!
So the skeptics watched this then? by all the comments below, that's what I'm gathering. So what happens if you guys are all wrong? I guess we'll find out someday won't we?!
Ron Vietti talks like a Girl. The Music at his church is Loud Heavy Metal Sacrelige and The Message He Preaches is watered down bent and twisted Pentecostal Doctrine that Will Bore You Half to Death. AMEN To EVERYBODY That Exposes this Jackass False Preacher.
Great point mjbruce! I just saw a Nat Geo special about a fossil they got off of the top of Mount Everest. I don't know how people still think the world is 3,000 years old, Scary isn't it?
@sedg1 Speculation? Shut t up. It's an OBSERVABLE fact, just like studying evolution on fruit flies. But no amount of evidence can convince you, right? Jesus rode on dinosaurs and the New World didn't exist until it was discovered by Christopher Columbus. All the Indians are in hell because they didn't have a chance to believe in Jesus. Poor bastards. I better burn all my science books before God finds out I've been thinking again.
Hope he doesn't decide to pray something dangerous away.... what would you say would happen if he got a dose of cancer? would it be praying...or would you say he'd dust off those health insurance policies?
This guy is not actually giving any answers for skeptics... instead he he reading from the bible... now if I were skeptical, atheist or agnostic...would you say reading from the bible would be the proof I would need?
Science can't prove God because God created science, He created everything! How can God live in you, God can do anything, He created you so I gues if he wants to live in you he will. God loves you so love him back!
as with many comments here, this guy's a joke. how does god live in a house & in you. can anyone give me science behind this. iam rational & reasonable person. show me.
I think its at about 1:38 when he says "if one of your loved ones gets sick" god will fix it, of course not in those words but that was the message. Unfortunately this is not true, there was a little girl who died from a diabetic coma because her parents sat by her side praying when they could have taken her to hospital and saved her life. They clearly had faith because they bet their daughters life on it. Preaching this false message is evidently dangerous.
I attended this service. It was my first and last service at VBF. This was an Easter service. I attended with a friend because I thought it was going to be a celebration about Jesus and his resurrection. Why was this skeptic topic brought up on Easter? The place was packed with 3500 people and the remote subjects of Bill Maher, skeptics and gays going to hell were points of his sermon? WHY? I was there for EASTER. It seems like the "cool" church is a cult church. May God bless you all.
Its true alot of people go to church on Easter to celebrate Gods resurrection. But in reality, as Christians and believers shouldn't we be celebrating that everyday? "Easter" in fact has changed many times in history and its origins are from secular Greek culture.
If God would have came down to earth that day to just to speak to us, it wouldn't have been to celebrate his resurrection, it would have been to educate us and share ways on how to deal with the secular world.
this is evidence that the holy spirit is working through pastor Ron.favor is what he has.we should all pray for that.the devil is real and he does not want you here.search your hart.
first of all,valley bible fellowship is a cult. your senior pastor,ron vietti,talks like a girl,and his teachings are boring,and unscriptual. several homosexual heretics,attend your church,and they aren't getting any better. evolution created everything,and society created the idea of god,in a book written a long time ago. the main reason that people do not go,or stop going to church,is because the people at the church,act like their shit don't stink,and constantly badger people for money.
I'm having trouble believing that a god will deny you an eternity of happiness because you don't believe and worship him, even if you were good to others
It's about accepting His gift of eternal life through Jesus' attonement.....
""" For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:16-17"""
yes he does. He doesn't love their sin just like he doesn't love my sin. Really the gay bashing needs to stop with us christians, but people need to stop using this question as a defense against christianity
im 16, and i dont know what way to go. i do go to VBF, great church, but im not sure how to do something with MY church, which is VBF, im not sure i should talk to pastor ron. im just not sure what to do. if i get help i want to do it in a environment that i will be used to.
Ron Vietti is annointed in the holy spirit...every time I hear a sermon, I hear God speaking to my heart-EVERYTIME. (Thank you Jesus for Pastor Ron...)
I agree with you in every way. Pstor Ron is a gracious man and I cannot thank him enough for everything he has done. he has brought me closer to God and made my life so much better.
Spoken like a true born-again Christian.... and it's worthless cunts like you that make me glad I'm an atheist. Fuck religion... fuck God....and fuck you.
This was such an awesome message. I have been attending VBF Visalia since Feburary of this year and I have grown so much in christ since I started going. Praise God that God uses Pastor Ron to speak the truth.. I thank God for giving me a brand new family.. I love VBF...
If an all loving, all knowing God wrote the Bible he/she would have mentioned things that were beyond our capacity to understand, leaving no doubt in anyone's mind that he is God - and is not to be trifled with - For instance the first page would read + "The world is round, it is millions of years old and it revolves around the sun, there are nine planets in the solar system and there are seven continents on the planet" If these words were written in 200 A.D.I wouldn't question the Bible.
Thank you for blessing my heart. I think God is a wonderful and knowledgeable scientist. That is why it should come through in scripture, but it does not, and this confuses me. Is it not possible that our conception of God as it is taught to us through ancient scripture falls short of the intricate and dynamic principles of math and science? I think it would - I don't want to insult the real God by confusing him with the guy who wrote Deuteronomy 13:6. But to each its own - God bless
If the Bible was truly written by an all knowing all loving God than there would be no question as to who the author - Its contents would include secrets of the universe so complex it would be indisputable even by modern scientific standards - However there is nothing within the Bibe which defies the natural progression of human intellect through the centuries -
Skeptics require evidence. This video presents none whatsoever. Pastor Wrong's message only appeals to people who don't care about modern scientific standards of validation, or empathy for that matter. But what I wonder is "why are you right and everyone else is wrong." And please don't respond with "the Bible tells me so" I already know that! Millions of Jews, Muslims, and Mormons alike all think that they have a direct line to god but they all receive different messages. Explain this to me!
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entropy666w 1 week ago
If i were God, there would be no cancer.
beyondbeyondness 2 weeks ago
If josh was a registered sex offender he would pop up on the state's site. He is not on it.
milknot4free 3 weeks ago
@xspectrumgaming i will give you the best comment that you ever read. Someone once told me i would rather spend the rest of my life believing in god to die and find out he doesnt exist than to live the rest of my life not believing in god and find out he does exist. Do a google search of dr. Aiko hormann ministries. She is a christian and a scientist. I honestly feel that her teachings are the best and can really help you.
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga Thanks, I'll look her up. However, I don't think that one has to belong to a certain religion to go to "heaven" (or whatever afterlife awaits). For example, I'm pretty sure Gandhi is in heaven, and he wasn't Christian. In the same way, I think as long as I live my life in a moral manner, I should be good...
SpecTechHD 3 weeks ago
@remusnigga Also, I don't mean to completely undermine the faith you believe in, but the uncertainty principle can pretty much disprove any kind of intervening God. It states that until something has been observed, it both exists and doesn't exist... Which means that God (being unobserved) is nonexistent, and in turn, cannot intervene.
SpecTechHD 3 weeks ago
I have a question for christians, but they've never been able to answer me properly.
I figured that this might be a perfect way to finally get some answers : )
Have you ever considered that the Bible might be a fairytale?
No offense, but talking snakes, Adam being made out of dust, the world being flodded 2459(?)BC even though civilizations kept going like nothing happend?
+The fact that Adam and Eve, the first two people on earth, had children who married someone from a town nearby?!
Elladan24 1 month ago
@SpecTechHD I can't answer Your 3 Questions. But The More That I think about The Reality Of an Invisible Man That lives In The Clouds, and does Whatever The Hell he wants,having His Only Defense Being that It's HIS Will For OUR Lives. Crystal Meth Addiction, 9/11 Babies being Killed in Drive By shootings, a REAL Loving God Would Not Only Intervene,but NOT allow So Much Bullshit to happen. There Is No santa Clause And We are To REJECT magic nut Believe In God's magic because of some old book???
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga That's what I was afraid of... I don't necessarily want to become an atheist/deist, but I've looked everywhere for answers to things that should be simple, and haven't found anything. I don't want to turn away faith, but I certainly don't want to embrace ignorance.
xSpectrumGaming 1 month ago
I've recently become a border-line atheist. I'd like answers to questions, so please, if you can answer them, please tell me.:
Why does the Bible fail to mention homo Erectus?
How did God create the Earth and humans before the rest of the universe?
How and why does God meddle in our affairs?
SpecTechHD 1 month ago
I dare this gay dork to have a debate with a black muslim about how the holy bible and christianity is correct and say to him how the koran is garbage the muslims are a cult and louis farakhan is a false prophet that needs to get saved. HA HA HA HA!
remusnigga 3 months ago
Valley bible fellowship is a cult and ron vietti is a gay false preacher
remusnigga 3 months ago
Ron vietti was born veronica vietti. He had a sex change and later became ron. He has been divorced 4 times and josh is his stepson and is debbies son. He also let brian welch stay at his house and smoked pot with him. Some christian he is! Huh?
lasvegastroll 6 months ago
@lasvegastroll What's wrong with that? Not for me, but, hey - I ain't gonna cast the first stone.
The guy's obviously a deluded retard, though.
calmreason 3 months ago in playlist Homework 4:- Debating With Extreme Ideas?
Good job Pastor Ron. Ya got the powers of darkness riled up (I love it), here on youtube, keep up the good work. Thanks for doing what you do.
sedg1 6 months ago
Valley Bible Fellowship IS a CULT! Amen to lasvegastroll for DISCERNING This!
remusnigga 7 months ago
Lol!
is this for real?
calmreason 8 months ago
Ron Vietti is A false Preacher and Very Inexperienced and Gay Too. His valley Bible Fellowship church Is a Cult that Can't decide Which religion it wishes to be each week,as the preaching constantly changes to be more watered down,and cultic than ever before!
lasvegastroll 10 months ago
I believe in Jesus and that he was God in the flesh and is alive right now, but I do wish that Ron would use more concrete logic to explain Gods' existence, because if you think critically and logically, with human reasoning, we find that faith in an eternal creator is logical, because something cannot come from nothing, and you can't have an infinite number of creators, there must logically be a stopping point, an eternal cause who is God. It makes the most sense reasonably.
Caldari1 10 months ago
@brianwelchisaphony I'm a christian and I don't agree with some things of what he believes, but I don't think he's a cult leader.. lol. If he's a cult leader, then he's not an evil cult leader. Does your definition of a cult have a negative meaning, or can cults be positive? You can't assume things so quickly. Jesus is lord, and logic itself proves that God exists, since something cannot come from nothing; God is the creator of all empiracle and non empiracle things.
Caldari1 10 months ago
Ron Vietti is a Gay Moron and a Cult Leader!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
@Ninjajesus You Need to do Your Research! Your Dumb Questions sand comments are HIGHLY laughable!!!!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
@Ninjajesus Hindu IS a False religion and YOU are The DEMON!!!!!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
2Ninjajesus I am NOT in a CATHOLIC CHURCH!!! I serve In a Non Denominational CHRISTIAN CHURCH!!!! I have done My RESEARCH and KNOW that I am In The cORRECT Church. Jesus Christ Did NOT Start a Denomination,Nor a religion! i DO NOT ATTEND A SECT! YOU MIGHT THOUGH! I don't have an Ego! And I NEVER use The Lords Name In Vein! God allows MANY Things, Good and Bad To happen For MANY different reasons! NEVER Underestimate His Power!!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
@Ninjajesus God ALLOWED The earthquake to happen In Japan. Those People Were WARNED to leave,but Chose to Stay! JUST LIKE IN NEW ORLEANS! When God Gives a COMMAND,YOU NEED TO LISTEN!!!!!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
@Chaps1008 I am a Pastor. And I can actually tell You that I Have No Proof that There Is a God. But I act Like there is. As far as molestation etc. etc. it is sad that it happens, BUT If God were there to PREVENT EVERY bad thing from ever happening then we Wouldn't have the gift of free will to use Now would we?
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
@brianwelchisaphony So god can't prevent every bad thing from happening because we wouldn't have free will? How would we not have free will?
So if an earthquake kills thousands of people in Japan, and if god had stopped it, that would be infringing on our free will? How? That makes no sense.
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
@ninjajesus81 That Is God ALLOWING It to Happen For Those That STILL choose To have Their Families AND CHILDREN attend the Catholic Church,and Her FALSE Teachings!
brianwelchisaphony 11 months ago
@brianwelchisaphony Whatever denomination you're a part of, there's molestation happening in it too.
You have the arrogance to think that you not only chose the correct religion, but you also chose the correct SECT within that religion? Do you really have that big of an ego?
Why is your sect of Christianity the correct one? Because you're a member? That's pretty god damn arrogant.
I also love how god allows molestation to happen on the INNOCENT children for their parent's mistake.
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
Ron vietti allows his son josh to occasionally pastor the childrens ministry and minister to teens about drugs. Even though josh is a registered sex offender that smokes weed. If you ask pastor ron he will get defensive and say yeah well god delivered him from that or who are you to judge? I have friends that go there and they keep tabs on him.
brianwelchisaphony 1 year ago
I have been going to VBF for about two years now and Pastor Ron and everyone at VBF has had such a profound impact on me. The church has changed me for theb etter. Pastor Ron is an AWESOME pastor. I felt at home there THE VERY FIRST DAY! I'd never dream of going anywhere else! It's certainly not a cult. I am a very faithful attender of every Wednesday night and Sunday morning. Would never go anywhere else.
quincycat15 1 year ago
Ron vietti needs to repent of his homosexual tendencies and for twisting scripture. And valley bible fellowship is one of the biggest cults there is. Please do not attend there or give them any money. Thank you.
brianwelchisaphony 1 year ago
@brianwelchisaphony Where did you get your information about Pastor Ron from? Please inform me.
chaps1008 1 year ago
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brianwelchisaphony 1 year ago
@devoted2him1 I Am 36 Years Old,and a Cgristian. Pastor Ron Talks EXTREMELY gay,and His Message Bored me to Death. The Staff There Were Worse Than The Italian Mafia! They Through Me Out,and Never extended ANY Type Of Grace. Worst Church I have EVER been To In My Life! So sad That You are a member of Their CULT!
lasvegastroll 1 year ago
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Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?-James 4:11-12
letsdanceinthecab 1 year ago
Ron vietti is such a gay heretic cult leader of valley bible fellowship it surprises me that he is not a senior pastor at metropolitan community church i rebuke him and his cult both in the name of jesus christ. Amen.
brianwelchisaphony 1 year ago
@brianwelchisaphony
"Do not accuse a man for no reason--when he has done you no harm" proverbs 3:30
If that's how you feel about pastor Ron please keep it to yourself and do not gossip.
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor." <--- one of the ten commandments
devoted2him1 1 year ago
In 2000 years there's not been one trace of evidence for the existence of god. What does that say?
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 in 2000 years there has not been one person to disprove the idea that there is a God! We'll see who's right!!
chaps1008 1 year ago
@chaps1008 It's impossible to disprove god exists because god is supposedly magical and can stay hidden no matter how hard we look.
But you can say that about Zeus and Thor and Shiva. It applies to all gods, not just the one you worship. But it applies to any fictional character you can think of. No one has ever disproven that there's a Spiderman. No one has ever disproven that there are Pokemon. Your argument that it's never been disproven is obviously pointless.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 When I get on my knees and pray to my God my prayers get answered I call that a miracle. When I ask my God to help me through a situation I may be going through He does! He's never let me down because I believe that He is real. I talk to HIm and He replies! Call me crazy I don'e care! I know He lives! Challenge my theory and open your mind to the surreal. Who's open minded? The one who says He doesn't exist or the one who looked outside the box to try and find out?
chaps1008 1 year ago
@chaps1008 If I flip a coin and ask god to make it land on heads, and it lands on heads, was my prayer answered? Maybe. Or maybe it was just a 50/50 chance and I got lucky.
I could have asked Spiderman to make it land on heads and would have gotten the same result.
If I prayed to Spiderman to make a coin land on heads, and it does, would it be open minded of me to say that THAT is confirmation of Spiderman's existence? No, that's closed minded.
The way you think is closed minded.
ninjajesus81 1 year ago
@ninjajesus81 When your driving down the highway and you barely miss an 18 wheeler would you consider that luck of God having mercy on you? When your little boy is getting molested by a young man and you happen to have a dream about it and end up convicting the guy would you call THAT luck? Or would you call that a miracle? I have tested your way of thinking and it did nothing for me! I never felt more alone in my life! Now test my theory. Try both ends and then argue with me!
chaps1008 1 year ago
@chaps1008 If I'm driving and a truck almost hits me, then it's neither luck, nor God. If I was lucky, I wouldn't be nearly having wrecks.
And you can't say it's God, because people get killed by trucks all the time. So this makes as much sense as my coin example.
Would I call it a miracle that your little boy is getting molested? No, I wouldn't.
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
@ninjajesus81 Wouldn't the little boy getting molested fall under the molesters free will?? I do call it a miracle because it was stopped. And yes you are right that people die everyday in car accidents but if by chance I die in a car accident then I am reassured that I will be with my God on that day so what a relief for me! I have peace of mind every time I get into my car. God Bless you and Ill be praying for you!
chaps1008 11 months ago
@chaps1008 So the little boy being molested is unavoidable because the molester has free will? No. Even with free will, your god can keep situations from existing where little kids will be molested. But it happens. It happens because there's no god to stop it from happening.
How many kids get molested for years and nothing happens?
And you want to call it God's good grace that someone stopped one kid from getting molested FURTHER?
You have no idea what it is to be rational.
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
@ninjajesus81 In my Bible it says that my God will not interfere with a persons free will. So if a person chooses to molest a child then that is their free will. Doesn't make the act right. My God will not stop a person from doing whatever it is they are going to do. Kids get molested because of stupid parents that choose not to protect them and as for my story. If a woman is a strong believer in her God prays for them everyday then her God is going to watch over them. HENSE THE DREAM!!!
chaps1008 11 months ago
@chaps1008 So God won't interfere with a person's free will, but you're missing my point. God doesn't have to interfere with free will to make situations not occur where kids will be in positions to get molested.
How many people prayed for their children every day, and sent their children to be with clergymen to inevitably get molested by them?
Are you saying they didn't pray hard enough? That they didn't REALLY believe? You've got all the bases covered with that cop out.
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
@ninjajesus81 you know all I can tell you is what I know from personal experience. I know that I pray for my family and they are doing just fine. I know that I have lived in a world with no God and it was the worst thing I have ever done. I know that I have personally seen and dealt with demons. Try my way of thinking and seek my God and maybe you'll see one day? But don't tell me that He doesn't exist if you have never made the effort to find Him. Im praying for you. Need something, Im here.
chaps1008 11 months ago
@chaps1008 So you pray for your family and they're doing just fine? That passes as proof for you?
How many Hindus pray to Shiva and their families are just fine? Lots. How many Muslims do the same thing? How many pagans do it? Do all of those gods exist just because their families are doing fine?
I don't believe you've actually seen a real demon. I think you're just calling it a demon, when it was probably just some crazy person. Or maybe you're hallucinating.
How do I seek your god? Tell me.
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
@ninjajesus81 And before you go criticizing other peoples religions why don't you test it out for yourself and actually have some fact about what you are speaking. You have all of these conclusions about Christianity being false but what research have you done besides listening to what other atheists have to say about it? If you truly think the is no God then you should have no problem testing it. According to you its false anyways so you don't have to worry about converting to Christianity.
chaps1008 11 months ago
@chaps1008 How can I test if god exists? Flip a coin and ask god to make it land on heads, and if it lands on heads, I can conclude god exists?
There is no testing it. I've read the Bible. It's horrible. The Bible itself gives me every indication I need that there's at least no Christian god. All the other religions are just as ridiculous, if not more ridiculous.
So tell me, how do I test if a god exists?
And which god am I testing? And how do you know which god it is?
ninjajesus81 11 months ago
Jeremiah Chapter 23 verse 2 YOU have Caused ME to scatter Pastor Ron Vietti! And So Did about 9 Staff Members Of Your Church! I rebuke You and Your Valley Bible Fellowship CULT In The Mighty Name Of Jesus! AMEN!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
John 17:21-23 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: 23 I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.
If we have a problem with someone we shouldn't riducule, but love them and pray for them.
juststoppingbye 1 year ago
@Lilskeezy1000 Valley Bible Fellowship IS a Total and Complete CULT! Pastor Ron Vietti is Very Gay and The message He Preaches is Very boring. The Music is Sacrilige and The Italian Mafia staff Love to argue when People point out errors in their watered down bent and twisted interpretation of the Bible. They DO NOT EXTEND GRACE OR WELCOME BACK BACKSLIDERS WITH OPEN ARMS! ABSOLUTELY THE WORST CHURCH ON THIS PLANET TODAY!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
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I dont know what service you went to but it probably wasn't pastor ron or valley bible bc i've never been to such a god filled church.OUr church accepts anyone and everyone. From our prison ministry to our porn convention ministry vbf will always welcomes anyone whose willing to hear God's word.
I'm only eighteen years old, and i've experienced a lot of churches but Pastor Ron has really broke through to me.
devoted2him1 1 year ago
@lasvegasdaril Where do you get your information on Valley Bible being a cult?? Is that your opinion? Or is there some logic behind that? I attend that church and it is the best church I have ever been to! Im not brain washed and Im not attending a cult either! I have backslid at times and they welcomed me with open arms! Where are you getting this information. Please let me know and God Bless you!!
chaps1008 1 year ago
Im very very dissapointed in some of the comments i have read here. People say the church is a "cult", "horrible", ect. If you were really a son or daughter of god you would not be spending your time on this website posting such horrible comments. You dont have to agree with OUR church. And when i say "OUR" i mean yours to, the people upset at the church. We will always welcome you with open arms. The people that go to that church are christians. idc about their personal life.
LilSkeezy1000 1 year ago 3
God is a necessity of persons no matter if they believe on God really or don't, faith and religion aren't the same thing necessarily. I think that currently the churches are full of people whom say "I trust on God" but they don't trust on God really, they need to God only as excuse for feeling well. I am son of pastor, and I am trying to teach to my son how avoid marry with this kind of women "of the church". Thief is thief, What's this kind of women or man who pretend to be what she/he isn't.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@LilSkeezy1000 By the way, keep in mind Church is the assembly of true believers within whom Holy Spirit lives, this concept doesn't has direct relation with the institution called "church".
Leivinn20 1 year ago
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@LilSkeezy1000 "If you were really a son or daughter of god..." since there's no god, what point are you trying to make?
calmreason 3 months ago in playlist Homework 4:- Debating With Extreme Ideas?
He's not mentally unstable. He just obviously loves what he does and there's nothing wrong with it. I listen to his sermons on the radio and have not once heard him preach something wrong or negative. He states the truth according to the bible and references it regularly. What I find hilarious is the fact that people watch this and get angry enough to leave their own two cent comments. Find something better to do.
tmantonic 1 year ago
The Mentally Unstable one here is Ron Vietti and His Valley Bible Fellowship CULT!!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
I have Attended Services at this CULT Before And Listened to Your BORING FEMININE CULT LEADER PASTOR RON VIETTI preach about Ba baseball Hitting His Car Window had Brought Him To Church,yadda yadda yadaa amongst other bent twisted and watered down non bilical garbage,and I have to say,That i was Totally and Completely Unimpressed. they Even Support The Cult "Promise Keepers" at There Church,along with "Purpose Driven" Music affiliated With CULT member Rick Warren! HORRIBLE CHURCH!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
@Babylsaac09 It saddens Me that You have been Deceived by Valley Bible Fellowship. Can You HONESTLY say that You can't see That The MAJORITY of attendees there,are living the Homosexual or Bisexual Lifestyle? Can't You hear That Ron Vietti talks VERY feminine? That Loud screaming Heavy Metal music That They Have is TOTAL sacrilige! They teaching is a Mixture of disciple of Christ,Evangelical,and Pentecostal. NOT Non Denominational Christianity! A VERY Boring Message Preached 2 a Horrible Church!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
@lasvegasdaril you know what i dont care what you say, Ron is a great man that follows the word. Who are we to judge this man? Pastor Ron Vietti is a good man and valley bible has a great program going on and if it wasn't for them i would be on drugs still and living in the world.
BabyIsaac09 1 year ago
why does everyone have something negative to say?
i go to the bakersfield campus and this ISN'T a cult,
no one has to go to THIS church, its a choice to go to this church.
and if you just have something bad to say go watch another video.
BabyIsaac09 1 year ago
@BabyIsaac09 I agree! as do I! :) i also attend and LOVE IT!! :D
APPLEHEAD2009 1 year ago
I went to Their Las Vegas Church,before God Gave Me enough Discernment to see that they are NOT NOT NOT a Non Denominational Christian Church,like They CLAIM to be. They are a Disciple of Christ/Pentecoastal Church. EVERYONE here is Bisexual,and The Heavy Metal Guitar Music Is Loud and sacrilige. The People In Authority are EXTREMELY rude control freaks,and The Church is VERY Cultic,and Cliquish! Ron Vietti will BORE You to death with His Bent twisted and watered Down Preaching. He is BORING!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, Lord of the Rings is much better. No Ents or Hobbits in the Bible. Is this joker for real? Your kid gets cancer and you have an audience with god. If he said that to me with a sick kid he would deny god after half an hour. Absolute joke! Go to a childrens hospice and spout your claptrap there, dummy! Did god not create the disease or the cell malfunction in the first place? Warped dangerous idiots.
jgsouter 1 year ago
The new testament, Isn't that the book that starts of with a contradiction? Mattheus' geneology vs lucas' geneology??? but hey who the fuck am I right? funny thing is, this guy studied the bible and he doesn't see it, and I only glanced at it.
Christians are nutcases
OprVer 1 year ago
Their Doctrine,Theology,And Beleifs are WAYYYYYYYYYY off! HORRIBLE CHURCH,and EVEN WORSE MUSIC!!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
Is Valley Bible Fellowship a Cult? YES! Is Ron Vietti an Unrepentant Bisexual Who Is On His way To hell? YES! I rebuke Valley Bible Fellowship AND Ron Vietti in Jesus Name! AMEN!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
I was there for this Easter Sunday!
LittleMrsMiddleton 1 year ago
Way to go Pastor Ron!
KHancey1 1 year ago
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KHancey1 1 year ago
So the skeptics watched this then? by all the comments below, that's what I'm gathering. So what happens if you guys are all wrong? I guess we'll find out someday won't we?!
KHancey1 1 year ago
Is Ron Vietti a Bisexual Heretic? Yes! Is Valley Bible Fellowship a Cult? Yes! WOW! I JUST ANSWERED BOTH OF MY QUESTIONS! AMEN!
lasvegasdaril 1 year ago
Ron Vietti talks like a Girl. The Music at his church is Loud Heavy Metal Sacrelige and The Message He Preaches is watered down bent and twisted Pentecostal Doctrine that Will Bore You Half to Death. AMEN To EVERYBODY That Exposes this Jackass False Preacher.
lasvegasdaril 2 years ago
Great point mjbruce! I just saw a Nat Geo special about a fossil they got off of the top of Mount Everest. I don't know how people still think the world is 3,000 years old, Scary isn't it?
whatisdrunkal 2 years ago
so atheists are evil? not really. they don't need a book to tell them how to live! plllleeeessse!
bababybwoo 2 years ago
this is for skeptics? where's the evidence?
bababybwoo 2 years ago
Good video Pastor Ron.
sedg1 2 years ago
mjbruce86- you wrote "Potassium-40 has a half life of 1.3 billion years, Uranium -235 of 704 million years and Rubidium-87 of 48 billion years".
Pffft! you, nor anyone else can prove your numbers correct, it's nothing but speculation.
sedg1 2 years ago
@sedg1 Speculation? Shut t up. It's an OBSERVABLE fact, just like studying evolution on fruit flies. But no amount of evidence can convince you, right? Jesus rode on dinosaurs and the New World didn't exist until it was discovered by Christopher Columbus. All the Indians are in hell because they didn't have a chance to believe in Jesus. Poor bastards. I better burn all my science books before God finds out I've been thinking again.
whatisdrunkal 1 year ago
mjbruce86, you stated "Radio-isotope dating is accurate enough to differentiate between 30 and 75 million years old specimens".
That is a lie, and an unprovable one at that. Try again?
sedg1 2 years ago
Hope he doesn't decide to pray something dangerous away.... what would you say would happen if he got a dose of cancer? would it be praying...or would you say he'd dust off those health insurance policies?
MumblingMickey 2 years ago
This guy is not actually giving any answers for skeptics... instead he he reading from the bible... now if I were skeptical, atheist or agnostic...would you say reading from the bible would be the proof I would need?
pffft! Answers Smancers... this is Dogmatic trash
MumblingMickey 2 years ago
Science can't prove God because God created science, He created everything! How can God live in you, God can do anything, He created you so I gues if he wants to live in you he will. God loves you so love him back!
TheJustinwilhite 2 years ago
as with many comments here, this guy's a joke. how does god live in a house & in you. can anyone give me science behind this. iam rational & reasonable person. show me.
nonthiestnc 2 years ago
mjbruce86 - how do you know that fossil is 75 million years old and not just 30 million years old? That's right, you don't.
sedg1 2 years ago
You really are blind aren't you
frogmanh 2 years ago
i was wondering what is your definition of a cult? i have never noticed anything strange about VBF.
jennie41806 2 years ago
I think its at about 1:38 when he says "if one of your loved ones gets sick" god will fix it, of course not in those words but that was the message. Unfortunately this is not true, there was a little girl who died from a diabetic coma because her parents sat by her side praying when they could have taken her to hospital and saved her life. They clearly had faith because they bet their daughters life on it. Preaching this false message is evidently dangerous.
LETZZERO 2 years ago
how do you know?
superjam18 2 years ago
I attended this service. It was my first and last service at VBF. This was an Easter service. I attended with a friend because I thought it was going to be a celebration about Jesus and his resurrection. Why was this skeptic topic brought up on Easter? The place was packed with 3500 people and the remote subjects of Bill Maher, skeptics and gays going to hell were points of his sermon? WHY? I was there for EASTER. It seems like the "cool" church is a cult church. May God bless you all.
bakoreject 2 years ago
Its true alot of people go to church on Easter to celebrate Gods resurrection. But in reality, as Christians and believers shouldn't we be celebrating that everyday? "Easter" in fact has changed many times in history and its origins are from secular Greek culture.
If God would have came down to earth that day to just to speak to us, it wouldn't have been to celebrate his resurrection, it would have been to educate us and share ways on how to deal with the secular world.
GodBless
horrorkid 2 years ago
God bless you pastor Ron,you my brother from another mother are a blessing.
cliftongs 2 years ago 2
this is evidence that the holy spirit is working through pastor Ron.favor is what he has.we should all pray for that.the devil is real and he does not want you here.search your hart.
cliftongs 2 years ago
Cool! Believing in the christian god is cool! Wow, this guy is an idiot (bless his heart.)
What are his arguments, what is his evidence?
This video will be destroyed by justifiably critical commentators...
waspoftruth 2 years ago
first of all,valley bible fellowship is a cult. your senior pastor,ron vietti,talks like a girl,and his teachings are boring,and unscriptual. several homosexual heretics,attend your church,and they aren't getting any better. evolution created everything,and society created the idea of god,in a book written a long time ago. the main reason that people do not go,or stop going to church,is because the people at the church,act like their shit don't stink,and constantly badger people for money.
billybobwhite1 2 years ago
I'm having trouble believing that a god will deny you an eternity of happiness because you don't believe and worship him, even if you were good to others
IF god existed, would he have that big an ego?
nhmllr725 2 years ago
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It's about accepting His gift of eternal life through Jesus' attonement.....
""" For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. John 3:16-17"""
sedg1 2 years ago
Does god love gay people?
TechWorxs 2 years ago
yes he does. He doesn't love their sin just like he doesn't love my sin. Really the gay bashing needs to stop with us christians, but people need to stop using this question as a defense against christianity
dunceyourself 2 years ago
im 16, and i dont know what way to go. i do go to VBF, great church, but im not sure how to do something with MY church, which is VBF, im not sure i should talk to pastor ron. im just not sure what to do. if i get help i want to do it in a environment that i will be used to.
MassiveRS 2 years ago
Ron Vietti is annointed in the holy spirit...every time I hear a sermon, I hear God speaking to my heart-EVERYTIME. (Thank you Jesus for Pastor Ron...)
robertbandajr 2 years ago
I agree with you in every way. Pstor Ron is a gracious man and I cannot thank him enough for everything he has done. he has brought me closer to God and made my life so much better.
elizabethanich 2 years ago
Spoken like a true born-again Christian.... and it's worthless cunts like you that make me glad I'm an atheist. Fuck religion... fuck God....and fuck you.
41elliott 2 years ago
"if you dont grow up a man or woman of god, you're going to get shot and/or stab someone..."
he says he's not using scare tactics yet he says this...
TaaaylorJ 2 years ago
No I think what he's saying is the path you send your kids on will define their future. Keep in mind his church is in a gangland.
He has many former gang members in his congregation.
dunceyourself 2 years ago
This guy is pathetic......Religion is nothing but a pathetic mind-virus.
41elliott 2 years ago
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and youre a pathetic piece of shit.
elizabethanich 2 years ago
Benjamin FranklinThe way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason
whatisdrunkal 2 years ago
You keep believing, I'll keep evolving
whatisdrunkal 2 years ago
man paster Ron is the best. I went to second service on this easter!!!!!!!!!!!!! this chursh is the best!!!!!!!!
crapadotol 2 years ago
This was such an awesome message. I have been attending VBF Visalia since Feburary of this year and I have grown so much in christ since I started going. Praise God that God uses Pastor Ron to speak the truth.. I thank God for giving me a brand new family.. I love VBF...
scarecrow559 2 years ago
I enjoyed the service. I enjoyed it so much i came back today! Thank you VBF for making me and my family feel welcome and helping me learn the word.
MomOfFour661 2 years ago
If an all loving, all knowing God wrote the Bible he/she would have mentioned things that were beyond our capacity to understand, leaving no doubt in anyone's mind that he is God - and is not to be trifled with - For instance the first page would read + "The world is round, it is millions of years old and it revolves around the sun, there are nine planets in the solar system and there are seven continents on the planet" If these words were written in 200 A.D.I wouldn't question the Bible.
whatisdrunkal 2 years ago
bless your heart but the Bible is not a science book.
crisb81 2 years ago
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whatisdrunkal 2 years ago
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Thank you for blessing my heart. I think God is a wonderful and knowledgeable scientist. That is why it should come through in scripture, but it does not, and this confuses me. Is it not possible that our conception of God as it is taught to us through ancient scripture falls short of the intricate and dynamic principles of math and science? I think it would - I don't want to insult the real God by confusing him with the guy who wrote Deuteronomy 13:6. But to each its own - God bless
whatisdrunkal 2 years ago
If the Bible was truly written by an all knowing all loving God than there would be no question as to who the author - Its contents would include secrets of the universe so complex it would be indisputable even by modern scientific standards - However there is nothing within the Bibe which defies the natural progression of human intellect through the centuries -
whatisdrunkal 2 years ago
Skeptics require evidence. This video presents none whatsoever. Pastor Wrong's message only appeals to people who don't care about modern scientific standards of validation, or empathy for that matter. But what I wonder is "why are you right and everyone else is wrong." And please don't respond with "the Bible tells me so" I already know that! Millions of Jews, Muslims, and Mormons alike all think that they have a direct line to god but they all receive different messages. Explain this to me!
whatisdrunkal 2 years ago
Loved this service! put some of the party on here!!!
Emthrax 2 years ago
"one nit wit puts something and then everybody else copies it and everyone thinks its true and they don't do their research" 2:10
Amen haha
caseymsawyer 2 years ago
I've been listening to Ron for quite some time on CSN. Nice to see a recording of a service
ScrawnyRonnie 2 years ago
Thats Cool!!! ScrawnyRonnie! Im glad these videos are being posted too! Praise The Lord!
ValleyBibleGirl 2 years ago