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  • It pains me to realize I will never see the day when a video like this gets zero dislikes.

  • clearly sloth0876 de-evolved. My proof, look at his rewritten definition to theory.

  • @sydtocreation Continually correcting people like you...on oberservable things...on videos that explain the things they are arguing...

  • Silly fool, you have been deluded. What you see is actually backwards. Devolution is taking place, not evolution. People started off perfect. Some mixed with apes, then some mixed with those descendants, and so forth. It's called DEvolution. In the end, the pure untouched will be the chosen few. That is pure, as in pure white!

  • @Jim777ism You understand that the basis of speciation is that viable offspring cannot be derived between species right? Man never mixed with apes. If there were prodgeny created, they were still genetically close enough to be considered the same species. The first man has been genetically tracked to africa...as in, not white. DEvolution makes no sense in any scientific context. the process does not go backwards, only forwards...if it is viable, it will procreate.

  • @sloth0876 Part 1 of 2: You have no proof to back up your claim. Do some research and don't be so close-minded that your brain cannot consider other possibilites. Evolution is a theory. A theory is only a possiblity which has not been proven yet as fact. As for your statement "man never mixes with apes": there is always a chance that a freak of nature can be created, as rabbit/cat, dog/lion, zebra/horse, etc.

  • @Jim777ism Please show me one example of a rabbit/cat, dog/lion....zebra horse...maybe...at least those two are part of the same genus (Equus).. When you mix a female horse and a male donkey, you get a sterile mule...not a donkey. Donkeys are a different species that can reproduce independently. Gravity is a theory also...perhaps you should ignore the evidence for that also.

  • @sloth0876 Freaks of nature do indeed happen. You may research news and/or science articles yourself. The resulting offspring are not always sterile.

  • @sloth0876 Part 2 of 2: These things have happened and only some of them (such as donkeys) are incapable of re-breeding. Devolution DOES make sense --it makes a lot of sense, because it's what is really happening here. Not everyone is devolving, only some people are. Others are remaining pure.

  • @Jim777ism Man did not, nor can they mix with modern great apes. We are genetically similar, but the fusion of human chromosome 2 makes it impossible. The rest of the great apes have 48 chromosomes while humans sit at 46 (23 pairs). Now, considering this is the stuff i work with daily..do you have any more questions? Devolution is in fact the same process you are disputing. Devolution, from what i can gather, is the accumulation of unwanted traits...which is a different argument.

  • @sloth0876 There is much more information out there than you realize. I have no questions for you. I am here to tell you that devolution is what is happening here. The "unwanted traits" you speak of are something which really cannot be defined anyway...as, "unwanted" is a personal preference and is not scientific. It would not be happening if somebody out there didn't want it to happen -- or if the masses didn't follow the orders. And, frankly, "unwanted" may be something considered racist!

  • @Jim777ism The argument you are starting stems from the ability to overcome natural selection...it doesnt mean evolution doesnt exist, we just have taken the working mechanism away.

  • @sloth0876 I understand your thoughts. Now, think of what you've said here: "...overcome natural selection"; another term for what you are saying is "against nature". And, what working mechanism have we taken away? Think about that deeply.

  • @Jim777ism Unwanted as in not beneficial in nature. Natural selection is the working mechanism of evolution. We, as humans, have taken this away with modern technology and medicine. We keep people alive when they should be dead, and protect them from the natural elements that killed our ancestors. Devolution, or the breakdown or reversal of evolution you speak of still does not exist. As you said, the devolution you are speaking of cannot be defined. It is still evolutionary process.

  • @sloth0876

    Faggot.

  • @Jim777ism :

    You are the silly deluded fool, There is no such thing as DEevolution

  • @CryoKatana97 dev·o·lu·tion (dv-lshn, dv-)

    n.

    1. A passing down or descent through successive stages of time or a process

  • ....... You need more mutations for that. So, what are the odds of getting three mutations in a row? That’s one in a billion trillion (1021). Suddenly, the ocean isn’t big enough to hold enough bacteria to make it likely for you to find a bacterium with three simultaneous or sequential related mutations.

  • @j919or Bull. See Ainulindale21's beyond reasonable doubt vid.

  • The mathematical problem for evolution comes when you want a series of related mutations. The odds of getting two mutations that are related to one another is the product of the separate probabilities:one in 107 x 107, or 1014. That’s a one followed by 14 zeroes,a hundred trillion! Any two mutations might produce no more than a fly with a wavy edge on a bent wing.That’s a long way from producing a truly new structure, and certainly a long way from changing a fly into some new kind of organism...

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  • "Sex is something of an embarrassment ot evolutiuonary biologists. Textbooks understandably skirt the issue, keeping it a closely guarded secret" K. McAuliffe, "Why We Have Sex", OMNI, Dec. 1983. pg 18.

  • @j919or Come on, kiddo, I really want my questions answered. Don't puss out on me. You're the all-knowing one here, so let's hear some answers.

  • Evolution doesnt WORK. This is all speculation, manipulation of the data to arrive at a particular conclusion..

    Things are the way they are bc God made them that way. The evolution simply says that things are the way they are bc they evolved. Evolutionists take adaptation and call it evolution. Adaptation is evidence of design not evolution. Adaptation involves no mutations. Mutations always decrease info and a series of decreases is never beneficial.

  • @j919or Yes, the Flying Spaghetti Monster made them that way. You can't prove the FSM is not the one true God.

  • @j919or This is an example I show children to help them understand the concept that still goes over your head. Adaptation is what drives evolution...the summation of small change over generations. i.i m gu r.c o m / xW p vw .j pg P.S. if you dont understand why getting a flu shot involves evolution...you really dont understand what evolution is, and is not.

  • @sloth0876 Adaptation is what drives evolution..""

    Nah. Mutations and natural selection drive evolution. Unless you are admitting gross error. The flu virus mutates and becomes resistent to drugs. These mutations are beneificial in that a decrease in information becomes resistent to antibodies. Small pox dont mutate and one vaccine does it for life. This is hardly evolution but merely change.

  • @j919or S.M.H....so close yet so very far. Natural selection hinges on what is most fit...which is directly related to adaptation (which are derived from mutation). Flu virus doesnt decrease its genetic information to become resistant to anything. Genetic mutation makes the virus undetectable to antibodies by recombination in the protein coat. Logic...you are going against 100 years of fortified observable evidence with logic? Good call.

  • where did sex come from/ and where did life come from? Neither could evolve. this dude is a liar and the masses are easily deceived for they believe the experts , uncritically.

    Lizards adapted not from mutations but from the complexity already in the gene. that is proof that evolution is not true. 30 years is not enough time for mutations to cause change.

  • @j919or Ever heard of F pili and plasmids? The exchange of genetic recombination is seen in single cell organsims...sex isnt complicated.  And yes...30 years is enough time given a short enough generational time. We have single cell organisms that live ONLY off of man made products (nylonase) in less than 70 years...

  • @sloth0876 "'sex isnt complicated""

    The evolution of sex is impossible. The drive to reporduce and even the drive for survival are mysteries. Why would an animals want to survive? Why reproduce and raise the young?

  • @j919or Already addressed with fpili and plasmids. How do you think the process works? One species does not birth another, there is no difinitive mark between 2 species. Summation of adaptation and mutation is what drives speciation. Mutations dont always decrease information...please add a citation. Its a commonality...do you recall before you were born? No? Then what brings you to believe you will comprehend anything after death.

  • @sloth0876 ""do you recall before you were born?""

    This logic simply states that if u had a start u must have an end. God created the eternal soul in man and evidence of this is that man craves purpose and purpose is eliminated if our lives only last a short time and are not ongoing.

    What does anything matter if tomorrow we die and are forgotten?

  • @j919or What purpose does man have? It is personally derived. We have the purpose we create for ourselves...nothing more. What changes if we die tommorow? Nothing. As for your math, again, smh...mutation dont have to be related..there is no purpose of evolution, no end to the game. We show time and time again that you can naturally select to bring out traits (the foundation of the theory) yet you deny this can happen in nature. As stated before, speciation is nothing more than summation.

  • @j919or Life has evolved for over 3 billion years, not 30 years.

    Evolution promotes variation and sex provided that so it has been around ever since single cells exchanged DNA.

  • @gregrutz Thats easy to say but difficult to support. You said u witnessed evolution in 30 years. Thats called adaptation and if comes from info already present, not from mutations. Just as u adapted/evolved from a sperm and an egg in 9 month. No mutations involved there either.

    Youve been sold a scam and u bought it bc u like the idea of evil independence from God. Such independence is called hell, are u sure thats what u want?

  • In the same way, you cant fix evolutionists despite the evidence for creation and the irreducable complexity of life because you ...CANT FIX STUPID!

  • If man came from apes like Lemurs then why are there still monkeys like chimps still around ? My father was a man of god and not a dirty animal. Everyone is like a flame that be lit for ever in the face of god in his dream and will.

    EVILution is just a theory meaning it is an unproven and unaccepted guess made by the elite that call them self scientist so they can bend the moral will of the people of god.

    Satan and you will not trick the open minded people into breeding with apes.

  • @ungenanntopffl if I told you that god isn't real because time travel isn't possible you might be feeling close to what everyone else feels reading that.

    Let me start with the easy one, evolution is a scientific theory not a random idea someone had. You see a scientific theory (like gravity) is something observed and proven that ALSO has an explanation that fits. By attacking evolution this way, all you are doing is showing that you are ignorant.

    Every single thing you said wrong. Read a book.

  • @ungenanntopffl It's good to see ppl like you stand up for creationism. It helps rational ppl see just how insane creationists are. Evolution isn't a theory. It's a fact. Do you think gravity is just a theory because it's called the theory of gravity? Your imaginary friend in the sky is just that - imaginary. And your attempts to discredit the natural biological order of life on earth only proves you are uneducated.

  • @ungenanntopffl The fact that you used that argument shows how little you know about what evolution is, and is not. We did not come from apes, we have a common ancestor. Gravity is a theory, Go jump off of a bridge to test it. Using the bible as a moral book is ridiculous. It condones genocide, hatred, bigotry, infanticide, sexism, murder, and incest...and you want to take the moral high ground? Cool story bro. Accepting the evidence for evolution is nothing more than accepting reality.

  • @sloth0876 Mutations dont increase order/information, they decrease it. Natural selection doesnt build, it doestroys. Any evolution that we see now is adaptation. Adaptation doesnt involve mutations. Adaptation results from the information that is already programmed into the gene and proves design. Evolution is a theory that is proven wrong. Prove that God "condones" the things u listed.

  • @strengthinweakness1 Point frame shift mutations shuffle while gene duplication does indeed add genomic information. Natural selection doesnt do either, traits that are beneficial are more likely to be passed to progeny, nothing more, nothing less. As for adaptation, is that how there are bacteria that solely live off of nylonase? Its crazy how bacteria can adapt to only eat a manmade product in as little as 50 years. All of this can be learned on day one of biology 101, and be shown to u

  • @sloth0876 Show me a quote from any scientist that says that mutations increase information.

    Why are there no 2,3,4,5 celled organisms/transitional forms?

    Where did life come from?

    Its crazy that any of us can even reason and think logically and that there are 100 billion electrical connections in every brain. Its crazy that u think all this complexity comes from nothing. Its reasonable to believe in an infinite creator.

  • @strengthinweakness1 They dont, but genetic shuffling, recombonation, and the adding of information (that you say doesnt exist, but is very well documented through error) are what drives evolution.

    Every single progeny is a transitional form in the sense you are looking for, one species does not birth another. They use the same line of animal, but thousands of years apart to show how they change.

    Abiogenesis and evolution are two different things. Evolution does not cover origins.

  • @sloth0876 ""genetic shuffling, recombonation""

    All guess work to shade ur conscience from the inevitable. The other proponents of evolution that believed that life evolved were as sure as you were about ur hoax

  • @j919or Can you please explain to me what you believe dna is? Guess work, are you serious? Do you understand how haploid gametes work, or how you even got here? We understand reproduction quite well, and i was only referencing that. dna is NOT a defined code...it is horribly redundant, and many different combinations synthesize the same protein. You are nothing more than a unique series of adenine, guanine, cytosine, and thymine. 

  • @sloth0876 ""nothing more than""

    You are nothing more than a puppet of satan that will exist forever in outerdarkness and misery.

    The utterly overwhelming complexity of the universe is something that you wont admit to even though ur guru R Dawkins readily admits to it. DNA are information inside of a cell that you are hoping and guessing and wishing are sufficient to mode and form the human brain which consists of 100 billion electircal connections all working together in harmony.

  • @j919or Citation needed...bring proof of satan. Complexity doesnt beget a designer. Again, can you explain how you think the impulses and potentials work in the brain...again...not harmonic in any sense.

  • @strengthinweakness1 Yes. It was the magic sky man. Dont look to nature to look at genetic similarities and see how complexity arises through speciation, time, and documentation. Bring a single shred of objective proof for a god and maybe somebody would take you serious. So what were your credentials in evolutionary biology again, since you seem to be so knowledgeable...you even post in a public place about how sure you are. You literally dont know the first thing about evolution.

  • @sloth0876 "'Dont look to nature ""

    Define nature.

    I can bring any proof that the close minded would accept.

    Darwin thought that life came thru evolution.He was wrong.Slowly the theory is falling apart. Meantime tell me about two,three, four and five celled organisms that should be transitional to 20+ celled organisms.Yet are non existent

    Tell me about rapid burial or soft bodied fossils and trees and animals that run cross-strata

    Face it u know ur evil and in denial of it and God

  • @j919or Ever heard of sarcasm? All you have to do is look at the fossil record. Darwin wasnt wholly correct becuase he didnt have the knowledge of genetics that we currently hold, but thats how science works, it builds upon itself. And again, you are confusing abiogenesis with evolution...darwin didnt say evolution caused life, nor is anybody who actually understand the theory. Evolution is not "falling apart" by any stretch of the imagination, and i use it daily..

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  • @sloth0876 ""All you have to do is look at the fossil record""

    And we find overwelming evidence of a young earth and rapid burial of fossils there. Yet u will search for a location that doesnt contain this evidence, find it, and quickly form the unsubstantiated conclusion that that is proof of slow gradual formation of fossils by sediments.

    Evolution is not falling apart quickly bc u clowns defend it to the death just like u defended Darwins formation of life theories to the death.

  • @j919or U sure? Basically all the geologists ive talked to, who work with it every day, say YEC has no basis. What you are saying, with no proof, can be dismissed. Rapild burial can happen from river sediment, localized flood, volcanic activity, or dune formation. If you really believe a 500 year old man gathered two of every animal, and then repopulated the earth to create every race and genetic abnormality, why are we arguing? Evolution isnt falling apart because there is no proof otherwis

  • @sloth0876 ""YEC has no basis""

    The following all prove young earth:

    radiocarbon in diamonds

    tightly folded strata

    recession of the moon

    decaying magnetic field

    human population growth

  • @j919or How do diamonds stand to the 20ish other radiometric standards? Radiocarbons are only reliable to around 50,000 years...which is what the diamonds you are citing were aged at...which is not consistent with any other method, nor is it consistant with young earth (only 44,000 years off). Tightly folded strata have been explained with elastic and plastic deformation, you have to account for pressure, time, temp, and solution...rock layers are pliable.

  • @sloth0876 ""rock layers are pliable. "

    Rock layes dont bend they break unless at one time they were soft and pliable, which would lead us to rapid formation and bending while still pliable. 

  • @j919or Ever heard of plate techtonics? The same phenomenon you are speaking about can take place over long periods of time using just the concepts of tectonics.

  • @sloth0876 "plate techtonics?"

    Rather the Hydroplate theory adequately explains it

  • @sloth0876 ""reliable to around 50,000 years""

    But werent evolutionists forming dates based on radio carbons of millions of years? Your not saying that all those peer reveiwed journals were wrong are you?

  • @j919or No, im saying the utilization of one method is ignorant. Carbon-14 dating anything over 50,000 years is not accurate or useful...which is why they use multitudes of other ones....all of which place them much older than 6000 years....Evolutionists arent pushing radiometric dating because it isnt very accurate, but people like you are, and ignoring the vast amounts of other ways to date things.

  • @sloth0876 But even though scientists were so sure it was accurate to the millions of years, you have no problem continuing to believe in scientists and what they claim are facts....UNTIL THEY TOO ARE PROVEN WRONG!!

  • @j919or They are not hiding the percent error...that is always part of the report. You have to understand that even 1% error over a billion years is still ten million years. What evidence for creation? Complexity? That isnt proof, nor is it objective. Really...Hydroplate..because nothing says science like floating rocks on water.. That entire theory is hearsay, backed with no proof. Good...incest...even better. I'm glad 8 people held all of the worlds disease and traits for race.

  • @sloth0876 Good...incest...even better""

    Youre so biased against God which will justify ur condemnation and bannishment in hell.

    1. Incest is not wrong until the gene pool became corrupt.

    2. Noahs 3 sons had wives.

  • @j919or Its hard to banish me to someplace that has no evidence of existing. As soon as noahs sons and wives had children, incestuous relations would have to occur. Gene pools dont become "corrupt" ... incompatibilities in the genes cause the defects...not "corruption." Now, if you understand anything about genetics you would know how ridiculous it would be to have 8 people carrying every dominant and recessive disease at one time.

  • @j919or but then again, you believe the bible, soooo theres not much hope for current critical thinking on your part.

  • @sloth0876 There have been many theories of the universe and claims of God and claims for happiness but only the claims of the bible have stood firm for over 2000years. Of course u will deny this and when u do , I challenge u to support ur claims with evidence and prepare to be embarrassed.

  • @j919or I don't think you understand what the word theory means. Theories come with proof, objective proof. Something religion does not have. Claims of the bible went out the window with talking snakes and 900 year old men. If you want to get technical, the imposibility of a firmament is a good place to start. How about having light before a light source in genesis. How about the moon emiting light in the bible? Defininate porportions disproves the flood.

  • @j919or Exodus describes the population of egypt going form a few dozen to millions in less than 500 years. Lets not mention giants, dragons, and unicorns. Pillars of the earth? Get real. How about Pi being = to 3? How about daniel 8:10 when the stars fall from the sky? What you dont understand is, i dont believe the bible because i HAVE read it. Now, you make the claim for god, now bring proof. If i said i could fly, you would say proove it. You say god exists, now bring proof.

  • @sloth0876 "stars fall from the sky? "

    Meteors. He described what he was seeing and used terms that the common reader could understand.

  • @j919or Again, objective proof is outside of the source you are getting it from. You KNOW god is real, but cannot bring a single shred of evidence that doesnt relate to the bible? Do you know where the evidence from evoloution comes from? You OBSERVE it...something we have never done for a god. No physical laws have been broken (miracles) and the basis of the bible is absurd. But hey, god has a plan and is all knowing right? He knew eve would eat the apple and let her do it, dick....

  • @sloth0876 "cannot bring a single shred of evidence "

    the knowledge of God is there for those that want it. this makes sense since all people should have the opportunity to know God if they want to. You set ur proofs too high to the absolute level. GOd is non material and not knowlable by material sensors.

    The gospels and the historical writings and fulfilled prophecy(Ezek 26 Tyres destruction for ex.)of the bible is enough evidence for those that want to know God.

  • @j919or But hey, the dudes who didnt even know what meteors were should be trusted with knowing all the answers....you seriously see nothing wrong with that?

  • @sloth0876"what meteors were"

    are you serious?they didnt know that stars were anything more than objects in the sky that shined bright.So meteors were objects that fell from the sky and shined bright. They fell under the same classification and therefore bore the same name as stars.

    There would be no reason to know what stars were.Useless knowledge puffs up

    these atheist arguments only work for the unlearned and those that want to believe the lie.From which classification are you?

  • @j919or You dont see a problem on sculpting your life around a book written in a time when they thought the earth was flat and the ocean held sea monsters? What knowledge do you hold of superuniversal existence of any kind? Its speculation, nothing more. Proof to the absolute? All i want is an objective piece of proof....like how ANY scientific theory can provide.

  • @sloth0876 "Pi being = to 3?"

    Then debate me. State ur claim on Pi errors and reference it.

    Few dozen to millions in less than 500 years? Why not? Jacob had 12 sons. The Hebrews multiplied like rabbits.

  • @j919or 1kings7:23-26 says that pi is equal to three...in black and white. "ten cubits from the one rim to the other it was round all about, and...a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about" Pi is the ratio of circumfrence to its diameter. The difference between 3 and 3.14159... is the difference between having modernt technology and living in the dark ages error wise. Again, birth rates in biblical times were nothing like they are now. Childhood disease was prevelant

  • @sloth0876 ""difference between 3 and 3.14159""

    Another atheist argument based on ignorance. 10 cubits is a round number. They all were round numbers. In fact there is never a true exact measurement. All measurements are in round numbers to some degree. Just a heads up , you are going to hell and that is forever.

  • @j919or Infinity and forever are concepts. When placing a number year versus infinity, it literally does not exist in any meaningful context. but thank you for the threat. You will spend your afterlife just as you did before you were born...with no frame of reference...we were dead for billions of years before we were alive.

  • @sloth0876 "'spend your afterlife ""

    You have no proof of this yet u spout it as if you did. You just blew ur cover. You are not a scientist but a speculator.

  • @j919or Again, you base your life on people who didnt even understand the importance of decimals and hold their view as true and unquestionable. Harry potter has alot of historical basis...doesnt make it true...same for the bible...Show me a objective piece of evidence for the existence of the characters in the bible. Not that it even matters, but go look at the prision population in relation to religious affiliation. less than 1% atheist...but go and try to take the moral high ground.

  • @j919or and many didnt make it to sexual maturity...and there you go again using the bible to try and provide proof. "Jacob" is a character in a book that has no historical reference. I once read a book about a time traveling space monster...so he must exist, and so does everything they say about him. Jesus is a cosmic jewish zombie who is his own father...sent to earth to rid man of the origional sin he created...all becuase a woman was talked into eating a magical apple by a talking snake..

  • @sloth0876 """Jacob" is a character in a book that has no historical reference""

    The book is historical and bears all the marks of bonafide history but you wouldnt know that since you are uneducated in the realm of textual criticism.

  • @sloth0876 ""woman was talked into eating a magical apple ""

    And we all do the same sin over and over to increasingly horrid degree, with your evil being the most heneous. You have alligned urself with satan and have become an evil tool of satan. You are nothing but Satans puppet to do his bidding now and be tortured by forever.

  • @j919or But hey...i dont believe in satan...but i can assure you I do more to advance humanity in a week than religion has done in the past 500 years. When you go get your flu shot, remember me and the EVOLUTIONARY work i do. When you eat your food, remember the selective process derived from evolution to get the yields.

  • @sloth0876 ""EVOLUTIONARY work i do""

    Breeding is hardly evolution, and niether is adaptation. You dont work with increases in information coming from mutations. If there is a mutation it always decreases information and at times that is helpful but a series of decreases is always harmful.

  • @j919or Rabbits are everywhere. Why don't we find rabbit fossils with the dinosaur fossils?

  • @gregrutz I dont know, and all of your "why dont we find..." arguments fall into the same logical fallacy.

  • @j919or What we do find is a fossil record showing evolution, no creationist logic or worldview needed.

    What evidence would prove evolution to you?

    Then this video is about YOU.

  • @gregrutz Well the 2nd law would need to be reversed. A new law that complexity forms by itself and that mutations are beneficial in that they increase information. And then wed need to see species evolving today. and im not refering to adaptation but mutation.

    this whole video is filled with lies and distortions. Popes are false teachers with political and economic motives. Evolution is not a fact and is not testable and neither observable.

    It cant be contradicted for it is origins.

  • @j919or The 2nd law applies to a closed system, life is not a closed system because we get our energy from the sun.

    Evolution has been observed. Mutatations happen to genes, species evolve through adaptation. Evolution is tested every day, it has not been proven wrong.

    What did Don lie about?

  • @gregrutz The universe is a closed system. Where did all the order in the universe come from? Why is the universe accelerating in its expansion? How can order be produced from raw unharnessed energy without information of a machine to direct that information?

    And the principle of the 2nd law works in the closed system of the earth as well. Everything is decaying including the magnetic field.

  • @j919or I guess if you want me to keep going, the gap between judaism and christainity is the same as the gap between christianity and scientology...what makes you right? All you have used is circular argument: the bible is right because the bible says so. I believe harry potter exists becuase the books say so....same amount of evidence. The bible doesnt stand firm, its a laughing stock of modern ingenuity. You guide your life on the teachings of desert nomads.

  • @sloth0876 "teachings of desert nomads"

    Nonsense. Moses was trained in the courts of Pharoah and Paul was a Roman citizen , knew several langauges and was a top Pharisee.

  • @j919or Now, bring proof of said person outside of the bible. Such an important person would be in history, no? Same with jesus' crucifixion...romans were amazingly meticulous about record keeping... evidence. Lots of books reference real places, doesnt make them any more true. WHAT GOD? Your god? Native gods? Thor? Zeus? They all have the same amount of proof. Zero. Cool, now how about the rest. Geocentricity is a big one the bible uses...still false.

  • @sloth0876 ""bible is right because the bible says so""

    Nah. I know God and God confirms the bible to me. ALso there is plenty of internal evidence in the bible. Obviously im talking to someone that is wilfully ignorant of textual criticism....or just ignorant (Im not sure)

  • @sloth0876 The hydroplate theory best explains the Mid-oceanic ridge and ocean trenches

  • @j919or Lmao, citation needed bud.

  • @sloth0876 Provide a better explanation for the mid-oceanic ridge and ocean trenches. or perhaps u dont understand the hydroplate theory.

  • @j919or I assume by recession of the moon you are implying the system cant possibly be billions of years old? Since i'm not a physicist, i found this....seems sufficient with citation to peer reviewed journals.... talk origins. org/ faqs/ moonrec. html ....human population growth...now you have my field. The only way we could have 7 billion people from 2 only 4000 (post flood) years ago would be to have almost 100% survival rate, which we dont have now. It is literally an impossiblity.

  • @sloth0876 ""have almost 100% survival rate""

    What are the assumptions that you make to arrive at this number?

    How many births per household? Jacob is reported to have had 12 surviving births. Multiple births were common and necessary for survival of the family.

  • @j919or Historical records of birth rates and death perhaps? The worlds population went from 2 billion to 6.5 billion in a century...But what would be wierd is to have all inheritable genetic diseases present in just 2 people...which would need to happen with noah and his wife. If evolution doesnt exist, and genes cannot change, whatever diseases are present in humanity (and races) had to be present in them.

  • @sloth0876 ""present in just 2 people...""

    8 people, including the 3 wives of Noahs sons.

  • @j919or Taking account for plagues and insuficient farming, we didnt have a population boom until more modern medical techniques were developed...that argument is moot. The magnetism argument is based on the assumption that the earths magnetism is exponential....which is untrue, the system is currently decaying exponentially, but the interior of the earth and its componets account for the process.

  • @sloth0876 ""and i use it daily.. ""

    Use it daily? For what? To still ur conscience and assure yourself that all your evil will just vanish into oblivion when u die?

  • @j919or I track the genetic changes in bacteria over generations. I study medication tolerance in organisms, and track their potency in humans. If you would like to talk about what evolution is, and is not, send me a message. If you would like to continue being ignorant, and look like a fool, be on your way.

  • @strengthinweakness1 I dont think you actually understand what dna is, or how it works since you use the word programmed...but hey...anybody that cites god for things cant be too big on evidence and understanding.

  • @sloth0876 Define ur understanding of the word PROGRAM and how it doesnt fit into DNA

  • @ungenanntopffl wow, you're an idiot

  • The thing i cant stand is how theists think we're the ones who dont get it. Alittle hipocritical for me to say i understand but I simply cannot understand how people actually believe in magic.

  • @TheShark447 While I too am against 99% of all theists, I can't help but point a couple things out. One, the word is hypocritical. Not that it matters to me but that's exactly something an idiot on here would point out to you to say you're the dumb one and not them. Two, as a person who's seen both sides, I can tell you that what most religions believe in isn't magic, which is the supposed art of being able to manipulate due to one's own power, but the acts of supposed deities.

  • @wtd15 Yes I was raised in a religious background aswell, and perhaps the word "magic" may be open to interpretation. However, in my interpretation, it would seem to be anything outsides the bounds of science. Like for instance, an all powerful being in the sky, that can make anything out of thin air.

  • Hey, kiddos, want to see a fairy tale that adults really believe? Google whale evolution and go watch a 7 minutes video on the PBS web site that shows how an ancient 200 pound wolf searched for food along the beach, wander out into the surf, and morphed (evolved) into a 100 ton whale. There is nothing scientific about it, but nonetheless, this is the fairy tale that some adults really believe! Especially comical are the nostrils migrating to the top of the head to become a blow hole!

  • @achilles197474 i think you really should do some more research on whale evolution and evolution in general and see how it really works if you really do some research you will see it is scientific and has been proven as for nostrils "migrating" to form a blow hole their are fossils showing this gradually happening noting really comical now if you really want to see a fairy tail for adults look up "creation science" trust me you will get a good laugh

  • @mimarp478 Wolves don't swim into the ocean's surf in search for food. So, why would you believe this fairy tale? Have you considered applying the scientific method to the origin of whales? Are you familiar with the scientific method?

  • @achilles197474 first off that animal is not a wolf it is a pakicetus which is the ancestor to whales and like i said in my original post please do some more research on whale evolution and evolution general it is in no way a fairy tail and yes the i am familiar with the scientific method the scientific method can also be applied to whale evolution. I would also like to ask you if the scientific method can be applied to creation or ID? i think not.

  • @mimarp478 Scientific method: Experiment, observation, deduction, hypothesis, falsification. Applied to the origin of whales, 100% of time, it proves that whales are descended from whales. It cannot be applied to unique historical events. Neither evolution, or special creation is testable with the scientific method. Both are belief, neither is science. If you really think that the scientific method can be applied to whale evolution, you are clueless to the requirements of the scientific method.

  • @achilles197474 (1) observations:their have been numerous observation of evolution taking place nylon eating bacteria is only one (2) hypothesis: evolution was a hypothesis Darwin came up with explaining the diversity of life on the planet.

    (3)testing: not only is evolution tested with microorganism but also with the numerous observations of it happening

  • @mimarp478 We observe that the Darwinian Tree of Life is a fairy tale. Instead of an ever increasing menagerie of animal life, exploding through evolution, we observe a menagerie of life dying, the branches shrinking, and coming back to the trunk. Turn the Darwinian Tree of Life upside down, and you have accurately described the natural world - many species becoming fewer species with each passing day, and evolution adding virtually nothing to our ever shrinking menagerie. It is a fairy tale.

  • @achilles197474 its something called extinction animals die out and new animals evolve to take their place in their ecological niche this has always been happening and will always happen it does not disprove evolution if anything it gos hand an hand with evolution as for new animals popping up, evolution is a slow and gradual process. what we are seeing right now is some thing called a biotic crisis or the start of what seems to be the start of a Mass Extinction

  • @achilles197474 this has happened numrous times in the past for example the permien mass extintion up to 90% of all life went extinct but the life of earth still recovered and new species replaced the old extinct species in their ecological niches but it wasn't overnight it toke millions of years.

  • @achilles197474 (4) falsification: i don't know where you getting your fact but evolution is definitely fallible If our understanding of physics and chemistry changed significantly, causing us to find that the earth is quite young, that would falsify evolution if we found a cat,reptile,bird, dinosaur in Cambrian deposits that would also falsify evolution. I do agree with you that creation is a belief but not evolution with hundreds of peer reviews pretty much everyday .

  • @achilles197474 evolution is science and a fact that has been proven and has been going strong for almost 150 years . "If you really think that the scientific method can be applied to whale evolution, you are clueless to the requirements of the scientific method" i am not "clueless" of the scientific method i am actually quite familiar with it. I really don't see any reason to debate with you anymore feel free to reply to me but i doubt I will reply to you. So adios

  • @MrSmartass933 I mean no disrespect but, how old are you? Roughly, even.

  • @MrSmartass933:

    What?!  Can you repeat that? Proper spelling and grammar is usually essential to comprehension. Otherwise you're just wasting space.

  • Evolution doesn't work because mutations do not order anything.

    You should have known that.

    watch?v=qZev7hb40uk

  • @JungleJargon WRONG

  • @macharius1881...good question. i bet the answer will be "the bible said it, so its true"

  • . You blind fools!

    Those lizards adapted according to the design of the creator. None of those processes were the result of mutations. No wonder you were shocked that the changes took place so much faster than evolution predicted. You are spawn of hell and therefore easily deceived lemmings.

  • @j919or So guy, where's your proof of satan or hell?

  • . Its not about believing the right things or doing the right things. Its about spiritual connectivity to God. If anyone doesnt have the Spirit of God he does not belong to God but is still a child of satan. Now the truth about God is a tool to understanding that God is completely trustworthy and infinite in love and power, and that he alone can change you from a hellbound child of satan into a heavenbound child of God.

  • @j919or I think you got off at the wrong stop son. This video is a scientfic presentation, not open mike session at a creationist bible class.

  • awesome dude.

  • The Italian wall lizards, do they still mate with the evolved lizards? You said "over time two populations will accumulate enough differences and no longer mate. When this happens it's called specification." Or something close to that...

  • Those lizards didnt evolve they adapted. There was no evidence of mutations causing this but the intensely complex ingeius of Gods programming adaptation into organisms. This dude is a liar and a deceiver and deserves he'll like the rest of you lie promoters.

  • @j919or "This dude is a liar and a deceiver and deserves he'll like the rest of you lie promoters."

    Are you aware that there are more Christians who accept evolution than atheists? Your Creationist nonsense has been denounced by the Catholic Church and other prominent denominations of Christianity as well. Creationism is completely an American phenomena and rarely exists elsewhere to the extent that it does here. You are a minority. Any Christian that accepts evolution is damned to hell?

  • @buttface112211 ""Creationist nonsense has been denounced by the Catholic Church ""'

    The RCC is an evil institution from hell. You hypocritical atheists will use the catholic church when it suites you. The RCC is the king of atrocities. Im actually glad they denounce creation bc im all the more sure. Other denominations are not necessarily of God. Each institution gets new leaders and those new leaders fall to the temptation to worldliness and power and money.

  • @j919or I'm hypocritical for demonstrating that you are the minority by using the Catholic Church as a reference? I don't see any hypocrisy there. What denomination are you a member of? Is that the only true denomination? If so, how do you know? Any Catholic will tell you that they are the correct denomination. Any protestant will you that they are the correct denomination. The same applies to any other denomination. You can't all be right, but you can all certainly be wrong.

  • @buttface112211 There is no true denomination. Churches should stay small as each individual is led by God not by humans. BTW what importance does THE majority have on truth? When have the lemmings ever been right?

    You should know... u atheistic lemming. I could go toe to toe with you and refute all your dark beliefs. Doubtful that you even know why you believe what u believe.

  • @j919or "each individual is led by God"

    Why is it that "each individual" has a different interpretation of the Bible and God then? Maybe their personal interpretation is merely a reflection of their own personality, which is evident considering "God" always seems to endorse ones preconcieved notions and their is never discord between the individual and their God. There has to be a true denomination, because many of them hold conflicting beliefs which is the reason for their seperation.

  • @j919or "what importance does THE majority have on truth?"

    You missed the point entirely. I was pointing out the fact that most people who accept evolution are Christian as a direct response to your previous comment: "This dude is a liar and a deceiver and deserves he'll like the rest of you lie promoters". By "lie promoters" I assume you meant proponents of evolution and all accreditted biologists, so by your own admission any Christian that accepts evolution is damned to hell.

  • @j919or Also, I encourage you to acknowledge points that I have made and my responses, rather than continue trolling. You told me I was hypocritical for "using the catholic church when it suites me", acknowledge my response and outline the precise reason why it was hypocritical or admit you are just making shit up. I do not endorse the Catholic Church and their actions throughout history and the modern world, I mentioned their denouncement of creationism to demonstrate that you are a minority.

  • @jeremylap2 Let me guess, they "discovered" that their presuppositions were actually 100% right all along! Just because someone has a Ph.D. doesn't mean they are not a kook, and trying to use their degrees as part of your argument is an argumentum ad verecundiam or argument from authority, which is a logical fallacy. If they actually showed evolution wasn't possible, they wouldn't be posting a video about it on youtube, they would be accepting the Nobel Prize in biology.

  • @mogley52 hi there. What exactly is a kind? What is the barrier that stops macroevolution but allows microevolution? God bless

  • THERE ARE NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is possible in nature (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). Species couldn't survive if their tissues, organs, biological systems were still evolving? I discuss Punctuated Equilibrium theory. Read my article on Pravda: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss everything: genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, biological similarities between species.

  • @Mogley52 The "evidence" for evolution that you ask for (a worm "evolving" into a human) would be evidence against evolution via natural selection, and just shows you for the scientifically illiterate kook you are. You can go ahead and think that the CrocoDuck disproves the fact of evolution, but just know that everyone with a working brain will be laughing at you. Why don't you learn what evolution is ACTUALLY about, instead of just throwing this repeatedly used strawman about?

  • Homer: "Praise Jeebus"

  • Research on "The Humanist Manifesto" (#1,2 & 3) & John Dewey & the other original signers, will provide the key to how Academia has been taken over by atheists. In the 1930"s a group of elite leftist intellectuals agreed that society needed to be transformed & taking over the educational establishment & removing "Christianity" as the main alternative to evolution, were essential for this transformation. Read Tal Brooke's "When The world Will Be as One." It also unmasks The New Age & much more.

  • @moabedom, I suggest you google 1998 The Wedge Strategy + Wikipedia.

    A Political, broad social & academic agenda whose ultimate goal is to "defeat scientific materialism represented by evolution.

    Reverse the stifling materialist world view & replace it with a science consonant with Christian & theistic convictions.

    The strategy aims to affirm the reality of God. Its goal is to renew American culture by shaping public policy to reflect conservative Christian, namely evangelical Protestant values

  • @moabedom Academia hasn't been "taken over" by atheists. When your job is to question everything and search for the truth regardless of your presuppositions, superstitious myths just don't stand the test and get chucked into the waste basket of bad ideas.

  • Those lizards adapted, they did not increase complexity. The complexity necessary for adaptation was already present in them. No mutations occurred therefore no evolution occurred. You mean to tell us that God forsaw such needs and programmed such adaptation into the gene pool already? Yes such is the infinite wisdom of our God!

  • @j919or And your evidence for this baseless assertion is? Statements like this show you have never actually read a real biology textbook in your life, you've just allowed religious ideologues to spoon feed you bs and have mindlessly repeated it, ad nausium. Teleological reasoning is completely bogus and your whole argument falls apart because of it's reliance on it. You can close your eyes to the reality of biological evolution all around us, but it won't change the fact of it happening.

  • @TheSkepticalApe ""And your evidence for this baseless assertion is?""

    You are the king of bald assertions. Dna proves natural selection? You must be joking. DNA is super complex. Natural selection destroys it does not build. MUtations dont produce greater complexity. You have nothing and you are nothing but a tool of satan and a fool of infinite measure.

  • @j919or And still you provided no evidence for your assertions, how surprising. So your argument boils down to "complex=too hard to figure out how it was built piece by piece". How sad. If everyone listened to people like you we would still be a primitive, bronze-age species. You are claiming that for complexity to start, there needed to be something infinitely more complex to create it, scientists know complexity started from simplicity. Which really sounds more plausible?