the music is perfect, the improvisations, the Ud, qanun, and my favourite the violin as well, it is a pleasure to listen. That's why I don't understand this dancer. The belly dancer club member houswifes make is better in the community centre in the next corner
for your info only, tajiks and uzbeks etc are turks or at least turkic and so are turks from turkey or cyprus etc however the turks of turkey have more arabian influence! whereas the Cypriot turks more european influance! The greeks have a wide range of influances, some arabic, some turkish, some turkic some persian etc etc put them together and heypresto! they are really all the same just with variation! peace
for your info only... R u trying ti say that the Greeks that are the cradle of western civilization and influenced everyone, are those who were influenced by their eastern neighbors? In witch areas if you don't mind telling us please?
Dear friend, yes the greeks are considered to be the cradle of civilisation to the western world, im not disputing that. by your message i sense i rather offended or sceptical tone in your questioning. i hope you have not taken offense to what i said to someone else.
As for what i say, you can research and prove or try to disprove anything i say, i am prepeared to listern to other views by all means.
what i meant was, todays greek, has lots of nfluences it has picked up over centuries
these influences are varied in a big way. when you look at demographics you see that the greeks were exposed to trojans (known thanks to homer) hitites, ionites, assyrians etc. you see some small influences picked up by these peoples. secondly with the pontian greeks moving near armenians this meant a slight variation in influence based upon the ur or levantines as we know them. to the east we know that greeks fought persians now i know they influenced your ppl vastly.
if you look at their old city persepolis, which the greeks destroyed, because they saw it as too luxurious - in time greeks adopt this aim for luxury thus giving us nice building etc,
also i know that greeks picked up a lot of influences from the arabs, (also where the turkic peoples in my other comment picked up from) back in ancient times we know that arab cultures mixed with all sorts of cultures for trade as is the case with khazneh(research pls)
also we see that when greeks took over at egypt they were intrigued by egyptian high culture thus adopting lots of it, as is with ppl like cleopatra (a greek pharoah) and the greek egyptian tombs found are evidence to this. Also alexandria shows great proof that certain influences were adopted.
Alexander the great was an example as he settled for some time in middle east and adopted certain influences from the people there, but thats what made him a good conquerror.
With time my friend the turks invaded, and although the turks learnt and adopted lots of greek culture also, certain influences were picked up from them due to a long shared history. so you see my point is this, what makes greek culture and identity is really a fusion of collected influences merged together by the greeks thus making a great culture that is shared by many in that region today.
p.s you might need to know that lots of greek work was known again after arabs translated to latin!
Don't be afraid to offend certain people. Especially in the way you "offended" him. A normal, serious, thinking person would have have been offended and an idiot might even learn something from your offense.
Nice version. But please somebody upload that Glorious version E.Arvanitaki does in Summer'95 Concert Live on the Rocks !!!! Nobody ( includes she ) played and will play this great song as she does in that moment of paroxism !!!! Yassou .....
The best version of this is from Arvanitaki in the documentary done by Ntalaras in 1983. You can see it right here on youtube in "Rembetiko music of the outsiders" Part 6. No one to date has done a better job singing "koupes" then she did in that one, please watch the whole video of Part 6 when you find it, its excellent. It is also the best instrument playing as well.
I have been posting comments for the past hour. It has been a tremendous waste of time. it is now 3am where I live and 11am in Athens. If I post another comment could somebody please fly over the US and Shoot me in the head. I will pay for your ticket and the gun.
I don't understand what the problem is. This is a traditional song of the greeks who came 1922 from smyrne. They brought their traditions and songs with them to greece. And it is logical that the influence between the two cultures is mutual, if you know what mutual means. We also don't ask you, why are you using our words such as democracy. We are proud that the greek language has been spread all over the world. The idea "this is mine, this is yours" is ridiculous.
Just get the fuck over it and enjoy it for what it is... Music is supposed to bring ppl together... And to all those Turks writing in their own language either contribute to the discussion by typing in English either fuck off!!!
sonuçta kimin müziğinin nerden geldiği, nelerin kimden "çaldığı" sonsuza kadar tartışılabilir. fakat sonuçta hepsini bir şekilde paylaşıyoruz, herkes kendi rengini de katmış. önemli olan, bu güzel müzikleri yitirmemektir. kalbinden müzik yapan herkesin ağzına ve canına sağlık!
If you had any sort of education, upbringing and/or had a penchant for thought, you would know - after 500 years of occupation, pedomazoma, genocide and pure suffocation of culture we took what we did and made it our own. Our own! We are and always will be victorious!
oooh please shut up with the crap that ALL songs are turk songs..its getting tiering.from all songs that turks comment are theirs wouldnt leave us greeks a single song. Jealousy or what? come on now...
içinde türkçe kelimeler geçiyor die türkçe olacak die bi şey yok, onların öz kültürleri lütfen ona bari sahip çıkmayalım derim ben...bu arada bu öz be öz yunan ezgisidir.
bakın bu şarkılar türkiede yaşayan yunanlıarın.ama bu şarkılar hep türk şarkılarının kopyasıdır.osmanlı içinde yaşayan yunanlıların bir kültürü yoktu.siz neden bahsediyorsunuz.bilginiz olmayan konularla ilgili yorum yazmayın.
işin aslı ben bu aymazlığa karşıyım işte, osmanlıda yaşayan yunanlıların bir kültürü yoktu, bu nasıl bir aymazlık, balkanlarda yaşayan türklerinde kendilerine ait bir kültürleri yok o zaman. bizler buralarda yokken at üstünde barbarken bu insanlar araplarla ticaret yapıyorlardı.
dahası az biraz müzik bilginiz olsa ud'u balkanlara getirenlerin türkler değil araplar olduğunu bilirsiniz, onlar ispanyaya da götürdü, biz tamamiyle etkilendik, yok bizim göçmen dedelerimizin "tar"dan başka folklorik çalgıları yoktu. biraz daha izan diliyorum size. bu şarkılar türkiye de yaşayan yunanlıların değil, işin aslı keşke öyle olsaydı belki bir ihtimal bizim olma şansı olurdu ama bütün literatüristler rebeticaları girite bağlar,
bizim alıpta etkileyemediğimiz tek yer olan yunan toprağı, müzik evrenseldir ama yerel bağlarına bağlıdır. o nedenle her şeye bu türktür demek bir aymazlıktır. bu arada bir selanikli olarak meraklanmayın fazlasıyla bilgi sahibiyim, korumam gereken bir türk kültürü var, sapla samanı ayırmam o nedenle...
sizinle ilgili yazıcak bir şey bulamadım.çünkü bir selaniklinin bu şarkılara sahip çıkması,türklerle moğulları karıştırıp türklere barbar demesi doğal.msn adresim
türklerle moğolları karıştırdığımı da nerden çıkardın onlar altın ordu, ulan batura git, onlarda barbar olmadıklarını söylerler sana, insan kendisiyle yüzleşmelidir, yunanlılarında barbar oldukları zamanları vardı (hatta hala barbardırlar) ama müzikleri inanılmaz bir geçmişe sahiptir, aynı araplar gibi (onlarda ilkeldirler bir çok mevzuuda) benim demeye çalıştığım şey bizim zaten büyük ve köklü geleneklerimiz var,
1850 lerlerden sonra mızak-i hümayün tarafından geliştirilen bir türk sanat müziğimiz var yunanlılar buna eremez, demek istediğim şey, bırak gerçekten onların olan şey onlarda kalsın bize ait olan şey bizde, sap ile saman ayırlmalıdır. ki bir müzisyen olarak konuşuyorum şu an ilk kişiliğimle bir türk olarak değil. seyyan oskaylar,nedim nadi sayırlar, bizde daha güzeli de var...
neyse sizi anlayamıyorum.onun için msn olayını söyledim.ben türk müziklerine benzeyen yunan müzikleri severim.sakın yanlış anlama yunanlılarıda sevrim.:-)(babamda müzisyen)
peki bu halis mulis yunan müzigiymisde neden icinde türkce kelimeler geciyormus?? birde bunu aciklasaniz. a, hayir yanlis anlamayin, bu illa türk müzigidir demiyorum, ama kac yüz yil bir arada yasayip, ardindanda asla birbirimizden etkilenmedik, bunlar oldugu gibi sunlarin, berikiler sadece bunlarin demek, AYMAZLIGIN EN ALASIDIR, diyorum.
The Altay Mountains (Russian: Алтай; Mongolian: Алтай, Altai) are a mountain range in central Asia, where Russia, China, Mongolia and Kazakhstan come together, and where the great rivers Irtysh, Ob and Yenisei have their sources. Altay Mountains are known as the Turkic peoples' birthplace.
I love the music, the song, hypnotic, I'm not a fan of the dancing here, but totally worth listening to again and again
MTspazmataz 1 year ago
Apithano Video!!! Apotheosi!!!
Shalia583 1 year ago
what's this dance please??
koldusopera 1 year ago
@Kalimeraba really? please can u write the whole refrain, and maybe a translation? i want to learn it.
and to jureilers: Thank you for mentioning the tempo, they always play it so fast in Greece!
MedievalFairy 2 years ago
the music is perfect, the improvisations, the Ud, qanun, and my favourite the violin as well, it is a pleasure to listen. That's why I don't understand this dancer. The belly dancer club member houswifes make is better in the community centre in the next corner
pistique 2 years ago
pease tell me the type f this dance
kristi2612 2 years ago
@kristi2612
tsifteteli!!
hnsgdane 1 year ago
εναι πολι ομορφι αφτι που τραγουδαι.....πο πο
MrSkaramanga 2 years ago
because i said the girl is beautiful you fuckheads are going to give me a thumbs down lol. Interesting. Give me some more
MrSkaramanga 2 years ago
the girl dances in a way that is quite close to central asians (uzbeks, tajiks), not turks :) i think sofia papazoglou signs this songs much better.
BostonEm 2 years ago
for your info only, tajiks and uzbeks etc are turks or at least turkic and so are turks from turkey or cyprus etc however the turks of turkey have more arabian influence! whereas the Cypriot turks more european influance! The greeks have a wide range of influances, some arabic, some turkish, some turkic some persian etc etc put them together and heypresto! they are really all the same just with variation! peace
cypriotenglish 2 years ago
for your info only... R u trying ti say that the Greeks that are the cradle of western civilization and influenced everyone, are those who were influenced by their eastern neighbors? In witch areas if you don't mind telling us please?
frokalopoulo 2 years ago
Dear friend, yes the greeks are considered to be the cradle of civilisation to the western world, im not disputing that. by your message i sense i rather offended or sceptical tone in your questioning. i hope you have not taken offense to what i said to someone else.
As for what i say, you can research and prove or try to disprove anything i say, i am prepeared to listern to other views by all means.
what i meant was, todays greek, has lots of nfluences it has picked up over centuries
cypriotenglish 2 years ago 2
these influences are varied in a big way. when you look at demographics you see that the greeks were exposed to trojans (known thanks to homer) hitites, ionites, assyrians etc. you see some small influences picked up by these peoples. secondly with the pontian greeks moving near armenians this meant a slight variation in influence based upon the ur or levantines as we know them. to the east we know that greeks fought persians now i know they influenced your ppl vastly.
cypriotenglish 2 years ago
if you look at their old city persepolis, which the greeks destroyed, because they saw it as too luxurious - in time greeks adopt this aim for luxury thus giving us nice building etc,
also i know that greeks picked up a lot of influences from the arabs, (also where the turkic peoples in my other comment picked up from) back in ancient times we know that arab cultures mixed with all sorts of cultures for trade as is the case with khazneh(research pls)
cypriotenglish 2 years ago
also we see that when greeks took over at egypt they were intrigued by egyptian high culture thus adopting lots of it, as is with ppl like cleopatra (a greek pharoah) and the greek egyptian tombs found are evidence to this. Also alexandria shows great proof that certain influences were adopted.
Alexander the great was an example as he settled for some time in middle east and adopted certain influences from the people there, but thats what made him a good conquerror.
cypriotenglish 2 years ago
With time my friend the turks invaded, and although the turks learnt and adopted lots of greek culture also, certain influences were picked up from them due to a long shared history. so you see my point is this, what makes greek culture and identity is really a fusion of collected influences merged together by the greeks thus making a great culture that is shared by many in that region today.
p.s you might need to know that lots of greek work was known again after arabs translated to latin!
cypriotenglish 2 years ago 3
I hope i have not offended you or anyone else, you asked and so i made an observation based upon certain world known facts i was told!
peace
cypriotenglish 2 years ago
Don't be afraid to offend certain people. Especially in the way you "offended" him. A normal, serious, thinking person would have have been offended and an idiot might even learn something from your offense.
PasTaPhysique 2 years ago
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demur008 2 years ago
Nice version. But please somebody upload that Glorious version E.Arvanitaki does in Summer'95 Concert Live on the Rocks !!!! Nobody ( includes she ) played and will play this great song as she does in that moment of paroxism !!!! Yassou .....
Aleksis022 3 years ago 2
Arvanitaki's "performance" is far below every one else that performed this song. But she was backed up by disc companies and broadcast networks.
Like rangvi from France says, this version is beautiful and emotional.
kostaspolitis 2 years ago
The best version of this is from Arvanitaki in the documentary done by Ntalaras in 1983. You can see it right here on youtube in "Rembetiko music of the outsiders" Part 6. No one to date has done a better job singing "koupes" then she did in that one, please watch the whole video of Part 6 when you find it, its excellent. It is also the best instrument playing as well.
MrSkaramanga 2 years ago
***** Efkaristo & Tesekkürler
CO48 3 years ago 2
loipon eimai 19 eton kai mou goustarei poli ayto to katerinaki pos to lene.tora omos ipotheto oti tha einai pano apo 50 :P ara den me pairnei!!!
satriazamis 3 years ago
genika den se pernei flore...
den goustaroume mia..ton poulo..ale-ale kai tournene kolomaga!
6510686 3 years ago
malakas
MrSkaramanga 2 years ago
this is really so beautiful and emotional ; I cannot even find the right words for it ! Kind greetings from France.
rangvi 3 years ago 2
YEAH!
adrSpikey360 3 years ago
O Ηaig Yazdjian ειναι στο ούτι ή κάνω λάθος?
fr0uel 3 years ago
@fr0uel nai o haig einai..hahhahahah
trelopaidopankir 1 year ago
spasta ola kai o logariasmos dikos mou
gia oti peis kai oti kaneis
saltadoros08 3 years ago 4
ti einai to tragoudi?kai tou zitas diavatirio!
saltadoros08 3 years ago
kserei kaneis to onoma mias oxi poly palias tragoudistrias me xarakthristikh fwnh pou to exei tragoudhsei auto k alla smyrneika?
h fwnh ths exei kati apo Arvanitakh, alla einai pio gemath kati san ton Gounarh.
elpizw kapoios na katalavei... :S
chemkouv 3 years ago
TRAGOUDI
saltadoros08 3 years ago
Allah vre Katarina you are amazing ahhh aman aman yaniyorum ben seviyorum ben ....
Smyrna92 3 years ago 2
I love it!!!! now we got to wake up the Italians so they can enjoy it.
eladitsa 3 years ago
aplos mia foni kai na'tragoudi pou briskonte me ta pio megalatera tou kosmou.
ttt444ll 3 years ago
katapliktiki ektelesi!!!!fantastiko!!!!
boulitsas 3 years ago
thelo na se kratiso re Katerina!
564645645645645 3 years ago
Ti eisai esy Katerina!
Teleio tragoudi (gia mena to wraiotero smyrnaiiko)
XPHCTOC 3 years ago 4
Vaj be this music makes you drink 3 liters of uzzo of of of .Kindly reegards Mr Max from Sweden.
oss5569 3 years ago 2
music is music doesnot recognize borders only souls wake up.
Fire to fasists and goverrments.
Love Peace Music.
petropoulioti 4 years ago 20
exw akousei kata kairous arketes ekteleseis toy sigkekrimenou kommatiou einai polu omorfos o ry8mos toy se eyxaristoume polu!
letttitflownet 4 years ago 2
amaan aman seviyorum ben vre!!! eeeetsi!
letttitflownet 4 years ago 5
just came back from istanbul hm.....great music great food great people we do have a lot in common nas athens greece
goldenatanaz 4 years ago 2
I have been posting comments for the past hour. It has been a tremendous waste of time. it is now 3am where I live and 11am in Athens. If I post another comment could somebody please fly over the US and Shoot me in the head. I will pay for your ticket and the gun.
poleske 4 years ago 2
MOYSIKH TEXNH is greek.
laskipete 4 years ago 2
ti organo auto to kanonaki... h melwdia tou se stelnei.....
pvergo 4 years ago 8
I don't understand what the problem is. This is a traditional song of the greeks who came 1922 from smyrne. They brought their traditions and songs with them to greece. And it is logical that the influence between the two cultures is mutual, if you know what mutual means. We also don't ask you, why are you using our words such as democracy. We are proud that the greek language has been spread all over the world. The idea "this is mine, this is yours" is ridiculous.
esperis79 4 years ago 6
Just get the fuck over it and enjoy it for what it is... Music is supposed to bring ppl together... And to all those Turks writing in their own language either contribute to the discussion by typing in English either fuck off!!!
fotaras007 4 years ago 2
OSOI XEROUN KANOUN TOYMBEKI
kout07 4 years ago 4
nice old greek song............
amsterdamthanos 4 years ago 2
sonuçta kimin müziğinin nerden geldiği, nelerin kimden "çaldığı" sonsuza kadar tartışılabilir. fakat sonuçta hepsini bir şekilde paylaşıyoruz, herkes kendi rengini de katmış. önemli olan, bu güzel müzikleri yitirmemektir. kalbinden müzik yapan herkesin ağzına ve canına sağlık!
sazji 4 years ago
Nice slow ussak tsiftetelli. No guitars, daraboukas and other bullshit.
tasos76 4 years ago
Yiati ti exoun oi darabukes re xeneri koultouriari
yannis13 4 years ago
good GREEK song stolen from the turks before they after they had stole greek and persian culture.....
SonicBlunt 4 years ago
If you had any sort of education, upbringing and/or had a penchant for thought, you would know - after 500 years of occupation, pedomazoma, genocide and pure suffocation of culture we took what we did and made it our own. Our own! We are and always will be victorious!
MeltemiX 4 years ago
Who are the musicians on this video and when was it recorded?
kafetzou 4 years ago
you have introduced me into a total new world, thank you!
subz6 4 years ago
oooh please shut up with the crap that ALL songs are turk songs..its getting tiering.from all songs that turks comment are theirs wouldnt leave us greeks a single song. Jealousy or what? come on now...
Despina6946 4 years ago 2
Perfect. Please post more!
augenblick2007 4 years ago
this is turk-arap song
bleyda 4 years ago
içinde türkçe kelimeler geçiyor die türkçe olacak die bi şey yok, onların öz kültürleri lütfen ona bari sahip çıkmayalım derim ben...bu arada bu öz be öz yunan ezgisidir.
rainson62 4 years ago
bakın bu şarkılar türkiede yaşayan yunanlıarın.ama bu şarkılar hep türk şarkılarının kopyasıdır.osmanlı içinde yaşayan yunanlıların bir kültürü yoktu.siz neden bahsediyorsunuz.bilginiz olmayan konularla ilgili yorum yazmayın.
bleyda 4 years ago
işin aslı ben bu aymazlığa karşıyım işte, osmanlıda yaşayan yunanlıların bir kültürü yoktu, bu nasıl bir aymazlık, balkanlarda yaşayan türklerinde kendilerine ait bir kültürleri yok o zaman. bizler buralarda yokken at üstünde barbarken bu insanlar araplarla ticaret yapıyorlardı.
rainson62 4 years ago
dahası az biraz müzik bilginiz olsa ud'u balkanlara getirenlerin türkler değil araplar olduğunu bilirsiniz, onlar ispanyaya da götürdü, biz tamamiyle etkilendik, yok bizim göçmen dedelerimizin "tar"dan başka folklorik çalgıları yoktu. biraz daha izan diliyorum size. bu şarkılar türkiye de yaşayan yunanlıların değil, işin aslı keşke öyle olsaydı belki bir ihtimal bizim olma şansı olurdu ama bütün literatüristler rebeticaları girite bağlar,
rainson62 4 years ago
bizim alıpta etkileyemediğimiz tek yer olan yunan toprağı, müzik evrenseldir ama yerel bağlarına bağlıdır. o nedenle her şeye bu türktür demek bir aymazlıktır. bu arada bir selanikli olarak meraklanmayın fazlasıyla bilgi sahibiyim, korumam gereken bir türk kültürü var, sapla samanı ayırmam o nedenle...
rainson62 4 years ago
sizinle ilgili yazıcak bir şey bulamadım.çünkü bir selaniklinin bu şarkılara sahip çıkması,türklerle moğulları karıştırıp türklere barbar demesi doğal.msn adresim
bleyda 4 years ago
santorini_island@msn.c buraya buyrun
bleyda 4 years ago
türklerle moğolları karıştırdığımı da nerden çıkardın onlar altın ordu, ulan batura git, onlarda barbar olmadıklarını söylerler sana, insan kendisiyle yüzleşmelidir, yunanlılarında barbar oldukları zamanları vardı (hatta hala barbardırlar) ama müzikleri inanılmaz bir geçmişe sahiptir, aynı araplar gibi (onlarda ilkeldirler bir çok mevzuuda) benim demeye çalıştığım şey bizim zaten büyük ve köklü geleneklerimiz var,
rainson62 4 years ago
1850 lerlerden sonra mızak-i hümayün tarafından geliştirilen bir türk sanat müziğimiz var yunanlılar buna eremez, demek istediğim şey, bırak gerçekten onların olan şey onlarda kalsın bize ait olan şey bizde, sap ile saman ayırlmalıdır. ki bir müzisyen olarak konuşuyorum şu an ilk kişiliğimle bir türk olarak değil. seyyan oskaylar,nedim nadi sayırlar, bizde daha güzeli de var...
rainson62 4 years ago
msn'e gelince sohbet programları kullanmıyorum, yine de teşekkürler...
rainson62 4 years ago
neyse sizi anlayamıyorum.onun için msn olayını söyledim.ben türk müziklerine benzeyen yunan müzikleri severim.sakın yanlış anlama yunanlılarıda sevrim.:-)(babamda müzisyen)
bleyda 4 years ago
insan herkesi sevmeli dünya daha yaşanabilir bir yer olsun...
rainson62 4 years ago
peki bu halis mulis yunan müzigiymisde neden icinde türkce kelimeler geciyormus?? birde bunu aciklasaniz. a, hayir yanlis anlamayin, bu illa türk müzigidir demiyorum, ama kac yüz yil bir arada yasayip, ardindanda asla birbirimizden etkilenmedik, bunlar oldugu gibi sunlarin, berikiler sadece bunlarin demek, AYMAZLIGIN EN ALASIDIR, diyorum.
anadoluyumben 4 years ago
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The Altay Mountains (Russian: Алтай; Mongolian: Алтай, Altai) are a mountain range in central Asia, where Russia, China, Mongolia and Kazakhstan come together, and where the great rivers Irtysh, Ob and Yenisei have their sources. Altay Mountains are known as the Turkic peoples' birthplace.
A GOOD MONGOL IS A DEAD MONGOL
njk5298 4 years ago
beautiful mate, keep on!!!
neron0511 4 years ago
instrumentation...fantastic!
theovanhalen 4 years ago 2
no klarino, no guitar.. we could take a break here and have some raki!
jureilers 4 years ago
You have a point here my friend...
tasos76 4 years ago