I thought you'd aim the head with your left to make him flinch, then use the recoil and deliver elbow in sort of a 1-2 fashion...or maybe if you actually grabbed him and then kneed him in the gut, then elbow down when he bends looks like a nice combination to work on..
Your not even hitting with the elbow. Please remove this video. There giving people the wrong way to defend yourself. The best way to win a fight. Is not to be in one.
@eluap you cant predict that, there are a million and one things you can do in a street fight, this vid is just demonstrating on technique, you cant make a 5 or 10 minute or indeed any length youtube video covering all the angles of what could possibly happen in a street fight, "what do you do when the guy gets mad and hits you back?" well you could block or slip and punch him or elbow him or knee him, the point is you wont know exactly what technique to use until you are in that situation
I know it from personal expierience, the elbow is one of your best weapons, trust me.
It's fast, while your opponent dodges or blocks your punch, you are already close enough for an elbow strike. I delivered one elbow strike to the left cheek bone. The flesh was ripped, and the bleeding was bad. the elbow is perfect for self defence.
i joind this program and paid the 7 bucks and its been over 2 weeks and still no video...i emaild them and got no responds and called there number and its not a working number i feel like i have been scammed and warn anyone not to fall forf it too
one of my favorite moves! only i like to use the point of my elbow to the side of his head; the jaw hinge or the temple. works good off a block or when he tries to grab you. i see a lot of comments, but its worked great for me.
... why not just avert a right punch and punch him in the throat? 18lbs of pressure closes trachea? That's less than a nice punch in the first place, and then he's dead. It's a lot easier to kill people than it is to fight them.
Why would anyone grab a persons head while doing a elbow strike? You need the other arm to defend yourself as you attack and if you don"t , the person your attacking could give a elbow strike right back to you.
... continued - Even though I don't like it to begin with, this could really only be executed in very minimal situations. I keep my hands up, and to queue a back of the head grab, will likely cause my reflex to place my hands on both your shoulders (at that point you can't elbow me), then I am going to knee the heck out of your appendix/hip area. The only time I lead with a preparatory move ,etc, is if it will totally take them off balance, or I can get them to cross.
@raredesign ...well to clarify...not just off balance or cross, but also for faints or lead-ins which will set it up nicely.
My personal preference and experience...take it or leave it. No big deal to me.
I am just saying be cautious with this type of move.
My apologies to the poster of this vid, but I just think there are much better tactics to focus on then something this risky. I would put a move like this in the category of other flashy moves such as scissor kicks.
@raredesign and just so everyone knows, I am not opposed to elbows by any means. I am a firm believer in using the elbows and knees. I feel like that is common sense, but don't try to bring a dudes head down to your elbow if he is not weary. Maybe I would vertically strike him in the throat or something with a rising elbow, or after a nice front kick buckled him, probably brace his head and smash my knee into his nose...man...now I want to go fight...
- Bodies are not rigid like the dummy in this vid, so you have to account for flex which can leave your arm extended and no head in your hands.
- The act of pulling and pushing at the same time is not an efficient way to execute precision. You are moving outside of what you control by bringing in another variable. Ultimately you are dependent on the weakness, slow reflexes, and inability for them to counter. -- continued...
One thing i haven't seen any of you post, except for how weak, useless, soft the elbow is...
let's get to the fundamentals, it can be a great hit, and it's much more likely than to hit with a right hook, if you're that close, you have no momentum with your right hook.
Ok, listen people, it disgusts me half of you don't point this out, or any of you.
You have to push off with your toes, SNAP YOUR HIPS, THEN your shoulders THEN your elbow. Its a WHOLE BODY movement. FFS people, ur clueles
Very good, you're a great instructer ! Thanks for your other "secret of uppercuts" vid too, great stuff. This is the kind of practical, instantly usable & memorable things I'm after. Pls. don't be discouraged by the ingrates.
When you want to hit the guy with the elbow, don't grab his head because you will be defensless and if he decides to punch you, you're fucked. And also because in the vid the guy is hitting with the SIDE of the elbow, which deliver less power (cause it's the softer part of the elbow)
1. "if he decides to punch you": You're not in slow motion. Your attack must be quick or you'll never pull it off. At close quarters combat distance, you're not in "punching range". In martial arts, it's called "trapping range" so not an issue.
2. Elbow strike: The entire arm from the elbow to the wrist (when your palm is facing you) is like a lead pipe. Best to hit just near the elbow but anywhere along the hard forearm will deliver power.
@cqctraining that's true, in fact what I wanted to say wasn't that it is useless, sorry, I wanted to say that there are better moves. I do Krav Maga for a while now and you probaly know that there are simple elbow strike moves where you use only 1 arm to strike the opponent in the side of the jaw and your other hand stays in the defense position, close to your body. why it's better to do this simple one? Because in most combats u can forget 70% of what u learned, especially complex moves
@seusgordo - Understood. We post articles from all positions and circumstances because in a real street fight, you have to be prepared for anything for self defense. This self defense technique is only to show one possible martial arts move to give more power to the elbow strike. There are other methods, including 1 elbow strikes as well as other areas of the elbow to strike with.
Professional feedback is always welcome on any of my videos. Thanks for the follow up!
@seusgordo How will you be defenseless? The side that you grab the head with is protected, because he wont be throwing any haymakers from that position, and unless youre just grabbing the back of his head and standing there, then your elbow will already be implanted into his face. He MIGHT throw a shitty uppercut, but it's highly unlikely. Grab his head and throw your elbow, he will either be knocked out cold or dazed.
If your lead hand is near enough to grab the back of his head, why don't you just palm heel him in the jawline with the lead hand with a slight shuffle forward to bring your body weight in to play? That can be a main blow by itself or to set up a heavier blow with your rear hand.
@giantshrek1 - I don't disagree. Actually, I have another video on this very principle that you've stated (speed vs. power). In a real fight, the palm heel would by my first choice.
Overall, the self defense technique in this video is better at simply showing how to add more power to an elbow strike in certain situations.
@jayrock22ing - You should always try to make your self defense training as realistic as possible. The B.O.B. training dummy works great for this but you can do things like put a ski cap on him, clothes (even pants as shown); neclaces (some street bling? ;-) etc.
From somone that has boxed for 6 years, I also did muay thai for 2. This looks difficult to actually acheive. Im sure it works perfectly when executed, but i didnt hear you bringing up different ways around what your opponent would be doing while you were grabbing his head, from someone who knows what he was doing i would expect nothing more than a right hook over the top of my grab unless you hide your chin behind shoulder but even then i would most likely get smacked. Nice vid though L:O
@zouga - It's definitely not a black and white self defense technique. But then again, nothing really is in a real street fight, right?
A lot can go wrong with this technique if it doesn't have enough speed to it, especially if you're using it as a first strike. It's best to use it as a follow up to get more power into your elbow strike.
In the end, it's simply another tool to be added to your tool box of self defense techniques.
this concept reminds me of a "sandwiching concept" used in Ed Parkers Kempo as well as in several traditional Karate styles (if you examine some of the traditional Kata) I was taught to deliver the elbows in a "swimming like" motion employed very close in elbow knee clinch range in conjunction with punching kneeing and clinching. You can use this method if he does and initial stike at you the grabbing motion being the block.
@TheSubwaysurfer - That's an EXCELLENT analogy (the "swimming" motion). This puts a lot of upper body momentum into the elbow strike. It largely depends up on body position because if he's taller than you (which I set my training dummy to be), then you won't be able to get that downward motion into the strike, but coming from above, it works great.
Kempo is a very direct martial art and employs a lot of power moves. I didn't realize they also taught clinch work.
I agree that the strike works best in close in combination with other strikes and part of a combo where the person is already dazed. attempting to grab the back of the head/neck while the body is in motion is the same as if you would throw a jab at him. The motion will cause him to move BACK. destruction on the low line, ie foot stomp,shin/gorin kick which are longer range wpns sets this up better.
@TheSubwaysurfer - good point. The body is programmed to flinch away from a perceived threat and you'll need a lot of speed to be able to quickly get a hand behind the head for this self defense technique.
In addition, coming up from below the line of sight may give you crucial advantage in pulling this move off.
Thanks for the valuable input SubwaySurfer! Your experience is welcome on this channel! Keep it up!
clearly an arm chair expert, first it very hard to control sum1 in the clinch with 1 hand (basically imppossible, they can pull away easily, so what this guy just said is ineffective unless ure openent is already hurt or gassed
@91usmcsniper91 - To clarify, this self defense technique has nothing to do with controlling someone in the clinch. It's about delivering more speed and power into an elbow strike in close quarters combat.
There are other self defense videos related to the clinch in my channel and you're welcome to view them and comment as well (even if you disagree) but I ask that you remain professional and avoid derogatory comments. We can disagree without being disagreeable, right?
@91usmcsniper91 - I better understand your point about the clinch and I guess it could be viewed as a "half clinch". But there's no illusion that you're going to get the same kind of leverage with only one hand and not having the strength of your whole upper body to help you.
Still appreciate you sharing your insight...still want you to comment more on this and any other self defense videos...still want to make sure you contribute professionally.
I think elbow are a very effective follow-up move in a combination. This way it is telegraphed even less as they are already in "battle mode". Grabbing the back of the opponent's head as shown in this video also could lead to vicious knees to their face if the elbow(s) doesn't do the job.
@sportvandora - nice points and you're right...elbows are a great "power move" to be used in combinations in a close quarters combat self defense scenario.
@cqctraining Nice. I also train in Krav Maga. I like your tips, and am subscribing. The more people out there training, the less scum bags can get away with!
@lastwithpaganblood87 - Thanks! Yes...Krav is a great system to train with and I've found most Krav Maga instructors to be very open minded when it comes to training in other self defense techniques as well.
@Abobojo - thanks for policing up the comments Abobojo! ;-)
The person you responded to has been deleted.
I welcome open debate and feedback on my channel as long as it's respectful and professional. A rarity yes...but with help from others like you, we can keep it a learning experience for all.
@jayvidal - You're right that I wouldn't see a child doing this, but I make no distinctions with women and have seen much smaller women pull this technique off beautifully. In fact, I've seen a smaller woman headbutt and knockout a larger man in one shot.
Don't be too quick to judge the ladies when it comes to self defense Jayvidal! ;-)
@CqbJunkie - Actually the dummy doesn't have knees so it couldn't be demonstrated.
You're welcome to chime in with comments and feedback, but only if you can add valuable contributions in a professional manner. If you can, I'd like to hear your tips and constructive feedback. The more comments the better we can all learn and continue to better our self defense training, you know?
do you think that the other person would just let himself get grabbed? im pretty sure he will dodge , get down or something he is not just going to stand there thinking "oh shit he grabbed the back of my neck what do i do"
@lozer184 - The key with this self defense technique is the timing and speed. You're right that no one will just LET themselves be grabbed, but reaction is always slower than action.
If you take action quickly, you'll easily be able to get your hand behind his neck before he can punch or dodge. Not a problem. Your forward momentum will close the gap as well and the pulling forward behind his head or neck at the very least will give you a more stable target to strike.
but while catching his head and preparing to strike you're without the protection of your arms and can get punches....i don't get this...better defend a bit and counter attack rapidly.
I would use this "DIRTY BOXING" technique after a combo or after Ive already closed the gap.. His elbos are less effective because he's throwing more of a forearm. Elbos should be thrown from a 12:00-6:00 motion allowing you to use the pt. of your elbo; this inflicts more pain.
an elbow done properly has enough power where you shouldn't need to pull his head down with the other hand. you're better off keeping your other hand up to defend, or going with a punch. odds are if you put your hand behind thier head, theyd pull away from you and strike you when youre off balanced.
@millec60 - Valid argument millec60. Thanks for posting.
One reason for the grab is to avoid the natural flinch response of the attacker that will limit the power of your elbow strike because you're hitting a target that is moving away from you.
crap... wasted energy, time and movements... 1) step towards your subject, 2) reach out to position hand behind subject's head, 3) pull subject's head towards you, 4) deliver elbow. this goes against everything we learn about self defense or CQC. Sounds like something from an old WWF wrestling move. A skilled individual could hit this fool 2 to 3 times before he could deliver that elbow that way. This kinda garbage can get people hurt bad... thank god for being able to leave comments on vids.
@ldmak90 - You're always welcome to leave comments ldmak90 but ones that start out with immature responses like "crap" get a "one warning" notice.
I welcome open debate and comments on all of my self defense videos. All I ask is that you provide value by explaining your position in a professional way and offer your own advice. Your comment is nothing but judgment with none of your own thoughts. That's easy to do.
Next time, offer your own tips rather than just putting others down, ok?
I have to say, I'm not convinced by that. Obviously, people do grab and elbow, but the psychology of self defence is such that people very rarely want to make a preemptive strike, because our instincts try everything to make us avoid a fight. If you're gonna do that, why not poke him in the eye and kick him in the nuts? Or just punch him? Looks like pulling his head towards your nose, as far as I can see - and why won't he won't flinch from a head grab? Not convinced.
i think is intended for CQC and not a casual fight, because CQC maybe considers that your oponent had protected the balls and the eyes or at least your oponet knows how to block hits on the balls and the eyes; you're right about the instinct and the eye's and nut's hits, but i guees balls and eyes are not ever available to hit, looks like a "just in case" video.
yeah of cause... just hold him! he wont du anything at all in a real fight of cause! then sthow an elbow (which is effective only at distances less than half a meter) from nearly 1.5 meters at him... sry, but this viw is kinda bullshit
Thats why you: A: pracitice practice practice. got to build muscle memory, then spar with a buddy to build technique. It also helps to have more than one move. Like he said elbow strikes are for extremely close quarter combat so you'll need a couple of moves to get inside his guard. B: don't get in a fight.
Punching? NOT recommended! Anyone who's ever been in a fight realizes that punching bone-to-bone only results in a damaged hand, twisted wrist, and the loss of one of your "weapons". The elbow packs way more power, does way more damage - easier on your body...harder on his.
Oh...and BJJ? While you're attempting your arm bar, his buddy will be stomping on your head. Secret to the groundfight? Get off the ground!
Comments are MUCH appreciated guys - even when you don't agree. Thank you!
@cqctraining Yeah I totally agree about the armbar, that why when stomps were allowed in pride that never worked except for fedor, nog, barnett and. . . wait where was I going with that, oh that's right it's a fucking stupid "point"
i see two things is that he was more power on his neck that his head its like of u were grabbing them by the wrist and it hurts more and does more damgage same idea hear
how is a super simple elbow strike more complicated? some people are more confortable with elbows. he just explained why it was more powerful, not made it any more complicated. in fact, a proper punch is harder to learn than an elbow.
i knocked someone out like this and they loss three teeth .. thanks bro
PISSDRO 1 month ago
Where the head goes, the body goes.
TheDieHard777 1 month ago
I thought you'd aim the head with your left to make him flinch, then use the recoil and deliver elbow in sort of a 1-2 fashion...or maybe if you actually grabbed him and then kneed him in the gut, then elbow down when he bends looks like a nice combination to work on..
alleygh0st 1 month ago
Your not even hitting with the elbow. Please remove this video. There giving people the wrong way to defend yourself. The best way to win a fight. Is not to be in one.
TheGooser123 2 months ago
@TheGooser123
Have fun getting your shit stolen because you can't throw a punch (not saying this video is worth shit.)
TheSonorama21 1 month ago
Ok then, what do you do when he gets mad and hits you back?
eluap 2 months ago
@eluap you cant predict that, there are a million and one things you can do in a street fight, this vid is just demonstrating on technique, you cant make a 5 or 10 minute or indeed any length youtube video covering all the angles of what could possibly happen in a street fight, "what do you do when the guy gets mad and hits you back?" well you could block or slip and punch him or elbow him or knee him, the point is you wont know exactly what technique to use until you are in that situation
bigmanoooo1 2 months ago
I know it from personal expierience, the elbow is one of your best weapons, trust me.
It's fast, while your opponent dodges or blocks your punch, you are already close enough for an elbow strike. I delivered one elbow strike to the left cheek bone. The flesh was ripped, and the bleeding was bad. the elbow is perfect for self defence.
Neeverseen 3 months ago
i joind this program and paid the 7 bucks and its been over 2 weeks and still no video...i emaild them and got no responds and called there number and its not a working number i feel like i have been scammed and warn anyone not to fall forf it too
imobboss43 4 months ago
i sent my email but didnt get a confirmation email
SantiagoSernaAZ 5 months ago
the way i see it is physics, speed vs velocity of his face + the power generated by ur arm
upmostmountain 5 months ago
one of my favorite moves! only i like to use the point of my elbow to the side of his head; the jaw hinge or the temple. works good off a block or when he tries to grab you. i see a lot of comments, but its worked great for me.
MrWayne1701 8 months ago
... why not just avert a right punch and punch him in the throat? 18lbs of pressure closes trachea? That's less than a nice punch in the first place, and then he's dead. It's a lot easier to kill people than it is to fight them.
Zeikfreakiful 8 months ago
Why would anyone grab a persons head while doing a elbow strike? You need the other arm to defend yourself as you attack and if you don"t , the person your attacking could give a elbow strike right back to you.
jman11097 10 months ago
... continued - Even though I don't like it to begin with, this could really only be executed in very minimal situations. I keep my hands up, and to queue a back of the head grab, will likely cause my reflex to place my hands on both your shoulders (at that point you can't elbow me), then I am going to knee the heck out of your appendix/hip area. The only time I lead with a preparatory move ,etc, is if it will totally take them off balance, or I can get them to cross.
raredesign 11 months ago
@raredesign ...well to clarify...not just off balance or cross, but also for faints or lead-ins which will set it up nicely.
My personal preference and experience...take it or leave it. No big deal to me.
I am just saying be cautious with this type of move.
My apologies to the poster of this vid, but I just think there are much better tactics to focus on then something this risky. I would put a move like this in the category of other flashy moves such as scissor kicks.
raredesign 11 months ago
@raredesign and just so everyone knows, I am not opposed to elbows by any means. I am a firm believer in using the elbows and knees. I feel like that is common sense, but don't try to bring a dudes head down to your elbow if he is not weary. Maybe I would vertically strike him in the throat or something with a rising elbow, or after a nice front kick buckled him, probably brace his head and smash my knee into his nose...man...now I want to go fight...
raredesign 11 months ago
This is a risky way to execute. Here is why:
- Bodies are not rigid like the dummy in this vid, so you have to account for flex which can leave your arm extended and no head in your hands.
- The act of pulling and pushing at the same time is not an efficient way to execute precision. You are moving outside of what you control by bringing in another variable. Ultimately you are dependent on the weakness, slow reflexes, and inability for them to counter. -- continued...
raredesign 11 months ago
One thing i haven't seen any of you post, except for how weak, useless, soft the elbow is...
let's get to the fundamentals, it can be a great hit, and it's much more likely than to hit with a right hook, if you're that close, you have no momentum with your right hook.
Ok, listen people, it disgusts me half of you don't point this out, or any of you.
You have to push off with your toes, SNAP YOUR HIPS, THEN your shoulders THEN your elbow. Its a WHOLE BODY movement. FFS people, ur clueles
ProphetofGod 11 months ago
No a bad tip!
MrQuackism 11 months ago
Very good, you're a great instructer ! Thanks for your other "secret of uppercuts" vid too, great stuff. This is the kind of practical, instantly usable & memorable things I'm after. Pls. don't be discouraged by the ingrates.
Drag4401 1 year ago
people please: NEVER do this move! it's useless
When you want to hit the guy with the elbow, don't grab his head because you will be defensless and if he decides to punch you, you're fucked. And also because in the vid the guy is hitting with the SIDE of the elbow, which deliver less power (cause it's the softer part of the elbow)
seusgordo 1 year ago
@seusgordo - Appreciate input. In response:
1. "if he decides to punch you": You're not in slow motion. Your attack must be quick or you'll never pull it off. At close quarters combat distance, you're not in "punching range". In martial arts, it's called "trapping range" so not an issue.
2. Elbow strike: The entire arm from the elbow to the wrist (when your palm is facing you) is like a lead pipe. Best to hit just near the elbow but anywhere along the hard forearm will deliver power.
cqctraining 1 year ago 10
@cqctraining that's true, in fact what I wanted to say wasn't that it is useless, sorry, I wanted to say that there are better moves. I do Krav Maga for a while now and you probaly know that there are simple elbow strike moves where you use only 1 arm to strike the opponent in the side of the jaw and your other hand stays in the defense position, close to your body. why it's better to do this simple one? Because in most combats u can forget 70% of what u learned, especially complex moves
seusgordo 1 year ago
@seusgordo - Understood. We post articles from all positions and circumstances because in a real street fight, you have to be prepared for anything for self defense. This self defense technique is only to show one possible martial arts move to give more power to the elbow strike. There are other methods, including 1 elbow strikes as well as other areas of the elbow to strike with.
Professional feedback is always welcome on any of my videos. Thanks for the follow up!
cqctraining 1 year ago
@cqctraining - Hi, Just wanted to let you know that your palm should alway face your opponent when elbowing. Thanks.
PS: Just for the record, I am a Muay Thai Instructor, former pro fighter, ex-mil and currently a CPO. Thanks
MrGolfo 1 month ago
@seusgordo. You are right. This guy should not be trying to teach others. He still needs to learn the basics!
NIETZSCHEAN14 1 year ago
@seusgordo How will you be defenseless? The side that you grab the head with is protected, because he wont be throwing any haymakers from that position, and unless youre just grabbing the back of his head and standing there, then your elbow will already be implanted into his face. He MIGHT throw a shitty uppercut, but it's highly unlikely. Grab his head and throw your elbow, he will either be knocked out cold or dazed.
Hayashirice911 10 months ago
If your lead hand is near enough to grab the back of his head, why don't you just palm heel him in the jawline with the lead hand with a slight shuffle forward to bring your body weight in to play? That can be a main blow by itself or to set up a heavier blow with your rear hand.
giantshrek1 1 year ago
@giantshrek1 - I don't disagree. Actually, I have another video on this very principle that you've stated (speed vs. power). In a real fight, the palm heel would by my first choice.
Overall, the self defense technique in this video is better at simply showing how to add more power to an elbow strike in certain situations.
Thanks for your input. Much appreciated!
cqctraining 1 year ago
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ThaTrillMagician 1 year ago
i like how they dressed up the dummy
jayrock22ing 1 year ago
@jayrock22ing - You should always try to make your self defense training as realistic as possible. The B.O.B. training dummy works great for this but you can do things like put a ski cap on him, clothes (even pants as shown); neclaces (some street bling? ;-) etc.
cqctraining 1 year ago
From somone that has boxed for 6 years, I also did muay thai for 2. This looks difficult to actually acheive. Im sure it works perfectly when executed, but i didnt hear you bringing up different ways around what your opponent would be doing while you were grabbing his head, from someone who knows what he was doing i would expect nothing more than a right hook over the top of my grab unless you hide your chin behind shoulder but even then i would most likely get smacked. Nice vid though L:O
zouga 1 year ago
@zouga - It's definitely not a black and white self defense technique. But then again, nothing really is in a real street fight, right?
A lot can go wrong with this technique if it doesn't have enough speed to it, especially if you're using it as a first strike. It's best to use it as a follow up to get more power into your elbow strike.
In the end, it's simply another tool to be added to your tool box of self defense techniques.
cqctraining 1 year ago
this concept reminds me of a "sandwiching concept" used in Ed Parkers Kempo as well as in several traditional Karate styles (if you examine some of the traditional Kata) I was taught to deliver the elbows in a "swimming like" motion employed very close in elbow knee clinch range in conjunction with punching kneeing and clinching. You can use this method if he does and initial stike at you the grabbing motion being the block.
TheSubwaysurfer 1 year ago 2
@TheSubwaysurfer - That's an EXCELLENT analogy (the "swimming" motion). This puts a lot of upper body momentum into the elbow strike. It largely depends up on body position because if he's taller than you (which I set my training dummy to be), then you won't be able to get that downward motion into the strike, but coming from above, it works great.
Kempo is a very direct martial art and employs a lot of power moves. I didn't realize they also taught clinch work.
Thanks for following up!
cqctraining 1 year ago
I agree that the strike works best in close in combination with other strikes and part of a combo where the person is already dazed. attempting to grab the back of the head/neck while the body is in motion is the same as if you would throw a jab at him. The motion will cause him to move BACK. destruction on the low line, ie foot stomp,shin/gorin kick which are longer range wpns sets this up better.
TheSubwaysurfer 1 year ago
@TheSubwaysurfer - good point. The body is programmed to flinch away from a perceived threat and you'll need a lot of speed to be able to quickly get a hand behind the head for this self defense technique.
In addition, coming up from below the line of sight may give you crucial advantage in pulling this move off.
Thanks for the valuable input SubwaySurfer! Your experience is welcome on this channel! Keep it up!
~ Jeff
cqctraining 1 year ago
clearly an arm chair expert, first it very hard to control sum1 in the clinch with 1 hand (basically imppossible, they can pull away easily, so what this guy just said is ineffective unless ure openent is already hurt or gassed
91usmcsniper91 1 year ago
@91usmcsniper91 - To clarify, this self defense technique has nothing to do with controlling someone in the clinch. It's about delivering more speed and power into an elbow strike in close quarters combat.
There are other self defense videos related to the clinch in my channel and you're welcome to view them and comment as well (even if you disagree) but I ask that you remain professional and avoid derogatory comments. We can disagree without being disagreeable, right?
Thanks for commenting.
cqctraining 1 year ago
@cqctraining but when your pulling sum1 on the back of the head, thats a 1 handed clinch, which is why im sayin its hard 2 do
91usmcsniper91 1 year ago
@91usmcsniper91 - I better understand your point about the clinch and I guess it could be viewed as a "half clinch". But there's no illusion that you're going to get the same kind of leverage with only one hand and not having the strength of your whole upper body to help you.
Still appreciate you sharing your insight...still want you to comment more on this and any other self defense videos...still want to make sure you contribute professionally.
Thanks again.
cqctraining 1 year ago
Now lets see you do that on a guy with arms! Just kidding good points made in this video thanks!
ThirdEyeLight 1 year ago
I think elbow are a very effective follow-up move in a combination. This way it is telegraphed even less as they are already in "battle mode". Grabbing the back of the opponent's head as shown in this video also could lead to vicious knees to their face if the elbow(s) doesn't do the job.
sportvandora 1 year ago
@sportvandora - nice points and you're right...elbows are a great "power move" to be used in combinations in a close quarters combat self defense scenario.
Thanks for the valuable comment sportvandora!
~ Jeff
cqctraining 1 year ago
@cqctraining Nice. I also train in Krav Maga. I like your tips, and am subscribing. The more people out there training, the less scum bags can get away with!
lastwithpaganblood87 1 year ago
@lastwithpaganblood87 - Thanks! Yes...Krav is a great system to train with and I've found most Krav Maga instructors to be very open minded when it comes to training in other self defense techniques as well.
Good luck with your self defense training!
cqctraining 1 year ago
@mrphilthify People who say what you say as loud as you say it...usually can't when the time comes.
Abobojo 1 year ago
@Abobojo - thanks for policing up the comments Abobojo! ;-)
The person you responded to has been deleted.
I welcome open debate and feedback on my channel as long as it's respectful and professional. A rarity yes...but with help from others like you, we can keep it a learning experience for all.
Gracias amigo! ;-)
~ Jeff
cqctraining 1 year ago
young people and women ....please do not try this in a real situation!!!!! bad bad bad
jayvidal 1 year ago
@jayvidal - You're right that I wouldn't see a child doing this, but I make no distinctions with women and have seen much smaller women pull this technique off beautifully. In fact, I've seen a smaller woman headbutt and knockout a larger man in one shot.
Don't be too quick to judge the ladies when it comes to self defense Jayvidal! ;-)
cqctraining 1 year ago
Don't forgot to open your hand when you throw an elbow
shiftyghost 1 year ago
crappy stance break his knee with 1 kick :S
CqbJunkie 1 year ago
@CqbJunkie - Actually the dummy doesn't have knees so it couldn't be demonstrated.
You're welcome to chime in with comments and feedback, but only if you can add valuable contributions in a professional manner. If you can, I'd like to hear your tips and constructive feedback. The more comments the better we can all learn and continue to better our self defense training, you know?
Up to you CQBJunkie.
You're welcome back if you can bring value.
~ Jeff
cqctraining 1 year ago
do you think that the other person would just let himself get grabbed? im pretty sure he will dodge , get down or something he is not just going to stand there thinking "oh shit he grabbed the back of my neck what do i do"
lozer184 1 year ago
@lozer184 - The key with this self defense technique is the timing and speed. You're right that no one will just LET themselves be grabbed, but reaction is always slower than action.
If you take action quickly, you'll easily be able to get your hand behind his neck before he can punch or dodge. Not a problem. Your forward momentum will close the gap as well and the pulling forward behind his head or neck at the very least will give you a more stable target to strike.
Thanks for posting!
cqctraining 1 year ago
cqctraining, fan of Krav Maga at all?
lastwithpaganblood87 1 year ago
@lastwithpaganblood87 - Yes. We have a few in our network and I train at the local Krav school to keep the learning coming. Definitely a fan!
cqctraining 1 year ago
but while catching his head and preparing to strike you're without the protection of your arms and can get punches....i don't get this...better defend a bit and counter attack rapidly.
Arcanestyledemonlife 1 year ago
I would use this "DIRTY BOXING" technique after a combo or after Ive already closed the gap.. His elbos are less effective because he's throwing more of a forearm. Elbos should be thrown from a 12:00-6:00 motion allowing you to use the pt. of your elbo; this inflicts more pain.
bootygrams 2 years ago
an elbow done properly has enough power where you shouldn't need to pull his head down with the other hand. you're better off keeping your other hand up to defend, or going with a punch. odds are if you put your hand behind thier head, theyd pull away from you and strike you when youre off balanced.
millec60 2 years ago
@millec60 - Valid argument millec60. Thanks for posting.
One reason for the grab is to avoid the natural flinch response of the attacker that will limit the power of your elbow strike because you're hitting a target that is moving away from you.
Comment is much appreciated!
~ Jeff
cqctraining 1 year ago
this dude has no defense against attacker punches btw.
hasteksi66 2 years ago 2
i would only do that after landing a hard solid punch maybe not even at all
commenter620 2 years ago
i prefer the metal gear solid CQC :P haha. joke
nickholai 2 years ago 17
@nickholai if Snake was only real...oh well Dear Santa...
shan9usfc 1 year ago
crap... wasted energy, time and movements... 1) step towards your subject, 2) reach out to position hand behind subject's head, 3) pull subject's head towards you, 4) deliver elbow. this goes against everything we learn about self defense or CQC. Sounds like something from an old WWF wrestling move. A skilled individual could hit this fool 2 to 3 times before he could deliver that elbow that way. This kinda garbage can get people hurt bad... thank god for being able to leave comments on vids.
ldmak90 2 years ago 11
@ldmak90 - You're always welcome to leave comments ldmak90 but ones that start out with immature responses like "crap" get a "one warning" notice.
I welcome open debate and comments on all of my self defense videos. All I ask is that you provide value by explaining your position in a professional way and offer your own advice. Your comment is nothing but judgment with none of your own thoughts. That's easy to do.
Next time, offer your own tips rather than just putting others down, ok?
cqctraining 1 year ago
@cqctraining fair enough... thanks
ldmak90 1 year ago
@ldmak90 - Thanks brother! I look forward to hearing your input on future videos and feel free to browse the current ones and add to the discussion.
Take care...and be safe!
~ Jeff
cqctraining 1 year ago
I have to say, I'm not convinced by that. Obviously, people do grab and elbow, but the psychology of self defence is such that people very rarely want to make a preemptive strike, because our instincts try everything to make us avoid a fight. If you're gonna do that, why not poke him in the eye and kick him in the nuts? Or just punch him? Looks like pulling his head towards your nose, as far as I can see - and why won't he won't flinch from a head grab? Not convinced.
Ghostfuture 2 years ago
i think is intended for CQC and not a casual fight, because CQC maybe considers that your oponent had protected the balls and the eyes or at least your oponet knows how to block hits on the balls and the eyes; you're right about the instinct and the eye's and nut's hits, but i guees balls and eyes are not ever available to hit, looks like a "just in case" video.
nickholai 2 years ago
cause you pull him in
THEPIELORD42 2 years ago
its a waste of an arm to use it for simply generating more power for the elbow strike.
maxgunn555 2 years ago
yeah of cause... just hold him! he wont du anything at all in a real fight of cause! then sthow an elbow (which is effective only at distances less than half a meter) from nearly 1.5 meters at him... sry, but this viw is kinda bullshit
GammaDelt 2 years ago
uhh yeah dont 4get that u dont think the same in a fight so yeah, WONT WORK!
SilentBladeStudios 2 years ago
Thats why you: A: pracitice practice practice. got to build muscle memory, then spar with a buddy to build technique. It also helps to have more than one move. Like he said elbow strikes are for extremely close quarter combat so you'll need a couple of moves to get inside his guard. B: don't get in a fight.
squidb8 2 years ago 2
depends on how you do it
your right about how ppl fight so the best thing to do is adapt to how ppl fight using wat you know
MK3KaBaL 2 years ago
I will use this next time I fight a guy w/ no arms.
Nobama0000 2 years ago
Lol.
Ghostfuture 2 years ago
this move will be very hard to apply. because of the enemy defence stance. it will block your elbow.
windalfinc 2 years ago
technique, reality, whatever. a good idea is a good idea
and this guy's got at least two of them
analihilator 2 years ago
wow! a secret elbow strike,what a joke. Its these type of instructors that give Reality based self defence a bad name.
Check out the crappy technique on this guy
sciarra 2 years ago
wouldnt want to be on the receiving end of that shit
MrPwnag3 2 years ago
Punching? NOT recommended! Anyone who's ever been in a fight realizes that punching bone-to-bone only results in a damaged hand, twisted wrist, and the loss of one of your "weapons". The elbow packs way more power, does way more damage - easier on your body...harder on his.
Oh...and BJJ? While you're attempting your arm bar, his buddy will be stomping on your head. Secret to the groundfight? Get off the ground!
Comments are MUCH appreciated guys - even when you don't agree. Thank you!
cqctraining 2 years ago 5
who said anything about punching bone?
chronocide 2 years ago
well its better than trying to hit wath a flop XD
MK3KaBaL 2 years ago
@cqctraining Yeah I totally agree about the armbar, that why when stomps were allowed in pride that never worked except for fedor, nog, barnett and. . . wait where was I going with that, oh that's right it's a fucking stupid "point"
madax132 1 year ago
why complicate this? if you can grab the neck, you can punch the nose.
chronocide 2 years ago
i see two things is that he was more power on his neck that his head its like of u were grabbing them by the wrist and it hurts more and does more damgage same idea hear
patrickwise06 2 years ago
how is a super simple elbow strike more complicated? some people are more confortable with elbows. he just explained why it was more powerful, not made it any more complicated. in fact, a proper punch is harder to learn than an elbow.
yieldingbamboo 2 years ago
wat happens when he punchesin the balls or kidney
BK345678 2 years ago
Street Close Quarters Sambo
davencin10 2 years ago
Brazilian jujitsu is the KING of street fighting, i'd take a year of training BJJ over a year of this any day.
Cagebreaker21 2 years ago
i see biting being a problem
patrickwise06 2 years ago
what are you talking about biting, do you even know what your talking about
Cagebreaker21 2 years ago
Very detailed and helpful
Mirza532 2 years ago