Ryan was right. In 2011, I got a job because a company was willing to hire. Would they have hired if their taxes were increased? I don't know. But I am grateful that I got a job, and believe it was because my company was not overly taxed.
@syhcoach Actually that is just your delusion about what have worked.
We need to look at the big picture about hiring instead of your single case. Company are willing to hire for many reasons, and taxes is actually a very small part of it.
Obama actually gave tax cuts to small businesses since small businesses are the actual job creators. Ryan's "job creators" are actually the lobbyist corps, so please get your fact straight.
This is why the U.S is sad, we always "guess" what worked.
I Believe This Was A VIdeo Clip Of ABC News' Good Morning America's Vote 2010 Report On Paul Ryan On House Republicans' Pledge To America On Thursday Morning, September 23, 2010.
Ryan's plan would give billions more to the insurance companies via vouchers. And where does the money for those vouchers come from? You and me, that's who!
Can you say CORPORATE WELFARE??? This nigger (Ryan) should know better! F U Ryan and the rest of your corporate slave (GOP) buddies!
If Rep. Paul Ryan is so worried about the budget and entitlement reform there is a way to fix both. Further tax the rich land owners, the celebrities and the corporations. that will help pay for entitlements to help support the indigent, the poor and the disabled.
No argument that the liberals who blame the imaginary "free market" and "deregulation" for the recession are laughably ignorant and should do the world a favor and go play in the freeway. But the GOP massively sucks. I'm a libertarian and will never trust these frauds until they purge, purge, purge.
War is for the Health & Growth of the NeoCon Statists.
According to the SIPRI Yearbook 2010, the United States spends 43% of the WORLD'S military budget. The US Debt + Unfunded Liabilities EXCEEDS $200 TRILLION!
The US is BANKRUPT and we are STILL defending Europe.
The US Empire has 700+ US military bases OCCUPYING over 135 nations PRODUCING hatred & jihad RESISTANCE!
Trading Life, liberty & Treasure for a FLASE sense of security while growing gov’t tyranny is NeoCon CRAZY!
Why did they leave out Ryans' "Roadmap"from the Pledge? Why is everything in the Pledge so vague? If Republicans want me and others to take them seriously they better take US seriously and be very specific about what they plan on doing.
I wish George and his liberal clown friends would stop telling us that tax cuts have to be paid for. The money is MINE,not the GOVERNMENTS. It does not have to be paid for.
After two failed GOP wars of choice, a wreck economy, and tax cuts that created jobs overseas, I'll never be fooled again by the GOP elite. (Notice the congressman didn't say he would give up HIS government pension or government health care to balance the budget.)
Ryan heads in the right direction but the truth is that a exit strategy is needed to bring the nation back into constitutional alignment.
A exit strategy for Social Security and Medicare. Remove all the regulations and collusion on medical care to bring back a true 100% free market medical capitalism system which would make us the medical nation to the world with the greatest incentives. And create a incentive system for charity based care for the needy.
@kmg501 You are crazy, you suggest more of the same and that will only get more of the same. I have an idea to save SS and medicare, Why don't the republicans put back the 2.5 trillion surplus they stole from SS to pay for their wars and tax breaks to the rich, so they can try to force austerity on Americans and all the people that don't want SS and medicare sign out of the programs by waiver. That fixes That. now end the wars and increase taxes on the rich and corporations and regulate!!!!!.
@kmg501 When the Glass Steagal act was abolished it was one step toward freeing banks to fleece the American taxpayer, Lets see what else deregulation got us, oh yea NAFTA and an American import tax of 2.5% while we export to other countries like china at a rate of 25% import tax, Thats just f--ing brilliant deregulation policy. Have you ever been to another country off the Americas and purchased medicine, if you had you would know that Americans pay 200% more for the same product. BRILLIANT!!!
I'm opposed to NAFTA. America is financing medicine in other countries because of our own bad laws & foreign policy.
Focusing on Glass Steagall is misguided. Glass Steagall provided a check but the lack of it had little do with the mechanisms creating the housing bubble. The bubble was fueled by a fraudulent interest rate, the GSE's gobbling up bad properties and a government promoting housing for people without sound fiscal policies.
@kmg501 Some of your ideas are correct but you are misled about Glass Steagal and the relationship between commercial and investment banks, Glass Steagal kept the two seperate because the fed is obligated to backup (fdic) deposites made by citizens and invested by banks and their investing activities were limited to very safe investments, investment banks were on there own until they were joined with commercial banks through the abolishment of Glass Steagal. Your med. opinion is mostly wrong.
I never said that repealing it was good. I said you were misguided to focus on it because there were other large forces at work. And this isn't about an opinion at this point, it is historical facts that demonstrate the governments role in the bubble creation and the blow out.
By the way, were you for or against the 2008 bailouts?
@kmg501 You are very close, the US government does give aid for meds to some very poor countries and the med companies have lobbied corrupt politicians to pass laws to allow them to charge what ever they want, they can't get away with this in foreign countries because if the price is not fair they will copy the meds and produce them theirselves 200% cheaper. As far as the med companies needing to recoop their research investments, it is mostly paid for with taxpayer money, so thats a fail.
You're even admitting that Americans are being allowed to be forced to subsidize other nations price restrictions. That's why I am not a free trader when it comes to the international tier because many other nations do not practice free trade.
We have this exactly backwards. Domestically we have anti free trade laws & policies and internationally we have free but not fair trade. The paradigm on those two tiers need to be reversed.
@kmg501 I am not say we are forced to subsidies this, I am saying that the med companies can not get a 200% markup on the meds in other civilized countries because the will say screw you and your pantent. we will make it ourselves. And in some cases they sell the product at a fair price and in some cases the meds are copied. It's a pretty simple concept. What I was saying is Americans are being played like fools by the med companies, healthcare system and health insurance companies in America.
So you're okay with fraud, theft and racketeering done by other nations and then blame American companies for this. Sorry but that is highly irrational. And you are failing to see how Americans are are being forced to make up the cost difference.
@kmg501 Hey, these countries are protecting themselves againt extortion by foreign companies and Americans need to do the same against these corporate giants that are in most part not even owned by Americans, yet they are American companies. While it is true what they are doing is theft of patent, their actions are logical. When a med company gets $10.00 for a pill that cast less than .10 cents to produce their claim of lost profit is nonexistent but the extortion is still there.
Charging what the market will bare is not extortion. You clearly do not know what extortion is and why you would even attempt to complain about that when you then go on to support theft of our IP really bares out that you are unashamedly hypocritical when it comes to laws & ethics.
I suppose you want medicines for free? You advocate slave labor to? Also you did not answer the question as to if you were for or against the 2008 bailouts.
@kmg501 When the food corporations have sucessfully patented all food as genetically alterd patents and make it illegal to grow natural foods or have unaltered animals because it might corrupt their holdings, we will all be guilty of theft of patent to survive because they will try to starve us into submission to a NWO. It's not a fairy tale, look, listen and think. Why is there legislation to extend these patents from 10 years to 70 years, there should be no patents on genetic alterations.
You keep switching topics and don't answering questions. I'm not in favor of increasing patent length time. I'm also not in favor of the current IP law. I'm also not a supporter of a company like Monsanto or genetically engineered foods. I'm okay with cross breeding but not gene altering.
If you don't like those things then you should be like me and be against corporatism. You know how corporatism is enabled? By having a massive govt. Read the following
@kmg501 I only offered an example of patent misuse by corporations. I know how corporations have been enabled to destroy the economy and I think Ryan and the other tea party retards are wrong, they only want to give more power to corporations, they need to have less power and the way to do that is to regulate them and enforce the regulations with jail time, long jail time. we can have smaller government but not in the vision of the people like Ryan, they are plain and simply corporate puppets.
You're still not answering questions and it's obvious that your partisan hate has blinded you to the fact that the establishment parties are the one that enables corporatism. You keep trying to blame people who don't have the power to fix anything and ignoring that only last year the Democrats had a super majority and had control of congress from January of 2007.
You are not a rational person. You're a hard partisan who doesn't understand how it took decades to get to this point.
@kmg501 How many years was Bush president, 8 years. And after Obama got into office, how many times did the Rebublicans filibuster during to obstruct, they behaved like spoiled little brats that had to share the toys with everybody in the classroom. Your just spewing out bought and paid for corporate republican puppet talking points. Face it Republicans are finished, the public is waking up and they are already turning on the republitards, no amount of internet propaganda swamping will help.
George: Ryan has explained his budget proposals and the Roadmap a thousand times, yet you still sit there like a jerk and try to say he and the other Republicans haven't proposed anything. It's so frustrating to hear shows like this and other MSM continue to mislead the public about Republicans having nothing to offer.
@schmij8 The Ryan plan is simple, austerity for middle class and poor and tax breaks for their corporate backers. Paul Ryan is an idiot and a puppet that needs to be voted out of politics forever along with Boehner, McConnell and a few others I can think of. The news stations that are misleading people are FOX, CNN, and now even MSNBC has been taken over by the right wing corporate agenda, they peddle nothing but utter republican fear monger nonsense. END THE WARS, Vote D. Kucinich 2012 pres.
Ryan was right. In 2011, I got a job because a company was willing to hire. Would they have hired if their taxes were increased? I don't know. But I am grateful that I got a job, and believe it was because my company was not overly taxed.
syhcoach 6 months ago
@syhcoach Actually that is just your delusion about what have worked.
We need to look at the big picture about hiring instead of your single case. Company are willing to hire for many reasons, and taxes is actually a very small part of it.
Obama actually gave tax cuts to small businesses since small businesses are the actual job creators. Ryan's "job creators" are actually the lobbyist corps, so please get your fact straight.
This is why the U.S is sad, we always "guess" what worked.
Neosaigo 4 months ago
I Believe This Was A VIdeo Clip Of ABC News' Good Morning America's Vote 2010 Report On Paul Ryan On House Republicans' Pledge To America On Thursday Morning, September 23, 2010.
radiodj1520 7 months ago
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Ryan's plan would give billions more to the insurance companies via vouchers. And where does the money for those vouchers come from? You and me, that's who!
Can you say CORPORATE WELFARE??? This nigger (Ryan) should know better! F U Ryan and the rest of your corporate slave (GOP) buddies!
TheKmbt 9 months ago
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If Rep. Paul Ryan is so worried about the budget and entitlement reform there is a way to fix both. Further tax the rich land owners, the celebrities and the corporations. that will help pay for entitlements to help support the indigent, the poor and the disabled.
EMOTIONALLOGICABLE 11 months ago
No argument that the liberals who blame the imaginary "free market" and "deregulation" for the recession are laughably ignorant and should do the world a favor and go play in the freeway. But the GOP massively sucks. I'm a libertarian and will never trust these frauds until they purge, purge, purge.
Both parties blow.
38DSB 1 year ago
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Throw out NeoCon & Democrat Keynesian Statist Progressives!
STOP Fascist Crony Corporatism, Illegal Immigration & Marxist Redistributionist SLAVERY.
STOP Empire Building & Foreign Intervention with 700+ US military bases OCCUPYING over 135 nations PRODUCING hatred & jihad RESISTANCE!
Trade, NOT bribes/bombs Manipulation OR Isolationism!
Return to Constitutionally limited Gov't, Individual Liberty & Responsibility, Sound Money, FREE competition between FREE States & FREE people.
yakyakyak69 1 year ago
War is for the Health & Growth of the NeoCon Statists.
According to the SIPRI Yearbook 2010, the United States spends 43% of the WORLD'S military budget. The US Debt + Unfunded Liabilities EXCEEDS $200 TRILLION!
The US is BANKRUPT and we are STILL defending Europe.
The US Empire has 700+ US military bases OCCUPYING over 135 nations PRODUCING hatred & jihad RESISTANCE!
Trading Life, liberty & Treasure for a FLASE sense of security while growing gov’t tyranny is NeoCon CRAZY!
yakyakyak69 1 year ago
Why did they leave out Ryans' "Roadmap"from the Pledge? Why is everything in the Pledge so vague? If Republicans want me and others to take them seriously they better take US seriously and be very specific about what they plan on doing.
I wish George and his liberal clown friends would stop telling us that tax cuts have to be paid for. The money is MINE,not the GOVERNMENTS. It does not have to be paid for.
mcap52 1 year ago
Get It, georgie porgie pumpkin pie.
Conservatives are Honest.
Liberals Lie.
3martijns 1 year ago
After two failed GOP wars of choice, a wreck economy, and tax cuts that created jobs overseas, I'll never be fooled again by the GOP elite. (Notice the congressman didn't say he would give up HIS government pension or government health care to balance the budget.)
337noname 1 year ago
"an exit strategy"????? Ryan's plan does what is necessary for SS and Medicare to SURVIVE AT ALL !!!!!
catndryer 1 year ago
Ryan has to be on the GOP presidential ticket. I would prefer him at the top, but if not he is to me the lead contender for vice president.
FInalage2012 1 year ago
Ryan heads in the right direction but the truth is that a exit strategy is needed to bring the nation back into constitutional alignment.
A exit strategy for Social Security and Medicare. Remove all the regulations and collusion on medical care to bring back a true 100% free market medical capitalism system which would make us the medical nation to the world with the greatest incentives. And create a incentive system for charity based care for the needy.
Real solutions.
kmg501 1 year ago 7
@kmg501 You are crazy, you suggest more of the same and that will only get more of the same. I have an idea to save SS and medicare, Why don't the republicans put back the 2.5 trillion surplus they stole from SS to pay for their wars and tax breaks to the rich, so they can try to force austerity on Americans and all the people that don't want SS and medicare sign out of the programs by waiver. That fixes That. now end the wars and increase taxes on the rich and corporations and regulate!!!!!.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@daveusaz1218
It's funny that you call me crazy and then say I am suggesting "more of the same". We haven't had free market medicine since 1965.
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kmg501 8 months ago
@kmg501 When the Glass Steagal act was abolished it was one step toward freeing banks to fleece the American taxpayer, Lets see what else deregulation got us, oh yea NAFTA and an American import tax of 2.5% while we export to other countries like china at a rate of 25% import tax, Thats just f--ing brilliant deregulation policy. Have you ever been to another country off the Americas and purchased medicine, if you had you would know that Americans pay 200% more for the same product. BRILLIANT!!!
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@daveusaz1218
I'm opposed to NAFTA. America is financing medicine in other countries because of our own bad laws & foreign policy.
Focusing on Glass Steagall is misguided. Glass Steagall provided a check but the lack of it had little do with the mechanisms creating the housing bubble. The bubble was fueled by a fraudulent interest rate, the GSE's gobbling up bad properties and a government promoting housing for people without sound fiscal policies.
tinyurl . com /yyd3uey
watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
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kmg501 8 months ago
@kmg501 Some of your ideas are correct but you are misled about Glass Steagal and the relationship between commercial and investment banks, Glass Steagal kept the two seperate because the fed is obligated to backup (fdic) deposites made by citizens and invested by banks and their investing activities were limited to very safe investments, investment banks were on there own until they were joined with commercial banks through the abolishment of Glass Steagal. Your med. opinion is mostly wrong.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@daveusaz1218
I never said that repealing it was good. I said you were misguided to focus on it because there were other large forces at work. And this isn't about an opinion at this point, it is historical facts that demonstrate the governments role in the bubble creation and the blow out.
By the way, were you for or against the 2008 bailouts?
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kmg501 8 months ago
@kmg501 You are very close, the US government does give aid for meds to some very poor countries and the med companies have lobbied corrupt politicians to pass laws to allow them to charge what ever they want, they can't get away with this in foreign countries because if the price is not fair they will copy the meds and produce them theirselves 200% cheaper. As far as the med companies needing to recoop their research investments, it is mostly paid for with taxpayer money, so thats a fail.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@daveusaz1218
You're even admitting that Americans are being allowed to be forced to subsidize other nations price restrictions. That's why I am not a free trader when it comes to the international tier because many other nations do not practice free trade.
We have this exactly backwards. Domestically we have anti free trade laws & policies and internationally we have free but not fair trade. The paradigm on those two tiers need to be reversed.
Ross Perot had this all correct decades ago.
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kmg501 8 months ago
@kmg501 I am not say we are forced to subsidies this, I am saying that the med companies can not get a 200% markup on the meds in other civilized countries because the will say screw you and your pantent. we will make it ourselves. And in some cases they sell the product at a fair price and in some cases the meds are copied. It's a pretty simple concept. What I was saying is Americans are being played like fools by the med companies, healthcare system and health insurance companies in America.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@daveusaz1218
So you're okay with fraud, theft and racketeering done by other nations and then blame American companies for this. Sorry but that is highly irrational. And you are failing to see how Americans are are being forced to make up the cost difference.
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kmg501 8 months ago
@kmg501 Hey, these countries are protecting themselves againt extortion by foreign companies and Americans need to do the same against these corporate giants that are in most part not even owned by Americans, yet they are American companies. While it is true what they are doing is theft of patent, their actions are logical. When a med company gets $10.00 for a pill that cast less than .10 cents to produce their claim of lost profit is nonexistent but the extortion is still there.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@daveusaz1218
Charging what the market will bare is not extortion. You clearly do not know what extortion is and why you would even attempt to complain about that when you then go on to support theft of our IP really bares out that you are unashamedly hypocritical when it comes to laws & ethics.
I suppose you want medicines for free? You advocate slave labor to? Also you did not answer the question as to if you were for or against the 2008 bailouts.
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kmg501 8 months ago
@kmg501 When the food corporations have sucessfully patented all food as genetically alterd patents and make it illegal to grow natural foods or have unaltered animals because it might corrupt their holdings, we will all be guilty of theft of patent to survive because they will try to starve us into submission to a NWO. It's not a fairy tale, look, listen and think. Why is there legislation to extend these patents from 10 years to 70 years, there should be no patents on genetic alterations.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@daveusaz1218
You keep switching topics and don't answering questions. I'm not in favor of increasing patent length time. I'm also not in favor of the current IP law. I'm also not a supporter of a company like Monsanto or genetically engineered foods. I'm okay with cross breeding but not gene altering.
If you don't like those things then you should be like me and be against corporatism. You know how corporatism is enabled? By having a massive govt. Read the following
tinyurl . com /govt-failer
kmg501 8 months ago
@kmg501 I only offered an example of patent misuse by corporations. I know how corporations have been enabled to destroy the economy and I think Ryan and the other tea party retards are wrong, they only want to give more power to corporations, they need to have less power and the way to do that is to regulate them and enforce the regulations with jail time, long jail time. we can have smaller government but not in the vision of the people like Ryan, they are plain and simply corporate puppets.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@daveusaz1218
You're still not answering questions and it's obvious that your partisan hate has blinded you to the fact that the establishment parties are the one that enables corporatism. You keep trying to blame people who don't have the power to fix anything and ignoring that only last year the Democrats had a super majority and had control of congress from January of 2007.
You are not a rational person. You're a hard partisan who doesn't understand how it took decades to get to this point.
kmg501 8 months ago
@kmg501 How many years was Bush president, 8 years. And after Obama got into office, how many times did the Rebublicans filibuster during to obstruct, they behaved like spoiled little brats that had to share the toys with everybody in the classroom. Your just spewing out bought and paid for corporate republican puppet talking points. Face it Republicans are finished, the public is waking up and they are already turning on the republitards, no amount of internet propaganda swamping will help.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
@kmg501 if you want that just travel to the day before the great depression
Mrinebriation 4 months ago
May I kindly ask....
... did Conservative's ardent opposition to financial regulation HELP create jobs?
Or did subprimes and Credit Default Swaps cause the greatest job loss in our lifetime?
......... which Conservatives now blame on the next guy.....
......... repackage that same COrporate loving policy in Jesus and the flag
....and re-sell in a "new" "Contract with America"
.... which is AGAIN the same policies that caused the failure in the first place!
HopeForPeaceNow 1 year ago
George: Ryan has explained his budget proposals and the Roadmap a thousand times, yet you still sit there like a jerk and try to say he and the other Republicans haven't proposed anything. It's so frustrating to hear shows like this and other MSM continue to mislead the public about Republicans having nothing to offer.
schmij8 1 year ago 3
@schmij8 The Ryan plan is simple, austerity for middle class and poor and tax breaks for their corporate backers. Paul Ryan is an idiot and a puppet that needs to be voted out of politics forever along with Boehner, McConnell and a few others I can think of. The news stations that are misleading people are FOX, CNN, and now even MSNBC has been taken over by the right wing corporate agenda, they peddle nothing but utter republican fear monger nonsense. END THE WARS, Vote D. Kucinich 2012 pres.
daveusaz1218 8 months ago
Please REPEAL Obamacare completely, not just REFORMING it!
SCRAP IT and start OVER.
NWsubmom 1 year ago
At least Ryan is admitting that the Republicans SCREWED up.
In that way he GETS IT.
IF the republicans take over BOTH Houses, they will have their FEET put to the FIRE.
They BETTER make good on their promises, or THEY will be OUT TOO!
NWsubmom 1 year ago
@NWsubmom i wouldnt hold my breathe. if they were serious they would be talking about this guy for speaker instead of numb nuts.
thedaoofplus1 1 year ago