How To Detune a Snowboard

[LIsurfa1717]

How would you suggest tuning a board that is going to be used predominantly in the park but both sending bigger kickers and jibbing? My last board had completely rounded edges and I felt like I had little or no control esp. on icier days, which I the east coast sees a lot of. Also, would a 2 deg bevel be a better option than a light or complete detune as it keeps a sharp edge on the board?

[thehouseboardshop]

@LIsurfa1717 2 -3 deg edge bevel all the way.

[Junkboy692]

What if you don't have a metal hardware filer? Can you use a filer used for fingernails?

[thehouseboardshop]

@Junkboy692 Never tried a nail file before, but i am guessing it wont work or it would take a really really really really long time... Your local snowboard shop, local hill or even your next door neighbor might have file one you can use.

[foreverforum260]

So I plan to detune my edges for more park riding for now. But, I am mostly a pow rider. If I detune then sharpen and go back and forth, will I eventually loose my edge together after some time?

[thehouseboardshop]

@foreverforum260 YES you will loose all the steel edge if you plan to try to go back and forth...BEVEL your base edge...we're releasing an updated version of this vid soon, stay tuned (pun)...

[foreverforum260]

@thehouseboardshop Ok, that is what I thought would happen. Thanks for the info

[MrElcraneo]

would sand paper work or is a file better

[thehouseboardshop]

@MrElcraneo A file will work better.

[MossMagicCrunch]

It's been ages since I have been out, but I always baught everything from The House. I'm trying to get out again soon but don't want to use my time tuning and detuning my snowboard. Does The House offer the services you mentioned, rounding off edges? If so, how much is it? Thanks.

[thehouseboardshop]

@MossMagicCrunch A wax is about 10 buck and for a full tune is around 25. We could detune your edges but people normally do that themselves, by using a file or dragging the boards across some cement or riding it on dirt. But feel free to come in, we would be happy to let you use one of our files, if you just need a detune.

[MossMagicCrunch]

@thehouseboardshop Ight cool, I need to pick up some stuff while I'm in there. I need to pick up a gummie and diamond stone too.

[sk8er4god737]

hey is a diamond or gummy stone better for getting rid of burs?

[thehouseboardshop]

@sk8er4god737 Gummy stone

[xsporian]

is there a way to tell if you have the factory created beveled edge?

[thehouseboardshop]

@xsporian It should say on sticker on the base of the board. also the manufacturer website would be a good place to check. or you can use a metal ruler or straight edge, Put it across your base and see if you have a little gap where the ruler meets the edges.

[alakala1231]

i wanna do rails but do i have to detune my board if i have a reverse camber?

[thehouseboardshop]

@alakala1231 no you do not have to detune your edges, many of the boards sold today have an edge bevel that makes it less likely to catch you edge.

[LIVEtoFLY09]

would doing more of an aggressive detune make jumps harder?

[thehouseboardshop]

@LIVEtoFLY09 Yes, especially the take offs and the landings. alot of snowboards theses days have a park specific edge bevel. allowing you to keep you edges and still have the catch free fun of a detuned snowboard.

[qtip1195]

will it be significantly more difficult to ride all mountain if i detune the nose and tail and between the bindings?

[thehouseboardshop]

@qtip1195 yes if it is icy. no if it is not.

[rlclark50]

@qtip1195 Most modern decks have some sort of edge hold tech that even detuned, will grip on hardpack or ice. Mervin has Magnetraction(MTX), Never Summer has Variogrip, Arbor has a new unblended tri-radial side cut. I rode a detuned Never Summer Evo 151 all over the East Coast on the hardpack blacks and didn't have any problems..

[BIGMANBALLER32]

Can you use sandpaper instead of a gummy stone?

[thehouseboardshop]

@BIGMANBALLER32 I would use a stone of some sort. just your average honing stone for sharpening knifes will work. The sandpaper isn't going to hold up to the burrs and ridges you put in it with the file. It won't hurt your board if you try it though, probably just won't do a very good job.

[ColJ2]

So are there any risks to detuning your board? I assume you can tune it again later but what effect will this have on the board? I'm just learning to snowboard and live on the east coast near a very icy hill so I feel I need to sharpen my edges but what if I want to go on the park later once I improve? If it helps at all I'm mostly looking towards eventually going on the halfpipe.

[peterkrawiec]

Can you please make a video of how to tune/de-tune the edges with Magne traction? I'm riding the new 2011 Skate Banana

also, if I de tune it, can I chose to tune the edges at a later date?

[thehouseboardshop]

@peterkrawiec You would detune it the same why you would any other board. With Magne Traction you are pretty safe to detune your board and it should still hold a great edge just about everywhere. if you want to sharpen you edges you can pick up a Magne Traction snowboard tool for around $15- it just has a smaller file which allows you to tune around the contact points.

[thehouseboardshop]

@peterkrawiec and i will see what i can do about getting a video made for Magne Tuning.

[peterkrawiec]

@thehouseboardshop thanks a lot. you are the man!....you're the reason I actually bought the skate banana from your video review from last year....and I'm glad I watched it because I'm shredding VT and NH harder than ever and the Magne Traction really does cut into the icy hard pack like butter!- thats what I have to deal with all the time here and it makes it manageable and fun.....the skate banana has progressed my riding DRAMATICALLY!

thank you!

[melli7331]

So once you detune your snowboard, can you ever get the edges back to be good for the mountain?

[TDSUSERS]

@melli7331

you either do it yourself, or go to a local skate or snow shop (recomended)  DO NOT GO TO SPORTCHECK

[thehouseboardshop]

@melli7331 Yes, you can pick up a edge tuner or take it in to you local shop- they will sharpen that puppy so it is as good as new!

[CoyneC206]

Big help, just got a new board for the park and I'll be deriving this weekend thanks to you. Keep it up

[emericaskater54321]

how can you tell if your board needs to be detuned?

[Stj035]

i just wanted to say this on behalf of all the newer boarders out there and even more experinced boarders but thank you your videos are a huge help

[bananaboarder1]

Great vid

I ride all of park ( jumps,rails,boxes) how should i tune my board

[rasmasyean]

Do you detune a Skate Banana or other reverse camber board the same way?

[bananaboarder1]

I ride rails and jumps what should i do

[burtontoker]

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[haggy1996]

if you de tune the whole length of the board, would it affect the responsiveness of the board dramatically?

[jtmann88]

is it necessary to detune a snowboard with rocker, like a k2 parkstar? like what do the pros do?

[JibCucumber]

Hey do I need to detune my GNU Park Pickle, which has Magne Traction?

[TheMattt5534]

hey, i am starting to hit rails and stuff this season, if i got one of those sharpening tools beveled the edge to a 89 degree bevel would that be like detuning?

[snowandsteez]

Nice vid man I agree with rounding off the nose and tail but I think it would be better to put like a 3 degree bevel on the effective edge. That way you don't make your board totally useless outside of the park but still not catch on jibs

[BurtonTahoe]

what board is this

[thehouseboardshop]

@BurtonTahoe That one specifically is the 2008 Burton Un Inc 158. Yeah, it was a pretty fantastic graphic. All the sizes have a different adorable little baby animal. We still have all of them 152-160.

[BurtonTahoe]

@thehouseboardshop ya i just wanted to no its a sweet graphic

[RangerJakJak12]

Hey im riding a new burton board so i have the PDE's on it, how much will it effect my high speed turning if i detune my edges between the bindings cause im starting to progress my park riding now but still would like some high speed turning ability cheers

[thehouseboardshop]

@RangerJakJak12 Unless you're really having a problem with catching edges on rails I would say just leave them alone. If you hit hard pack with no edges going fast I would say you're more screwed there than you would be on a rail with sharp edges.

[thatPUNKdude]

Hey. I just got a Rome Machine 2010 and I'm just wondering if I need to detune the board in between the bindings. The edges already have a -3 degree angle so it is raised up from the snow (which will help with rails). So yeah, do I need to detune in between the bindings if I plan on riding 50/50 park and downhill freeride (keep in mind that the board has that -3 degree raised edges)?

[thehouseboardshop]

@thatPUNKdude Nope

[michaelskating]

what about edge bevels what do u reccomend for mostly park?

[thehouseboardshop]

@michaelskating Edge bevels work really good and are super handy because on most you can set the degree of your edge. For park if you're going to be riding rails and boxes all day just get rid of those edges. Round them off because are going to do you more harm than good.

[michaelskating]

@thehouseboardshop what degree of an edge bevel would not catch easily on rails but can still make solid carves

[thehouseboardshop]

@michaelskating mmm.. there isn't really one that works for both. It's either one or the other. You could try doing like 3 degrees on the base and 2 degrees on edge. But the best thing for having grip in snow with dull edges is Magne-Traction, or what ever brand's version of it. Having those extra contact points helps out SOOOO much with or without sharp edges.

[skinydude]

also would it be fine if you just use a gummy stone after filing or would it be better to use the diamond stone?

[thehouseboardshop]

@skinydude Hardware store.

[skinydude]

where can you get a gummy stone or diamond stone? 

[campfortune]

Best detune video on youtube

[thehouseboardshop]

@campfortune Thanks!

[MacmacofBBC]

For the diamond stone you were using in the video, were you using a fine stone, or a coarse stone?

[thehouseboardshop]

fine

[rasmasyean]

What is the "widest part of the board" supposed to indicate exactly?

Is it the contact point of a camber board at rest? Or is it the contact point when it's stepped on?

How about a rocker board? Is it the contact point when you step on it?

[thehouseboardshop]

Waist width refers to the middle of the board on any board. The widest part I am speaking of in the video is the nose and the tail (the widest parts).

[rasmasyean]

I think I get it. The widest part is where the sidecut is parallel to the long axis. So 1.5 inches is approx. where the sidecut carve arc starts to curve in the opposite direction, hence not neededor wanted.

[rasmasyean]

I read somewhere that if you want to ride mostly and carve, you start detuning at the contact points. Then about 1 inch in for normal riding. Then more as you do more park riding. Is this true? After like 1.5 inches like in the suggestion, does it make a difference when detuning more? ...besides the middle for rails that is.

[rasmasyean]

Like if you want to land spins without catching an edge, should you detune like 2 inches or more?

[thehouseboardshop]

No more than 2.

[thehouseboardshop]

The more you detune the less edge grip you have. So doing it a lil' at a time is clutch.

[michaelskating]

where can u get gummy stone?

[PLxFTW]

Hey, I am looking to buy some gear for next season and I have never bought a board, bindings or boots before. What do I need to know to buy this gear?

[thehouseboardshop]

Call me at 1-800-992-7245 to discuss your options. Ask for Dave.

[skatezooyork24]

if i just bought a new board and my edges are flat and sharp it that how i need them for a setup. like jumps and rails.

[thehouseboardshop]

Generally for rail usage you would want to at least detune a little between the bindings.

[frrredh]

How is the proper way to detune a magne traction board for park riding?

[thehouseboardshop]

Just a lil' of the edge for the whole edge...baby steps here are crucial as you can take it off but it wont come back.

[MrGaywhale]

wat shud i do if i do lik 50% jumps 50% rails??

[thehouseboardshop]

Just a lil' detune between the bindings.

[MistaCleanMagic]

Im a park rider but on powder day i hit the back country. What kind of detune should i do? I do everything big hits and jibs and pipe

[thehouseboardshop]

Since you are going in the pipe just detune a little bit between the bindings.

[WheresThePopcornProd]

my finish on the top of my board is peeling about 3-5mm wide near the edges. it appears its just a type of seal over the main part of the board, should i be worried about water damage? and what about rust on the metal edges, should anything be done about that?

[thehouseboardshop]

Take steel wool to the edges to remove the rust. As far as the crack goes stick some 2 part epoxy in it clamp it up overnight and sand it down the next day.

[WheresThePopcornProd]

thanks man

[forumrider67]

hey do you know if forum youngbloods come detuned

[thehouseboardshop]

they do but if you are doing alot of rails I would definitely detune it more.

[thehouseboardshop]

Just detune the nose and tail.

[Izack585]

I just got a brand new Lamar mission freestyle board, my question is do I need to detune it's edges at all? I won't be doing much park riding so should the edges come factory ready and it's best I don't do anything to my edges?

[jayseo]

yes. lamar boards are very mass produced snowboards. even though your not going to do a lot of park riding, detuning edges is crucial for a good freeriding board also.

[Hdude7]

what board is this???

[tmarasigan07]

looks like a 2007-2008 burton uninc, but i could be wrong

[StevensPassRider91]

ur right its the uninc

[steamer705]

the 4 spots where the board is widest is uselsess? I disagree. Sure the nose and tail are pointless to have sharp, and make you catch on a box or whatever. But the corner edges? those are the most effective turning parts.

[smit2kit]

due to teh slight camber of the board, the four corners of the board where its widest will catch the snow the most. in detuning the edge, you going to catch edge less and have more freedom while still haveing the sharpened edges in between to rely on for carving and such when your board flexes flat and digs in..at least thats what i get from it

[snowvalleyrider]

Oh I'm sorry nevermind

[snowvalleyrider]

What is the point of detuning your edges ? I thought u were supposed to sharpen them with a fileguide.

[actionsports111]

I have a burton custom I use for everything that I just detune the tip and tail and a capita scaremaster for park that I just got. The scaremaster is almost 100% for park, maybe 90% so should I round everything except right over the bindings?

[thehouseboardshop]

I would detune the nose and tail aggressively but for the rest of the edge I would mildly round off the whole edge. Baby steps are good here a little at a time and you should figure it out after just a couple times riding.

[TheSlaughterhouse]

Hey I was wondering I bought a technine icon (08-09 model not this years) anyways its a freestyle board i want to get into riding park but i also ride the hill alot should I file down the nose and tail edges? and mildly dull the rest of the edge? if i do that will i be able to ride the hill and carve still ?