kebaya is very beautiful, sugoi ne, watashi wa nihonjin desu. Watashi wa batik no yukata o kaimashita. Indoneshia wa sugoi desu ne. My mother is javanese, so she teaches me to make kebaya and batik painting.
@Sawrattan the sumatran often using other type of kebaya named "Kebaya Kurung" its mix between kurung style and kebaya style..and it also wear by women in malaysia..that's why the kebaya is also national costume in malaysia..but in sulwesi, it's true that kebaya is not really popular but they often wear the kebaya in cultural event like Kartini's day..sulawesi tend to have malay culture..they more confident if wear muslim dress
@FaridElhan tak ada catatan pasti bahwa kebaya berasal dari melaka..sekalipun dari melaka,bisa anda jelaskan mengapa kebaya populer berasal dari tanah jawa ? apa hubungan melaka dan jawa karna melaka sendiri dibangun oleh seorang pangeran parameswara dari kerajaan sriwijaya di palembang ? kemben yang dipakai oleh orang2 jawa justru lebih padan dengan busana kebaya daripada baju kurung anda..kebaya sangat kental unsur hindu..dan jika anda bilang kebaya ada unsur portugis malah tambah ngaco..
@FaridElhan Terlepas dari asal usulnya yang Arab, atau Portugis, atau Cina, kita mahfum bahwa penyebarannya memang dari arah utara kepulauan Indonesia. Artinya, negara-negara yang terlewati oleh ekspansi ala Arab, Portugis, dan Cina bisa jadi memiliki versi kebayanya masing-masing. Dan akhirnya, Jawa menjadi destinasi penyebaran paling selatan, karena tidak ditemukan jejaknya lagi di kepulauan Pasifik barat.jadi kalau anda ngaku2 kebaya asal malaysia maka jelas terdengar bodoh..
@FaridElhan karena melaka bukanlah negeri pertama yang didatangi portugis..dari sebelah timur indonesia,portugis masuk juga ke kepulauan maluku..maka anda akan temukan bahwa busana tradisional kaum wanita maluku justru busana kebaya meskipun budaya asli mereka tidak 100% melayu karena mereka juga digolongkan sebagai budaya melanesia..soal orang china dan arab ? jangan salah ! aceh dan barus di sumatra utara lebih dulu mendapat pengaruh arab daripada melaka.. !
@FaridElhan dan soal china..kedatangan bangsa china pertama kali ke nusantara juga ke sumatra untuk belajar agama buddha di kerajaan sriwijaya yang dulu berpusat di palembang..sementara melaka belumlah lahir sehingga parameswara putra mahkota kerajaan sriwijaya yang melarikan diri ke suatu daerah yang akhirnya ia bangun dan bernama melaka..ini mengapa saya katakan tak ada catatan yang mengatakan bahwa kebaya berasal dari melaka..sungguh pernyaaan bodoh untuk mengecilkan budaya nusantara..
Kami xkisah lah jika indonesia brjaya dgn kebaya n songket, penah dgr org msia marah org indon pasal kebaya, takraw n songket? Kalo mau tau Org msia sendiri kagum dgn kebaya dr indon, sampekan ada yg memuji muji org indon kreatif bikin kebaya, sepatutnya kamu patut jgn pcaya media kamu yg penuh fitnah, dengki thadap malaysia, gemar bikin provokasi.. Malaysia bbagi budaya hampir 5 negara (brunei, siam, filipin, singapur n negaramu) tp cuma negaramu aja yg byk bikin hal..
Teori pertama berasumsi bahwa dengan asal muasal kebaya berasal dari Arab, berarti datang bersamaan dengan menyebarnya agama Islam di tanah Melayu dan ikut mempengaruhi cara berpakaian. Sementara teori kedua berasumsi bahwa baju kebaya awalnya berasal dari bentuk asli baju Portugis yang setelah datang ke tanah Melayu mengalami akulturasi dengan baju tradisional setempat sehingga menjadi bentuk baju kebaya.
FAKTA EMANG MYAKITKAN KAN??.. gak sangka busana nasional indon asli malaysia hehehe
@FaridElhan fakta menyakitkan kalau ternyata kebaya lebih dikenal berasal dari indonesia oleh masyarakat luar negara daripada dari malaysia..kayaknya ada yang salah dengan budaya anda.. :)
@FaridElhan tanah melayu yg anda sebut itu apa? malon = tanah melayu, indo = tanah melayu, spore = tanah melayu, pilipin = tanah melayu. jangan asal berkoar2 kalo penjelasanmu itu kurang meyakinkan bung, FAKTA MEMANG MENYAKITKAN, TP KEBODOHAN ITU LEBIH MENYAKITKAN.
@reznov82 makanya bro..si farid ini sendiri bodohnya bukan main..memang pulau isinya bukan tanah..malaysia,cuma negeri yang sedang mencari identitas negeri mereka setelah bertahun2 dicokol oleh budaya melayu semenanjung padahal masyarakatnya justru banyak pendatang dari kepulauan melayu..silahkan kalian akui..jika mau akui budaya itu paling tidak anda perjuangkan di dunia internasional..daripada sibuk ribut di youtube bahwa indonesia menuduh kalian melakukan klaim..
@reznov82 setelah diperjuangkan sebagai warisan budaya dunia oleh indonesia,eh..sekarang ikut2an ngaku2..jadi kemana aja kalian selama ini ? kalau memang konsern ingin memperkenalkan,kenapa gak dari dulu ? memang istilah melayu sebagai bangsa itu tidaklah cocok,karena melayu adalah hanya bagian dari sekian banyak suku di indonesia..
Ada dua teori sejarah yang mengatakan bahwa baju kebaya berasal dari dua kebudayaan yaitu Arab dan Portugis, Teori pertama menyatakan bahwa perkataan “ Kebaya “ berasal dari bahasa Arab yaitu “ Habaya “ yang artinya pakaian longgar yang belah di depan (kaftan). Teori kedua mengatakan bahwa pakaian kebaya di bawa oleh bangsa Portugis ke daerah semenanjung Malaka.
'Kerajinan Tenun songket di Riau yang terkenal yaitu Tenun songket Siak. Di Siak Tenun Songket pertama kali diperkenalkan oleh Pengrajin yang didatangkan dari kerajaan Trengganu Malaysia yaitu pada masa Kerajaan Siak diperintah oleh Sultan Sayid Ali. Seorang wanita bernama Wan Siti Binti Wan Karim dibawa ke Siak Sri Indrapura,beliau adalah seorang yang cakap dan terampil dalam bertenun dan beliau mengajarkan bagaimana bertenun kain Songket"
di malaysia kalau kamu tahu tdpt pelbagai bju tradisi baju kebaya, baju kurung kedah, kurung pahang, baju kebaya kota bharu, kebaya chitty, kebaya nyonya, kebaya turki, tp zaman skrg kbykkan org malaysia gak peduli semua itu LG, yg penting kerja3x, aku rasa jika Ssukan Sepak Takraw asli melaka di jadikan acara sukan olimpik pun, org malaysia pasti gak peduli.. penah liat kami marah or bdemo di kedubes thailand kerna merka jdkan takraw warisan negara merka??
Mau tanya di pulau Jawa ada satu jenis Kebaya di panggil Kebaya Kutu Baru kebaya nya di bhgian Depan dada nya ada Kancing tp apa maksud 'Kutu Baru'? Agak aneh kdgran ya
@FaridElhan malay is originally come from sumatera,parameswara from srivijaya,many experts n teacher sent to malaysia in 1970s to teach all of malaysian,keris from java n also nusantara n batik.malaysia prime minister from bugis.
hey i have a question? are indonesian people muslims or buddhist? and where did yall get this traditional dress kebaya from? is the dress influence from muslims?
@TranThanhHai1 > 80% Indonesians are Muslim. Kebaya is originated from Hindu culture of Majapahit Kingdom in Java, which was brought to Sriwijaya in Sumatra. This is the beginning of expanding of Kebaya to several regions outside Indonesia such as Malaysia, Singapore, Burma, Brunei and even southern part of Thailand. The word Kebaya itself comes from Arabic word "abaya", which means clothing.
@cintaestehmanis Kata "kebaya" memang berasal dr bahasa Arab, tapi coba lihat bagaimana bentuk baju kebaya? apakah mungkin baju Arab sama seperti Kebaya? saya kira tidak karena baju Kebaya cenderung press body...dan press body merupakan ciri khas baju di kepulauan Nusantara...
@priyouny iya betul, dan saya jg tidak bilang kalo kebaya itu kultur arab, tp kultur hindu majapahit. cuma penggunaan katanya saja yang dari bahasa arab, coba dibaca lagi komentar saya sebelumnya. Thanks!
Why we always have to fight over the origin? Malaysian, Indonesian....?! That is sooo childish! We should be proud that sth so beautiful as the kebaya exists, doesn't matter if originally INdonesian or Malaysian. We should see the human first, later we can discuss about nationality or religion. Malaysia and INdonesia have so many things in common, yet also many differences. I would say it is tipical of both countries. No need to fight! Peace and respect to all...
Stop being so ridiculous, people. Both of you come off as two squabbling brothers to me. To call each other names and bring about history in your arguments is not only silly, but it is also shallow. Right now, what is more important is to protect what culture we do share, and be proud of our individuality and the common traits that belong to the both of us. This is coming from an Indonesian living in Malaysia for the past 12 years.
do not call us malaysian as thief. we did help your country when there's earthquakes or something like that. and we do have our own identity. we have baju kurung, our official traditional costumes. by the way, if you guys are still doubting about the origin of kebaya, do some research on the internet. that's all you need to do. no one can change what's there on the web. everyone around the world knows it. that's it. no arguement. i think i have the need to protect my country, malaysia. :)
@aimonaz1 and we did help your country with send many teachers when your country needed after your independence (so remember that !) and for your knowledge,if you say kebaya is malay costume,you are right ! but don't forget that all malay people is origin came from Riau mainland and islands.not came from "semenanjung" or your peninsula.jadi Indonesia jauh lebih berhak atas kebaya,bahkan kalo kami mau juga "baju kurung",so know ur history first ! ok ?
same as you,i also have to protect my country,Indonesia ! and i think all malaysian people are childish like you ! all countries in the world had given us help or aid when we have disasters.and we also have rights to refused or received their help or aid.if we want, we can refused your help.but this is not happened,because we still remember the kindness a few of your people who gave the aid without asking for praise or in other words they are very sincere.
@lagodaxnian betul yg km katakan lagodxnian... dah beribu tahun dulu pusat sejarah asia tengggra adalah indonesia. baik sejarah umum atau sejarah berdirinya kerajaan kuno di mulai dari jawa dan aceh..... go indonesia! realize malaysian kids!
then don't think only your country providing humanitarian aid to Indonesia.aid from western countries and other major countries have actually greater than your country had given to us.and if there is another country was hit by an earthquake so we also gave them help or aid that is not less great as the western countries gave.exp : we sent a volunteer team to search earthquake victims in Haiti plus one million dollars aid to Haiti, and the value of this aid is the largest in southeast asia.
@aimonaz1 such a pathetic people. you help another but you want the prices and clap hands. ck, pathetic....
"the earliest form of Kebaya originates in the court of the Javanese Majapahit Kingdom as a means to blend the existing female Kemban, torso wrap of the aristocratic women to be more modest and acceptable to the newly adopted Islam religion."
@aimonaz1 Slowly it (kebaya) naturally spread to neighbouring areas through trade, diplomacy and social interactions to Malacca, Bali, Sumatra, Borneo, Sulawesi and the Sultanate of Sulu and Mindanao. Javanese kebaya as known today were noted by Raffles in 1817.
@bnarendrah yes! ure right! sebagian anak msia yg tak tau sejarah hrs di ajar! org2 tua malaysia satu dua aja yg komplain! yg bermasalah itu anak malaysial!
@aimonaz1 Indonesia cuma pandai mjerit jerit 'semua asal indonesia' tanpa mkaji sejarah, cuba tanya dekat pakar busana Indonesia, pkaji sejarah Indonesia, ramai mgatakan Melaka adalh tempat asalnya busana ini, kalau nk tau abad ke 15 n 16, Indon masih berkemban
teori kukuh kebaya asal melaka n semenanjung ialah,
- Melaka adalah negeri pertama di nusantara yg di jajah portugis
- Kebaya Kutu Baru myerupai Kebaya Kota Bharu di Kelantan
- kebaya yg di pake oleh org di pulau jawa pd awalnya adalah kebaya melayu bkn kebaya Jawa, Bali n sunda
- pkataan kebaya lebih bbaur Melayu kerna mggunakan Ejaan 'Ke' bkn basa jawa n sunda yg bmula dgn ejaan 'Ka'
- Kebaya bkn lah sesuatu yg tradisi dlm budaya jawa contoh pakaian wajib dlm keraton sultan jawa ialah Berkemban sedang kan busana kebaya adalah 1 pakaian wajib di istana2 sultan melayu di semenanjung
@FaridElhan terbukti kebaya indonesia lebih dikenal dunia..baik ia anda sangka dari melaka atau bukan..ok ? kebaya indonesia lebih variatif karna indonesia tak hanya punya kebaya melayu tapi juga kebaya sunda,jawa atau kebaya maluku..kami mengembangkan kebaya,negeri anda lebih mengembangkan baju kurung..itu fakta..jadi tak usahlah nak protes..
@lagodaxnian eh bukan di indon yg asli adalah baju BODO bugis ke? tp kenapa marah bila kami kembangkan rendang melayu ke internasional? kenapa marahkan kami kembangkan batik terngganu ke internasional? tp penah x kamu liat kami marah kan pd indonesia sbb kembangkan kebaya ke internasional? penah ngak?
@FaridElhan silahkan kalian perkenalkan batik trengganu kek..mau batik johor,melaka atau apalah..karena kami gak pernah mengklaim itu sebagai budaya bukan melayu/nusantara..kami klaim kamilah bangsa yang mem perjuangkannya menjadi warisan budaya dunia..yang bikin kami sakit hati adalah malaysia mengakui itu bagian dari budaya kalian setelah sekian lama kalian diam tanpa bertindak akan warisan budaya itu..setelah dikenal dunia baru ikut ngaku ? kemana aja lo selama ini ?
@FaridElhan bersyukurlah kepada para pendatang dari kepulauan melayu yang sekarang memenuhi negeri anda sebagai warga negara anda,apakah mereka minang,jawa,bugis,sunda,dan lainnya..jika tidak kalian tak akan mengenal lebih banyak budaya2 melayu yang kini kalian akui juga sebagai bagian dari budaya kalian..
@hpham1000 Most of the pictures showed modern kebaya, more fancy and of course expensive. If you're looking for the traditional kind of kebaya, I suggest you to google the picture of Raden Adjeng (RA) Kartini or simply Kartini. If you find picture of a women wearing kebaya in a 1900s kind of photograph that's her.
Indonesia also good in stealing another culture, dangdut music example.. dangdut came from hindustan n bolywood.. And then they want to claim this music originated from indonesia.. If you want to know the word of "indonesia" means "indian archipelago"! Even maldives n sri lanka dont want consider themself as indian archipelago! What a shame!
stealing ? did you know the history of dangdut ? if you don't know,just shut up !! Dangdut is Traditional Music Intrument which is mix between malay traditional music and Indian Traditional Music.and this kind of music firstly popular in Riau about a few centuries ago.and Riau is ethnic Malay in Indonesia.
so what's wrong with that ? is any indian claimed this traditional music as they own ? the answer is NO !!! because for Indian,dangdut not 100% sounds like their music..don't believe ? just ask Indian ! do not ask malay ! cause many malay even don't know about their own cultures !! lol
@DubakDubik how stupid u r.... dangdut is originally from indonesia,could u ask indian to play dangdut as well as indonesian?could u?. n indonesia is derived from the latin indus n greek nesos. u need to study more Kid..... dont make a tupid comment here.
Kebaya melayu kuat pengaruh muslim, kebaya d jawa sunda n bali dpgaruhi adat2 hindu lama.. Nama aja serupa tp stail xsrupa.. Kami xklaim kebaya sunda, bali or jawa.. Kebaya kami mmg blainan dr kamu
ya sudah..dimana-mana juga yang terkenal itu kebaya datangnya dari Indonesia.coba aja lu ke Jepang,ke Eropa,ke Amerika ! lu tanya kebaya itu baju tradisional mana ? pasti jawabannya adalah "INDONESIA"..kalian orang malaysia emang lucu,setelah populer oleh orang Indonesia,eh..malah sekarang ngaku2 punya kalian.shame on you...makanya jadi Muslim itu fikiran jangan cetek ! semua yang berbau hindu lu benci !! padahal nenek moyang lu sebelum masuk islam juga agamanya hindu !! malaysian is pathetic !
setelah popular oleh org indoensia??? maksud nya malaysia sengaja mengaku kebaya milik malaysia gitu?? aduhhh ,kebaya sudah berkurun lama nya ada di malaysia sini ... ko ni bodoh nak mampos .. !siapa yg lucu ??
@MegaStreetguy jauh lebih lama di indonesia tolol !! orang2 lu juga kebanyakkan imigran asal Indonesia..so,tua mana,orang2 negeri asal mereka ? atau orang2 pendatang di negeri lo ? pake otak lain kali kalo ngomong..
@MegaStreetguy setau saya memang begitu. pemerintah malaysia selalu bilang "kami hanya membantu untuk memperkenalkan budaya indonesia di mata dunia". kalau memang berniat memperkenalkan saja, seharusnya kalian memberikan informasi asal dan sejarah berkembangnya budaya itu. jangan asal main tampil tapi gag ngomong apa2. itu sama aja kaya mencuri!menggunakan milik orang lain tanpa sepengetahuan orang yang memiliki!
Kalau nyonya cina pakai kebaya indon benarkan, kristen indon pakai kebaya indon benarkan, tp kalau melayu pakai kebaya mmg indon xbg, actualy kebaya adalah pakaian muslim d zaman islamic d asean, kalau d perhatikan lukisan miniature mughal n lukisan orientalis timur tgh, ada sejenis pakaian dpakai oleh wanita2 islam india n arab sama mirip kebaya yg dpakai oleh wanita melayu pd zaman kesultanan d tanah melayu..so kristen n cina xmalu ke pakai busana islam?
yang pasti kebaya banyak mendapatkan pengaruh hindu daripada Islam.karena kebaya adalah pakaian yang sangat menggambarkan lekuk tubuh seorang wanita.sama seperti pakaian orang2 hindu.sementara kalau pakaian Islam seminimal mungkin mereka mempertontonkan lekuk tubuh wanita.karena setahu saya di dalam Islam dilarang memperlihatkan aurat.
wat the fuck!!!!indonesian dressing is fucking suck....at least malaysian people are not so stupid n phatetic enough to come to our country malaysia and begging for a job....shame on you indonesian!!!!think before talk,at least our country are far ahead modern than your country!!!....
the only thing i know about malaysian people is they are really lazy,lazy to make a good culture,lazy to be creative and the best thing,they are lazy to take care of their own households,that's why your country need a lot of maid..Indonesian people 100% creative than malaysian because they were an autonomous nation.every mother in Indonsian raised their childreen without expecting a maid..no one to be proud of being a malaysian..No.1 laziest nation in the world..!! lol
far ahead ? all we know,malaysia now is the worse recession country in Asia.and Indonesia is the fastest growing economy country in Asia along with China and India.you're country even not including as G-20 country..ahahahaha :D malaysia economy is fake..fake..fake.. !!!
KEBAYA is west java, indonesia traditional costume. and i'm proud of it because bandung, west java is my hometown. and Indonesia is my country. we sundanese are very very proud of it! I Love YOU my Country INDONESIA!!
malaysian are thief! they stole the kingdom of sabah which is originaly owned by the philippines! they stole cultures from its neighboring countries representing their national dress which is obviously a national costume of indonesia! and also bahasa indonesia which is an indonesian language was claimed as their own language too and renamed it bahasa melayu! how pathetic!
hay naku mga malaysians talaga walang patutunguhan di mo malaman ang tunay nilang entitidad! haisss nakakaawa naman!
I AGREE WITH YOU! good thing to know that indonesia and philippines and the rest of malay archaepelago has identity unlike malaysian which stole cultures and lands from its neigboring country!!!! even their languages was taken from indonesia!!!!! how pathetic malaysians!!!
temans jangan lupa pakai batik tgl 2 oct, unesco sdh menyatakan bhw batik mmg punya indonesia. semoga disusul oleh kekayaan budaya kita yg lain. Hidup Indonesia! Merdeka!
Kebaya is come from End Dont and malaysia because end dont is beside malaysia not in america if you saying that we are steal the batik design you are in but you are Dont thats why we call you In Dont.Never excet people opinion and always fight that something that you cant proove its true from the history...Event my ancesstor and roots from sumatera....I think the Indon javanese is over reacting..choyyy
mas ray, jangan panggil kita indon dong :D Indonesia terdengar lebih indah, kalo kepanjangan singkat indo aja ya mas. btw thanks 4uploading video cantik ini, luv luv luv it ditambah lagunya om crisye, maknyus deh!
ya..maaf..saya sebut indon hanya kalo sedang berbincang-bincang dengan orang malaysia.anyway,sebenarnya saya gak begitu peduli orang indonesia mau dipanggil indon atau indo.soalnya memang kebiasaan orang malaysia yang emang suka menyingkat-nyingkat panggilan.mereka emang pelit bahasa.orang indonesia dia panggil indon,orang bangladesh dia panggil bangla,orang pakistan dia panggil Paki.
saya rasa sih mereka gak bermaksud memanggil seperti itu untuk merendahkan bangsa lain.dasar pelit bahasa aja..
kadang2 rakyat kita juga ketularan jadi pelit bahasa..di Indonesia kadang2 orang menyebut orang australia sebagai Aussie,dan amerika sebagai Amrik,ada juga orang chinese yang disebut "Chokin".so,kita juga mesti introspeksi diri juga.kita jangan marah dipanggil dengan nama singkat begitu,jika sebagian rakyat kita juga punya kebiasaan menyingkat-nyingkat panggilan.. :)
setuju mas, tapi bedanya kami menyebut oz atau amrik gak ada maksud menghina tapi dengar langsung dari M peps maksud n dbelakang indo itu adalah kelas bawah (malah kadang disebut end dont). was 7 years back & forward, jujur spt negara2 lain yg pernah saya tinggali, mereka juga banyak yang baik, tapi saya sll menilik pd benang merah, issuenya apa. Kl Indonesian salah ya saya katakan salah, kalau M peps salah ya saya stick to POV based on facts. Kenapa? karena ,,
karena, saya tidak lagi menganggap diri saya exclusively WNI tapi WND = world citizen, saya cinta negara manapun, tapi kalo orang/negaranya commit social crime/malah law ya saya katakan apa adanya. Lah wong nomaden mas, nomads = cari makan mubeng2 LOL, salam kenal btw aku add ya mas. INDONESIA MERDEKA!
iya..saya juga tinggal di singapore..ortu bahkan sudah jadi warga negara sana.saya gak pernah dengar orang Singapore panggil orang indonesia dengan sebutan indon.kalo manggil orang indonesia ya mereka sebut Indonesia dengan lengkap.orang singapore emang lebih maju dari segi pemikiran dan tingkah laku daripada orang malaysia.
dan di Singapore pun kebanyakkan orang singapore sendiri tak begitu suka dengan orang malaysia.secara ekonomi singapore itu juga lebih baik dari malaysia.
lucky you mas ray, sg sbelah mana? kami dl di east coast, meyer&bayshore. luv luv singapore, bersih, aman, teratur (walau msh ada oknum "look down", but hey any part of the world pasti ada minus & plusnya, right?). Sdh 1bln kami pindah ke madrid, spain. alamak mrtnya bikin mumet & kaki mau copot LOL. SG mrt is the best & so far kita koleksi green card dulu mas, WN-nya after 50's tp yg jelas bukan SG, living cost-nya mahal rek LOL
end dont itu panggilan orang indonesia oleh orang malaysia yang gak berpendidikan.orang malaysia itu kebanyakkan ngaku2 kalo budi bahasa melayu itu luhur dan mengedepankan sopan santun..justru jauh dari sopan santun.saya malah lihat jauh kebih santun orang2 indonesia yang mereka anggap babu daripada tuannya sendiri..
oh,jadi itu maksudnya wisenomads di channel anda bro..iya,orang indonesia nyebut amrik untuk orang amerika cuma sekedar bahasa gaul dikalangan anak muda,bukan menghina,setuju banget
malaysian batik is rubbish..did you heard me? RUBBISH..they just print a flower flower and fucking flower...thats y malaysian so jealouse with indonesian batik
even Indonesian batik and kebaya also not sumatranese culture..sumatrnese in Indonesia very2 proud about Kurung,teluk belanga,and songket.they never claimed javanese culture like batik and kebaya as sumatrnese culture.i know more than you,cause i'm born in sumatra (Pekanbaru),lives there until i'm finish my high school in Pekanbaru.and my mother also sumatranese.
what malaysia have,indonesia have too..more original.what indonesia have,malaysia dont have..even they have too..that is copy from indonesia.budaya dan warisan malaysia..adalah serpihan dari budaya indonesia..but not at all
what make us different from your countries.....is..in every batik designs especially from java..they have deep philosophy of high javanese culture. every design has meaning.....and yours doesnt !!!! sorry to say that Malingsia !!!!!
Btw, I would never ever called myself as Malay as I'm not. I'm Javanese and was born in Jakarta, Indonesia then I'm Indonesian. Whatever you called us in your country is your right but as I was travelling all over the world, I never call myself Malay even when applying for visa or PR in each country. I called my self proudly as Indonesian period! If ever they asked my descent then I said Javanese. There I said it loudly :D
Whoever you are you may wear 'kebaya', it's an honor for us. Whats not right is claiming something isn't yours as exclusively yours. It shouldnt happened in 1st place especially when its changing another country historical background for good. Happened many times already as you may see in the legal articles, hg org
Prior to 1600, kain kebaya on Java island were considered a sacred clothing to be worn only by aristocrats (bangsawan) & minor nobility members of the Javanese monarchy, in an era when peasant men and many women walked publicly bare-chested. THEN ITALIAN will say loudly CAPISCI? ha ha ha
Kebaya is derived directly from the Javanese language gumbayak/gembayak (kebaya) & regional accent derivative kebayak, bayak being Javanese for a women's (non-intimate) article of clothing, the prefix ke- altering the adjective to the noun. The term Kebaya as a particular clothing type was noted by the Portuguese when they landed in Indonesia, in the former Spice island & Celebes (modern Maluku&Sulawesi)
LOL, come on every1. don't be so naive, we all are coming from one roots. aren't you the1 who claimed that batik is yours? as matter of fact your govt. went for patent? what about people in west africa, most asia, & carribean? they have batik as well, now what? you offended that kebaya is ours? which is true, why would you?
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if u feel the kebaya is really urs,then y not sued Malaysia Airlines n Singapore Airlines,see u in court...one more thing,Javanese people know as Malay too in their birth certificate in Malaysia,luv wearing kebaya n baju kurung daaaa..
No Need Courts..cause all people in around the world knows kebaya is Indonesian traditional dress..kurung is the truly yours..look at your people in UK,always using kurung to show their identity as malay..i never see they using kebaya...singapore and malaysia are just Indonesian wannabe in traditional dress style..but to bad,many javanese never accept thet they are a part of malay..malays famous cause their laziness,while Javanese is hard worker people..that's why they more creative than malay..
There's 'kebaya' in Malaysia and Singapore but then again, to whom the basic kebaya design is credited to? Indonesian immigrants in both countries and their offsprings!
They bring their culture, food and fashion from their home country, modify it a bit but in the end, its originally from Indonesia rite?
No offense. But if you do take what's originally Indonesian (kebaya, BEEF RENDANG, soto, etc) at least have the decency to give us some credit.
@poccarotta :it's just tiny mini mo example...Even Japanese doesn't complain we wear their kimono cause we do not mention that inventor is ours..(irrelevant issues from )..
u must know something honey,not all Malay in Malaysian is pure malay,they r actually combinatn of bugis, Mandailings,minangnese, JAVANESE,achehnese, etc,but in Msia all is known as Malay,our PM Najib is Bugis ancestor,our astronout Sy Muszaphar is minangnese,our popular singer Mawi is JAVANESE,P.Ramlee is Achehnese,my ancestor is Bugis,u knew nothing about Malay people in Msia then u talking rubbish..Malaysian Javanese wearing kebaya too eventhough they r Msian..
dari modelnya aja kebaya pakainan bagian dada terbuka,memakai bahan yg transfaran dan mengikuti lekuk tubuh pemakainya,masih mau bilang ini pakaian tradisional m'sia ,bukanya negara anda memakai hukun syariah islam,wah banyak wanita yg di penjara dong gara2 pake pakayan tradisional
and even in malaysia, they got chinese people who came on the malacca sultanate and they end up marrying the locals...so they adapt local tradition and from there, they have this kebaya nonya...so r u still claim that kebaya is from indonesia and kurung is from malaysia and malaysia cannot claim that kebaya is part of their traditional clothing?????
malay kebaya is differents from indonesian, the malay type is kurung kebaya like the MAS stewardess wear. malay usually using songket and batik to make the kebaya and our style look more moderate as oppose to indonesian style which look sexy. the one that copy the indonesian kebaya is nyonya kebaya. they look more similar.
@NanzMediaNetwor: It's still good talk to hand but not to ass.(no mean to be rude)
With hand: we can track the source of history..which one more earlier from kutai..tarumanegara..majapahit to malay kingdom?
Yes we are "serumpun.".Please we can live in harmony ..respect others intangible or tangible rights. Don't mention your kindness if you not willing to help (itu namanya ga ikhlas)
Soon Kebaya will be noticed as Indonesia's heritage as did to Batik
Wow desainer Indonesia emang kreatif!!...Kebaya jaman kartini masih classic tapi kebaya sekarang dah modern dan berbagai model...Hope kebaya Indo dah di hak paten so ga ada yang ngaku2 lagi! :-)
oh iya perlu diberdayain lagi nih. ya kayak penggunaan batik di hari2 tertentu buat pegawai negeri yang udah jalan, kalo bisa harinya di tmbah ato mungkin mulai senin ampe jumat pake batik ma kebaya trus juga gpp. tapi yg lbh modern and lbh simple. biar ngga kena paten lg kyk yg kmaren2 :(
ya...setuju sekali,di vietnam mereka sangat bangga menggunakan ao dai,dari pegawai negeri sampe seragam anak sekolahan semuanya pake ao dai..bisa di search di youtube..ini bisa dicontoh di Indonesia.. :)
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kebaya is very beautiful, sugoi ne, watashi wa nihonjin desu. Watashi wa batik no yukata o kaimashita. Indoneshia wa sugoi desu ne. My mother is javanese, so she teaches me to make kebaya and batik painting.
I believe that Indonesia is the owner of kebaya !
Stop comment insulting.
danial16ful 6 days ago
but malaysian ppl said this cloths is their country woman custome.they very clever how to copy n paste other traditional cloths.songs.n food.
and lagu rasa sayange.gilang sepatu gilang they copied too.
Rivi252 1 week ago
This seems more ceremonial/expensive than everyday kebaya... not what women used to wear daily in the street.
Also, is it Indonesian or especially Javanese? I only saw Javanese women wear it, not Sumatran or Sulawesi, etc.
Sawrattan 1 month ago
@Sawrattan the sumatran often using other type of kebaya named "Kebaya Kurung" its mix between kurung style and kebaya style..and it also wear by women in malaysia..that's why the kebaya is also national costume in malaysia..but in sulwesi, it's true that kebaya is not really popular but they often wear the kebaya in cultural event like Kartini's day..sulawesi tend to have malay culture..they more confident if wear muslim dress
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
@reznov82 Singapura, Brunei, Indonesia, filipin dikategorikan sbgai pulau melayu bkn tanah melayu
Kebaya adalh busana yg mpunyai pgaruh dari pakaian portugis, cina n arab
Mau tnya negeri manakh yg dtawan portugis di Sea?
N negeri melayu manakah yg pnh mjd pusat pdagangan dunia bg seluruh pulau melayu yg mgumpulkn pdagang dr arab, china n eropah?
FaridElhan 1 month ago
@FaridElhan tak ada catatan pasti bahwa kebaya berasal dari melaka..sekalipun dari melaka,bisa anda jelaskan mengapa kebaya populer berasal dari tanah jawa ? apa hubungan melaka dan jawa karna melaka sendiri dibangun oleh seorang pangeran parameswara dari kerajaan sriwijaya di palembang ? kemben yang dipakai oleh orang2 jawa justru lebih padan dengan busana kebaya daripada baju kurung anda..kebaya sangat kental unsur hindu..dan jika anda bilang kebaya ada unsur portugis malah tambah ngaco..
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
@FaridElhan Terlepas dari asal usulnya yang Arab, atau Portugis, atau Cina, kita mahfum bahwa penyebarannya memang dari arah utara kepulauan Indonesia. Artinya, negara-negara yang terlewati oleh ekspansi ala Arab, Portugis, dan Cina bisa jadi memiliki versi kebayanya masing-masing. Dan akhirnya, Jawa menjadi destinasi penyebaran paling selatan, karena tidak ditemukan jejaknya lagi di kepulauan Pasifik barat.jadi kalau anda ngaku2 kebaya asal malaysia maka jelas terdengar bodoh..
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
@FaridElhan karena melaka bukanlah negeri pertama yang didatangi portugis..dari sebelah timur indonesia,portugis masuk juga ke kepulauan maluku..maka anda akan temukan bahwa busana tradisional kaum wanita maluku justru busana kebaya meskipun budaya asli mereka tidak 100% melayu karena mereka juga digolongkan sebagai budaya melanesia..soal orang china dan arab ? jangan salah ! aceh dan barus di sumatra utara lebih dulu mendapat pengaruh arab daripada melaka.. !
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
@FaridElhan dan soal china..kedatangan bangsa china pertama kali ke nusantara juga ke sumatra untuk belajar agama buddha di kerajaan sriwijaya yang dulu berpusat di palembang..sementara melaka belumlah lahir sehingga parameswara putra mahkota kerajaan sriwijaya yang melarikan diri ke suatu daerah yang akhirnya ia bangun dan bernama melaka..ini mengapa saya katakan tak ada catatan yang mengatakan bahwa kebaya berasal dari melaka..sungguh pernyaaan bodoh untuk mengecilkan budaya nusantara..
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
Kami xkisah lah jika indonesia brjaya dgn kebaya n songket, penah dgr org msia marah org indon pasal kebaya, takraw n songket? Kalo mau tau Org msia sendiri kagum dgn kebaya dr indon, sampekan ada yg memuji muji org indon kreatif bikin kebaya, sepatutnya kamu patut jgn pcaya media kamu yg penuh fitnah, dengki thadap malaysia, gemar bikin provokasi.. Malaysia bbagi budaya hampir 5 negara (brunei, siam, filipin, singapur n negaramu) tp cuma negaramu aja yg byk bikin hal..
FaridElhan 2 months ago
Teori pertama berasumsi bahwa dengan asal muasal kebaya berasal dari Arab, berarti datang bersamaan dengan menyebarnya agama Islam di tanah Melayu dan ikut mempengaruhi cara berpakaian. Sementara teori kedua berasumsi bahwa baju kebaya awalnya berasal dari bentuk asli baju Portugis yang setelah datang ke tanah Melayu mengalami akulturasi dengan baju tradisional setempat sehingga menjadi bentuk baju kebaya.
FAKTA EMANG MYAKITKAN KAN??.. gak sangka busana nasional indon asli malaysia hehehe
FaridElhan 2 months ago
@FaridElhan fakta menyakitkan kalau ternyata kebaya lebih dikenal berasal dari indonesia oleh masyarakat luar negara daripada dari malaysia..kayaknya ada yang salah dengan budaya anda.. :)
lagodaxnian 2 months ago
@FaridElhan tanah melayu yg anda sebut itu apa? malon = tanah melayu, indo = tanah melayu, spore = tanah melayu, pilipin = tanah melayu. jangan asal berkoar2 kalo penjelasanmu itu kurang meyakinkan bung, FAKTA MEMANG MENYAKITKAN, TP KEBODOHAN ITU LEBIH MENYAKITKAN.
reznov82 1 month ago
@reznov82 makanya bro..si farid ini sendiri bodohnya bukan main..memang pulau isinya bukan tanah..malaysia,cuma negeri yang sedang mencari identitas negeri mereka setelah bertahun2 dicokol oleh budaya melayu semenanjung padahal masyarakatnya justru banyak pendatang dari kepulauan melayu..silahkan kalian akui..jika mau akui budaya itu paling tidak anda perjuangkan di dunia internasional..daripada sibuk ribut di youtube bahwa indonesia menuduh kalian melakukan klaim..
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
@reznov82 setelah diperjuangkan sebagai warisan budaya dunia oleh indonesia,eh..sekarang ikut2an ngaku2..jadi kemana aja kalian selama ini ? kalau memang konsern ingin memperkenalkan,kenapa gak dari dulu ? memang istilah melayu sebagai bangsa itu tidaklah cocok,karena melayu adalah hanya bagian dari sekian banyak suku di indonesia..
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
dari rujukan pakar sejarah n pakar busana indon
Ada dua teori sejarah yang mengatakan bahwa baju kebaya berasal dari dua kebudayaan yaitu Arab dan Portugis, Teori pertama menyatakan bahwa perkataan “ Kebaya “ berasal dari bahasa Arab yaitu “ Habaya “ yang artinya pakaian longgar yang belah di depan (kaftan). Teori kedua mengatakan bahwa pakaian kebaya di bawa oleh bangsa Portugis ke daerah semenanjung Malaka.
sambung...
FaridElhan 2 months ago
dari web melayu riau
'Kerajinan Tenun songket di Riau yang terkenal yaitu Tenun songket Siak. Di Siak Tenun Songket pertama kali diperkenalkan oleh Pengrajin yang didatangkan dari kerajaan Trengganu Malaysia yaitu pada masa Kerajaan Siak diperintah oleh Sultan Sayid Ali. Seorang wanita bernama Wan Siti Binti Wan Karim dibawa ke Siak Sri Indrapura,beliau adalah seorang yang cakap dan terampil dalam bertenun dan beliau mengajarkan bagaimana bertenun kain Songket"
ps: fakta emang myakitkan ya
FaridElhan 2 months ago
di malaysia kalau kamu tahu tdpt pelbagai bju tradisi baju kebaya, baju kurung kedah, kurung pahang, baju kebaya kota bharu, kebaya chitty, kebaya nyonya, kebaya turki, tp zaman skrg kbykkan org malaysia gak peduli semua itu LG, yg penting kerja3x, aku rasa jika Ssukan Sepak Takraw asli melaka di jadikan acara sukan olimpik pun, org malaysia pasti gak peduli.. penah liat kami marah or bdemo di kedubes thailand kerna merka jdkan takraw warisan negara merka??
FaridElhan 2 months ago
Mau tanya di pulau Jawa ada satu jenis Kebaya di panggil Kebaya Kutu Baru kebaya nya di bhgian Depan dada nya ada Kancing tp apa maksud 'Kutu Baru'? Agak aneh kdgran ya
FaridElhan 2 months ago
hi guys, dress are so elegant. can someone tell me which website or link on where i can buy this elegant dress online. thank you.
ladycharm79 6 months ago
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bennlonelyboy 5 months ago
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bennlonelyboy 5 months ago
@ladycharm79 u can search in google using this: buying indonesian kebaya
and there is 2 link from alibaba and u can choose it..
bennlonelyboy 5 months ago
haha beautiful..
cantik-cantik..
asli Indonesia
<3 Indonesia
trylikamei 6 months ago
I HATE CONFLICT
thewtfman212 6 months ago
why indonesian kids are now always think and talk like they had superior complex and knew about everything as like they had been live there..?
kambova2000 7 months ago
@kambova2000
karena kami sedang bertetangga dengan masyarakat yang sedikit tahu namun hyperior complex.
sibatunisan 7 months ago
Indonesia = Indian Archipelago
Rupiah = Rupee
Dangdut = Indian Music
Tabla = Indian Instrument
Bali = Hindu Place
Majapahit = Hindu Empire
Srivijaya = Hindu Empire
Without India what happen to Indonesia
FaridElhan 9 months ago
@FaridElhan and.....malay means muslims...all malaysian culture is arabic culture...no matter what...
priyouny 9 months ago
@FaridElhan malay is originally come from sumatera,parameswara from srivijaya,many experts n teacher sent to malaysia in 1970s to teach all of malaysian,keris from java n also nusantara n batik.malaysia prime minister from bugis.
without indonesia what happen to malaysia???
danangsam 8 months ago
@danangsam
dulu ada pepatah yang bunyinya begini :
karena Palembang, Melaka ada
karena Indonesia, Malaysia ada.
jauh sebelum itu ada lagi pepatah begini :
bila Melaka jatuh, papan di Jawa kudirikan.
:)
sibatunisan 7 months ago
hey i have a question? are indonesian people muslims or buddhist? and where did yall get this traditional dress kebaya from? is the dress influence from muslims?
TranThanhHai1 10 months ago
@TranThanhHai1 > 80% Indonesians are Muslim. Kebaya is originated from Hindu culture of Majapahit Kingdom in Java, which was brought to Sriwijaya in Sumatra. This is the beginning of expanding of Kebaya to several regions outside Indonesia such as Malaysia, Singapore, Burma, Brunei and even southern part of Thailand. The word Kebaya itself comes from Arabic word "abaya", which means clothing.
cintaestehmanis 10 months ago
@cintaestehmanis Kata "kebaya" memang berasal dr bahasa Arab, tapi coba lihat bagaimana bentuk baju kebaya? apakah mungkin baju Arab sama seperti Kebaya? saya kira tidak karena baju Kebaya cenderung press body...dan press body merupakan ciri khas baju di kepulauan Nusantara...
priyouny 9 months ago
@priyouny iya betul, dan saya jg tidak bilang kalo kebaya itu kultur arab, tp kultur hindu majapahit. cuma penggunaan katanya saja yang dari bahasa arab, coba dibaca lagi komentar saya sebelumnya. Thanks!
cintaestehmanis 9 months ago
Wow Kebaya's are so beautiful! I wonder if there is a place where I can order pretty Kebayas.
0Sindel12 10 months ago
indonesian women the best for sex.
siddarthkoul100 1 year ago
Why we always have to fight over the origin? Malaysian, Indonesian....?! That is sooo childish! We should be proud that sth so beautiful as the kebaya exists, doesn't matter if originally INdonesian or Malaysian. We should see the human first, later we can discuss about nationality or religion. Malaysia and INdonesia have so many things in common, yet also many differences. I would say it is tipical of both countries. No need to fight! Peace and respect to all...
cowook77 1 year ago
absolutely beautiful. i want the second kebaya :(
Stop being so ridiculous, people. Both of you come off as two squabbling brothers to me. To call each other names and bring about history in your arguments is not only silly, but it is also shallow. Right now, what is more important is to protect what culture we do share, and be proud of our individuality and the common traits that belong to the both of us. This is coming from an Indonesian living in Malaysia for the past 12 years.
xxquillify 1 year ago
Deuh Lu, lagu nasionalnya juga ngambil dr lagu daerah Indonesia ge ck
nadia12071996 1 year ago
Orang Malaysia bodoh Dan tolol. Mereka hanya bisa meniru budaya Indonesia.
tigerpurba 1 year ago
iyalah tu indonesian bodoh....makanlah kebaya kamu tu ,,bawa lah ke kubur ,,pakailah kebaya tu bikin kain kapan masa kamu mati nanti..;)
shahru98 1 year ago
which part of the malaysia the peninsular or the borneo region kekekekeekek
chaosbozack 1 year ago
do not call us malaysian as thief. we did help your country when there's earthquakes or something like that. and we do have our own identity. we have baju kurung, our official traditional costumes. by the way, if you guys are still doubting about the origin of kebaya, do some research on the internet. that's all you need to do. no one can change what's there on the web. everyone around the world knows it. that's it. no arguement. i think i have the need to protect my country, malaysia. :)
aimonaz1 1 year ago
@aimonaz1 and we did help your country with send many teachers when your country needed after your independence (so remember that !) and for your knowledge,if you say kebaya is malay costume,you are right ! but don't forget that all malay people is origin came from Riau mainland and islands.not came from "semenanjung" or your peninsula.jadi Indonesia jauh lebih berhak atas kebaya,bahkan kalo kami mau juga "baju kurung",so know ur history first ! ok ?
lagodaxnian 1 year ago
same as you,i also have to protect my country,Indonesia ! and i think all malaysian people are childish like you ! all countries in the world had given us help or aid when we have disasters.and we also have rights to refused or received their help or aid.if we want, we can refused your help.but this is not happened,because we still remember the kindness a few of your people who gave the aid without asking for praise or in other words they are very sincere.
lagodaxnian 1 year ago
@lagodaxnian betul yg km katakan lagodxnian... dah beribu tahun dulu pusat sejarah asia tengggra adalah indonesia. baik sejarah umum atau sejarah berdirinya kerajaan kuno di mulai dari jawa dan aceh..... go indonesia! realize malaysian kids!
TheChandramukhi 1 year ago
@lagodaxnian bg fakta sejarah ya jgn hanya bisa teriak "semua asal indonesia' tanpa meberi fakta
FaridElhan 2 months ago
@FaridElhan orang malaysia lupa kalau mereka sering berteriak "serumpun"..ckckckc..
lagodaxnian 2 months ago
then don't think only your country providing humanitarian aid to Indonesia.aid from western countries and other major countries have actually greater than your country had given to us.and if there is another country was hit by an earthquake so we also gave them help or aid that is not less great as the western countries gave.exp : we sent a volunteer team to search earthquake victims in Haiti plus one million dollars aid to Haiti, and the value of this aid is the largest in southeast asia.
lagodaxnian 1 year ago 11
@lagodaxnian Satu Nusantara, apelah gaduh2 hal remeh ni. Nilah akibat berpisah waktu inggeris dan belanda.
lemuriavi 11 months ago
@lagodaxnian humanitarian aid ke, hantar cikgu ke, hanya allah saja yg mengadilinya, janganlah kita ni gunakan kebaikan untuk menunjuk-nunjuk
lemuriavi 11 months ago
@aimonaz1 such a pathetic people. you help another but you want the prices and clap hands. ck, pathetic....
"the earliest form of Kebaya originates in the court of the Javanese Majapahit Kingdom as a means to blend the existing female Kemban, torso wrap of the aristocratic women to be more modest and acceptable to the newly adopted Islam religion."
that's on the web!
bnarendrah 1 year ago
@bnarendrah yeak! betul!
TheChandramukhi 1 year ago
@aimonaz1 Slowly it (kebaya) naturally spread to neighbouring areas through trade, diplomacy and social interactions to Malacca, Bali, Sumatra, Borneo, Sulawesi and the Sultanate of Sulu and Mindanao. Javanese kebaya as known today were noted by Raffles in 1817.
history never lie!
bnarendrah 1 year ago
@bnarendrah yes! ure right! sebagian anak msia yg tak tau sejarah hrs di ajar! org2 tua malaysia satu dua aja yg komplain! yg bermasalah itu anak malaysial!
TheChandramukhi 1 year ago
@aimonaz1 Indonesia cuma pandai mjerit jerit 'semua asal indonesia' tanpa mkaji sejarah, cuba tanya dekat pakar busana Indonesia, pkaji sejarah Indonesia, ramai mgatakan Melaka adalh tempat asalnya busana ini, kalau nk tau abad ke 15 n 16, Indon masih berkemban
teori kukuh kebaya asal melaka n semenanjung ialah,
- Melaka adalah negeri pertama di nusantara yg di jajah portugis
- Kebaya Kutu Baru myerupai Kebaya Kota Bharu di Kelantan
FaridElhan 2 months ago
@aimonaz1 Teori
- kebaya yg di pake oleh org di pulau jawa pd awalnya adalah kebaya melayu bkn kebaya Jawa, Bali n sunda
- pkataan kebaya lebih bbaur Melayu kerna mggunakan Ejaan 'Ke' bkn basa jawa n sunda yg bmula dgn ejaan 'Ka'
- Kebaya bkn lah sesuatu yg tradisi dlm budaya jawa contoh pakaian wajib dlm keraton sultan jawa ialah Berkemban sedang kan busana kebaya adalah 1 pakaian wajib di istana2 sultan melayu di semenanjung
FaridElhan 2 months ago
@aimonaz1 to aimonaz dont believe what indon say kalau boleh semua yg hebat di dunia merka akan kata smua nya asal indonesia
FaridElhan 2 months ago
@FaridElhan terbukti kebaya indonesia lebih dikenal dunia..baik ia anda sangka dari melaka atau bukan..ok ? kebaya indonesia lebih variatif karna indonesia tak hanya punya kebaya melayu tapi juga kebaya sunda,jawa atau kebaya maluku..kami mengembangkan kebaya,negeri anda lebih mengembangkan baju kurung..itu fakta..jadi tak usahlah nak protes..
lagodaxnian 2 months ago
@lagodaxnian eh bukan di indon yg asli adalah baju BODO bugis ke? tp kenapa marah bila kami kembangkan rendang melayu ke internasional? kenapa marahkan kami kembangkan batik terngganu ke internasional? tp penah x kamu liat kami marah kan pd indonesia sbb kembangkan kebaya ke internasional? penah ngak?
FaridElhan 2 months ago
@FaridElhan silahkan kalian perkenalkan batik trengganu kek..mau batik johor,melaka atau apalah..karena kami gak pernah mengklaim itu sebagai budaya bukan melayu/nusantara..kami klaim kamilah bangsa yang mem perjuangkannya menjadi warisan budaya dunia..yang bikin kami sakit hati adalah malaysia mengakui itu bagian dari budaya kalian setelah sekian lama kalian diam tanpa bertindak akan warisan budaya itu..setelah dikenal dunia baru ikut ngaku ? kemana aja lo selama ini ?
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
@FaridElhan bersyukurlah kepada para pendatang dari kepulauan melayu yang sekarang memenuhi negeri anda sebagai warga negara anda,apakah mereka minang,jawa,bugis,sunda,dan lainnya..jika tidak kalian tak akan mengenal lebih banyak budaya2 melayu yang kini kalian akui juga sebagai bagian dari budaya kalian..
lagodaxnian 1 month ago
why is the traditional dress look similar to the Victorian era?
hpham1000 1 year ago
@hpham1000 Most of the pictures showed modern kebaya, more fancy and of course expensive. If you're looking for the traditional kind of kebaya, I suggest you to google the picture of Raden Adjeng (RA) Kartini or simply Kartini. If you find picture of a women wearing kebaya in a 1900s kind of photograph that's her.
anoable 1 year ago 5
Indonesia also good in stealing another culture, dangdut music example.. dangdut came from hindustan n bolywood.. And then they want to claim this music originated from indonesia.. If you want to know the word of "indonesia" means "indian archipelago"! Even maldives n sri lanka dont want consider themself as indian archipelago! What a shame!
DubakDubik 2 years ago
stealing ? did you know the history of dangdut ? if you don't know,just shut up !! Dangdut is Traditional Music Intrument which is mix between malay traditional music and Indian Traditional Music.and this kind of music firstly popular in Riau about a few centuries ago.and Riau is ethnic Malay in Indonesia.
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
@lagodaxnian God bless u dear!
TheChandramukhi 1 year ago
so what's wrong with that ? is any indian claimed this traditional music as they own ? the answer is NO !!! because for Indian,dangdut not 100% sounds like their music..don't believe ? just ask Indian ! do not ask malay ! cause many malay even don't know about their own cultures !! lol
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
@DubakDubik stupid u! fuck u!........dubak dubik itl itl! itil kerbau!
TheChandramukhi 1 year ago
@DubakDubik how stupid u r.... dangdut is originally from indonesia,could u ask indian to play dangdut as well as indonesian?could u?. n indonesia is derived from the latin indus n greek nesos. u need to study more Kid..... dont make a tupid comment here.
danangsam 8 months ago
Kebaya melayu kuat pengaruh muslim, kebaya d jawa sunda n bali dpgaruhi adat2 hindu lama.. Nama aja serupa tp stail xsrupa.. Kami xklaim kebaya sunda, bali or jawa.. Kebaya kami mmg blainan dr kamu
DubakDubik 2 years ago
ya sudah..dimana-mana juga yang terkenal itu kebaya datangnya dari Indonesia.coba aja lu ke Jepang,ke Eropa,ke Amerika ! lu tanya kebaya itu baju tradisional mana ? pasti jawabannya adalah "INDONESIA"..kalian orang malaysia emang lucu,setelah populer oleh orang Indonesia,eh..malah sekarang ngaku2 punya kalian.shame on you...makanya jadi Muslim itu fikiran jangan cetek ! semua yang berbau hindu lu benci !! padahal nenek moyang lu sebelum masuk islam juga agamanya hindu !! malaysian is pathetic !
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
setelah popular oleh org indoensia??? maksud nya malaysia sengaja mengaku kebaya milik malaysia gitu?? aduhhh ,kebaya sudah berkurun lama nya ada di malaysia sini ... ko ni bodoh nak mampos .. !siapa yg lucu ??
MegaStreetguy 1 year ago
@MegaStreetguy jauh lebih lama di indonesia tolol !! orang2 lu juga kebanyakkan imigran asal Indonesia..so,tua mana,orang2 negeri asal mereka ? atau orang2 pendatang di negeri lo ? pake otak lain kali kalo ngomong..
lagodaxnian 1 year ago
@MegaStreetguy setau saya memang begitu. pemerintah malaysia selalu bilang "kami hanya membantu untuk memperkenalkan budaya indonesia di mata dunia". kalau memang berniat memperkenalkan saja, seharusnya kalian memberikan informasi asal dan sejarah berkembangnya budaya itu. jangan asal main tampil tapi gag ngomong apa2. itu sama aja kaya mencuri!menggunakan milik orang lain tanpa sepengetahuan orang yang memiliki!
bnarendrah 1 year ago 2
@bnarendrah go!
TheChandramukhi 1 year ago
@lagodaxnian yah betu! sriwijaya dulu beragama hindu dan sempat tunduk dengan majapahit!
TheChandramukhi 1 year ago
@DubakDubik lol bagaimanapon jua kebaya melayu adalah pengaruh dari kebaya jawa
danangsam 8 months ago
kebaya2 d tanah melayu
watch?v=f3LMITe7UK4 lihat penari melayu memakai kebaya labuh (kebaya yg x terdapat d indonesia)
watch?v=ohV9djZ4VUI di masa 0:54 kebaya pahang (popular d pakai era kesultanan melaka, johor, pahang, kedah)
watch?v=uW1ybRA44d0 Kebaya saloma (direka oleh biduan saloma, penyanyi lagenda malaysia)
DubakDubik 2 years ago
kebaya saloma ? namanya adalah Saloma..yang pakai dia..ya jelas namanya jadi kebaya Saloma..stupid !!!
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
Lihat vid2 ini, mbuktikan kebaya mmg brasal dr muslim
watch?v=pkFAMNZ0ijU liat di babak 3:04 ini dpgl abaya mugal mmg popular dpakai zaman islam india
watch?v=7vlcYpvRaH8 0:33 liat seorg wanita gemuk (d sebelah kiri) memakai kebaya labuh bwarna hitam d zaman empayar islam ottoman turki
DubakDubik 2 years ago
may be your kurung..not kebaya.kebaya is came from hindu tradition.and this kind of traditional dress also similar with burma dress..
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
@lagodaxnian betul!
TheChandramukhi 1 year ago
Kalau nyonya cina pakai kebaya indon benarkan, kristen indon pakai kebaya indon benarkan, tp kalau melayu pakai kebaya mmg indon xbg, actualy kebaya adalah pakaian muslim d zaman islamic d asean, kalau d perhatikan lukisan miniature mughal n lukisan orientalis timur tgh, ada sejenis pakaian dpakai oleh wanita2 islam india n arab sama mirip kebaya yg dpakai oleh wanita melayu pd zaman kesultanan d tanah melayu..so kristen n cina xmalu ke pakai busana islam?
DubakDubik 2 years ago
yang pasti kebaya banyak mendapatkan pengaruh hindu daripada Islam.karena kebaya adalah pakaian yang sangat menggambarkan lekuk tubuh seorang wanita.sama seperti pakaian orang2 hindu.sementara kalau pakaian Islam seminimal mungkin mereka mempertontonkan lekuk tubuh wanita.karena setahu saya di dalam Islam dilarang memperlihatkan aurat.
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
wat the fuck!!!!indonesian dressing is fucking suck....at least malaysian people are not so stupid n phatetic enough to come to our country malaysia and begging for a job....shame on you indonesian!!!!think before talk,at least our country are far ahead modern than your country!!!....
salvation182 2 years ago
the only thing i know about malaysian people is they are really lazy,lazy to make a good culture,lazy to be creative and the best thing,they are lazy to take care of their own households,that's why your country need a lot of maid..Indonesian people 100% creative than malaysian because they were an autonomous nation.every mother in Indonsian raised their childreen without expecting a maid..no one to be proud of being a malaysian..No.1 laziest nation in the world..!! lol
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
far ahead ? all we know,malaysia now is the worse recession country in Asia.and Indonesia is the fastest growing economy country in Asia along with China and India.you're country even not including as G-20 country..ahahahaha :D malaysia economy is fake..fake..fake.. !!!
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
KEBAYA is west java, indonesia traditional costume. and i'm proud of it because bandung, west java is my hometown. and Indonesia is my country. we sundanese are very very proud of it! I Love YOU my Country INDONESIA!!
kaylanazwa 2 years ago
malaysian are thief! they stole the kingdom of sabah which is originaly owned by the philippines! they stole cultures from its neighboring countries representing their national dress which is obviously a national costume of indonesia! and also bahasa indonesia which is an indonesian language was claimed as their own language too and renamed it bahasa melayu! how pathetic!
hay naku mga malaysians talaga walang patutunguhan di mo malaman ang tunay nilang entitidad! haisss nakakaawa naman!
sunade143 2 years ago
@sunade143 yess malaysian are thief..the israel of south esat asia is malaysia.
astriLONTHEhongkong2 2 years ago
kebaya is originally from west java...
but now, it is a national costum from indonesia...
what the heck malaysia said kebaya was from there...
cih...
shame on you malay!!!
you just a pathetic country without identity...
bnarendrah 2 years ago
I AGREE WITH YOU! good thing to know that indonesia and philippines and the rest of malay archaepelago has identity unlike malaysian which stole cultures and lands from its neigboring country!!!! even their languages was taken from indonesia!!!!! how pathetic malaysians!!!
sunade143 2 years ago
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apa apa la....malaysia tetap no 1 in kebaya..
pinkybear128 2 years ago
mimpi di siang bolong..lu telanjang dulu baru ngaku2 kebaya punya negara lu..ok ? hahahaha :D gak malu..
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
malaysia itu justru seharusnya lebih deket sama kebudayaan sumatra, khususnya riau...
tapi ini koq malah nyampe ke jawa...
sebelum ke jawa aja, masih harus ngelewatin provinsi2 yg ada di sumatra atau di kalimantan...
kejauhan lo kalo bilang kebaya, angklung, batik, wayang, keris asalnya dari malaysia...
kalimantan sama sumatra aja minim akulturasi kebudayaan dng yg gw sebutin tadi...
kalo songket sih gw masih percaya berkembang di malaysia juga...
bnarendrah 2 years ago
lagian tiap provinsi di indonesia punya kebudayaannya masing2...
keliatan tau gag kalo lo emang ngincer kebudayaan2 dari indonesia, jawa khususnya...
bnarendrah 2 years ago
temans jangan lupa pakai batik tgl 2 oct, unesco sdh menyatakan bhw batik mmg punya indonesia. semoga disusul oleh kekayaan budaya kita yg lain. Hidup Indonesia! Merdeka!
WiseNomads 2 years ago 3
Kebaya is come from End Dont and malaysia because end dont is beside malaysia not in america if you saying that we are steal the batik design you are in but you are Dont thats why we call you In Dont.Never excet people opinion and always fight that something that you cant proove its true from the history...Event my ancesstor and roots from sumatera....I think the Indon javanese is over reacting..choyyy
jendeladelimabiru 2 years ago
so,if you don't want to see indon javenese over reacting,stop saying that batik is came from yours,ok ?
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
mas ray, jangan panggil kita indon dong :D Indonesia terdengar lebih indah, kalo kepanjangan singkat indo aja ya mas. btw thanks 4uploading video cantik ini, luv luv luv it ditambah lagunya om crisye, maknyus deh!
WiseNomads 2 years ago
ya..maaf..saya sebut indon hanya kalo sedang berbincang-bincang dengan orang malaysia.anyway,sebenarnya saya gak begitu peduli orang indonesia mau dipanggil indon atau indo.soalnya memang kebiasaan orang malaysia yang emang suka menyingkat-nyingkat panggilan.mereka emang pelit bahasa.orang indonesia dia panggil indon,orang bangladesh dia panggil bangla,orang pakistan dia panggil Paki.
saya rasa sih mereka gak bermaksud memanggil seperti itu untuk merendahkan bangsa lain.dasar pelit bahasa aja..
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
kadang2 rakyat kita juga ketularan jadi pelit bahasa..di Indonesia kadang2 orang menyebut orang australia sebagai Aussie,dan amerika sebagai Amrik,ada juga orang chinese yang disebut "Chokin".so,kita juga mesti introspeksi diri juga.kita jangan marah dipanggil dengan nama singkat begitu,jika sebagian rakyat kita juga punya kebiasaan menyingkat-nyingkat panggilan.. :)
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
setuju mas, tapi bedanya kami menyebut oz atau amrik gak ada maksud menghina tapi dengar langsung dari M peps maksud n dbelakang indo itu adalah kelas bawah (malah kadang disebut end dont). was 7 years back & forward, jujur spt negara2 lain yg pernah saya tinggali, mereka juga banyak yang baik, tapi saya sll menilik pd benang merah, issuenya apa. Kl Indonesian salah ya saya katakan salah, kalau M peps salah ya saya stick to POV based on facts. Kenapa? karena ,,
WiseNomads 2 years ago
karena, saya tidak lagi menganggap diri saya exclusively WNI tapi WND = world citizen, saya cinta negara manapun, tapi kalo orang/negaranya commit social crime/malah law ya saya katakan apa adanya. Lah wong nomaden mas, nomads = cari makan mubeng2 LOL, salam kenal btw aku add ya mas. INDONESIA MERDEKA!
WiseNomads 2 years ago
iya..saya juga tinggal di singapore..ortu bahkan sudah jadi warga negara sana.saya gak pernah dengar orang Singapore panggil orang indonesia dengan sebutan indon.kalo manggil orang indonesia ya mereka sebut Indonesia dengan lengkap.orang singapore emang lebih maju dari segi pemikiran dan tingkah laku daripada orang malaysia.
dan di Singapore pun kebanyakkan orang singapore sendiri tak begitu suka dengan orang malaysia.secara ekonomi singapore itu juga lebih baik dari malaysia.
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
lucky you mas ray, sg sbelah mana? kami dl di east coast, meyer&bayshore. luv luv singapore, bersih, aman, teratur (walau msh ada oknum "look down", but hey any part of the world pasti ada minus & plusnya, right?). Sdh 1bln kami pindah ke madrid, spain. alamak mrtnya bikin mumet & kaki mau copot LOL. SG mrt is the best & so far kita koleksi green card dulu mas, WN-nya after 50's tp yg jelas bukan SG, living cost-nya mahal rek LOL
WiseNomads 2 years ago
saya di central region,tepatnya di geylang..ya..betul,bersih aman dan teratur,gak sulit ngatur penduduknya yang sedikit sih..
bener itu ! MRT singapore memang yang paling top di asia tenggara..MRT manila atau Bangkok masih kalah dari segi kebersihan dan kenyamanan..
oh..sekarang di Spain ya..saya belum pernah ke spain.. :)
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
end dont itu panggilan orang indonesia oleh orang malaysia yang gak berpendidikan.orang malaysia itu kebanyakkan ngaku2 kalo budi bahasa melayu itu luhur dan mengedepankan sopan santun..justru jauh dari sopan santun.saya malah lihat jauh kebih santun orang2 indonesia yang mereka anggap babu daripada tuannya sendiri..
oh,jadi itu maksudnya wisenomads di channel anda bro..iya,orang indonesia nyebut amrik untuk orang amerika cuma sekedar bahasa gaul dikalangan anak muda,bukan menghina,setuju banget
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
malaysian batik is rubbish..did you heard me? RUBBISH..they just print a flower flower and fucking flower...thats y malaysian so jealouse with indonesian batik
kereklanasu 2 years ago
even Indonesian batik and kebaya also not sumatranese culture..sumatrnese in Indonesia very2 proud about Kurung,teluk belanga,and songket.they never claimed javanese culture like batik and kebaya as sumatrnese culture.i know more than you,cause i'm born in sumatra (Pekanbaru),lives there until i'm finish my high school in Pekanbaru.and my mother also sumatranese.
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
so who over reacting,you as malaysian or Indonesian Javanese as the owner of this culture ? Lol answer yourself !
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
Smoking HOT!
I love indonesia, the best women ever!
VERGIS92 2 years ago
what malaysia have,indonesia have too..more original.what indonesia have,malaysia dont have..even they have too..that is copy from indonesia.budaya dan warisan malaysia..adalah serpihan dari budaya indonesia..but not at all
kereklanasu 2 years ago
what make us different from your countries.....is..in every batik designs especially from java..they have deep philosophy of high javanese culture. every design has meaning.....and yours doesnt !!!! sorry to say that Malingsia !!!!!
MrGlennus 2 years ago
Btw, I would never ever called myself as Malay as I'm not. I'm Javanese and was born in Jakarta, Indonesia then I'm Indonesian. Whatever you called us in your country is your right but as I was travelling all over the world, I never call myself Malay even when applying for visa or PR in each country. I called my self proudly as Indonesian period! If ever they asked my descent then I said Javanese. There I said it loudly :D
WiseNomads 2 years ago
Whoever you are you may wear 'kebaya', it's an honor for us. Whats not right is claiming something isn't yours as exclusively yours. It shouldnt happened in 1st place especially when its changing another country historical background for good. Happened many times already as you may see in the legal articles, hg org
WiseNomads 2 years ago
Prior to 1600, kain kebaya on Java island were considered a sacred clothing to be worn only by aristocrats (bangsawan) & minor nobility members of the Javanese monarchy, in an era when peasant men and many women walked publicly bare-chested. THEN ITALIAN will say loudly CAPISCI? ha ha ha
WiseNomads 2 years ago
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WiseNomads 2 years ago
Kebaya is derived directly from the Javanese language gumbayak/gembayak (kebaya) & regional accent derivative kebayak, bayak being Javanese for a women's (non-intimate) article of clothing, the prefix ke- altering the adjective to the noun. The term Kebaya as a particular clothing type was noted by the Portuguese when they landed in Indonesia, in the former Spice island & Celebes (modern Maluku&Sulawesi)
WiseNomads 2 years ago
LOL, come on every1. don't be so naive, we all are coming from one roots. aren't you the1 who claimed that batik is yours? as matter of fact your govt. went for patent? what about people in west africa, most asia, & carribean? they have batik as well, now what? you offended that kebaya is ours? which is true, why would you?
WiseNomads 2 years ago
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if u feel the kebaya is really urs,then y not sued Malaysia Airlines n Singapore Airlines,see u in court...one more thing,Javanese people know as Malay too in their birth certificate in Malaysia,luv wearing kebaya n baju kurung daaaa..
poccarotta 2 years ago
No Need Courts..cause all people in around the world knows kebaya is Indonesian traditional dress..kurung is the truly yours..look at your people in UK,always using kurung to show their identity as malay..i never see they using kebaya...singapore and malaysia are just Indonesian wannabe in traditional dress style..but to bad,many javanese never accept thet they are a part of malay..malays famous cause their laziness,while Javanese is hard worker people..that's why they more creative than malay..
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
It's more of a moral matter rather than legal.
There's 'kebaya' in Malaysia and Singapore but then again, to whom the basic kebaya design is credited to? Indonesian immigrants in both countries and their offsprings!
They bring their culture, food and fashion from their home country, modify it a bit but in the end, its originally from Indonesia rite?
No offense. But if you do take what's originally Indonesian (kebaya, BEEF RENDANG, soto, etc) at least have the decency to give us some credit.
huhuluihuhu 2 years ago
@poccarotta :it's just tiny mini mo example...Even Japanese doesn't complain we wear their kimono cause we do not mention that inventor is ours..(irrelevant issues from )..
rashadi99 1 year ago
u must know something honey,not all Malay in Malaysian is pure malay,they r actually combinatn of bugis, Mandailings,minangnese, JAVANESE,achehnese, etc,but in Msia all is known as Malay,our PM Najib is Bugis ancestor,our astronout Sy Muszaphar is minangnese,our popular singer Mawi is JAVANESE,P.Ramlee is Achehnese,my ancestor is Bugis,u knew nothing about Malay people in Msia then u talking rubbish..Malaysian Javanese wearing kebaya too eventhough they r Msian..
poccarotta 2 years ago
the girl at 3:10 almost knocked me out of my chair.... very pretty!
420bongweed 2 years ago
MALINGSIA HAVE NO STYLE...F*ck off.. !
kanazef 2 years ago
dari modelnya aja kebaya pakainan bagian dada terbuka,memakai bahan yg transfaran dan mengikuti lekuk tubuh pemakainya,masih mau bilang ini pakaian tradisional m'sia ,bukanya negara anda memakai hukun syariah islam,wah banyak wanita yg di penjara dong gara2 pake pakayan tradisional
sriemuhani 2 years ago
ya tuh..seksi2 banget kebaya indo..hahaha
iyang88 2 years ago
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WiseNomads 2 years ago
and even in malaysia, they got chinese people who came on the malacca sultanate and they end up marrying the locals...so they adapt local tradition and from there, they have this kebaya nonya...so r u still claim that kebaya is from indonesia and kurung is from malaysia and malaysia cannot claim that kebaya is part of their traditional clothing?????
aimthemopheles 2 years ago 2
malay kebaya is differents from indonesian, the malay type is kurung kebaya like the MAS stewardess wear. malay usually using songket and batik to make the kebaya and our style look more moderate as oppose to indonesian style which look sexy. the one that copy the indonesian kebaya is nyonya kebaya. they look more similar.
A107743 2 years ago
and FYI,malaysian airlines stewardess always wear baju kebaya. :) dun get offended pls.
NanzMediaNetwork 2 years ago
well, it's okie .i like kebaya but not very much :(
hatemeorhatehim 2 years ago
what the hell is maling?
use english please XD
NanzMediaNetwork 2 years ago
hahaha,always claimed indonesia culture.well,talk to d hand.i dun mess with fuctard people.
NanzMediaNetwork 2 years ago
@NanzMediaNetwor: It's still good talk to hand but not to ass.(no mean to be rude)
With hand: we can track the source of history..which one more earlier from kutai..tarumanegara..majapahit to malay kingdom?
Yes we are "serumpun.".Please we can live in harmony ..respect others intangible or tangible rights. Don't mention your kindness if you not willing to help (itu namanya ga ikhlas)
Soon Kebaya will be noticed as Indonesia's heritage as did to Batik
Peace
rashadi99 1 year ago
I adore Indonesian culture :)
Maju terus..... go go Indonesia
Thanks for upload
Syaelendra 2 years ago
Wow desainer Indonesia emang kreatif!!...Kebaya jaman kartini masih classic tapi kebaya sekarang dah modern dan berbagai model...Hope kebaya Indo dah di hak paten so ga ada yang ngaku2 lagi! :-)
lilagumman 2 years ago
malaysian airlines stewardess always wear kebaya from then till now. :)
NanzMediaNetwork 2 years ago
oh iya perlu diberdayain lagi nih. ya kayak penggunaan batik di hari2 tertentu buat pegawai negeri yang udah jalan, kalo bisa harinya di tmbah ato mungkin mulai senin ampe jumat pake batik ma kebaya trus juga gpp. tapi yg lbh modern and lbh simple. biar ngga kena paten lg kyk yg kmaren2 :(
ReynaEatsGum 2 years ago
ya...setuju sekali,di vietnam mereka sangat bangga menggunakan ao dai,dari pegawai negeri sampe seragam anak sekolahan semuanya pake ao dai..bisa di search di youtube..ini bisa dicontoh di Indonesia.. :)
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
desaignernya ane avanti yah??
oh i used to wore kebaya in kartini's day wen i was in highschool. and i liked it because theres no class in kartini's day yay o.0
hehe....silly me :P
ReynaEatsGum 2 years ago
not to claim please.... LOL
votecinta4president 2 years ago
um,i think it's a traditional melayu dress..but nvmind.peace and harmony.
NanzMediaNetwork 2 years ago
wow this national dress of yours really shows the real woman figure.....
whose that on 1:36, shes so pretty...damn!!!
norielhistory 2 years ago
I dunno,who she is..but i think only an amateur model..if she's famous model,all of Indonesians except me must be know who she is..
lagodaxnian 2 years ago
WOW..ADA FAHRANI ONE OF INDONESIAN COOL MODEL WAS FASHION SHOW IN MILAN, PARIS..NYC.. :) cool girl..
kanazef 2 years ago
You are welcome Bro. Have a great weekend. Selamat Pagi... or maybe selamat malam over there...
queennikki01 2 years ago
Sexy Kebaya's truly Authentic. Thanks for sharing Bro... Take care
queennikki01 2 years ago
woww!! thank you !!! :DD
lagodaxnian 2 years ago