IBM Impact 2010: Day 3 - Ray Kurzweil (part 3 of 3)

[CHAVAQUIROZ]

the world needs to take this speech in consideration.... with the occupy wall street movement going on from Spain and worldwide...

Because other wise, the philosophical proposals in politics and it's integration for corporation power can be a huge problem for the future of humanity, or the possible solution. But since humans seem so greedy lately I not so sure the result won´t be possitive.

[HueyTheDoctor87]

@Domzdreams

You are already in a virtual, computed reality. We are mere decades from creating a virtual reality simulation of THIS reality. Inside of that virtual reality, further reality frames will be created. This is the cause of the fractal nature of reality.

[focista6]

@HueyTheDoctor87 can you emphasize? I am really interested ^^

[HueyTheDoctor87]

@focista6

Search for the physicist Tom Campbell on YouTube, and if you watch his lectures any questions you have will be answered. His videos have links to the scientific papers he mentions and other reference material too.

[Domzdream]

When will real Virtual Reality be available. As in, to be actually there.

Will this only happen when we can literally plug our brains into a computer or what?

[RussellsParadox]

Shouldn't everybody in this audience have already read The Singularity is Near?

[silversobe]

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."

Albert Einstein

[verdunburnett]

well yes you could live to be over 100 without modern technology - its a fairly long shot, even by conservative estimates I would say 1:100,000 (and that would be baring infant mortality, murder, accidental death, etc. and referring only to "natural" death through typical degenerative disorders) Even so it is a moot point. Technology holds the promise to radically extend life - beyond 100 years, beyond limitations that have been hardwired into our minds. Eventually, indefinitely

[RawhardDickins]

It would be hilarious if he added some line like

"Based on this graph here you can see that the intellectual democratization brought about by the global decentralization of information technology as it permeates every facet of our culture through the nano-bio-info-cogno revolution will leave religious thinking extinct by 2100."

[verdunburnett]

Its so sad that only 928 views for something so important.

[1schwererziehbar1]

at 8:10 kurzweil shows a table that appears to prove that medical science has improved life expectancy significantly since the dawn of history.

however i highly doubt these numbers.

why?

Dan Buettner gave a TED speech this year titled "how to live to be 100+" (you can watch it on youtube).

in this speech he speaks about his research in high life expectancy. he looked all over the world to determine where people have the highest life expectancy,

[1schwererziehbar1]

and his result was that the regions with the highest life expectancies are regions where people live a very primitive life, with no modern civilization and consequently no modern medicine. many of the people in these regions get over 100 years old and still do daily hard work like young people.

[1schwererziehbar1]

therefor i find it quite implausible that people in 1900 europ would have had a life expectancy of 30 years. these statistics probably result from birth deaths only nd have little to do with life prolonging medical technology of today. .

[verdunburnett]

@1schwererziehbar1 you are correct that infant mortality was holding the overall life expectancy down, I for one am rather happy that families don't have to lose one baby for everyone they keep in the developed world. However considering the fact that all 4 of my grandparents would be dead if not for technology which didn't exist in 1900 - I think there is a great deal of plausibility to his stance on its impact. best wishes all

[AuxentiusZ]

@1schwererziehbar1 Imagine life in 1900 when vaccination was poorly understood and modern medicine was nonexistant. People had less access to what medicine was available, as it took months or years for new breakthroughs to make their way across the globe. Statistically people lived on average for this comparatively short period of time; no one is saying you dropped dead at 30 or 40.

[verdunburnett]

@1schwererziehbar1 no you misunderstood that high life expectancy is tied to primitive life styles... all the opposite. Make use of the new and abundant web resources out there and you will find out in a matter of minutes that the life expectancy in the developed world is remarkably higher. Compare Sweden to Bangladesh, then compare Japan to Cambodia if you are looking for somewhere to start your research. research that would have included a trip to the library until the last few years.

[1schwererziehbar1]

@verdunburnett

my point was not that you live longer if you have less technology and are poorer.

my point was that you can get to live over a 100 years and still be very healthy without new technology, and this has been shown very clearly in dan buettner's TED talk "how to live to be 100+".

[AuxentiusZ]

@1schwererziehbar1 Many people in these regions do not live to 100 years old. In fact, many in such regions don't reach half that age. The number of people over 100 years old has grown ONLY in industrialized nations. Statistically, your chances of reaching 100 in areas with access to modern medicine soar far and beyond, say, the jungles of subsaharan Africa or the barren hills of Afghanistan.

[1schwererziehbar1]

@AuxentiusZ

you seem to be quite the expert on this.

i know this because you make claims and state them as fact instead of showing evidence and then expect everyone to just believe you.

[joostvandeputte]

"labor productivity has gone from 30 dollars to 130 dollars in constant dollars the last 45 years because of information technologies"

[Zmitc002]

His speech is too algorithmic. It's the exact same every lecture.

[bighands69]

@Zmitc002

the speech is is the same every time as the growth of information science is exponential and ray has not change his position on it.

He is trying to educate people on this growth not put on a variety show.

[Zmitc002]

@bighands69 I understand that and I've read his books. I'm interested in his thesis. I youtube his name and sort by upload date every week or so. It just gets a tad droning hearing the story about the computer that took up a room at MIT again and again. More examples and anecdotes wouldn't hurt.

[MLGgaming360]

@Zmitc002 What the hell do you think this is? Britain's got talent? Do you expect him to do a song and dance every time he gives a presentation just to please you?

[donpengin]

Although, I wish he would use new examples of applications for these new technologies.

[eziekiel9989]

@bighands69

truth.

the needs expressed by zmitco are valid, however, and should be addressed

we need a hub of creative speculation on the possibilities of the future.

Nano fabrication coupled with massively intelligent machines will give human creativity the ultimate tool of expression.

consider the end of the book, irobot, where they ask their Computer to think up, and build a machine that traveled faster than light. that is only one mans creative vision, we need to get everyones.

[verdunburnett]

@Zmitc002 Will Smith could rap clean about it... but this guy is a scientist, an inventor, and a futurist. Albert Eisenstein would have bored you so much with his descriptions of relativity that you would have hung yourself with a cordless mouse - even though the implications of those theories boggle the mind. I agree that he is dry, but the body of research he has collected and demonstrated over the decades is compelling - warranting latitude IMO. -cheers