Bending the knee is linear style ... tendency to drop bat head as it comes thru L into V... Lock leg and rotate on axis so transition to swing plane is even
actually samprice2202 this guy is correct. You lock you lock the front leg to create power and rotation. If you bend your front knee that causes you to lunge forward and that makes you lose all of your power.
i agree with all he says up untill the point of locking out the front leg. locking the front leg defeates the purpose of shifting the weight be cause you stop the weight from moving forward and ROTATE around that axis which is rotational hitting. it doesnt make since to top the weight transfer you created to rotate this is a old video of mark but if you look at him swinging currently he will have a bent front knee allowing more weight to transfer into the ball and continuing his liner motion
allowing the front leg to bend forces you to lose much of your power. look at any hitter in the majors that isent a pitcher and 9 times out of 10 his front leg is locked.
@PrivateRyan428 this is i guess i missed my point... what i'm trying to get at is that you don't step with a locked leg because this action stops the weight from moving forward. you need some flexion to keep your weight moving forward. . .you are correct in that all will have a stiff front leg and solid hits their weight will be behind the front knee in a extended position. . . many young guys have a stiff leg through the entire swing not allowing weight to be transferred into the baseball
I am glad you explained why the squishing of the bug is bad. My son has been taught this and I saw it wasn't what I was seing with major league swings. Do you have a drill I can use to get tha squishing the bug to stop and get that weight transfer
@KitKatJunkie Sorry one more, this is fun, the fact that this is a dynamic foundation, forces moving, the locked front side is the brace you hit against, but a majority of the wieght is clearly over the back knee. I take it a step further, you had better stop the linear transfer before you even start the swing, or at least have the ability to stop it once the ball is released. otherwise you are very vulnerable to changes in speed.
@KitKatJunkie The key is the stiff front side, more or less locking the weight from transfering forward. Some guys who have almost no linear transfer such as Paul Molitor, and there are guys who have quite a bit, such as anyone who ever worked with Charlie Lau. I think our area of disagreement comes from the coaches belief that because the front side is supporting the foundation, which i agree it is, that somehow the wieght is forward, it may seem logical but only in a static foundation
@KitKatJunkie I agree the weight tranfer is linear, but only to a point. Once the hitter starts swinging, the wieght tranfer is no longer linear, and the proof is in the video, he even says it at 2:40 once the toe touch occurs the wieght rotates, where he is incorrect is where he says a majority of the weight is on the front leg and the back leg is more or less a kick stand. Well if you take a bicycle and remove the kickstand, the bike will fall in the direction of the kick stand,
I think the video is confusing a couple of different points. The weight transfer is not linear, its rotational. the linear motion occurs with the stride, but then the tranfer goes from linear to rotational once the foot lands. Look at the batter at contact, his weight is clearly back, his chin to back knee create an axis that is actually pitched back (sign of a powere hitter). He is able to do this directly because his front side is locked. Everything else in the vid I agree with.
santoak47, learn to open up, if you keep your hips closed, your arms will take over, and you'll lose power, watch the video "staying connected" by parkertraining, you'll learn much
hey, anybody got any tips for my hitting mechacnics, im 14 6´0, everytime i try to drive it out of the park, it gets more up and long, not exactly a pop up. but the trajectory is to high
rambobalboa4 asked how he could transfer weight. To make a long story short, as you take a stride, keep most of the weight on your back leg (60/40 ratio). Stride with your front knee slightly bent and stiffen the knee as you swing. Hopefully the knee is fully stiffened as you make contact. Stiffening the knee will drive the front hip back and facilitates rotation.
Another key to understanding why weight shift works but is not classical linear mechanics is because the weight shift STOPS before contact. At the moment his foot is planted the rotation begins. The weight shift increases the power of the rotation and does not detract from it. Virtually every power hitter uses weight shift with rotation.
I said center of balance before but meant center of gravity (COG). This is key - the COG has to be in the mid of the body or, preferably, towards the rear
A weight shift adds extra oomph to rotational swings. Notice that the back foot is on its front tip at the point of contact. Not conducive to carrying weight on the back leg. That weight goes somewhere and it goes to the front foot and NOT in a straight line. Because the front knee is slightly flexed and the center of balance is towards the rear, when the front foot is planted, the front leg is stiffened driving the front hip back, facilitating hip rotation.
This video is good but he does not TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT!! any drills???? it is ok to tell you what you need to do but if there is no drills, the information is useless!!! ANYONE AGREE?? u can't just say oh here is how a pro hits, so just copy him.
I disagree, there is weight transfer here. If the weight was still on the back leg, how could he go up on his back toe? He's not a ballerina. It is true the front leg is still leaning backward. Thus Tex could not sustain that position for a long period: he'd fall over. The speaker himself makes the point that the weight does not transfer as far forward as it COULD go. Perhaps gillieman thinks that Tex should have MORE transfer; but to say there's no transfer here is simply wrong.
Kind of agree with gillieman on this one. kind of. I liked the video and i like what you have to say but big tex is the worst example of what you are saying. He hangs his weight back the entire time. His center is leaning back the entire time. I believe in back to front and heel down and lock the front leg and all that stuff. But big tex is one of the worst examples of weight transfer. Right ideas, poor example. Watch pujols if you want to see correct weight transfer, or chipper, or manny or ar
there is no weight transfer here at all. it is called rotation. he is rotating into the ball. he is using his stronger lower body to rotate the weaker upper body. he is using his hips. i hope to god you are not a batting instructor. you are tottaly off on your knowledge of a wood bat swing. the body weight never leaves the back leg. it is not weight transfer, it is called a stride. I coach little league and i have the chore of correcting improper mechanics taught by people who have no clue.
Is it possible you subscribe to a linear hitting philosophy? When I look at this, all I see is the batters weight and energy being thrown from the backside into the front leg which is locked out allowing the bat to come around like a whip. It is rotation, but doesn't the rotation throw the weight into the front leg?
look at the clip, "Gehrig1c", you'll see that he strides forward almost a foot, then he leans back when his front foot plants, proper weight transfer, and, you can also see that he has no weight on his back foot ( it's up in the air)
Do what? Have weight on the front leg even though it's not vertical? It's not a bad question - certainly these comments show it's a common one. A university course in elementary statics would show that the front leg need not be vertical to have some or even most of his weight on it. Due to his forward movement, his weight is actually pushing down his bent leg, not directly opposing gravity. This is an unstable position, of course: he either needs to fall over or fall back, and does the latter.
if he is angled back how does he have his weight on his front leg ? and what about closed and open stance hitters ? they dont stride to transfer weight
True, you do not have to stride to transfer weight. But a stride like this is certainly one way to do it, and the one the instructor thinks the most effective. Certainly the more you step, the more you can use the big muscles to move yourself forward - you're using the big quads rather than the small abductors you'd use without any stride.
'Coach'... The batter is CLEARLY angled back towards the catcher as he swings. Explain how 'significant' transfer of weight forward is possible. Secondly, the batter is ROTATING about an imaginary axis as you say. This means then that the right side is going back while the back side comes forward. IS this what you are referring to or are you saying weight transfer towards the pitcher??
your front foot MUST be open at least 45 degrees to allow the hips to come through, if it's not it'll do the same exact thing as the "boat ancor effect" that he describes in the clip (keeping the hips from coming through)
if you stride with your foot too open, you will open your front hip too soon. i teach to stride with your foot closed which will not hinder your hip action. your foot will open on its own when you swing. try it and see.
be careful about following advice from people who use the word "rotational" hitting! everyone hits with rotation if they use their hips properly. one problem some hitters have is opening their front hip too soon and loosing power.
Stymie, With rotational mechanics we believe that the front foot should be open to allow the hips to completely clear. If you go google photos of Barry Bonds and other hitters....Bonds will tweak his swing sometimes and he will leave his front foot open and closed and if you will notice the photos of him with his front foot closed, his hips only come about halfway through. For Bonds, hes so strong it wont matter but for our kids it would hinder the power. Thats just my opinion.
It really doesn't matter as long as a player is not completely closed with the stride foot. I know a lot of coaches teach a specific angle(45 degree) with the plant foot and that is fine. However, I always let players find their own stride and plant foot position for the most part, as long as it is not closing their hips off too much. The more natural the mechanics the better.
I notice the hitter (Texiera) has his foot landing with the toes already almost facing the pitcher. I always have it facing towards the first base dugout (right handed) does it matter? Or which is better?
where did the ball go? way to leave us hanging
mahousux 10 months ago
Bending the knee is linear style ... tendency to drop bat head as it comes thru L into V... Lock leg and rotate on axis so transition to swing plane is even
RDoctorD 1 year ago
Good analysis... Anyone know a good swinging drill for youth learning rotational hitting that will reinforce good plant/transfer?
RDoctorD 1 year ago
actually samprice2202 this guy is correct. You lock you lock the front leg to create power and rotation. If you bend your front knee that causes you to lunge forward and that makes you lose all of your power.
katieizcooleeo 1 year ago
i agree with all he says up untill the point of locking out the front leg. locking the front leg defeates the purpose of shifting the weight be cause you stop the weight from moving forward and ROTATE around that axis which is rotational hitting. it doesnt make since to top the weight transfer you created to rotate this is a old video of mark but if you look at him swinging currently he will have a bent front knee allowing more weight to transfer into the ball and continuing his liner motion
samprice2202 1 year ago
@samprice2202
allowing the front leg to bend forces you to lose much of your power. look at any hitter in the majors that isent a pitcher and 9 times out of 10 his front leg is locked.
PrivateRyan428 1 year ago
@PrivateRyan428 this is i guess i missed my point... what i'm trying to get at is that you don't step with a locked leg because this action stops the weight from moving forward. you need some flexion to keep your weight moving forward. . .you are correct in that all will have a stiff front leg and solid hits their weight will be behind the front knee in a extended position. . . many young guys have a stiff leg through the entire swing not allowing weight to be transferred into the baseball
samprice2202 1 year ago
Parker explains rotational weight shift perfectly. JR
jrdagres 1 year ago
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jrdagres 1 year ago
I am glad you explained why the squishing of the bug is bad. My son has been taught this and I saw it wasn't what I was seing with major league swings. Do you have a drill I can use to get tha squishing the bug to stop and get that weight transfer
Kouma2112 1 year ago
@KitKatJunkie Sorry one more, this is fun, the fact that this is a dynamic foundation, forces moving, the locked front side is the brace you hit against, but a majority of the wieght is clearly over the back knee. I take it a step further, you had better stop the linear transfer before you even start the swing, or at least have the ability to stop it once the ball is released. otherwise you are very vulnerable to changes in speed.
Shamrock3939 1 year ago
@KitKatJunkie The key is the stiff front side, more or less locking the weight from transfering forward. Some guys who have almost no linear transfer such as Paul Molitor, and there are guys who have quite a bit, such as anyone who ever worked with Charlie Lau. I think our area of disagreement comes from the coaches belief that because the front side is supporting the foundation, which i agree it is, that somehow the wieght is forward, it may seem logical but only in a static foundation
Shamrock3939 1 year ago
@Shamrock3939 Amen.
JLIV461 1 year ago
@KitKatJunkie I agree the weight tranfer is linear, but only to a point. Once the hitter starts swinging, the wieght tranfer is no longer linear, and the proof is in the video, he even says it at 2:40 once the toe touch occurs the wieght rotates, where he is incorrect is where he says a majority of the weight is on the front leg and the back leg is more or less a kick stand. Well if you take a bicycle and remove the kickstand, the bike will fall in the direction of the kick stand,
Shamrock3939 1 year ago
KV- this guy may be monotone but he is exactly right.
kvause 1 year ago
I think the video is confusing a couple of different points. The weight transfer is not linear, its rotational. the linear motion occurs with the stride, but then the tranfer goes from linear to rotational once the foot lands. Look at the batter at contact, his weight is clearly back, his chin to back knee create an axis that is actually pitched back (sign of a powere hitter). He is able to do this directly because his front side is locked. Everything else in the vid I agree with.
Shamrock3939 1 year ago
Would be a good video if this guy wasn't so monotone
Hworth8 2 years ago
the best way to hit homeruns is to take steroids.
jaktigmidblinx 2 years ago
lol
Hworth8 2 years ago
santoak47, learn to open up, if you keep your hips closed, your arms will take over, and you'll lose power, watch the video "staying connected" by parkertraining, you'll learn much
LearnToTurn7 2 years ago
hey, anybody got any tips for my hitting mechacnics, im 14 6´0, everytime i try to drive it out of the park, it gets more up and long, not exactly a pop up. but the trajectory is to high
p.s. my swing is like ichiro, closed.
santoak47 2 years ago
rambobalboa4 asked how he could transfer weight. To make a long story short, as you take a stride, keep most of the weight on your back leg (60/40 ratio). Stride with your front knee slightly bent and stiffen the knee as you swing. Hopefully the knee is fully stiffened as you make contact. Stiffening the knee will drive the front hip back and facilitates rotation.
NLS4209 2 years ago
dude how can i transfer my weight, your not clear, explaine more
rambobalboa4 2 years ago
SomeGreenTea- why don't you lick yourself? People can post their opinion whenever they want!
lol
caspermilktoast77 2 years ago
Another key to understanding why weight shift works but is not classical linear mechanics is because the weight shift STOPS before contact. At the moment his foot is planted the rotation begins. The weight shift increases the power of the rotation and does not detract from it. Virtually every power hitter uses weight shift with rotation.
I said center of balance before but meant center of gravity (COG). This is key - the COG has to be in the mid of the body or, preferably, towards the rear
NLS4209 2 years ago
A weight shift adds extra oomph to rotational swings. Notice that the back foot is on its front tip at the point of contact. Not conducive to carrying weight on the back leg. That weight goes somewhere and it goes to the front foot and NOT in a straight line. Because the front knee is slightly flexed and the center of balance is towards the rear, when the front foot is planted, the front leg is stiffened driving the front hip back, facilitating hip rotation.
NLS4209 2 years ago
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NLS4209 2 years ago
This video is good but he does not TELL YOU HOW TO DO IT!! any drills???? it is ok to tell you what you need to do but if there is no drills, the information is useless!!! ANYONE AGREE?? u can't just say oh here is how a pro hits, so just copy him.
JLeeMagnetic 2 years ago
I disagree, there is weight transfer here. If the weight was still on the back leg, how could he go up on his back toe? He's not a ballerina. It is true the front leg is still leaning backward. Thus Tex could not sustain that position for a long period: he'd fall over. The speaker himself makes the point that the weight does not transfer as far forward as it COULD go. Perhaps gillieman thinks that Tex should have MORE transfer; but to say there's no transfer here is simply wrong.
gbisaga 2 years ago
Kind of agree with gillieman on this one. kind of. I liked the video and i like what you have to say but big tex is the worst example of what you are saying. He hangs his weight back the entire time. His center is leaning back the entire time. I believe in back to front and heel down and lock the front leg and all that stuff. But big tex is one of the worst examples of weight transfer. Right ideas, poor example. Watch pujols if you want to see correct weight transfer, or chipper, or manny or ar
mrsschill 3 years ago
there is no weight transfer here at all. it is called rotation. he is rotating into the ball. he is using his stronger lower body to rotate the weaker upper body. he is using his hips. i hope to god you are not a batting instructor. you are tottaly off on your knowledge of a wood bat swing. the body weight never leaves the back leg. it is not weight transfer, it is called a stride. I coach little league and i have the chore of correcting improper mechanics taught by people who have no clue.
gillieman760 3 years ago
Is it possible you subscribe to a linear hitting philosophy? When I look at this, all I see is the batters weight and energy being thrown from the backside into the front leg which is locked out allowing the bat to come around like a whip. It is rotation, but doesn't the rotation throw the weight into the front leg?
eichler34 2 years ago
u have no clue
ozunasox 2 years ago
You're a complete dumbass. DO NOT POST ANYTHING UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
SomeGreenTea 2 years ago
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mason765 3 years ago
look at the clip, "Gehrig1c", you'll see that he strides forward almost a foot, then he leans back when his front foot plants, proper weight transfer, and, you can also see that he has no weight on his back foot ( it's up in the air)
LearnToTurn7 3 years ago
right, but how does he do that ?
mason765 3 years ago
Do what? Have weight on the front leg even though it's not vertical? It's not a bad question - certainly these comments show it's a common one. A university course in elementary statics would show that the front leg need not be vertical to have some or even most of his weight on it. Due to his forward movement, his weight is actually pushing down his bent leg, not directly opposing gravity. This is an unstable position, of course: he either needs to fall over or fall back, and does the latter.
gbisaga 2 years ago
if he is angled back how does he have his weight on his front leg ? and what about closed and open stance hitters ? they dont stride to transfer weight
mason765 3 years ago
True, you do not have to stride to transfer weight. But a stride like this is certainly one way to do it, and the one the instructor thinks the most effective. Certainly the more you step, the more you can use the big muscles to move yourself forward - you're using the big quads rather than the small abductors you'd use without any stride.
gbisaga 2 years ago
'Coach'... The batter is CLEARLY angled back towards the catcher as he swings. Explain how 'significant' transfer of weight forward is possible. Secondly, the batter is ROTATING about an imaginary axis as you say. This means then that the right side is going back while the back side comes forward. IS this what you are referring to or are you saying weight transfer towards the pitcher??
cheycharoden 3 years ago
your front foot MUST be open at least 45 degrees to allow the hips to come through, if it's not it'll do the same exact thing as the "boat ancor effect" that he describes in the clip (keeping the hips from coming through)
LearnToTurn7 3 years ago
stymie- keep doing what you're doing!
if you stride with your foot too open, you will open your front hip too soon. i teach to stride with your foot closed which will not hinder your hip action. your foot will open on its own when you swing. try it and see.
be careful about following advice from people who use the word "rotational" hitting! everyone hits with rotation if they use their hips properly. one problem some hitters have is opening their front hip too soon and loosing power.
caspermilktoast77 3 years ago
or pulling off the ball.
caspermilktoast77 3 years ago
Stymie, With rotational mechanics we believe that the front foot should be open to allow the hips to completely clear. If you go google photos of Barry Bonds and other hitters....Bonds will tweak his swing sometimes and he will leave his front foot open and closed and if you will notice the photos of him with his front foot closed, his hips only come about halfway through. For Bonds, hes so strong it wont matter but for our kids it would hinder the power. Thats just my opinion.
otisdawhino 3 years ago
It really doesn't matter as long as a player is not completely closed with the stride foot. I know a lot of coaches teach a specific angle(45 degree) with the plant foot and that is fine. However, I always let players find their own stride and plant foot position for the most part, as long as it is not closing their hips off too much. The more natural the mechanics the better.
kcabkcabkcab 3 years ago
I notice the hitter (Texiera) has his foot landing with the toes already almost facing the pitcher. I always have it facing towards the first base dugout (right handed) does it matter? Or which is better?
stymiejake50 3 years ago