@ot42bpm probably right. In this movie they only danced the dance one time and then just walked down in circles, then parading back to front - where's the fun in that?
Almost nothing to do with the actual dance. The version in Pride and Prejudice WAS the real dance, beautifully adapted to the dialogue. This one is right out of the choreographer's fertile imagination, and there was no reason at all to change it since there ISN'T any dialogue.
And they're both totally out of period. Mr. Beveridge's Maggot is several decades too late for either book.
which Polonaise step variation is it? ...why the one with the rise on step 2, after the bending step on 3-1...here we see that they do it in a sitting position as many beginners do...
Does anyone else absolutely adore the short pudgy girl in red? I love that she's dancing, and she's just as elegant as the other girls when she dances!
@MegamiTenchi Yes! She's awesome! I love it because I look much more like her than like Gwyneth Paltrow, size-wise, and I love going to Jane Austen balls. :)
@dance1700 Actually this one is less authentic. There's too much intimacy and they all look too flowy and relaxed. Also, this one is far more complicated than the usual country dance. There is too much going on.
This is generally referred to as "English Country Dance", and this dance in particular is "Mr Beveridge's Maggot" from 17th-18th century Playford's "The Dancing Master". Depending on your location, country etc. if you can find any sort of English Country Dancing club/group they should be able to teach many Playford dances, as these ares taples of the repertoire. I absolutely love doing them.
Men would have never put their arm around the waist of a woman. That was highly improper. We clearly see ideas of the 20th century. Also the "Jazz dancing like" way of bending men's legs. They danced in a rather stiff way at that time.
One question (other than on the unrealistic staging): Why are some of the gentleman wearing Hessians (boots)? This is a ball; standard protocol would be stockings and dancing shoes.
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Because the stockings and dancing shoes look ridiculous - I couldn't stop laughing in P&P95. I'm all for historical accuracy to a certain extent, but improving aesthetics in a way that is still believable is more important, I think.
even though I didn't live at that time I want to shout: where has that time gone?? this was such a lovely time, where people still knew what elegance, class and good manners meant...
What great times indeed! The mob died in the mud, but who cares? Brave old world where a great deal of the population starved, were tortured or hanged for little.
You can find "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot" on the CD "English Country Dances from Playford's Dancing Master 1651-1703" by The Broadside Band. It's available on Amazon and you can listen to a snippet, which has a faster tempo than the version in the movie "Emma", and uses instruments from an earlier era.
Continued: A reviewer wrote that it is the only version that (s)he has been able to find, but I have found that an English group, the Pemberley Players (they of the ITV's version of "Northanger Abbey"), has put out two collections of music from the various Austen movies. Go to fleming-williams dot co dot uk / publications and click on P & P Collection Vol. II. Perhaps this will sound more contemporary to the era.
In fact, Mr.Knightley hold Emma in his arms when she was a baby. He is an intimate of the family, a CLOSE FRIEND of A WOMAN (however difficult it is!!) in a time when women were seen as an object to obtain their money. See Declaracion en Emma Mark Strong ITV to understand their relationship, if you are so kind. Then, tell me what you think of.
Did you sjaeckh and gfa527 see the Emma's ITV & A&E's version, (1996)? It's more alike P&P (1995) in the enviroment and characters, and more faithful to the book than this one, of course!!!
This version is so much more smooth and nice than the one in Pride and Prejudice...of course that is my opinion and no offense to rabid Janeites out there :0)
But what is going on? They start the dance one way (butting in at the head of the couples, yet) and then they just cast, cast, cast down the line and the dance is over! Mr. Knightly looks like he's enjoying it, though!
The P&P version is a bit clonky and awkward, largely because the music is at a slower tempo, suited to a different step, and so the simple walking step can not move smoothly. The choreography, however, is more accurate, as they dance down the set and return in the second position. The mid-dance entrance and repeated cast figure used here is a screenwriter's device, and unlikely to happen at a real dance.
OMG I saw the whole movie on saturday (BBC2) and I just LOVED it!!! I wonder when Pride and Prejudice will be broadcasted (again:P) thanx for uploading
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2009 version
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Best dance scene of all Austen adaptations ever
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DarkOrMisunderstood 3 weeks ago
Ewan McGregor dancing ...Awesome.
spiceonian 2 months ago
I love this version, the way his arm is around her waist, beautifull
joseesje10679 2 months ago
Well i loved this beautiful piece of dancing ,so elegant ,smooth ,and flowing ,I only
wish that i was young enough to dance as expertly as they have in the video ,whoever
posted this video deserves a medal well done,
lawomega1 4 months ago
Unconvincing! I don't think they would have danced like that in P&P's time, especially the men! The whole thing appears too contrived.
ot42bpm 5 months ago 3
@ot42bpm probably right. In this movie they only danced the dance one time and then just walked down in circles, then parading back to front - where's the fun in that?
saschalupo 2 months ago
I like the woman with the red sash on her shoulder.
lacouerfairy 7 months ago
Mr. Knightley bringing sexy back! :D
AlasseaEruvande 8 months ago 4
He's surprisingly light on his feet. =) That's a refreshing sight these days.
AkiraChan24 9 months ago
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sircharles2012 9 months ago
Almost nothing to do with the actual dance. The version in Pride and Prejudice WAS the real dance, beautifully adapted to the dialogue. This one is right out of the choreographer's fertile imagination, and there was no reason at all to change it since there ISN'T any dialogue.
And they're both totally out of period. Mr. Beveridge's Maggot is several decades too late for either book.
jonberger 1 year ago 4
This is not right, looks better in TV probebly, hmm.
1trollet 1 year ago
I like this version best.=D
luna4ever36 1 year ago
which Polonaise step variation is it? ...why the one with the rise on step 2, after the bending step on 3-1...here we see that they do it in a sitting position as many beginners do...
POLMAZURKA 1 year ago
@POLMAZURKA Right, this is a polonaise, and not any English Country Dance. They didn't dance like this in the Regency England.
sylwiatime 1 year ago
this so easy to count 1,2,3...but isn't it suppose to be 2/4?
POLMAZURKA 1 year ago
How the heck does one remember how to do that, maybe all they did was practice and practice lol
esteff22 1 year ago
Does anyone else absolutely adore the short pudgy girl in red? I love that she's dancing, and she's just as elegant as the other girls when she dances!
MegamiTenchi 1 year ago 38
@MegamiTenchi Yes! She's awesome! I love it because I look much more like her than like Gwyneth Paltrow, size-wise, and I love going to Jane Austen balls. :)
mimmar3891 10 months ago
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Its gotta be awkward for a guy to dance like that not a straight guy dance.
NarnianQueen89 2 years ago
The version in Pride and Prejudice is much better!
orlande22 2 years ago 28
@orlande22 but this one is more authentic
dance1700 2 years ago
it doesn't matter this one doesn't feel right, there is no dramatic tension. I demand close-ups!
orlande22 2 years ago 6
@dance1700 Actually this one is less authentic. There's too much intimacy and they all look too flowy and relaxed. Also, this one is far more complicated than the usual country dance. There is too much going on.
SilverSiana 2 years ago
I agree. but this has an interesting cascading figure in it...
dbmozart 2 years ago 2
@orlande22 The dance seems smoother in Emma. Less like a march, and more like a dance.
artfullyevraftr 1 year ago
I love this scene!
wallisar 2 years ago
That looks just amazing. I wish I could dance like that. What is the name of this kind of dance/dancing?
x675 2 years ago
This is generally referred to as "English Country Dance", and this dance in particular is "Mr Beveridge's Maggot" from 17th-18th century Playford's "The Dancing Master". Depending on your location, country etc. if you can find any sort of English Country Dancing club/group they should be able to teach many Playford dances, as these ares taples of the repertoire. I absolutely love doing them.
absolutelyJAmad 2 years ago 5
wow i just got confused looking at that lol
Kaye9876 2 years ago 2
Men would have never put their arm around the waist of a woman. That was highly improper. We clearly see ideas of the 20th century. Also the "Jazz dancing like" way of bending men's legs. They danced in a rather stiff way at that time.
silverbud 2 years ago 4
One question (other than on the unrealistic staging): Why are some of the gentleman wearing Hessians (boots)? This is a ball; standard protocol would be stockings and dancing shoes.
tregnier279 2 years ago 5
Surely you are not expecting historical accuracy from a Hollywood movie...??? :-P
FlaviaR 2 years ago 2
Good point. I suppose that's why some gentlemen were wearing trousers to what is obviously a formal event.
tregnier279 2 years ago
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Because the stockings and dancing shoes look ridiculous - I couldn't stop laughing in P&P95. I'm all for historical accuracy to a certain extent, but improving aesthetics in a way that is still believable is more important, I think.
ChocolateIsMyDrug 2 years ago
I would disagree. I many cases, I think the stockings look better (especially during the dancing scenes.)
Besides, all the gentleman would be wearing the boots during the day anyway.
tregnier279 2 years ago
It is an American production, that is why. Americans do whatever they like and usually don't care for authenticity.
silverbud 2 years ago 5
even though I didn't live at that time I want to shout: where has that time gone?? this was such a lovely time, where people still knew what elegance, class and good manners meant...
xavierob 2 years ago 5
What great times indeed! The mob died in the mud, but who cares? Brave old world where a great deal of the population starved, were tortured or hanged for little.
silverbud 2 years ago
OMG! Love this movie!! :)
54spiritedwill54 3 years ago
Прекрасный образец!
Antony1938 3 years ago
Ohh! Este baile me gusta mucho, y Emma y Knightley se ven muy bien bailando.....
Ahhhh!!!!
anndarcypyp 4 years ago
does anybody have any idea where i can find the song??? pls, been looking for it for a long time, but no luck. :-(
shuurey 4 years ago
You can find "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot" on the CD "English Country Dances from Playford's Dancing Master 1651-1703" by The Broadside Band. It's available on Amazon and you can listen to a snippet, which has a faster tempo than the version in the movie "Emma", and uses instruments from an earlier era.
bonitchka 4 years ago
Continued: A reviewer wrote that it is the only version that (s)he has been able to find, but I have found that an English group, the Pemberley Players (they of the ITV's version of "Northanger Abbey"), has put out two collections of music from the various Austen movies. Go to fleming-williams dot co dot uk / publications and click on P & P Collection Vol. II. Perhaps this will sound more contemporary to the era.
bonitchka 4 years ago 3
Put ur hands up in da air if u like sophie thompson!
splotraider 4 years ago 2
In fact, Mr.Knightley hold Emma in his arms when she was a baby. He is an intimate of the family, a CLOSE FRIEND of A WOMAN (however difficult it is!!) in a time when women were seen as an object to obtain their money. See Declaracion en Emma Mark Strong ITV to understand their relationship, if you are so kind. Then, tell me what you think of.
TXEKU 4 years ago
i didnt know they were alowed to touch waists back then!
mrstilney 4 years ago
pretty cool dance - be worthy of bringing something like that back rather than the stupid grind and bop of today,
feurzug 4 years ago
I agree, it would certainly ramp up the sexual tension if we weren't allowed to get all nasty on the dance floor...haha
sjaeckh 4 years ago
Did you sjaeckh and gfa527 see the Emma's ITV & A&E's version, (1996)? It's more alike P&P (1995) in the enviroment and characters, and more faithful to the book than this one, of course!!!
TXEKU 4 years ago
No I didn't! Interesting...
sjaeckh 4 years ago
This version is so much more smooth and nice than the one in Pride and Prejudice...of course that is my opinion and no offense to rabid Janeites out there :0)
sjaeckh 4 years ago
I completely agree with your assessment. The P&P version doesn't flow as freely as this version of the dance.
gfa527 4 years ago
But what is going on? They start the dance one way (butting in at the head of the couples, yet) and then they just cast, cast, cast down the line and the dance is over! Mr. Knightly looks like he's enjoying it, though!
Poodlepups 4 years ago 2
The P&P version is a bit clonky and awkward, largely because the music is at a slower tempo, suited to a different step, and so the simple walking step can not move smoothly. The choreography, however, is more accurate, as they dance down the set and return in the second position. The mid-dance entrance and repeated cast figure used here is a screenwriter's device, and unlikely to happen at a real dance.
cjsw02139 4 years ago
I just love these dance scenes in Period dramas...this is lovely...Zeynep sent it to me..gone to faves.Y.
brandnewnoviciate 4 years ago
on this music dance Darcy with Lizzie in Pride and Prejudice
mereucopil 4 years ago
*smiles* love this scene and music! thanks for posting it up!
abira 4 years ago
:D amazing movie, tried to rent it today but they didnt have a copy in the store:( oh well, ill try again soon!
MaddieLovesSundance 4 years ago
OMG I saw the whole movie on saturday (BBC2) and I just LOVED it!!! I wonder when Pride and Prejudice will be broadcasted (again:P) thanx for uploading
DAGG 4 years ago
love it!!!
diana1255 5 years ago
Aaaaaaaaaaaah I love this music! and also Mr. Knightley hehe ^__^ I wish I could find this version of the music to download *pout*
BlocPartylover 5 years ago
OMG! Love this movie!! :)
JaneEyreRules 5 years ago