It was not the first rap, it was a poem to publicise the GPO in 1936.
Nor is it a rave - it was and still is a perfectly serious commercial about the GPO.
The inhabitants of Scotland are not all asleep, it says thousands not all; the point being the post arrived early eg 5.30am and ready for delivery when people wake up.
One of my favourite Grierson-era documentaries. Quite ironic given how crap the postal service is these days. Us socialists are trying to campaign against the closure of sorting offices and the privatisation of the industry.
My post now has to travel 35 miles to Wolverhampton to be sorted (after the closure of the local one) to come BACK 35 miles north to be delivered!!
Don't anyone DARE tamper with this. "Remix" indeed! This GPO Film Unit Film is a Gem. A captured moment of history. The poetry of W H Auden, to music by Benjamin Brittan, narrated by John Grierson; what kind of mayhem might a spotty adolescent with a modern music machine wreak on this?
srry, :( i dunno how this got here.. i never was on this video before :S plz dont call me a sad-act, because i wasnt the guy that posted that SPAM.. because thats what it is.. spam.. ow wait.. i can delete it :O gonna do that then :)
They were the days i would have loved too live in....i always feel sad and emotional at the same time when i see something like this, and when i wish i was living in those days. They were the days before life removed all innocence...
What a fine video! I always had a hard time warming up to this poem, until I saw this -- the reading is spot-on. Also, forgive my ignorance, but is the railway featured the old LMS?
My Wife's grandfather is the fireman on the train (takes his cap off and sweeeps back his hair). I only found this out after giving her my video of this film which I recorded fifteen years before we met. We now live happily in Granite Aberdeen ourselves.
'Rapper'? This is a very immature comment. What you watched was a fine and celebrated example from the British Documentary Movement. Cut to fit the visuals the verse by W H Auden rhythmically concludes the film. If you can't see the film for what it is then you really shouldn't comment.
I love this! me and my friend actually wet ourselves when watching this! now when anyone says "mail" or "trains" we just go into fits and start crying!! lol funniest thing i have ever heard!
Interesting that a few have posted thinking it was John Betjeman's voice and poetry - he had nothing to do with this, although a lot of his work did involve the railways.
Brilliant no doubt. I always thought it was an actor called John Clemments who read the poem and the commentry was by Scottish actor, Findlay Curry. Might be wrong though. Any takers...
The voices belong to Englishman Stuart Legg and Scotsman John Grierson. Both of whom were famous producer/directors of short films in their own right.
As A retired Royal Mail Employee I have watched this vidio many times and have worked on the TPOs Those were the days when royal mail did things right
i always liked this poem, it looks back at how Britains railways were the heart of the country. I always enjoyed looking at the little things that are no more, such as, banking engines up shap, the now gone infastructure and of course the many thousands of men and boys employed on the railway.
Well, it's pretty much the definitive British railway poem. You'd be hard pressed to find a British railway enthusiast who doesn't know at least the opening verse.
It was actually a poem written by W.H. Auden. Its a wonderful poem. With a wonderful rythmn. Its just shame at the time the Duchesses had not been built yet!
The full film is near 30 minutes long. It tracks the mail train on its journey from London to Glasgow. But the closing section acompanied by the John Betjeman poem is the most famous part of it. I am sure you can buy the full version on DVD and it can be viewed 'on demand' in the main hall at the National Railway Museum, York.
One of the most priceless railway documentaries ever produced. Shame that nowadays, they just take bags of mail rather than sort it en route; it's just not the same as it was. Thanks for the grand clip bmbgeekclub.
Many thanks for posting this, a reminder of when times were in some ways simpler but people were more interdependent. I think it's Auden's finest work - mainly because I don't like any of his other stuff.
I like this. There was a BR advert a bit like this back in the 80's. some of the words were....... 'this is the passenger train full of commuters bound for the city to work on computers' etc. That's all I can remember, good advert though.
This is great! I attendended a TPO event at the nenv valley and the line 'this is the nightmail, crossing the border bringing the cheque and the postal order' I heard at least 10 times from the 'night mail' veterans.
oh dear lord....my college and university days are coming back on this one and that bloody coursework on it! having to watch it like....3 times!!!!!! ha ha ha
I did this poem at school as well in the 80's. Auden was an amazing poet. I am not sure about the choice of Benajamin Britten for the music , Ralph Vaughn Williams would have been a better choice. Ramage49 is spot on about the "rap". As a film maker myself I have decided that I will re-make a contemporary version.
Itz Nightmail like a bawuss, NIGGAAAH.
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. aeiou.
replyandyousuckballs 3 weeks ago
My teacher showed it it's so funny
bnt12671 4 months ago
my teacher showed us this in a music lesson... i think its awesome!!! :)
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@chessyproductionsLTD it's the 1930s and it's britain not germany
TheSteamdriver 6 months ago
He turns into Busta Rhymes at 1:42.
MrGoldenmine 1 year ago 4
Really encapsulates the feeling Auden would have wanted. The lyricism of the words playing alongside the T-beam of the wheel sets.
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LOL they showed me this at school
leothelion19 1 year ago
@leothelion19 sames and we was rapping to it :L xx
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ICExRED 1 year ago
perfectly history in motion
mattbozi89 1 year ago
would sound good with a gabber bass
MrMccarron 1 year ago 3
It was not the first rap, it was a poem to publicise the GPO in 1936.
Nor is it a rave - it was and still is a perfectly serious commercial about the GPO.
The inhabitants of Scotland are not all asleep, it says thousands not all; the point being the post arrived early eg 5.30am and ready for delivery when people wake up.
HoodedFig900 2 years ago
thanks l been looking for this a long time all here is that makeover shit thanks.
MorrisManDanceMan 2 years ago
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its in my english book^^ ist very fucking shit^^
Luigiderdicke 2 years ago
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Yeah, and the jocks are always asleep, nothing new about that
zigzag909 2 years ago
Was this the first rap
zigzag909 2 years ago
Or a '1930s 'rave' lol
89001avocet 2 years ago 3
totally fucking brilliant!!
on of the best poems ever!!!
01593721865 2 years ago 12
i fucking agree!
WH Auden at his industrial best. Poetry for industry and the working man
RufusT9 2 years ago 5
@01593721865 I totally agree I love steam trains
sandi43able 10 months ago
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favorietemuziek 2 years ago
Nightmail in da house
The1orangeDude 2 years ago 3
is this the streets
boognish1975 2 years ago
One of my favourite Grierson-era documentaries. Quite ironic given how crap the postal service is these days. Us socialists are trying to campaign against the closure of sorting offices and the privatisation of the industry.
My post now has to travel 35 miles to Wolverhampton to be sorted (after the closure of the local one) to come BACK 35 miles north to be delivered!!
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epiCnIGraRiNSeOUt 2 years ago
or say what's the name of oldest rap album
OlSkooLHipHop 2 years ago
what's is the album of this song ????pls say
OlSkooLHipHop 2 years ago
\o/ 1936 rap \o/
r0udy 2 years ago 5
Sh*t like this has given this American a serious appreciation for the prewar British rail network.
Especially love how SLOW the locomotive is going at 1:08. What is that, like 20mph?
epiCnIGraRiNSeOUt 2 years ago
This would be great remixed
Cr4zyCart3r 3 years ago
BR kind-of did later...it went badly wrong
89001avocet 3 years ago
Don't anyone DARE tamper with this. "Remix" indeed! This GPO Film Unit Film is a Gem. A captured moment of history. The poetry of W H Auden, to music by Benjamin Brittan, narrated by John Grierson; what kind of mayhem might a spotty adolescent with a modern music machine wreak on this?
Muteswan1 3 years ago
Utterly brilliant..."A 1938 Rave" according to me mate!! 8-)
89001avocet 3 years ago 2
no fucking banks to shut em down unlike today or the new labour tossers to sell em off to there rich mates all the best from yorkshire
2329250 3 years ago
Well said!!
89001avocet 3 years ago
thank you
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Rainbowstunting 3 years ago
You sad-act!!
89001avocet 3 years ago
srry, :( i dunno how this got here.. i never was on this video before :S plz dont call me a sad-act, because i wasnt the guy that posted that SPAM.. because thats what it is.. spam.. ow wait.. i can delete it :O gonna do that then :)
Rainbowstunting 3 years ago
They were the days i would have loved too live in....i always feel sad and emotional at the same time when i see something like this, and when i wish i was living in those days. They were the days before life removed all innocence...
Edwardo1993 3 years ago
1:43 to 2:16 1st hiphop song ever to come out.
tableturns77 3 years ago 4
>D HAHAHA! A friend of mine said the same thing when we watched this in our Doc class. Deadly.
CheenQueen 3 years ago
LOL our english homework was towatch this!!!!!!! how cool is that!!!
tuneman10 3 years ago
how can you not love this
cremulator69 3 years ago
What a fine video! I always had a hard time warming up to this poem, until I saw this -- the reading is spot-on. Also, forgive my ignorance, but is the railway featured the old LMS?
aeolus925 3 years ago 2
Yes indeed. Wikipedia has an explanation. The poem was written for the film.
thayer61 3 years ago
Brilliant film by the GPO, just love W.H.Auden's poetry.
An also must watch is Metro-Land - John Betjeman (1973)
Odziz 3 years ago
My Wife's grandfather is the fireman on the train (takes his cap off and sweeeps back his hair). I only found this out after giving her my video of this film which I recorded fifteen years before we met. We now live happily in Granite Aberdeen ourselves.
thebrownell 3 years ago 2
thank you so much for posting this
i have looked for ages for it
iainplaying 3 years ago 3
Fascinating! I'm so glad I finally got to see this. I love Benjamin Britten's music.
papergrace 3 years ago
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im friends with xFallxInxLuvx ....we pissed our selves when we herd this lol its like a wrapper but failing badly
clowno01 3 years ago
o i don't know, he doesn't miss a beat.
streaky1981 3 years ago 3
'Rapper'? This is a very immature comment. What you watched was a fine and celebrated example from the British Documentary Movement. Cut to fit the visuals the verse by W H Auden rhythmically concludes the film. If you can't see the film for what it is then you really shouldn't comment.
ItsMyOpinion1 3 years ago 2
I love this! me and my friend actually wet ourselves when watching this! now when anyone says "mail" or "trains" we just go into fits and start crying!! lol funniest thing i have ever heard!
xFallxInxLuvx 3 years ago
A wonderful poem from the master!
biahoi 3 years ago
Brilliant. One of favourites.
GrandPrix55 3 years ago 2
Many many thanks for posting loved the poem
adamps16 3 years ago 2
Its official Britian invented rap music
ACNC1 3 years ago 3
No that was Arthur Askey's seaside band,this is classed as slam poetry not rap,fantastic stuff though!
FreakBeastie 3 years ago
What a classic! I remember watching the full program on tv in the early 90s when it was reshown.
dctim 3 years ago
2 of my pupils used this for the recitation part of their ESB examination.
headstandking 4 years ago
classic Love the old days of steam
croda1960 4 years ago
Many thanks for posting. We recited this for a competition at my school 50 years ago and I still remember it! Do kids still learn poetry today?
leoseries 4 years ago
Yeah, but it's mainly nothing about nothingness, well AQA English A GCSE is...
euanpw 4 years ago
legend
whhornsey 4 years ago
Interesting that a few have posted thinking it was John Betjeman's voice and poetry - he had nothing to do with this, although a lot of his work did involve the railways.
lim0nare 4 years ago
W H Auden
jimbob1969 4 years ago
brap brap!!
xtinalovesyou 4 years ago
Brilliant no doubt. I always thought it was an actor called John Clemments who read the poem and the commentry was by Scottish actor, Findlay Curry. Might be wrong though. Any takers...
annieqou 4 years ago
The voices belong to Englishman Stuart Legg and Scotsman John Grierson. Both of whom were famous producer/directors of short films in their own right.
hebdag44 4 years ago
Bazza 4522
As A retired Royal Mail Employee I have watched this vidio many times and have worked on the TPOs Those were the days when royal mail did things right
bazza4522 4 years ago
Those were the days when we did a lot of things right.
chazsmateII 3 years ago 2
i always liked this poem, it looks back at how Britains railways were the heart of the country. I always enjoyed looking at the little things that are no more, such as, banking engines up shap, the now gone infastructure and of course the many thousands of men and boys employed on the railway.
stationendproduction 4 years ago
DAMN. I remember when this had 500 views. It's blown up.
So it must be a UK thing yeah?
HalogenBurn 4 years ago
Well, it's pretty much the definitive British railway poem. You'd be hard pressed to find a British railway enthusiast who doesn't know at least the opening verse.
ruddigore28 4 years ago
think a few teachers have found it and started using it for lessons.
streaky1981 4 years ago 2
brilliant.
Betcheman had such an amazing voice.
A 'rap' my arse - don't denegrate such brilliance by associating it with that shite.
65twin 4 years ago
ello mr sanders this 2 my english teacher
ashafette 4 years ago
spammeister its not pathetic nor is it rap u idiot its a poem used by the LMS i believe to promote railways nothing else
searleflesher 4 years ago
It was actually a poem written by W.H. Auden. Its a wonderful poem. With a wonderful rythmn. Its just shame at the time the Duchesses had not been built yet!
Steam1989 4 years ago
One of my favourite poems as a child, and still is now.
EmilyPankhurst 4 years ago
haha i listend to this song i school
Sephtons 4 years ago
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This is the train, crossing the border
Pathe-tic 19-30s rap
spameister 4 years ago
No, this is the NIGHT MAIL, not the "train".
joeferrito 3 years ago
Oh please forgive me, train-God. WTF does it matter?
spameister 3 years ago
asshole
joeferrito 3 years ago
Pedant
spameister 3 years ago
great stuff, I'd love to hear a soundtrack to this done by John Williams
turdleaner 4 years ago
The full film is near 30 minutes long. It tracks the mail train on its journey from London to Glasgow. But the closing section acompanied by the John Betjeman poem is the most famous part of it. I am sure you can buy the full version on DVD and it can be viewed 'on demand' in the main hall at the National Railway Museum, York.
BScar23625 4 years ago
Poetry was actually by W H Auden rather than 'Betch'.
ClaymoreWam1 4 years ago
Ah!. Sorry about that mistake.
BScar23625 4 years ago
He is right actually it was written by W H Auden but it was John Betcheman who was saying it in the film, and i think he helped write it too.
theojohn4 4 years ago
Thanks for that. I was pretty sure that Betcheman had something to do with it.
BScar23625 4 years ago
Didn't it use to be 25 minutes long?
Byronik 4 years ago
Is the movie still in copyright?
I would never have seen this without Youtube.
Julian9ehp 4 years ago
One of the most priceless railway documentaries ever produced. Shame that nowadays, they just take bags of mail rather than sort it en route; it's just not the same as it was. Thanks for the grand clip bmbgeekclub.
theamateurbasher 4 years ago
Great stuff!
alanstarkie2001 4 years ago
Great to have found this again. Thanks for posting it.
OldVideoPro 4 years ago
Many thanks for posting this, a reminder of when times were in some ways simpler but people were more interdependent. I think it's Auden's finest work - mainly because I don't like any of his other stuff.
heatherllb 4 years ago
AMAZIN! lol just what i was looking for were stying tht at school lol!
TrampoliningLaurie 4 years ago
i had to do this poem at school.//
memories..
kinda catchy
COURTN3Yxxx 4 years ago
i had to learn a line of this for the register whilst in english lessons back in 2002
terribleteenz 4 years ago
I like this. There was a BR advert a bit like this back in the 80's. some of the words were....... 'this is the passenger train full of commuters bound for the city to work on computers' etc. That's all I can remember, good advert though.
donrov07 4 years ago
search for Britig rail advert - it's on here. The YouTube number URL End is: watch?v=ddtPI07hhA8
OldVideoPro 4 years ago
This is great! I attendended a TPO event at the nenv valley and the line 'this is the nightmail, crossing the border bringing the cheque and the postal order' I heard at least 10 times from the 'night mail' veterans.
TheNightMail 4 years ago
ramage we all know you learnt the words
pantherdashladyflash 4 years ago
oh dear lord....my college and university days are coming back on this one and that bloody coursework on it! having to watch it like....3 times!!!!!! ha ha ha
timmykernight 4 years ago
Interesting look Bettock in the 1930s compared to how it looks now. Very VEry nice!!! I have the original on video!!!
Steam1989 4 years ago
Very excellent to see and hear. Thanks for posting it.
HarryOmji 4 years ago
Very Nostalgic! Loved the colour fottage of Edinburgh.
Dear Chillerorchid, good luck with a remake, however the dirt has gone,
the pride has gone, the hard work has gone so I don't know what other similies you could use.
ORBOD 4 years ago
I did this poem at school as well in the 80's. Auden was an amazing poet. I am not sure about the choice of Benajamin Britten for the music , Ralph Vaughn Williams would have been a better choice. Ramage49 is spot on about the "rap". As a film maker myself I have decided that I will re-make a contemporary version.
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Watch this space.
chilledorchid 5 years ago
That'd be awesome to remake it.
RomZomCom 5 years ago
Excellent video. I heard this on Encarta, and was immediately taken by it.
RomZomCom 5 years ago
this is amazing... a 1930s rap!
ramage49 5 years ago
Wonderful. I remember this being shown to us in School, around 1960. Composer Benjamin Britten was from the same town as me.
Eastanglianwarrior 5 years ago
Splendid....a great posting. Both the poem and the film were very much part of my childhood.
oldpaw 5 years ago
this is awesome!!!!
stellasmami 5 years ago
Thanks. Feb 21st marks the centenary of Auden's death, so I'm glad this is here.
raggedclown 5 years ago