L'attaque, sans déclaration de guerre, de Port-Arthur par les japonais ouvre le conflit russo-japonais de 1904-1905 et voit le 214° Morkhansky engagé en Mandchourie. Plus 4000 soldats et officiers furent massacrés par les Japonais. 7 survivront dont Illia A. CHATROV qui composa en 1906 cette chanson à la mémoire de ces compagnons morts au combat.
Il sera, ainsi que ses compagnons, décoré de la prestigieuse croix de Saint Georges. So, please, don't speak about chinese, if you don't know History.
As a Chinese, I understand that the background of this song is about invasion of China by imperial Russia, but the song is so beautiful that I can't resist it!
Great music. God bless Russia and China. May both countries prosper.
(Sorry for the previous lengthy discussion with someone who invented his own truth and sorry for double posting as the commenting function of youtube is somewhat cumbersome and I am not used to it. )
@nukedotmn, to answer you for a last time. You asked me to read a history book by a non-Chinese. As you say I was brain washed. To show you that you are just talking nonsense, here is a book written by William T. Rowe called "China's last empire: the great Qing". Well, he says QIng is a Chinese Empire. Pity, Rowes must be a communist spy mustn't he? Read any serious history book on China by white historians, you will see Qing is regarded as a Chinese dynasty, as well as Yuan.
@teresavivarium I'm not buying any of your bull..ts! Any decent historian knows that neither Qin nor Yuan were Chinese Empires! yes, those Empires ruled China and Chinese nationals, but the ruling class were Manchus and Mongols respecfully, absolute foreigners and outsiders to the Chinese!!! Even your founding father Sun Yet Sen acknowledged that and viewed both Manchus and the Mongols as invaders from outside!! Manchus pretty much assimilated into you! But Mongols are not!!!! Uigurs and Tibetan
@teresavivarium Uigurs and Tibetans are strugling for their independence from the Chinese! Chinas is not multiethnic country, China is China, owned by the Chinese, not by Uigurs or Tibetans!! 99.9% of Chinese population are Chinese!! Mere than 5% population of Germany, England, France etc. are are no local, or come from outside such countries as Nigeria, Turkey, Sudan, Algeria, China, Vietnam etc. But they are not considered multiethnic countries!!!! Dont' feed yourself with false imagination!
@nukedotmn Come on man, the U.K. is a multi-ethnic country. U.K. citizens with South-Asian (Pakistan) origin are called "Brits" too. You are arguing like a BNP (British National Party) member, I only hope you will be allowed to join, not sure you have the right skin colour...
Of course is China a multiethnic country, there are more Mongols in China than in the Republic Mongolia. Mongolian and Tibetan language are co-official languages of China. Look at the banknotes.
Btw. you seems to know very little about Europe. the U.K. has many languages and ethnic groups, the Welsh is a different language and in Scotland they speak Gallic. In Northern Ireland they have Irish. They are extremely different languages. Germany is more homogeneous but the mentality is also changing and people are discussing now whether the Islams is also a part of Germany society.
Great music. God bless Russia and China, and may both countries prosper, and peace to all people with good will.
Apologize to all that I went into a lengthy discussion with a Mongolian nationalist who invented his own truth. No sentiment against Mongolians though, they are our brothers. My dislike is directed at narrow nationalism and racism.
@nukedotmn, but the way, it is really laughable to say that Qin was not a Chinese dynasty, you are thinking "Chines=han", Chinese and Han are not synonyms. Chinese is a concept of State, han is a concept of ethnic original. Manchurians are Chinese I know descendants of Manchurians and they all consider themselves Chinese. What kind of nonsense you are talking about. Besides oversea Chinese who are Manchurians all Manchurians live in China and have a Chinese passport or ID card.
The father of the Taiwanese writer Qi Banyuan came from Manchuria, he was a minister of the Chinese government in Nanking, her mother was Mongolian, who lived in the same region as her Han-father. They both considered themselves Chinese and hated the Japanese. They left Manchuria after the Japanese invasion and her father came back under disguise to took part in the underground ant-japanese movement. Many young men fled from Manchuria to Nanking to join the army and fight for their motherland.
The Japanese then took the already resigned emperor puyi, because China had at that time a republic and puyi was allowed to stay in the forbidden city but his court had no power. The Japanese installed him as the puppet king of manchuria, the Japanese even forced his brother to marry a Japanese woman so that there would be in the future a Japanese king of Manchuria.
with the defeat of Japan, Russian army entered Manchuria, Japanese were expelled, Manchuria united with the other parts of China.
Btw. for those who don't know much about the invasion of the Japanese of Manchuria: they assassinated the warlord Zhang Zuoling, ethnic Chinese. He was a fierce general who prevented Manchuria from the Japanese Invasion so they decided to get rid of him in such a hideous way. After his death Manchuria fell, and the Japanese killed a lot of Chinese civilians. Many fled to other parts of China because they didn't want to be slaves of the Japanese.
Manchuria is a part of China, it is the place where the last Emperor family came from (Puyi, the Last Emperor, etfc. I think you all know this hollywood film), so Manchuria is definitely a part of China. Before Mao there was a China called the Republic of China (the China nowadays is called the People's Republic of China), and there has always been a China for more than 3000 years. China in Chinese means the Country in the middle, and it was used as a name for this region long ago.
@teresavivarium Yes, Manchuria is part of China now, but it was not before!!! Puyi, the Last Emperor was not Chinese and was not China's Emperor! Puyi was Manchu man and was the Emperor of Chin dynasty that ruled China for almost 300 years!! Manchus are not Chinese at all!! Manchus are totally different ethnic groups that invaded China and ruled over the Chinese! So, Manchuria is Manchuria and it was a different country before PRC took it over!
@nukedotmn Are you Japanese? Manchuria was not a different country, it was invaded by the Japanese who set up a puppet government there. It was not a real free and independent country. They killed a lot of people there and the inhabitants there considered themselves as Chinese. China has always been a country with any ethnic groups, like Russia too. Qin-Dynasty is a part of China's history, both the Dynasty of the Mongols and Manchurians took Beijing as its capital.
@teresavivarium No, I'm not Japanese! yes, Qin=Chin dynasty makes up part of China's history, but that does not mean AT ALL Qin was Chinese dynasty! Qins or Manchus were invaders from outside!! They were totally different people who spoke absolutely different language and had totally different nomadic culture! Yes both America was invaded by French and English ruled by them for centuries, but does that make America claim over Britain and France now?
@nukedotmn The point is, the founder of Qin-Dynasty who was a Manchurian clan chieftain but he was at the same time a General of the former Ming-Dynasty and defended for the Ming-Dynasty the part of Manchuria. Mongolians lived within the territory of Jin, which was a Han-foundation. China has always been multi-ethnic, you must try to understand this.
@nukedotmn The point is, the founder of Qin-Dynasty who was a Manchurian clan chieftain but he was at the same time a General of the former Ming-Dynasty and defended for the Ming-Dynasty the part of Manchuria. Mongolians lived within the territory of former Tang which a Han dynasty. China has always been multi-ethnic, you must try to understand this. You seem to promote the idea that one country one nation. But many countries, especially the more prosperous ones, are multi-cultural.
@teresavivarium you're obviously the product of braining washing propaganda by Chinese communist party! Read and explore true history, no the one taught be the Chinese! Manchus were not part of Min, Manchus were part of Yuan Mongol dynasty. Nurkhachi, an outsider, sided with one of the Chinese Generals in their internal conflicts, but himself was not subject to Min!!!!!!!! No, China is China!!!! Japan is Japan, Mongolia is Mongolia, Russia is Russia, Turkestan is Turkestan etc.!!!!
Tang, whatever man!!!! yes, northern China, including Beejing had always been a territory of Nomadic dynasties such as Huns, Xiongnu, Xianbei, Jin, Liao, etc. etc. until Chinese took over the territories and start building the Great Wall to legitimize their stolen land!!!!don't just imagine things and fantasize it in your mind!! The Chinese have very well defined border, no one can dispute that. That's your Great Wall!!! South of GW is China, north of GW is Mongolia!!! PERIOD man!
@nukedotmn p.s. Great wall was built in 15th century, we are living in the 20th. Boarders of countries change, even the U.S. was growing into today's size. You are just being ridiculous.
why worry if it is China or Mongolia, or whatever, that is irrelevant to this
man I really apprecate these songs, they are really nice and reminds me of how old Russian songs were very popular in China in my grand dad's generation
An older brother of my great grandfather lies somewhere in Manchouria in an unknown grave. He was enlisted to Russian Army during this conflict.For me this melody is a tribute to the memory of him. A great melody....
najciekawsze jest to, że ponoć ten walc został napisany, praktycznie w ogniu bitwy, podczas wojny rosyjsko - japońskiej :D autor napisał ponoć, gdzieś w mandżurskich okopach.
not really have you heard about QinshiHuangdi before? He is the ruler that 'created' the concept of a 'unified'China, so you can say that it was no 'China' before QinshiHuangdi :)
yes you are right. This music was born at the time when Russian had war with Japan in north eastern China to compete the control of Manchuria around 1905.
Браво!
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lovely playing
dazzat1 3 months ago
Beautiful music
May all soldiers who fell down on battle fields of Manchuria rest in peace
oldnavy1914 4 months ago 8
L'attaque, sans déclaration de guerre, de Port-Arthur par les japonais ouvre le conflit russo-japonais de 1904-1905 et voit le 214° Morkhansky engagé en Mandchourie. Plus 4000 soldats et officiers furent massacrés par les Japonais. 7 survivront dont Illia A. CHATROV qui composa en 1906 cette chanson à la mémoire de ces compagnons morts au combat.
Il sera, ainsi que ses compagnons, décoré de la prestigieuse croix de Saint Georges. So, please, don't speak about chinese, if you don't know History.
FootballArarat73 6 months ago 6
Please, Gentlemen, let's appreciate the lyrism of this russian song.
WONDERFULL !
FootballArarat73 6 months ago 9
As a Chinese, I understand that the background of this song is about invasion of China by imperial Russia, but the song is so beautiful that I can't resist it!
vhscincent 9 months ago
@vhscincent that's exactly what I feel.
yuanyi1993 4 months ago
@vhscincent It was not Russian invasion of China but Russian-Japan war
uran235able 4 months ago
@uran235able sure. but the war was caused by Russian encroachment on Manchuria.
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teresavivarium 9 months ago
Great music. God bless Russia and China. May both countries prosper.
(Sorry for the previous lengthy discussion with someone who invented his own truth and sorry for double posting as the commenting function of youtube is somewhat cumbersome and I am not used to it. )
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@nukedotmn, to answer you for a last time. You asked me to read a history book by a non-Chinese. As you say I was brain washed. To show you that you are just talking nonsense, here is a book written by William T. Rowe called "China's last empire: the great Qing". Well, he says QIng is a Chinese Empire. Pity, Rowes must be a communist spy mustn't he? Read any serious history book on China by white historians, you will see Qing is regarded as a Chinese dynasty, as well as Yuan.
teresavivarium 9 months ago
@teresavivarium I'm not buying any of your bull..ts! Any decent historian knows that neither Qin nor Yuan were Chinese Empires! yes, those Empires ruled China and Chinese nationals, but the ruling class were Manchus and Mongols respecfully, absolute foreigners and outsiders to the Chinese!!! Even your founding father Sun Yet Sen acknowledged that and viewed both Manchus and the Mongols as invaders from outside!! Manchus pretty much assimilated into you! But Mongols are not!!!! Uigurs and Tibetan
nukedotmn 9 months ago
@teresavivarium Uigurs and Tibetans are strugling for their independence from the Chinese! Chinas is not multiethnic country, China is China, owned by the Chinese, not by Uigurs or Tibetans!! 99.9% of Chinese population are Chinese!! Mere than 5% population of Germany, England, France etc. are are no local, or come from outside such countries as Nigeria, Turkey, Sudan, Algeria, China, Vietnam etc. But they are not considered multiethnic countries!!!! Dont' feed yourself with false imagination!
nukedotmn 9 months ago
@nukedotmn Come on man, the U.K. is a multi-ethnic country. U.K. citizens with South-Asian (Pakistan) origin are called "Brits" too. You are arguing like a BNP (British National Party) member, I only hope you will be allowed to join, not sure you have the right skin colour...
Of course is China a multiethnic country, there are more Mongols in China than in the Republic Mongolia. Mongolian and Tibetan language are co-official languages of China. Look at the banknotes.
teresavivarium 9 months ago
Btw. you seems to know very little about Europe. the U.K. has many languages and ethnic groups, the Welsh is a different language and in Scotland they speak Gallic. In Northern Ireland they have Irish. They are extremely different languages. Germany is more homogeneous but the mentality is also changing and people are discussing now whether the Islams is also a part of Germany society.
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Great music. God bless Russia and China, and may both countries prosper, and peace to all people with good will.
Apologize to all that I went into a lengthy discussion with a Mongolian nationalist who invented his own truth. No sentiment against Mongolians though, they are our brothers. My dislike is directed at narrow nationalism and racism.
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@nukedotmn, but the way, it is really laughable to say that Qin was not a Chinese dynasty, you are thinking "Chines=han", Chinese and Han are not synonyms. Chinese is a concept of State, han is a concept of ethnic original. Manchurians are Chinese I know descendants of Manchurians and they all consider themselves Chinese. What kind of nonsense you are talking about. Besides oversea Chinese who are Manchurians all Manchurians live in China and have a Chinese passport or ID card.
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The father of the Taiwanese writer Qi Banyuan came from Manchuria, he was a minister of the Chinese government in Nanking, her mother was Mongolian, who lived in the same region as her Han-father. They both considered themselves Chinese and hated the Japanese. They left Manchuria after the Japanese invasion and her father came back under disguise to took part in the underground ant-japanese movement. Many young men fled from Manchuria to Nanking to join the army and fight for their motherland.
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The Japanese then took the already resigned emperor puyi, because China had at that time a republic and puyi was allowed to stay in the forbidden city but his court had no power. The Japanese installed him as the puppet king of manchuria, the Japanese even forced his brother to marry a Japanese woman so that there would be in the future a Japanese king of Manchuria.
with the defeat of Japan, Russian army entered Manchuria, Japanese were expelled, Manchuria united with the other parts of China.
teresavivarium 9 months ago
Btw. for those who don't know much about the invasion of the Japanese of Manchuria: they assassinated the warlord Zhang Zuoling, ethnic Chinese. He was a fierce general who prevented Manchuria from the Japanese Invasion so they decided to get rid of him in such a hideous way. After his death Manchuria fell, and the Japanese killed a lot of Chinese civilians. Many fled to other parts of China because they didn't want to be slaves of the Japanese.
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Manchuria is a part of China, it is the place where the last Emperor family came from (Puyi, the Last Emperor, etfc. I think you all know this hollywood film), so Manchuria is definitely a part of China. Before Mao there was a China called the Republic of China (the China nowadays is called the People's Republic of China), and there has always been a China for more than 3000 years. China in Chinese means the Country in the middle, and it was used as a name for this region long ago.
teresavivarium 9 months ago
@teresavivarium Yes, Manchuria is part of China now, but it was not before!!! Puyi, the Last Emperor was not Chinese and was not China's Emperor! Puyi was Manchu man and was the Emperor of Chin dynasty that ruled China for almost 300 years!! Manchus are not Chinese at all!! Manchus are totally different ethnic groups that invaded China and ruled over the Chinese! So, Manchuria is Manchuria and it was a different country before PRC took it over!
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@nukedotmn Are you Japanese? Manchuria was not a different country, it was invaded by the Japanese who set up a puppet government there. It was not a real free and independent country. They killed a lot of people there and the inhabitants there considered themselves as Chinese. China has always been a country with any ethnic groups, like Russia too. Qin-Dynasty is a part of China's history, both the Dynasty of the Mongols and Manchurians took Beijing as its capital.
teresavivarium 9 months ago
@teresavivarium No, I'm not Japanese! yes, Qin=Chin dynasty makes up part of China's history, but that does not mean AT ALL Qin was Chinese dynasty! Qins or Manchus were invaders from outside!! They were totally different people who spoke absolutely different language and had totally different nomadic culture! Yes both America was invaded by French and English ruled by them for centuries, but does that make America claim over Britain and France now?
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@nukedotmn The point is, the founder of Qin-Dynasty who was a Manchurian clan chieftain but he was at the same time a General of the former Ming-Dynasty and defended for the Ming-Dynasty the part of Manchuria. Mongolians lived within the territory of Jin, which was a Han-foundation. China has always been multi-ethnic, you must try to understand this.
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@nukedotmn The point is, the founder of Qin-Dynasty who was a Manchurian clan chieftain but he was at the same time a General of the former Ming-Dynasty and defended for the Ming-Dynasty the part of Manchuria. Mongolians lived within the territory of former Tang which a Han dynasty. China has always been multi-ethnic, you must try to understand this. You seem to promote the idea that one country one nation. But many countries, especially the more prosperous ones, are multi-cultural.
teresavivarium 9 months ago
@teresavivarium you're obviously the product of braining washing propaganda by Chinese communist party! Read and explore true history, no the one taught be the Chinese! Manchus were not part of Min, Manchus were part of Yuan Mongol dynasty. Nurkhachi, an outsider, sided with one of the Chinese Generals in their internal conflicts, but himself was not subject to Min!!!!!!!! No, China is China!!!! Japan is Japan, Mongolia is Mongolia, Russia is Russia, Turkestan is Turkestan etc.!!!!
nukedotmn 9 months ago
@nukedotmn sorry, I feel no need to read your version of history. It was you who are day dreaming. No time for you any more.
teresavivarium 9 months ago
Tang, whatever man!!!! yes, northern China, including Beejing had always been a territory of Nomadic dynasties such as Huns, Xiongnu, Xianbei, Jin, Liao, etc. etc. until Chinese took over the territories and start building the Great Wall to legitimize their stolen land!!!!don't just imagine things and fantasize it in your mind!! The Chinese have very well defined border, no one can dispute that. That's your Great Wall!!! South of GW is China, north of GW is Mongolia!!! PERIOD man!
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@nukedotmn p.s. Great wall was built in 15th century, we are living in the 20th. Boarders of countries change, even the U.S. was growing into today's size. You are just being ridiculous.
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Proschanie Slavianki and this have great similarities with spanish pasodobles :D
ShagohodArkan 10 months ago
@ShagohodArkan
Pasodobles - no se, pero por buleria - muy bonito!!!
igordetorres 9 months ago
Gloriya CCCP!!!
easternshock 11 months ago
мдаааа, прекрасно!
vlstgeorgiev 11 months ago
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Celticboi69 1 year ago
Господи! Какая Музыка! Какие Музыканты! PetrovFed, спасибо Вам!
BelochkaTilli 1 year ago
The war started to unravel the Czarist fabric as embittered veterans of the Manchurian conflict returned to a worsening social atmosphere.
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago 2
EXTRAORDINAIRE mélodie russe.
FootballArarat73 1 year ago
before it was japanese Mansjukwo
lowrevia 1 year ago
i think manchuria is just an area of china
JuiceNuggetz 1 year ago
@JuiceNuggetz
we had a war with japan for it.
nikmif 1 year ago
why worry if it is China or Mongolia, or whatever, that is irrelevant to this
man I really apprecate these songs, they are really nice and reminds me of how old Russian songs were very popular in China in my grand dad's generation
0YueFei0 1 year ago 2
Просто супер!!!
shabdua 1 year ago
An older brother of my great grandfather lies somewhere in Manchouria in an unknown grave. He was enlisted to Russian Army during this conflict.For me this melody is a tribute to the memory of him. A great melody....
marbat1969 1 year ago
najciekawsze jest to, że ponoć ten walc został napisany, praktycznie w ogniu bitwy, podczas wojny rosyjsko - japońskiej :D autor napisał ponoć, gdzieś w mandżurskich okopach.
MarkBernes 1 year ago
Manchuria is Manchuria. Actually, I think China is just from Beijing downwards.
Ralph95Mind 1 year ago 2
Спасибо, вам прадеды!
Вечная честь и память!
steregucthiy1904 1 year ago 2
you know people who live in Manchura speaks in Mongolian and their life style nomadic
Enkhbayar01 1 year ago
Bravo!!!
0203060207 1 year ago
Godfather - wedding
narino2003 1 year ago
Mi też ta melodia przypomina "Noce i dnie", jest piękna.
razrv33 1 year ago
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ten utwór był użyty w "Nocach i dniach" w kilku miejscach pod koniec filmu
WPLA216 1 year ago
Ta melodia kojarzy mi się z filmem "Noce i dnie". Grano ją na rynku w Kalińcu w przeddzień wybuchu wojny.
alutka791 1 year ago
super super supersupre!!!!
velmonth333 1 year ago
Mandchurai is not china only Mongolia.
rebelmgl 1 year ago
@rebelmgl Manchuria is always part of China and Manchuria has no connections of any kind with Mongolia
Dropictultre 1 year ago
It was no "china" before Mao.
trozable 1 year ago 5
not really have you heard about QinshiHuangdi before? He is the ruler that 'created' the concept of a 'unified'China, so you can say that it was no 'China' before QinshiHuangdi :)
Dropictultre 1 year ago
¿Cuando vendra esa Banda a Valencia, España? Maravillosa
francisHHH 1 year ago
On the Manchurian Hills, north east china?
BlindandGore 2 years ago
@BlindandGore used to be Russia
zedwizer 2 years ago
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yes you are right. This music was born at the time when Russian had war with Japan in north eastern China to compete the control of Manchuria around 1905.
thisisarandomstring 2 years ago 2
Колотушкин - Молодец!!!
kotofskiy4 2 years ago 6
;-) wzór!!!!!!!!
velmonth333 2 years ago
Ruskie orkiestry dęte są fajne i tyle.
misiektuba 2 years ago 5
ruskie to moga byc pierogi a nie orkiestry. rosyjskie zapamietaj to
8681541355 1 year ago
W sumie może i tak. Ale jedno i drugie dobre.
misiektuba 1 year ago
rewelacja!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
velmonth333 2 years ago 4
piekne
lucyna52 2 years ago 10
wonderful.... just wonderful. Great expression in playing !
LibertangoVieenrose 2 years ago 24
piękny walc :))
lkobas 2 years ago 10
fantastyczne!! rosyjska muzyka
pizdzielce 2 years ago 32
Moja mama umiera a zawsze ten uwtór lubiła, nie może być zły skoro jej pomaga.
taltybios 1 year ago