Ancient Greek Philosophy

[mariegoslar]

I am not too big on philosophers of ancient greece, A lot of them were against the truth and did indeed introduce some perverse and dangerous idealism.

[MightyMetron]

@mariegoslar Such as?

[JNathanK2011]

Socrates kicked ass.

[Etnysk8silence]

<3 Greece :D

[rodswebdesign]

some really good stuff here

[MrJonkelp]

some sweet info here

[jtruej]

Dang what is this movie they are using? I've got to see that.

[nadiaatz]

that was Greece!! Ιnfinite state!!

[A2MONKEMAN]

#SWAG

[kmankoolman]

@mrtundra45 he's talking about them translating Plato's books about Socrates. Watch the video you ignorant kid.

[Fr34k1nhax0rs]

Woops, I seemed to have inserted an extra comma in my last post. My bad.

[Fr34k1nhax0rs]

Obviously, the people who raped were not in fact Christians, but thought they were. And @croscream, threatening someone fanatically won't prove your point.

[07Aristotle]

Thank the Islamic Scholars!

[mrtundra45]

@07Aristotle Greece came BEFORE Islam.....lol allah fuckbar!

[07Aristotle]

@mrtundra45 Thats silly, if you would have watched the video you would have known that islamic scholars preserved the work of plato. Plato is the biggest contributer to philosphy besides aristotle, learn some history.Yes greece did come before islam, even though islam is a religion and not an actual place. Duuh! Take youre assumptions elsewhere my-dude.

[CrazyNative4]

cool

[SuperDonye]

Good video

[holypsychopath]

bullshit the christians of the east saved the greek works. Islam would have burned them had they not become less muslim and started embracing pagan views. Mohammad would have burned every peice of pagan writing if he had been alive. Islam preserved nothing only the christians and zoroasterians perserved them and they just happened to live in the Islamic world

[croscream]

@holypsychopath

The left likes to make there own mythology; one of there believes is that Christianity is evil, therefor they create mythologies where Christians is evil in order to explain why Christianity is evil.

[kouthunas]

Respond to this video...The Crusades the Spanish inquisition are not Mythology they are history Where Christians acted as evil cruel tyrants torturing confessions out of innocent people and then murdering them all because they perceived them to be a witch or magic or could talk to the devil . Do you know anything about History?

[croscream]

@kouthunas

What are the two most horrible things done under Roman rule and what are the two most horrible things done under Grecian rule?

Until you awnser those questions correctly, you are unable to learn anything from history.

[kouthunas]

@croscream This answer is subject to opinion and individual perception so its an insipid question .you have the gaul to question me after you responded with your wrong on both parts but I wont explain .I don't have to validate myself to a mental midget like you if you Doubt what I say Google it Moron it's called reading and research you should fucking try it some time instead of changing the subject to a bullshit question because your knowledge is limited

[croscream]

@kouthunas

That is why my people will win, because we are unable to feel doubt.

[kouthunas]

@croscream your People? Will win what?

[croscream]

@kouthunas

No, i will not awnser that question.

[kouthunas]

@holypsychopath if you will excuse me Sir allow me to please interject that The library of Alexandria was burned and looted by Christians who also raped and murdered Hypatia the chief librarian.

[croscream]

@kouthunas

You are wrong on both accounts and i won't explain why.

[kouthunas]

@croscream Wrong?? Hypatia lived in Alexandria when Christianity started to dominate over the other religions. In the early 390's, riots broke out frequently between the different religions. Cyril, a leader among the Christians, and Orestes, the civil governor, opposed each other. Hypatia was a friend of Orestes and it is believed that Cyril spread virulent rumors about her. In 415 AD, on Hypatia's way home, a mob attacked her, stripped her and killed her with pieces of broken pottery.

[croscream]

@kouthunas

Thank you for admitting that she was the victim of a political ploy between two leaders: clearly Christianity can not be hold responsible for that.

[kouthunas]

@croscream Cyril was aChristian leader the mob who killed and raped Hypatia was Christian are you seriously this fucking Stupid or are you trying to be cute? in any case you can not answer a simple fucking question what makes you think you can win anything? if you have no facts to retort with don't waste my time with unwarranted and delusional arrogance it's childish and illuminates your immaturity and will quickly get you ignored if you have nothing of substance to offer!

[croscream]

@kouthunas

No, i don't belief they raped here.

I don't SEE that these Christians did anything special that makes them stand out from there contemporaries.

Or do you claim that they did something the Ptolomeans, Gnostics, Romans, Manichaens would not have done?

Do you claim this? Do you claim that this event was so special, so cruel, so unusual that it puts the rest of the classical world to shame?

Because unless you can; these people acted out the spirit of the time.

[Jeffanos]

@croscream U mean that Gnostics, Ptolemeans and Manicheans slaughtered and raped people??? Pagans may persecuted Christians in those early stages but they did that just because they were fanatics and they would create unrest and public disorder (as they did 2 centuries after).... Anyaway the thing is that all dogmatic religions are bad for our progres as civilisation and we mustn't take them seriously...

[croscream]

@Jeffanos

To get this straight: You support the rape of Christians because they are fanatics.

But you are wrong sir, you are the fanatic and shoot be locked in a prison.

[Jeffanos]

@croscream U put words in my mouth i never said so that makes you fanatic...Read my comment carefull before u make yours...

[croscream]

@Jeffanos

I am not sure what you mean here? I have to guess what you are saying. I think you are making a claim about how evil Christianity is by claiming that people who commit rape and genocide had the right to persecute Christians (which would include rape, since we both agree that the Gnostics.. etc. where rapists) because in your eyes Christians are fanatics.

The main question is this: Do you agree that groups like the Gnostics and others would rape people, yes or no, and if no.... WHY?

[Jeffanos]

@croscream My question is this: Where did u read that Gnostics raped people??? And did u know that Gnostics were a part of Platonic branch which led the bigest percent of Greeks to bealived in a Neoplatonic religion like Christianity?? Not to mention that Gnostic philosopher wrote the apocryphon of John and the apocalypse of Adam all Christian works... Which mean Gnostics have nothing to do with Aristotle and the other Philosophic branches..

[croscream]

@Jeffanos

Do you claim that these Gnostics where all superhuman beings who where incapable to acting out vices like rape; yes or no.

[Jeffanos]

@croscream So Gnostics had nothing to do with polytheists...Anyway i do not suport any act of brutality even if it comes to fanatics...Fanatics should be put aside and become the joke of society that's what they deserve..All fanatics not only religious fanatics but politic fanatics also....U can embrace God but u cannot say to me how i will embrace Him by adding me a stupid Dogma...

[croscream]

@Jeffanos

You are telling me how to understand Christianity and classical history: That would make you a historical fanatic.

[Jeffanos]

@croscream I never told u how to understand Christianity i spoke with historically acurate points about a philosophical monotheistic branch and i tryed to seperate this branch from the Aristotle philosophy...U r the fanatic my friend cause u think that everybody tries to munipulate u against your faith... And every human beeing is capable of rape but this doesn't mean that everybody has raped once in his life..U should speak with true facts not with fanatism...

[croscream]

@Jeffanos

What is my faith, exactly?

[Jeffanos]

@croscream What kind of question is that?? Have u run out with points??

[croscream]

@Jeffanos

You are a leftist and will never awnser my questions with any dignity: accept my truth or else.

[Jeffanos]

@croscream By puting people in categories just because they desagree with you u become the first fanatic and fascist.... And what truth? That Christianity is a dogmatic religion thus many of this religion followers do not accept other peoples bealifs thus they promote intollerance? It's true isn't it? And what answer do u want my friend which is your faith? U may be Christian u may also be Muslim (another dogmatick monotheistic religion) what is the point of this question??

[Jeffanos]

@croscream And i don't have any truths...I don't bealive in truths there are only facts and with facts i speak...

[croscream]

@Jeffanos

This is your last chance, convert to my religion or suffer the consequences.

[havee3333333]

I care for knowledge.Epicurus was my favorite philosopher.The ancient Greeks were great people.But knowledge is more then just philosophy.Te ancient Greeks were so ahead of their time in science and technology.Experts say that if Alexander's empire never crashed we would be 600 years ahead in technology.Meaning what we have today would have existed in the year 1400.ut, saddly religion has taken over.Science flies us to the moon while religion flies us into buildings thats my philosophy

[havee3333333]

@Omnicron777

Alright I already know this about him -.-... I don't need an explanation about him... You sound like a Christian Missionary who you have to tell 100 times you already know the story of Jesus and he talks about him anyway.

I care for Great Greece which is now a minimal country in the east trying to hold on to its land from Islamic fascists just like Russia and Serbia and eventually most of Europe and America.

[havee3333333]

@Omnicron777

I don't care for Socrates. I like the teachings of Epicurus and other great philosophers before and after Socrates. Socrates sounds like a man who just liked to disagree with people. He made people think and question and already great government, and weakened the great Athenian government. Which later ended up losing and eventually lost all its freedom. Even though it opened the door for Macedonia to come and take the land. I am Macedonian.

We lost our freedom for nearly 2000 years

[havee3333333]

@Omnicron777

I believe Greek government over a single man as they were in the best interest of Greece at the time. Just like I do today. But, I don't care if you try to throw this down my throat. As long as Muslims don't take credit for anything done by the Greek I am okay. Long live Greece!

[havee3333333]

@Omnicron777

That was one of the charges he faced in trial in 399 BC. I am sure the Greek judicial system did not over look these things.

[havee3333333]

Islam did not spread the philosophy of Plato and Socrates.First of all Plato and Socrates were Atheist and the teaching of Atheism in that time period was called the work of the devil and not just in Islam in Catholicism too.The Roman Empire was around until 1453. If anyone spread it, it was the Greeks.This documentary makes Greeks sound like idiots who don't know about their own history.The fucking Muslims burned down the Library of Alexandria and they take credit for what Greeks have done.Bah

[croscream]

@havee3333333

They where atheists by the standard of there civilisation, not our own.

[havee3333333]

Yes,we discussed this in my conversation with Omnicron777.Nice job reading one line and replying by the way.Anyways the governments word seems to be stronger the the words of the typical human.So if his government that he lived in for most of his life says that he was atheist than he was atheist.Today in court judges can decide weather someone is crazy or not and we respect the judges decisions.If the people we've know all our lives say we are one thing and we say we're another; who is right?

[havee3333333]

Most famous homeless man in history until Hitler

[simplyianm]

Watching this for history class homework...

[theprincessesme]

i saw this video in class

[qaplatlhinganmaH]

Greco-Buddhism, sometimes spelt Graeco-Buddhism, refers to the cultural syncretism between Hellenistic culture and Buddhism, which developed between the 4th century BCE and the 5th century CE