Jupiter-8V by Arturia and Nori Ubukata

[meninrevolt]

huge sonic difference.

[crabber338]

It's ironic that the same complaints made about Arturia were probably made about Roland when it tried to 'emulate' real instruments.

I own analogs, but I wouldn't say the JP8 sounds fake. It sounds pretty close to me. Filters kinda fizzle out with high resonance, but overall Arturia did an awesome job.

Don't always blame the software. I custom make my workstations with quality parts - It makes a difference. Don't expect good sound out of cheap $25 soundcards @44.1khz.

[SPACETORON]

Who is an artist of the background music of the video?

[cprostudio]

arturia arnt musicians, they are a comittee just like roland, they make instruments based on statistical information! Not passion, Not Art, Just Money! Digital and soft synths are the equivalent of fast food!!! period - its truly sad! We are now a disposable culture, everything is distraction and throw away, even relationships. Just look at the stuff made nowadays - GO ANALOG, WAKE UP, BREAK FREE x

[jmm1233]

Roland ftw

[WhizKalifaHater]

This synth blows. I've had it for a few years now and it never gets used. Sounds are plasticky and weird. Not to mention it never loads right. It messes up my Pro Tools sessions and makes them crash. I open songs that I made a while back using Jupiter and it always says either "Not enough system resources to load Jupiter 8v" or "Failed to Load Plugin" and it's jupiter always. This plugin just blows. I would not get it.

[ncheriyan]

Here is my take on it...IO agree with karel. Softsynths don't sound like the real hardware analog. That is why I want to get DSI tetra and/or Prophet 08.

[humpo77]

bring forth the 64bit versions of your synths, Arturia

[tim71725084]

I paid $100 for my Arturia JP8 as part of a package and the real thing is over $5000 now. Ive owned two JP8s and yes they have a special analogue magic that software cant touch, but $4-5000 better? and so big and heavy. There are other criteria besides "analogue warmth" that make something useful for music, like affordability, convenience, portability, this is "close enough" for many purposes.

[maccagrabme]

It wont be long before software is better than the real thing.

[Meteotrance]

i realy wonder why roland discontinous product analog synth and drum machine, it's not true that we can have the same fatness of sound with modeling, we get the idea and a good clone of the sound, but not the dynamic and the sweepness of the filter.

[jaymayer]

you want to know what you can really do with the arturia gear in the studio?

you can check out my produced track for the international Funkerman contest.

"Now or never" the synths in this track are created with an arturia jupiter 8 and the arturia CS80 and the bass with the prophet V. I can absolutely recommend these synths.

[karelpostthuis]

I'm sorry, i own a real JP8A for years. It never went out of tune, never broke down and gives me the best synth lead sound ever.

I tried the 8V as i try ALL new stuff, and i'm sorry to say it is NO jupiter 8 by a long shot, the sounds DON'T sound like a JP8.

In fact it sounds just like any other virtual synth, thin and sharp, lacking all the MEAT from a real synth.

It certainly can't be put in a mix with real synths as the sound is so obviously digital and small it stands out on "fakeness".

[ScorchinBeats]

@karelpostthuis You do realize you could make it pretty much 100% the same with a bit of EQ and processing right? Stop being a fanboy, the "amazing" sound of real synths is mostly a placebo these days.

[karelpostthuis]

@ScorchinBeats Do you have a JUPITER8 next to the software? If you DO, please upload an example vid demonstrating the sound of both. These comparisons are hard to find you know, and i think i can guess why......

Also important is.. what speakers are you listening on?

I listen in a real studio with callibrated K&H speakers, as on a cheap set of Tannoy's or other wannabe monitors you couldn't appreciate the sound of real synths.

[ScorchinBeats]

@karelpostthuis No I don't own one, but I played it in the studio for a while along side the software on a nice pair of Genelec's. Fact is that almost nobody cares about those tiny, tiny differences in the sound and thought I can hear them, if somebody was to properly tweak the software and run it through a tube amp with nice AD/DA converters, YOU wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

[karelpostthuis]

@ScorchinBeats

If you add up cost of GOOD AD/DA (minimum 1000$), a computer, the software and someone tweaking to sound "almost like the real thing", i'll settle for my Jupiter 8, thank you very much!, no need for all that fuss and the definite best JP sound on the planet, thank you for making my point!

Now i want to close this pointless "i know better", there might be more intelligent reading material at this vid's comments.

[Margatroid]

@karelpostthuis The only Jupiter 8 on ebay right now is $13,000. THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS.

This is an alternative.

[WhizKalifaHater]

@karelpostthuis

Ok I agree that the jupiter plugin sucks way too much. But your post doesn't make sense. Jupiter is a synth and that's it. Are you saying you could do a full-scale production just on the Jupiter? Are you saying you wouldn't need a DAW or recording device, something for drums, effects? Hmm cause that's what it seems like you are saying.

[karelpostthuis]

@WhizKalifaHater That's correct. With over 20 top of the line synths, and all analog and digital drum machines that count plus an arrangement of quality samplers i actually don't need a DAW, although i do use a RADAR for multitracking vocals and a PC for some offline editing.

But my comment is just about the JP8V, it is not a rocking plugin, it is NOT like the Juiter 8.

[DifferentIsKool]

I purchased this, amazing synth!

Truly amazing!

[thelurker25]

Not analog enough? What the hell are some of you people smoking? Of course it won't be virtually "100%" like the real Jupiter 8 - because that synth was analog based and was known to have problems! Finding a good working Jupiter 8 runs about over a few grand today.  Thanks, but no thanks. I will buy this software. BTW, the synth player from Queen (Fred Mandel) recommended this to me. I think that says enough for me.

[bahamakyle]

anyone know if the tune played at the very beginning has a name?

[mantra9990]

I've just bought the 10 year aniversary suite & they've done a great job on the Jupiter having owned one many moons ago. However be warned like most manufacturers they haven't tested the damn thing in the real world. Mine crashes the os x(10.5.7) in logic 8 saving patches is a nightmare - it won't let you input names properly??? most of 'em dont even appear in AU & guess what tec support are on holiday till the middle of August!!!

[cozycactus]

what is the music in the backroung ...the looping pattern? i like it

[data9k]

i think is from JP8 soft

[meshlife88]

The music is from the Arturia web site sound demos for the Jupiter 8V

[melindajamie]

Having owned a real Jupiter-8 (died) and a Prophet-5 and Prophet-600 I can say without doubt VST versions are not 100% the same in sound quality. But that doesn't make the VST versions not worth using. I use Pro-53 all the time and its strengths outweigh its shortcomings sonically. Key to making it closer to the original is outboard effects. I run Pro-53 through a Roland SBF-325 and sounds very nice and gives it the analog warmth it's missing. Even my Prophet-600 is warmer than Pro-53.

[testacorsa150]

That´s a good tip!

I have never owned a real jupter (am looking though), and it is very obvious even from this video that the sound of the vst is more steril and digital. I thought about using a 2" tape recorder to soften the sound, but the process is pretty tedious, so i will look into your idea - thanks.

[Collaboratory313]

yeah I agree with that but that's where the art of mixing comes to place...people complain about these synth vst's all the time when they try to mimic a previous one that was hardware rather then software...a musician is gonna like the classics better then the upgraded stuff...but if a person wants to make they sound more warm and less manipulative, then mix it, filter it, eq it, till it sounds old and busted...if that's what they really want...ya know?

[melindajamie]

Wanna hear Pro-53 VSTi ran through a SBF-325? Goto MySpace and search Gallery Of Voices. Our user name is galleryofvoicesmusic. Listen to the track "Only You" and you'll hear in on the intro flanged strings.

[lavakava]

actually, i never liked the native instrument sounds because of its digital quality...

arturia is way better in terms of modeling, and i would take arturia's prophet emulation over the NI pro53 anyday.

only NI product i like is the FM7, but the DX7 is digital anyway, maybe that's why.

[civ1002]

"who is listening to a track in a club going "wtf that's not a real analog this song is terrible F FOR FAIL". Honestly. "

- exactly, the average listener dosent care if you used a $5000 overpriced vintage synth or something like the virtual jp8V -

and there's no replacement for talent - that pretty much overrides everything.

[wrmusic]

Far not all electronic music is for club.

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Haven't tried J8V yet, but I have CS80V. Don't know how good it emulates the real thing - but it is by far the most soft and warm sounding VST I had a chance to use.

[miketheblueeagle]

Can anyoe tell me if i bought this does the synth actually come with it or is it a pc job software cd thing

[kingblorax]

i own it and its amusing. but like many other VSTs, it lacks the warmth of a real analog synth. the arturia moog modular comes close. but its like comparing 128k mp3s with a LP. another problem is you CAN'T CHANGE YOUR PRESETS in the jupiter 8v using your keyboard controller. what was arturia thinking? you have to grab a mouse to change your patch? so, buyers beware. 2 stars.

[bWWd0]

Also when hes talking about exactlyu the same sound and he plays chord then patch is from pulse and when he plays real JP8 then patch is from saw.Very nice "accuracy" ,is this a joke ?

Anyway its easy to copy sounds from my JP8K to synth1 and they sound similar , but it doesnt mean that synth1 can stand a chance against jp8k

[lavakava]

bwwd0, for your information, howard jones also said the jupiter 8 v sounds exactly like the original. i guess what they mean is the characteristic, NOT the analog warmth

[bWWd0]

he lied , looks like money are more important for him.Many peoples would buy this shty emulation cause there isnt any other JP vsti and arturia had the license to make JP8 from roland and they did it so bad.Its unforgiveable ,WASTE.characteristics ? jp8v doesnt have character.

[Chairenstain]

It actually is a bit close. Warm it up with some filters or a few analog effects and you're not THAT far off. In sure beats bringing the Jupiter 8 to a gig. The real Jupiter 8 is better in the studio but this is heaven-sent for live use. People can complain all they want about how these don't sound like the old machines but who is listening to a track in a club going "wtf that's not a real analog this song is terrible F FOR FAIL". Honestly.

[carocafella]

LOL!

[karelpostthuis]

@lavakava I know what howard said, and he was talking about the Jupiter itself, listen carefully..... That interview was edited very smart.

[lavakava]

ikutaro kakehashi (founder of roland) is god!

[lavakava]

they forgot duran duran on jupiter 8, and probably the 'frankie goes to hollywood' hit 'relax'

[bWWd0]

This guy is definitely deaf , what a shitty sound from Arturia JP8V and then wonderful sound of JP8 , its so ridiculous haha.Everyone can hear a difference , JP8V sounds bad and poor.Detune and overall oscillators tuning is fckd up.I wouldnt use it even for free.

[rg2027x]

Journey keyboardist Jonathan Cain used a Jupiter 8 to great effect on Seperate Ways. Intro arpeggio is the '8. Verse Emin/D/C chords are Prophet 5.

[Hiro139]

Wasnt Nori Ubukata the one who programmed Patches for the Japanese Yamaha Dx7?

[andysharifi]

Ive found that I can get the same fatness of the original jupiter when I record the 8v at 12 bits then lay the track down rather than record direct to track. I lose a little highs, but the fatness is there. The benefit outweighs the cost. I use a high end soundcard to do this though. A lynx. don't know if it would work great with lesser cards.

[williamc99]

what about Tangerine Dream?!?! You forgot about that great band who used the Jupiter 8!!

[thesnake383]

Ah. The sound is very close, but not perfect, on replicating the Jupiter 8 sound.

Keep working on it Arturia! You've come very close to perfecting it!

[oberheimobx]

Different when play Ubukata

[Paardekut]

Arturia is too expensive.

Especially now that Logic-8 is so cheap.

There are killer Jupiter sounds in Logic, that sound almost as good as my Jupiter-8 and MKS80.

[joelizquierdo]

I Owe the Arturia version. Nothing can replace the real deal, However It is a good synth if you use it in the studio. I also use it live for sequencing and performance where I don't need an additional keyboard to carry. Soft synths have a great sound and never get old.

[ratsouffle]

It's different! The real Jupiter 8 has more top end! Ripoff!

[thesnake383]

top end?

[rg2027x]

highs..

[ratsouffle]

4 months later the reply comes: more High frequency components of the sound :P

[rg2027x]

yup..'hi'

lol

[DjJesse1swe]

You should make a vst emulation of the jp 8000 too! That would rock